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sinosic
02-14-2007, 10:55 PM
im going to attempt to make a 8" solo barrac l5 sound like something hopefully alot bigger. i saw a video of two 6.5" speakers that pound like 2 12", 1 15",4 10"
thats pretty phat. i have looked up the snailshell enclosures on the net, and found very little about how to make one. i know its not going to be easy any kind of input would be good thank you. i will upload pics as i begin the story of the little 8 that could.

mazdakid
02-14-2007, 11:06 PM
good luck

sinosic
02-14-2007, 11:26 PM
do you have any ideas , does anyone ?

Tempe
02-14-2007, 11:32 PM
http://www.teamtoxicbass.com/design/index.htm

:cool:

baseballer1100
02-14-2007, 11:33 PM
dat would be phat.

Duke
02-14-2007, 11:37 PM
Snailshells are a variation of a rear horn. Learn how to design rear loaded horns with a choke point.

audiobahnuser18
02-14-2007, 11:44 PM
Good luck man be sure to keep us all updated.

singlefordrange
02-15-2007, 12:01 AM
subscribed!

sinosic
02-15-2007, 12:27 AM
im starting this mission tomorrow. i think im want to try this design. what do you guys think? i know i cant just throw up panels and think its going to sound good but how can i figure out the dimensions for my cuts?


http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/383/1a1a1azw1.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1a1a1azw1.jpg)

skmfkr
02-15-2007, 12:30 AM
might as well play it free air

coolahan
02-15-2007, 01:22 AM
might as well play it free air

lol :laugh:

Volenti
02-15-2007, 02:37 AM
im starting this mission tomorrow. i think im want to try this design. what do you guys think? i know i cant just throw up panels and think its going to sound good but how can i figure out the dimensions for my cuts?



What car do you have? post the T/S parameters for that sub and I'll have a look at what will work.

sinosic
02-15-2007, 03:57 AM
What car do you have? post the T/S parameters for that sub and I'll have a look at what will work.


What car do you have? post the T/S parameters for that sub and I'll have a look at what will work.

the car is a 2002 vw jetta(my girlfriends car)

heres a screenshot of the parameters in bass box pro 6

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8208/image2ty4.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image2ty4.jpg)

Volenti
02-15-2007, 11:01 AM
Ok we can go with a modified version of the horn design you posted, I estimated the dimentions of that horn and modeled it as it stood;

http://users.bigpond.net.au/volenti/jetta_horn.gif

lots of output up high but poor low frequency performance.

If we make the chamber behind the driver larger, and the start of the throat smaller we get this;

http://users.bigpond.net.au/volenti/jetta_horn2.gif

Out put is still strong but the response is smoother and deeper, this plot also isn't taking into account the response of the car, idealy this enclosure should be positioned in the car so that the car becomes an extension of the horn flare, you'll need to expriment a little to find the best location.

The chamber behind the driver should be .735cuft, the throat opening=14 square inches, horn length=45'' and the mouth opening= 300 square inches. Exponential flare.

sinosic
02-15-2007, 11:36 AM
ok, what would the box dimensions be hxwxl ? or do i need to figure out with the last piece of info you left?

"The chamber behind the driver should be .735cuft, the throat opening=14 square inches, horn length=45'' and the mouth opening= 300 square inches. Exponential flare"

sinosic
02-15-2007, 11:41 AM
what do you think of this one i sketchup

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2006/tightbcy2.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tightbcy2.jpg)

sinosic
02-15-2007, 01:17 PM
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Wonger
02-15-2007, 05:31 PM
you should get demensions first then skecth it up. not the other way around.

Chevyaudio
02-15-2007, 05:34 PM
Are you just throwing panels in a box....or are you really designing the box.

sinosic
02-15-2007, 05:42 PM
how do i get demensions for a folded horn enclosure for a 8" solobarrac sub?
is there a formual or something? if its unknown is there another box thats just as loud?

Tempe
02-15-2007, 05:55 PM
http://www.diysubwoofers.org/bnd/6thord4.htm
http://www.diysubwoofers.org/bnd/bandpass.zip

T

Chevyaudio
02-15-2007, 05:58 PM
how do i get demensions for a folded horn enclosure for a 8" solobarrac sub?
is there a formual or something? if its unknown is there another box thats just as loud?

It takes experience to design a horn loaded "style" enclosure.

You just cant throw pieces together.

Volenti
02-15-2007, 06:00 PM
how do i get demensions for a folded horn enclosure for a 8" solobarrac sub?
is there a formual or something? if its unknown is there another box thats just as loud?

I didn't have time to sketch out the folded horn design, there are other enclosures that will get as loud or louder at a peak frequency than the horn, vented, 4th order BP, but none will match the wide bandwidth gain of the horn over it's operating range.

Give be the max W,D,H you can spare in the car and I'll see if I can squeeze the horn in there.

sinosic
02-15-2007, 10:45 PM
thank you for your time, i was worried nobody was going to help.

if the horn is to be assembled out side of car max would be 33"x33"x21"(w,d,h)
if thats not good enough , the enclosure can be put togther in the drunk. theres alot more room if needed . i will measure again if thats the case. thanks again

MTXThunder9500
02-15-2007, 10:49 PM
im going to attempt to make a 8" solo barrac l5 sound like something hopefully alot bigger. i saw a video of two 6.5" speakers that pound like 2 12", 1 15",4 10"
thats pretty phat. i have looked up the snailshell enclosures on the net, and found very little about how to make one. i know its not going to be easy any kind of input would be good thank you. i will upload pics as i begin the story of the little 8 that could.

where did you see the movie of the 6's? they might have been mine

skmfkr
02-15-2007, 11:12 PM
hes talking about the 2 audiobahn 6.5 vids from snailshell or some ****

MTXThunder9500
02-15-2007, 11:25 PM
hes talking about the 2 audiobahn 6.5 vids from snailshell or some ****

i HAD two audiobahn 6's in a double shot............snailshells are for single subs only. then i switched them to two 6" eu 700's and got better results

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c169/MTXThunder9500/?action=view&current=EU700testsongs.flv

thehardknoxlife
02-15-2007, 11:31 PM
i HAD two audiobahn 6's in a double shot............snailshells are for single subs only. then i switched them to two 6" eu 700's and got better results

http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c169/MTXThunder9500/?action=view&current=EU700testsongs.flv

They look like they were taking a beating on the low note in Bass I love you. What were the box specs?

MTXThunder9500
02-16-2007, 08:26 AM
They look like they were taking a beating on the low note in Bass I love you. What were the box specs?

box specs? all i know is its a nolte audio double shot. its almost like a horn with out the flared port. Its a box that has a really flat response and will get the lows really easy

Volenti
02-17-2007, 08:31 AM
Ok I've drawn up a plan, the image is huge so I'm linking (http://users.bigpond.net.au/volenti/horn_plan.gif) it, sinosic if you have more questions about the plan feel free to ask.

sinosic
02-17-2007, 08:47 AM
nice, very nice. thank you for the design..i will let you know how it turns out..wish me luck master......cause i know i will need it.


thanks again,
young padawan