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chibahawk
04-01-2007, 07:37 PM
Just got a 50" Sony Grand Wega. I've never really watched HDTV before this and I threw on the James Bond Blu-ray and was just blown away.

Every color was just jumping out and every detail was screamin for attention. I think someone on an acid trip would die from sensory overload watching this tv.


Now I just need to get some home audio stuff goin on.

phyphoestilic
04-01-2007, 07:38 PM
I cant justify paying that much more for just blu-ray, maybe in a year or 2

1loudsuv
04-01-2007, 09:02 PM
what player are you using?

and if you can afford both hd-dvd and blu ray go for it cause the format war is gonna last quite some time. blu ray usually has better sounding movies (more lossless audio movies) and hd-dvd has better picture quality over all.

i used to just support just hd-dvd but 2 weeks ago i bought a ps3 and my blu ray count is doing pretty good :) 11 vs about 40 hd-dvds

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/0401071705.jpg

JimJ
04-01-2007, 10:36 PM
...cause the format war is gonna last quite some time.

Doubtful, this is Sony after all :) I don't expect Blu-Ray to succeed where Betamax, Minidisc and SACD all failed...especially if they refuse the **** industry. That'll make or break the format.

Crown_amps
04-01-2007, 10:41 PM
Doubtful, this is Sony after all :) I don't expect Blu-Ray to succeed where Betamax, Minidisc and SACD all failed...especially if they refuse the **** industry. That'll make or break the format.

i will stick to **** dvd's thanks

you see too much in the next gen

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/22/business/media/22porn.html?ex=1327122000&en=ae526fc82277506a&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

joetama
04-01-2007, 10:55 PM
I think it is stupid that people would jump ship on Blue-ray because they weren't supporting ****.

Anyway, I support Blue-Ray in this whole thing... :fyi:

Kai Winters
04-01-2007, 11:35 PM
I would love to buy a hd/blue ray player but at the current prices and the format war I just can not justify the purchase. I have seen both formats on varied systems and they are great. I do not see a format winner. Perhaps we will have both formats supported, see the new LG dvd player that supports both formats but is $1200 smackeroos, with no winner. That would not be too bad. But for me either choice may mean spending several hundred dollars or a bit more "re-buying" already purchased SD dvd's of my favorite movies.
I am waiting for the cost of either format player to drop to $300 then I will buy one of the other. I would pay $500 for the dual format player but not $1200. I am a survivor of the 8 track to cassette evolution, vhs to dvd evolution and will survive the current format wars but with a bit more wisdom and money in my pocket...I hope lol.
I have a very nice LG 50" plasma that is dying to show off with one of the hd formats but is surviving with my $80 Philips dvd player that actually works **** good for its' cost.
Good luck and I hope you all survive lol.

j3bus2k3
04-01-2007, 11:39 PM
I would love to buy a hd/blue ray player but at the current prices and the format war I just can not justify the purchase. I have seen both formats on varied systems and they are great. I do not see a format winner. Perhaps we will have both formats supported, see the new LG dvd player that supports both formats but is $1200 smackeroos, with no winner. That would not be too bad. But for me either choice may mean spending several hundred dollars or a bit more "re-buying" already purchased SD dvd's of my favorite movies.
I am waiting for the cost of either format player to drop to $300 then I will buy one of the other. I would pay $500 for the dual format player but not $1200. I am a survivor of the 8 track to cassette evolution, vhs to dvd evolution and will survive the current format wars but with a bit more wisdom and money in my pocket...I hope lol.
I have a very nice LG 50" plasma that is dying to show off with one of the hd formats but is surviving with my $80 Philips dvd player that actually works **** good for its' cost.
Good luck and I hope you all survive lol.

Our toshiba HD-DVD player was at $399 today at CC...

I'm also waiting for the dual format player. Screw chosing sides...

desertheat
04-02-2007, 12:52 AM
I have a ps3 in which I watch blueray... man I have to say it is AMAZING quality over a standard DVD. I would have chosen blueray over hd-dvd anyways personally if I was to just buy a standalone player but since it is already built into my ps3, it was the perfect match.

Raven
04-02-2007, 01:48 AM
Technologically, Blu-Ray is superior, but that's all it's got going for it. Jmac is right. The whole reason the lower quality VHS beat out betamax was because you could record on a VHS and you could record **** on a VHS. If Sony really is refusing the **** industry, they are dead. I don't know the figures but if 97% of the internet is ****, you can imagine the video recording industry holds an astoundingly high amount of it, too. If they just released the format openly for everything, it'd be a heated battle for a long time and would boil down whoever got enough advantage to release cheaper mass produced hardware.

phantom240
04-02-2007, 01:51 AM
Heres what I think of blu-ray...
Betamax.


/thread

1loudsuv
04-02-2007, 02:08 AM
Our toshiba HD-DVD player was at $399 today at CC...

I'm also waiting for the dual format player. Screw chosing sides...

plus if you buy it at CC you get 4 free movies from CC and 5 from toshiba so it makes it a $199 player..

JimJ
04-02-2007, 02:30 AM
Jmac is right.

!!!!!!!

Do I look Canadian to you eh?

:D

phyphoestilic
04-02-2007, 01:46 PM
I still remeber when regular DVD's were $5 a piece, that didnt last long :laugh: I'm just waiting for the Blu-ray or HD-DVD computer drives that are cheap enough. I only watch crap on my comp anyways.

1loudsuv
04-02-2007, 02:50 PM
Blue Ray > Toshiba HD DVD.
I emailed Sony about BLue Ray and why they decided NOT to do a double format/backwards compatible on their disks and they said they knew it would bring up the price 10 bucks per cd. . . . i also noticed that Toshiba HD DVD's with dual format are 10 bucks more expensive. . . . . Sony doesnt LIE :)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH sony doesnt lie HAHAHAHAHAHHA

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/warner-total-hd-1004.shtml

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/30722/113/

looks like your 2 cents where useless

1. their already coming with a disk you speak of
2. they are the same price as fox blu ray releases (39.99 retail)
3. i bet you dont own one of the formats let alone both, or have compared both on the same set

joetama
04-02-2007, 03:03 PM
Is anyone else starting to find this annoying?

Anyway, IIRC isn't the PS3 under par when it comes to playing Blue-Ray vs stand alone players?

joetama
04-02-2007, 03:10 PM
I've heard the PS3 is actually better than most other Blu-Ray players, but I haven't actually compared it to anything else. Blu-Ray on PS3 looks d*mn good, IMO.

BTW, Sony lies a lot ...

Just wondering because I had read early reviews that it was not so good. So many haters in the HT world it is hard to get a unbiased opinion... :laugh:

JimJ
04-02-2007, 03:21 PM
Yeah...

Imagine that...

:hilariou:

1loudsuv
04-02-2007, 03:25 PM
I've heard the PS3 is actually better than most other Blu-Ray players, but I haven't actually compared it to anything else. Blu-Ray on PS3 looks d*mn good, IMO.

BTW, Sony lies a lot ...

this is true ps3 is one of the best... and most future proof

JimJ
04-02-2007, 03:27 PM
... and most future proof

Nothing Sony is future-proof.

Please, give me an example in their illustrious past, I'm all ears :)

ndnbolla
04-02-2007, 03:38 PM
Define future-proof.

I would have a hard time finding anything nowadays thats future-proof.

I also find it funny that Betamax seems to be the only excuse of why Blu-Ray will fail.

And all this talk about the **** industry. The reason why VHS succeeded was because it was the first player to give the **** industry main stream access into everyones living room. Now that it already has main stream access it will play a very tiny role in who wins this war.

By the way, last time I checked, Blu-Rays were outselling HD DVDs 3 to 1. Doesn't that say anything?

1loudsuv
04-02-2007, 05:31 PM
Define future-proof.

I would have a hard time finding anything nowadays thats future-proof.

I also find it funny that Betamax seems to be the only excuse of why Blu-Ray will fail.

And all this talk about the **** industry. The reason why VHS succeeded was because it was the first player to give the **** industry main stream access into everyones living room. Now that it already has main stream access it will play a very tiny role in who wins this war.

By the way, last time I checked, Blu-Rays were outselling HD DVDs 3 to 1. Doesn't that say anything?

it is the only player that meets the new specs for bd that will be mandotory come november, and has the 1 gig of space required for those specs which no other blu ray player has....

and last time i checked sales where 1 to 1 with blu ray.... wheres your proof? kind of sad dont you think with millions of ps3s and yet blu ray cant keep a steady lead in software sales.

www.thedvdwars.com (site is down right now)

and the first to come out with a cheap main stream player will win. they already announced a chinease player coming out second quarter this year which will retail for $199, but whats funny is that hd-dvd players already cost that much with blu ray players besides the ps3 cost 4x as much. so their expecting the chinease player to cost $99 (hd-dvd) by the time its actually out second quarter this year.

j3bus2k3
04-02-2007, 05:35 PM
I've heard the PS3 is actually better than most other Blu-Ray players, but I haven't actually compared it to anything else. Blu-Ray on PS3 looks d*mn good, IMO.

BTW, Sony lies a lot ...

Sony Blu-ray players>Samsung Blu-Ray players...

Well, at least at my CC. We've replaced the samsung blu-ray on our 56" Samsung 1080P dlp, no joke, twice in the last month and 3 times before that...

The Sony unit on an endcap paired with a 40" XBR2 has lasted without a hitch for several months...

IamDeMan
04-02-2007, 06:27 PM
Doubtful, this is Sony after all :) I don't expect Blu-Ray to succeed where Betamax, Minidisc and SACD all failed...especially if they refuse the **** industry. That'll make or break the format.
X2 especially since they won't allow one influential industry adopt it. Not that I care about **** that isn't on the net, but you can't exclude an industry that is that big.

IamDeMan
04-02-2007, 06:29 PM
I think it is stupid that people would jump ship on Blue-ray because they weren't supporting ****.

Anyway, I support Blue-Ray in this whole thing... :fyi:
Why? It is Sony that is causing end users to jump ship by excluding it. Maybe to you and I and I'm sure many others we could care less ,but you have to admit there are many who do care. Sony is blackballing themselves by doing this not the end users.


In summary, Sony needs to stick with just bringing the hardware to the masses affordably and stay away from developing their own formats :p:

vpkb1998
04-02-2007, 09:04 PM
plus if you buy it at CC you get 4 free movies from CC and 5 from toshiba so it makes it a $199 player..

toshiba is getting desperate

ngsm13
04-02-2007, 09:19 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225172

nG

chibahawk
04-04-2007, 08:52 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225172

nG

Sweet read right there.

I'd have to say I was blown away with my first blu-ray dsic on my PS3. But I would never invest in a technology like this. It's not some huge landmark in technology. It's just more quality and quantity on a dvd. Hopefully bluray succeeds because I want prices to drop.

joetama
04-04-2007, 09:48 PM
The prices will drop until they come out with some sort of new technology that you need to spend your money on... :laugh:

blown65
04-09-2007, 07:06 PM
I actually have both, a first gen hd-dvd and the ps3.

The HD-DVD has the better picture quality. Mine has only froze once and the boot up time is quite long. Otherwise its been great.

PS3 picture quality isn't as good as HD-DVD but close. Froze once also, but boot time is way faster.

Movie cost overall is similar, but seems BluRay is a little more money on average of what I've purchased so far. Sound quality seems great from both also.

Both hooked up via HDMI to my 60" Sony (60A2000). Picture from both is quite a step above sd-dvd and also better than my HR20 DTV reciever.

1loudsuv
04-09-2007, 07:28 PM
^^^ same thing i think. i had a gen one but now i have a second gen hd-dvd players its allot faster then my a1 was and doesnt skip out of nowhere.

i tend to buy more blu ray movies lately due to all the lossless audio tracks it has. hd-dvd needs to get more movies with lossless audio. but blu ray needs to get more consistent with the picture quality

you dont get the full movie experience without them. with dvd you get sound compressed up the behind and same with picture.

UndercoverPunk
04-09-2007, 07:33 PM
I don't even have an HD TV... so I vote.... BetaMax.

newusername
04-09-2007, 07:38 PM
The advantage BluRay had over HD-DVD in terms of storage was recently lost when they started developing triple layer HD-DVD. Manufacturing costs of HD-DVD discs are still lower than BluRay and very easy to integrate into existing manufacturing plants.

blown65
04-09-2007, 07:59 PM
^^^ same thing i think. i had a gen one but now i have a second gen hd-dvd players its allot faster then my a1 was and doesnt skip out of nowhere.

i tend to buy more blu ray movies lately due to all the lossless audio tracks it has. hd-dvd needs to get more movies with lossless audio. but blu ray needs to get more consistent with the picture quality

you dont get the full movie experience without them. with dvd you get sound compressed up the behind and same with picture.


Ya, I need to update my A1 so I can take advantage of the lossless audio. I think I have two movies with that.

Ill prob wait till the next gen of players to upgrade my hddvd player. Just give mine to my sister or parents I guess. lol

bonesninja
04-09-2007, 08:02 PM
Doubtful, this is Sony after all :) I don't expect Blu-Ray to succeed where Betamax, Minidisc and SACD all failed...especially if they refuse the **** industry. That'll make or break the format.

so true....for those who want both there is this option..the LG Super Blu..it plays both formats.


http://www.gearlog.com/2007/04/haiku_review_lg_super_blu_play.php

1loudsuv
04-09-2007, 08:19 PM
so true....for those who want both there is this option..the LG Super Blu..it plays both formats.


http://www.gearlog.com/2007/04/haiku_review_lg_super_blu_play.php

for the money of that player you can get 9 movies (hd-dvds) a couple of blu ray movies a ps3 and an hd-a2.

and that players is crippled doesnt decode much and doesn have hd-dvds hdi.

1loudsuv
04-09-2007, 08:20 PM
Ya, I need to update my A1 so I can take advantage of the lossless audio. I think I have two movies with that.

Ill prob wait till the next gen of players to upgrade my hddvd player. Just give mine to my sister or parents I guess. lol

well if you dont have warranty i wouldnt update or if your using dvi.. i was updating mine to 2.1 and it shut off and died :( lol

blown65
04-13-2007, 12:08 AM
well if you dont have warranty i wouldnt update or if your using dvi.. i was updating mine to 2.1 and it shut off and died :( lol

I know alot of ppl had some die cause they updated with a disc in the drive. (2.0 and 2.1 updated the firmware of the drive itself) I'm all HDMI to my SXRD 60"

I dunno if I will update it really. Of the 2.0 and 2.1 updates, neither make it really worth it to me yet. I'm on version 1.4 if I recall correctly.

1loudsuv
04-13-2007, 12:15 AM
I know alot of ppl had some die cause they updated with a disc in the drive. (2.0 and 2.1 updated the firmware of the drive itself) I'm all HDMI to my SXRD 60"

I dunno if I will update it really. Of the 2.0 and 2.1 updates, neither make it really worth it to me yet. I'm on version 1.4 if I recall correctly.

i think 2.0 gives you truhd but dunno how much that matters to you and 2.1 gives you less skipping which my a1 had allot of....

blown65
04-13-2007, 01:33 PM
I have zero skipping. I would do it for the truhd sound but I just dont want to kill my player for that.

bonesninja
04-14-2007, 01:45 PM
for the money of that player you can get 9 movies (hd-dvds) a couple of blu ray movies a ps3 and an hd-a2.

and that players is crippled doesnt decode much and doesn have hd-dvds hdi.

i never said i would buy it.............