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farshad
02-16-2007, 04:19 AM
which one? sound clarity(9835 or 880?) , crossovers(9835 or 880?) and ... what are your opinions?

champaned_out
02-16-2007, 04:32 AM
im about 90% sure i saw a thread on this, search pioneer 880 and you'll come up with alot of info and comparison threads for the 880prs

farshad
02-16-2007, 09:09 AM
thank cham i'v read alot of info about p880 .. want to know more about comparison between these tow decks . please help!

JohnnyChuttz
02-16-2007, 02:21 PM
A properly tuned 880 > all (in its price range).

A guy at work bought the 9835 from Best Buy. After hearing my 880 he asked, "Why don't they sell sell these at BB?" I just laughed and said I dunno.

His sounded decent on Type-R coax's all around on a 50x4 amp. I really can't give you a head to head.

zSnb
02-16-2007, 02:30 PM
You can use both in an active mode with alot of crossover options. The 880 has a couple more tuning options and a bigger equalizer. I think it would be in your best interest to go for the 880. Not only because its a slightly better unit, but because it will be new for the same price. Unless you're rich, its not really a good idea to shell out that much money on something that has been used awhile. Not to mention that when you buy a used head unit its gonna have scratches and worn out paint 9 times out of 10.

JimJ
02-16-2007, 02:30 PM
Depends on what you're comfortable with...

The 880 has some neat features that the '35 doesn't have, like AutoEQ/TA.

But the 9835 never had the quality control issues that plagued the 880.

zSnb
02-16-2007, 03:04 PM
Depends on what you're comfortable with...

The 880 has some neat features that the '35 doesn't have, like AutoEQ/TA.

But the 9835 never had the quality control issues that plagued the 880.

Quality control issues on the 880????? Where did that come from??

JimJ
02-16-2007, 03:09 PM
Where did that come from??

Pioneer, I guess? :D

I only speak from the people I've known that have had issues, and the noise issues reported on this board...both people I know locally that have bought one had to return them to get fixed.

zSnb
02-16-2007, 04:33 PM
Yeah there were some issues with Pioneer preouts making noises back when it was called the 8600/860mp. The 2006+ Pioneer units dont have this problem. Just make sure everything is properly grounded.

danteBirosel
02-16-2007, 04:52 PM
A properly tuned 880 > all (in its price range).

A guy at work bought the 9835 from Best Buy. After hearing my 880 he asked, "Why don't they sell sell these at BB?" I just laughed and said I dunno.

His sounded decent on Type-R coax's all around on a 50x4 amp. I really can't give you a head to head.
How recent did he buy a 9835 at bestbuy?



dB

JimJ
02-16-2007, 04:55 PM
The 2006+ Pioneer units dont have this problem. Just make sure everything is properly grounded.

So all those people with noisy 880PRS's must have been making it up...

:)

zSnb
02-17-2007, 12:41 AM
they werent properly grounded.

iceteebone
02-17-2007, 12:55 AM
So all those people with noisy 880PRS's must have been making it up...

:)


you're wasting your time. 880 is the current boner so it could spontaneously combust and they won't care.

photocrazy8
02-17-2007, 01:01 AM
How recent did he buy a 9835 at bestbuy?



dB

they dont sell em at best buy any more. i work at best buy. the best thing we have is the Alpine W-200

iceteebone
02-17-2007, 01:03 AM
they dont sell em at best buy any more. i work at best buy. the best thing we have is the Alpine W-200

considering they were made in 2004 i would imagine they wouldn't be sold there anymore

Speedyd718
02-17-2007, 01:10 AM
no probs with my 880. i had a 960 that i bought off ebay with a ground issue. pioneer sent me to their in town service center and had it fixed for no charge. they said no matter where the purchase was that it was a current model (then) and shouldn't have any issues.

farshad
02-17-2007, 04:38 AM
thanks for the responses .. how about 7998r v 880? i want to have something different! my friends all have pioneer! was the 7998r in produce line of 2006?

99StangGt
02-17-2007, 06:25 AM
9835 is a good deck. 880 is a good deck also. the 9835 does have something the 880 doesnt do and that is 3-way active with sub woofer control without going into the menu. Its right there with a click of the knob. the 880 has more EQ , so it could go either depending on what you need. I have had 2 of each and like both. If you need some EQ then the 880. If you like quick control of the sub then the 9835. As far as SQ then its more then the deck but alot more about the placement and the install.

zSnb
02-17-2007, 08:07 AM
7998 is Alpine from waay back in the day. In my opinion the 7998 < 9835. Correct me if im wrong but I do not think the 7998 has mp3 playback if that matters to you. With head units, you have maby 5 or 6 nice options. Its not like speakers and subs where this is no single best one out. The 880prs is only the forum "boner" because its the best preforming deck in its price range since the day it came out. Now you can find it for about $100 less then it used to be so its an even better deal. Dont sacrifice quality or unreasonable amounts of $$ to have something most people dont have.

farshad
02-17-2007, 09:12 AM
thank zSnb , im thinking .. maybe went with 880:)

zSnb
02-17-2007, 10:24 AM
I promis you'll be very very pleased with it ;)

quakerroatmeal
02-17-2007, 11:30 AM
If you don't mind me asking. Whered you purchase the 880prs?

JohnnyChuttz
02-17-2007, 11:51 AM
Sorry, I'm retarded. My co-worker has the 9857. I just did a quick google search and saw a small pic of the deck.

I bought mine used from Mattmcss on this board.

quakerroatmeal
02-17-2007, 12:18 PM
So were u comparing the 9857 or the 9835 to the 880prs? The 9857 is crap compared to both 9835 and 880prs. No comparision.

IamDeMan
02-17-2007, 03:44 PM
So were u comparing the 9857 or the 9835 to the 880prs? The 9857 is crap compared to both 9835 and 880prs. No comparision.

Indeed.

I love my 9835. Just enough options for me.

JohnnyChuttz
02-17-2007, 04:42 PM
Yes, comparing the 9835 to the 880. Crap.

<--Retarded

ngsm13
02-17-2007, 04:44 PM
Depends on what you're comfortable with...

The 880 has some neat features that the '35 doesn't have, like AutoEQ/TA.

But the 9835 never had the quality control issues that plagued the 880.

Yup.

Crossover, they have the same options.

The 9835 is more reliable and trusted IMHO... it has better internals.

The 880 does have a larger EQ section though... and it is graphic.

nG

adam71
02-17-2007, 06:06 PM
Yup.

Crossover, they have the same options.

The 9835 is more reliable and trusted IMHO... it has better internals.

The 880 does have a larger EQ section though... and it is graphic.

nG

It may be more trusted and reliable but that doesn't mean its a necessarily a better deck. Its been out longer so it has a more trusted history. Give the 880 a few years and then let's see how it is trusted. As far as internals are concerned that is a pretty bold statement to make unless you've actually sat down and tore them both apart. I'm not saying I disagree about it because most car audio equipment made 5 years ago was put together better than the stuff made today. Atleast build quality wise. I have to say the one 880 I've held feels very solid, just as solid as my old 920.


9835 is a good deck. 880 is a good deck also. the 9835 does have something the 880 doesnt do and that is 3-way active with sub woofer control without going into the menu. Its right there with a click of the knob. the 880 has more EQ , so it could go either depending on what you need. I have had 2 of each and like both. If you need some EQ then the 880. If you like quick control of the sub then the 9835. As far as SQ then its more then the deck but alot more about the placement and the install.

I wasn't aware of that. But then again I haven't trusted Alpine since my bad experience 14 years ago. I personally don't see the need for adjusting the bass that often but to each his own. In my last install I had an EBC for just that but hardly ever touched it.

zSnb
02-17-2007, 06:53 PM
I dont have an 880 but i do have a 780. It can be found for the best price at Sonicelectronix.com.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6822.html#

That also something very curious.....The local shop told me that the 880prs is only white screen. That pic shows a blue screen. I know you can change the color of the knobs. Is there a way to change the color of the screen too?

ngsm13
02-17-2007, 07:19 PM
It may be more trusted and reliable but that doesn't mean its a necessarily a better deck. Its been out longer so it has a more trusted history. Give the 880 a few years and then let's see how it is trusted. As far as internals are concerned that is a pretty bold statement to make unless you've actually sat down and tore them both apart. I'm not saying I disagree about it because most car audio equipment made 5 years ago was put together better than the stuff made today. Atleast build quality wise. I have to say the one 880 I've held feels very solid, just as solid as my old 920.



I wasn't aware of that. But then again I haven't trusted Alpine since my bad experience 14 years ago. I personally don't see the need for adjusting the bass that often but to each his own. In my last install I had an EBC for just that but hardly ever touched it.

Well, when I have a a 150+ daily setup... I really like the sub-out control one push away...

;)

nG

quakerroatmeal
02-18-2007, 12:44 AM
Just notice sonicelectronix shows that the 880prs is a 3.5v preamp output voltage, but pioneer site clearly state its a 5v preamp output voltages. So who's wrong? Most likely sonic right?

farshad
02-18-2007, 06:06 AM
hi dears
my new decision! im considering 1000$ headunits;) who knows maybe waited for one of them:yumyum: my budget is 500$ now .. how much is the SQ difference between a 1000$ HU and 500$? for example: p880prs & P9 combo ?
please give me some recommendations .
thankful

IamDeMan
02-18-2007, 08:46 AM
Well, when I have a a 150+ daily setup... I really like the sub-out control one push away...

;)

nG
Indeed!

I may not have a 150+ setup, but I listen to a WIDE variety of music with my Ipod on shuffle. I like the bass over empasized on rap/hip hop and tone down and natural for most other types. I am constantly changing the level, so being 1 button away FTMFW!

zSnb
02-18-2007, 01:19 PM
Im sure you'll be able to customize the sound to your likeing with a 880prs. Spend the other $700 on some really nice components and amp. Maby even a really big sub and amp. Those options will have a bigger impact on your sound for the money you plan on spending.

JimJ
02-18-2007, 01:29 PM
how much is the SQ difference between a 1000$ HU and 500$? for example: p880prs & P9 combo ?

If it's between the 880PRS and the P9 combo, there's absolutely no comparison there. Get the P9 DEX/DEQ :)

For the person who said that the noise in the 880PRS was a result of improper grounding, I'm trying to figure out what's more proper than a 10awg run direct to the battery...when Eclipses and lower level Pioneers have absolutely no problems under the same conditions. I'm not saying the 880 is a bad deck, I think it has some great features...trick is finding a good one :)

ngsm13
02-18-2007, 01:39 PM
Indeed.

nG

budahbuddy803
02-18-2007, 01:44 PM
P800 ftw

thatguy
02-18-2007, 01:44 PM
7998 is Alpine from waay back in the day. In my opinion the 7998 < 9835. Correct me if im wrong but I do not think the 7998 has mp3 playback if that matters to you. .

Wrong the 7998 support Mp3.
Alpine 7909>7998>7987>9835>9855 :)

zSnb
02-18-2007, 03:16 PM
If it's between the 880PRS and the P9 combo, there's absolutely no comparison there. Get the P9 DEX/DEQ :)

For the person who said that the noise in the 880PRS was a result of improper grounding, I'm trying to figure out what's more proper than a 10awg run direct to the battery...when Eclipses and lower level Pioneers have absolutely no problems under the same conditions. I'm not saying the 880 is a bad deck, I think it has some great features...trick is finding a good one :)

you make it sound like its a task to find a working p880prs. my good friend has one, all the guys at the shop run them, and alot of the cars i see at local meets all have 880's and i dont hear any noise. I used to own a p8mp that had the noise issue and it was not even a problem once you start listening to music. At very very low volume that little noise disappears.

quakerroatmeal
02-18-2007, 03:32 PM
Wrong the 7998 support Mp3.
Alpine 7909>7998>7987>9835>9855 :)

9855>9835? Wrong. 9835>9855. Glidetouch FTL. IMO Personal preference anyways.

bjboertje
02-18-2007, 04:17 PM
he said 9835>9855. i like my glidetouch, just takes a little to get used to.

Ctminime
02-18-2007, 04:19 PM
i agree that the 9835 is a superior unit to the 55, but i dont mind my 9855 a bit... i love the thing. and like the last poster said the glide touch is actually kinda nice once you get used to it

adam71
02-18-2007, 09:17 PM
If it's between the 880PRS and the P9 combo, there's absolutely no comparison there. Get the P9 DEX/DEQ :)

For the person who said that the noise in the 880PRS was a result of improper grounding, I'm trying to figure out what's more proper than a 10awg run direct to the battery...when Eclipses and lower level Pioneers have absolutely no problems under the same conditions. I'm not saying the 880 is a bad deck, I think it has some great features...trick is finding a good one :)


My local shop has sold 7 of them and NONE of them have come back.;)