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Flipx99
03-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Housed inside is 4 eD 8s. The final nomial load is 2.6 ohms. Bandpasses are kind of a ***** to build so I won't be building another prolly.

I think it came out rather well. It looks more like an old piece of furniture than a glossy new toy. The ends on the back are kinda rough so I may sand them down.

I thought the edges on the top would give me a problem but they just made a more "aged" look.

Another thing I learned dealing with staining birch is you never know what you are gonna get. There was some scratches or something in the wood that are ordinarly invisible, but the stain brings them out. I think it adds character

Now, on for the pics:

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Flipx99
03-29-2007, 09:50 PM
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Still gonna throw another few coats of stain on there.


I should be jamming by next weekend, hopefully.

phyphoestilic
03-29-2007, 09:51 PM
good work , im not for bandpass boxes.

bdawson72
03-29-2007, 09:51 PM
when i saw mossman cometh.....i thought of preston

mlstrass
03-29-2007, 11:58 PM
You going to throw some polyurethane on it? Will look 100% better if you do. I've built a few stained BB boxes in the last month or so and the poly makes it look much better.

I like the green. Next box I do will have to be a colored stain...

Flipx99
03-30-2007, 12:02 AM
I will most definitely think about it....

I am torn between trying to ruin that "rustic" look

bdawson72
03-30-2007, 12:02 AM
nice box though

Immacomputer
03-30-2007, 12:32 AM
I hate the color...

The stain looks VERY uneven. I suggest sanding down as much as you can or getting some stain remover and starting over. Well, that is unless you like the look of the stroke lines.

What did you use to stain it and did you remove the excess when you put it on?

PV Audio
03-30-2007, 12:59 AM
With all due respect, what the **** did you do to the finish? This plywood thing is really getting out of hand.

PV Audio
03-30-2007, 12:59 AM
I hate the color...

The stain looks VERY uneven. I suggest sanding down as much as you can or getting some stain remover and starting over. Well, that is unless you like the look of the stroke lines.

What did you use to stain it and did you remove the excess when you put it on?
I think that for the first time ever, I agree with you 120%.

PV Audio
03-30-2007, 01:04 AM
Let alone the wood you have there is terrible for staining. Everything at lowes and home depot, whether it's oak, pine, birch, beech or ash plywood is all the same. The only difference is the veneer. They all have the same shittily made core with voids and cracked wood riddled throughout, then they slap on various veneers and sell them at different prices. How do I know this? I've used them all. ;)

Flipx99
03-30-2007, 10:12 AM
I hate the color...

The stain looks VERY uneven. I suggest sanding down as much as you can or getting some stain remover and starting over. Well, that is unless you like the look of the stroke lines.

What did you use to stain it and did you remove the excess when you put it on?

The streaks came out with additional coats. I also rubbed on it with a towel to try to make it more even. I would throw the box in the trash before I bought stain remover. That cost more than the wood.

Flipx99
03-30-2007, 10:13 AM
Let alone the wood you have there is terrible for staining. Everything at lowes and home depot, whether it's oak, pine, birch, beech or ash plywood is all the same. The only difference is the veneer. They all have the same shittily made core with voids and cracked wood riddled throughout, then they slap on various veneers and sell them at different prices. How do I know this? I've used them all. ;)

How do I know this more? I sell the ****.

This is stronger than mdf. I know for a fact because I can use this as a ramp for a cantilever whereas mdf breaks.

I just wanted to try it. I paid about $3 for the wood.

Flipx99
03-30-2007, 10:15 AM
With all due respect, what the **** did you do to the finish? This plywood thing is really getting out of hand.

Like I said, some things come up afterwards that the stain brought-out. There are some scratches and stuff that you cannot see or feel, but when you stain, they become more visible. How do I prepare for things I cannot observe is beyond me.

PV Audio
03-30-2007, 01:05 PM
How do I know this more? I sell the ****.

This is stronger than mdf. I know for a fact because I can use this as a ramp for a cantilever whereas mdf breaks.

I just wanted to try it. I paid about $3 for the wood.No, you don't understand. The fact that it is stronger has NOTHING to do with car audio construction. Any box, of any size, whether it be MDF or plywood will require the same bracing no matter what. You will NEVER see the strength advantages in car audio construction. Home audio is a different story, and then, you don't use that type of plywood (13 ply which runs ~60-90 dollars). You are throwing away money, I don't see why people can't realize that.

Flipx99
03-30-2007, 01:15 PM
No, you don't understand. The fact that it is stronger has NOTHING to do with car audio construction. Any box, of any size, whether it be MDF or plywood will require the same bracing no matter what. You will NEVER see the strength advantages in car audio construction. Home audio is a different story, and then, you don't use that type of plywood (13 ply which runs ~60-90 dollars). You are throwing away money, I don't see why people can't realize that.

There is $1 difference between mdf and birch. Birch runs me about $3 and mdf around $2. I buy broken pieces from work.

The main reason for choosing birch is because I wanted stain and see what it was like. Within 2 months, this box will find it's way to the woodpile.

I would like some suggestions on how to get the stain on smoother and why it come it in some places like it did.

I am not as serious about this as some others are. I just participate in this hobby to past the time and I enjoy building things. I do appreicate your criticism though. It keeps me from being arrogant.

PV Audio
03-30-2007, 01:20 PM
Excuse my prior harshness, I get frustrated easily. :)

What I was trying to say beneath it all is that if you want to stain, you're using the wrong type of wood. If that birch costs you only 1 dollar more, it's definitely not the right type. Get some 13 ply birch from a cabinetry shop, even oak or pine works well. It's what nice end tables and cabinets are made out of. When you stain that, it looks beautiful. Slap some poly or shellac on top and you're golden.

Flipx99
03-30-2007, 02:01 PM
Excuse my prior harshness, I get frustrated easily. :)

What I was trying to say beneath it all is that if you want to stain, you're using the wrong type of wood. If that birch costs you only 1 dollar more, it's definitely not the right type. Get some 13 ply birch from a cabinetry shop, even oak or pine works well. It's what nice end tables and cabinets are made out of. When you stain that, it looks beautiful. Slap some poly or shellac on top and you're golden.

This runs about $39 in the stores but I get what you are saying.

The staining didn't look as it should because the wood is of low quality. But I kinda like the way it looks though.

My woodworking skills definietly do not warrent me spending $50 on a sheet of 13ply.

PV Audio
03-30-2007, 02:08 PM
To rectify it if you wish, cover it in poly. It seriously makes a huge difference.

Flipx99
03-30-2007, 02:10 PM
Will do.

jcbabb
03-30-2007, 10:55 PM
It also makes a huge difference to sand it down before finishing. There are always small scratches even from sliding the wood on the table saw that can't be seen. Sometimes a sanding sealer brings them out prior to final sanding as well.

lol, mossman. Is that a water based stain?

Flipx99
03-31-2007, 01:26 AM
It also makes a huge difference to sand it down before finishing. There are always small scratches even from sliding the wood on the table saw that can't be seen. Sometimes a sanding sealer brings them out prior to final sanding as well.

lol, mossman. Is that a water based stain?

Oil. I modifed an existing color.