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adio
01-23-2007, 02:21 AM
http://usa.denon.com/avr1603_productsheet.pdf

if u look in the lower left-hand corner ( blow the pdf up to 400%) , it says 'antennae terminals'. right below that, it says ' FR, FL, C, SW........' is that where i can hook up a powered amp to the receiver?

Scoobydoo
01-23-2007, 08:13 AM
those are 6 channel discrete inputs for something like a sacd player

you need outputs and it looks like the only output is the sub out

joetama
01-23-2007, 01:46 PM
Apparently you only have a sub out..... That is kind of ******........

It would say "Pre-Out" where you hook up an amp....

adio
01-24-2007, 01:14 AM
thanks, so here' another question............ why do ppl buy receivers w/high power output and put an amp on there? if u have a receiver that can truly put out 110wpc on 5 or 7 channels simultaneously, why put an amp on there?

thylantyr
01-24-2007, 01:42 AM
thanks, so here' another question............ why do ppl buy receivers w/high power output and put an amp on there?

The 'receiver market' is a scam.

A simple thing like RCA preouts should be standard even on the cheapest receivers, yet they are not. They make many models with more features as
you scale up in price to milk the consumer for more money.

So.. lets say you want preouts, then you need some other esoteric function,
you might only get this in the higher priced models.. the power ratings natural
scales up too ...

If I want bare bones features with preouts, I will buy a medium grade reciever
with ok power ratings and use an external amp if I have a demanding install.

If I want esoteric features with preouts but still plan to use external amplification
for my demanding install, then I might be force to buy a $1k+ receiver and guess
what? It also has a higher power rating that I don't want.

Solution? Buy a dedicated preamp / processor... Guess what? Those prepros
with no built in amplifiers may cost more than the Denon etal receiver with
internal amps... lol

That's the scam that is played.

can truly put out 110wpc on 5 or 7 channels simultaneously, why put an amp on there?

My solution to problems is to hook it up and try it. Buy a receiver, hook it up
to your system and see if the receiver's amplifier can drive your speakers well.
If so, cool. If not, buy an amp.

adio
01-24-2007, 02:43 AM
thanks, so here' another question............ why do ppl buy receivers w/high power output and put an amp on there?

The 'receiver market' is a scam.

A simple thing like RCA preouts should be standard even on the cheapest receivers, yet they are not. They make many models with more features as
you scale up in price to milk the consumer for more money.

So.. lets say you want preouts, then you need some other esoteric function,
you might only get this in the higher priced models.. the power ratings natural
scales up too ...

If I want bare bones features with preouts, I will buy a medium grade reciever
with ok power ratings and use an external amp if I have a demanding install.

If I want esoteric features with preouts but still plan to use external amplification
for my demanding install, then I might be force to buy a $1k+ receiver and guess
what? It also has a higher power rating that I don't want.

Solution? Buy a dedicated preamp / processor... Guess what? Those prepros
with no built in amplifiers may cost more than the Denon etal receiver with
internal amps... lol

That's the scam that is played.

can truly put out 110wpc on 5 or 7 channels simultaneously, why put an amp on there?

My solution to problems is to hook it up and try it. Buy a receiver, hook it up
to your system and see if the receiver's amplifier can drive your speakers well.
If so, cool. If not, buy an amp.

who sells/makes these??

Scoobydoo
01-24-2007, 03:41 AM
many many companies make preamp/processors, just depends on how much you want to spend

don't plan on spending less than $1000 for a decent combo unless you are buying used

Outlaw 970/7075 for $1298 is a pretty **** nice combo

http://www.outlawaudio.com/index.html

joetama
01-24-2007, 08:34 AM
They put the amps in the receivers as a "convenience" thing for people who either don't have the space or don't know any better to buy a separate power amp.

Also, I have heard good things about that Outlaw combo.

What speakers are you running BTW?

adio
01-26-2007, 02:22 AM
The put the amps in the receivers as a "continence" thing for people who either don't have the space or don't know any better to buy a separate power amp.

Also, I have heard good things about that Outlaw combo.

What speakers are you running BTW?

rca speakers from radioshack:)

joetama
01-26-2007, 10:49 AM
rca speakers from radioshack:)

I think you might be worrying too much about your amps then.... ;)

adam71
01-26-2007, 02:36 PM
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3254.asp#


This is Denon's cheapest A/V reciever with Pre outs.