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TypeRBass
01-08-2007, 08:07 PM
figured i'd start a post for it...
4 9515's
4 zx2500.1's
some boom boom

heres the progress thus far:
wood:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00009-1.jpg

my uber fake horn
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00010.jpg

**** box crushin my smokes...:(
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00012.jpg

double front baffle:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00001.jpg

inside of the box view...roundover for the ports to fit flush..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00002.jpg

another top view:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00003.jpg

yerp hopefully get the top baffles done tomorrow maybe..depends on if i'm lazy or not.

keifersracing
01-08-2007, 08:08 PM
looks good man

DaGh0st
01-08-2007, 08:08 PM
<<gonna be wacthing this thread.


Smokeing is bad for you :fyi:

ElJaco119
01-08-2007, 08:09 PM
word....always a loud enclosure

bibby
01-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Looks good

Ricky616
01-08-2007, 08:11 PM
subscribed should be :crazy: loudd.

keifersracing
01-08-2007, 08:11 PM
typerbass will you be at the june 17 event with that box

TypeRBass
01-08-2007, 08:11 PM
typerbass will you be at the june 17 event with that box

what june 17 event?

ElJaco119
01-08-2007, 08:11 PM
watcha aiming for this time Joe? (db)

keifersracing
01-08-2007, 08:12 PM
what june 17 event?

http://www.termpro.com/dbdrag/

TypeRBass
01-08-2007, 08:14 PM
http://www.termpro.com/dbdrag/

the kendalville show? I sure will be.

PESteele
01-08-2007, 08:14 PM
are the top holes gunna be port holes? where u gunna get 15 inch aeroports

ElJaco119
01-08-2007, 08:14 PM
http://www.termpro.com/asp/members2.asp?Who=13&MemberID=9029

keifersracing
01-08-2007, 08:16 PM
the kendalville show? I sure will be.

cool hope to see you there agine

saywhat?
01-08-2007, 08:45 PM
are the top holes gunna be port holes? where u gunna get 15 inch aeroports

?? thats for (6) 6 inch aeros id bet.

baseballer1100
01-08-2007, 08:50 PM
Looks loud.

TypeRBass
01-08-2007, 08:54 PM
?? thats for (6) 6 inch aeros id bet.

corrrrrrect 6 6" aero's on this box.

tEh koRnDog
01-08-2007, 08:54 PM
looks good

baseballer1100
01-08-2007, 08:55 PM
corrrrrrect 6 6" aero's on this box.

I want some 6" aeros....

Wkbdkid
01-08-2007, 09:43 PM
I want some 6" aeros....
Me to. Whats the difference between this box and the last?

mazdakid
01-08-2007, 11:06 PM
i was gonna ask about the horn and the aeroports together, but i just now saw you said its fake

mattf
01-08-2007, 11:49 PM
<<gonna be wacthing this thread.


Smokeing is bad for you :fyi:
So is bad grammar. :fyi: ;)



Box is looking good.

ngsm13
01-09-2007, 03:54 AM
****.

nG

photocrazy8
01-09-2007, 04:07 AM
corrrrrrect 6 6" aero's on this box.

so thats 3 6 inch aeros per two subs. thats only 85 sq in of port per two subs. to me that seems a little low. im sure im wrong with something here. what are you trying to do, i wish to learn... thanks, andrew

pwnt by pat
01-09-2007, 11:53 AM
a=pi * r * r

3*3*3.14=28.26

28.26*6=169.56

85 per sub...

AudioXtremes
01-09-2007, 01:06 PM
a=pi * r * r

3*3*3.14=28.26

28.26*6=169.56

85 per sub...
There are 4 subs.....:rolleyes:

pwnt by pat
01-09-2007, 01:52 PM
There are 4 subs.....:rolleyes:

meh bad :uhoh: misread

tommyk90
01-09-2007, 02:06 PM
so thats 3 6 inch aeros per two subs. thats only 85 sq in of port per two subs. to me that seems a little low. im sure im wrong with something here. what are you trying to do, i wish to learn... thanks, andrew

To those asking about the differences between this box and the one in there currently, here ya go

1) this box has the same amount of airspace
2) this box is made out of birch to save some weight
3) this box will have a TRIPLE baffle
4) this box has three 6" ports per chamber (2 subs per chamber)
5) this box has a doubled up port baffle with rounded over edges so the ports sit flush on the wood, unlike the old box where they stick up a little bit. This will result in smoother airflow and an overall stronger box since the panel has a lot of area cut out of it and needed to be stronger.

The old box had four 6" ports per chamber, but after some testing and plugging, three 6" ports per chamber resulted in better performance on the meter and had a better peak frequency. Thus, the same size box was rebuilt with only three ports per chamber instead.

skydeaner
01-09-2007, 02:07 PM
so the aeroports are going inside the box right? That doesn't seem to leave much enclosure volume... how long are they? Tuning is going to be pretty high right?

tommyk90
01-09-2007, 02:09 PM
so the aeroports are going inside the box right? That doesn't seem to leave much enclosure volume... how long are they? Tuning is going to be pretty high right?

No, the ports are external. Just like his old box.

PV Audio
01-09-2007, 03:42 PM
Edumacate me on that there horn. I'm curious. :)

tommyk90
01-09-2007, 03:44 PM
Edumacate me on that there horn. I'm curious. :)

It was a joke? Unless i'm missing your sarcasm?

PV Audio
01-09-2007, 04:21 PM
It looked real to me, plus I can't read. :(

tommyk90
01-09-2007, 04:23 PM
It looked real to me, plus I can't read. :(

Nah, we just threw that together for laughs. :)

Hopefully some more progress will happen today if joe gets off his lazy *** and puts the baffles on.

12 holes cut out, 12 more to go!

azbass
01-09-2007, 04:24 PM
the horn would have been better.....

tommyk90
01-09-2007, 04:26 PM
the horn would have been better.....

Meh.

You would need an awfully large horn to properly fit 4 15's. :)

PV Audio
01-09-2007, 05:06 PM
What would that be, like 20 cubic feet? At least for a decent Drisko type horn, that seems about right. I still have no idea how to design one. :(

TypeRBass
01-09-2007, 06:19 PM
box is done minus the rounding over of the outside edges and rounding over the flushmount baffle...:) it looks prettttttty...pics in a bit after i shower...werd.

Bumpn Focus
01-09-2007, 06:28 PM
:woot:

PV Audio
01-09-2007, 07:17 PM
How about pics IN the shower? :naughty:

TypeRBass
01-09-2007, 07:22 PM
How about pics IN the shower? :naughty:

err thats creepy...

heres some new pics...

wow thats a lot of circle cutouts...ughz...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00009-2.jpg

2 baffles on...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00010-1.jpg

triple baffle is ****. lots o sanding to do to this box though before the finish :(
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00012-1.jpg

phew thats a tight squeeze.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00014.jpg

tripppppple (yeh the top baffle is gonna be rounded over where the sub drops in, looks ooglay all just straight about it.)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00013.jpg

sku
01-09-2007, 09:33 PM
Wow very nice!

What is it about this box that is going to make it louder then the previous box you had (that one looked extremely sturdy already)?

Inquiring minds...

baseballer1100
01-09-2007, 11:16 PM
i like circles....

Wkbdkid
01-09-2007, 11:31 PM
Props to you:thumbsup: If i wanted some 6" aeros what would that cost me? If ya dont wanna say a PM is fine

TypeRBass
01-10-2007, 04:51 PM
anyone want more pics?

AudioXtremes
01-10-2007, 05:25 PM
I do.

AudioXtremes
01-10-2007, 05:26 PM
Wow very nice!

What is it about this box that is going to make it louder then the previous box you had (that one looked extremely sturdy already)?

Inquiring minds...


The old box had 8 4" ports. Even 4 6" would be louder. But there is 6 6"!!!!

TypeRBass
01-10-2007, 05:32 PM
The old box had 8 4" ports. Even 4 6" would be louder. But there is 6 6"!!!!

4 6" ports on the whole box is not louder than 6 6" ports all together...

where did you get that odd idea from?

Chevyaudio
01-10-2007, 05:35 PM
Makes me want to go buy a sheet of birch and start building a box.

tommyk90
01-10-2007, 05:37 PM
The old box had 8 4" ports. Even 4 6" would be louder. But there is 6 6"!!!!

Wrong.

The old box has 8 6" ports, this box has 6 6" ports.

Wonger
01-10-2007, 05:42 PM
Soooo many holes

AudioXtremes
01-10-2007, 05:44 PM
4 6" ports on the whole box is not louder than 6 6" ports all together...

where did you get that odd idea from?

I was saying 4 6" ports is louder than 8 4" ports. I thought your old box had 4" ports from what I saw.

It did nice hairtricks at the H&K show.

TypeRBass
01-10-2007, 05:51 PM
I was saying 4 6" ports is louder than 8 4" ports. I thought your old box had 4" ports from what I saw.

It did nice hairtricks at the H&K show.

naaah old box had 6" ports. 4" ports are tiny :(

Chevyaudio
01-10-2007, 05:51 PM
hmmm...I want to see some pics.

TypeRBass
01-10-2007, 05:56 PM
hmmm...I want to see some pics.

well lemme shower...and then i'll upload some pics...have to charge the camera battery for a sec, its dead :(

TypeRBass
01-10-2007, 07:36 PM
ehhh here's some pics:

all edges rounded over...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00016.jpg

wood filler in the screw holes...messsssy
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00017.jpg

man can't get any closer than this..:)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00018.jpg

ugh sanding tomorrow, funz..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00022.jpg

triple baffle closeup pic...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00020.jpg

mikey060
01-10-2007, 07:37 PM
tight

keifersracing
01-10-2007, 07:37 PM
looks like it will be loud as hell

vetkilr
01-10-2007, 09:01 PM
Sweet man.

Tuning the same?

mazdakid
01-10-2007, 10:37 PM
well if its just 1 less port per chamber then id say its tuned lower probably

tommyk90
01-10-2007, 10:47 PM
well if its just 1 less port per chamber then id say its tuned lower probably

He always had 2 plugs ported on the old 8 port box, so the tuning will be the same. :)

Wkbdkid
01-10-2007, 11:02 PM
Nicely done. When can we expect some vids:naughty:

tommyk90
01-10-2007, 11:08 PM
Nicely done. When can we expect some vids:naughty:

When the box gets finished in 2 months. :laugh:

Orion Man
01-10-2007, 11:10 PM
Just a question, but I thought MDF was the best wood to use for enclosures? Is that false?

Not trying to hijack your thread, enclosure looks really nice!

Wkbdkid
01-10-2007, 11:11 PM
When the box gets finished in 2 months. :laugh:
2 months:eek: :eyebrow:

t0ny
01-10-2007, 11:12 PM
Just a question, but I thought MDF was the best wood to use for enclosures? Is that false?

MDF is the best money to performance ratio. Thats why its so widely used.

tommyk90
01-10-2007, 11:12 PM
Just a question, but I thought MDF was the best wood to use for enclosures? Is that false?

Not trying to hijack your thread, enclosure looks really nice!

MDF has the best cost/performance ratio out there, IMO.

The wood we used for this box is just as strong as MDF and half the weight. It's downfall is that it costs twice as much as MDF.

t0ny
01-10-2007, 11:14 PM
MDF has the best cost/performance ratio out there, IMO.

The wood we used for this box is just as strong as MDF and half the weight. It's downfall is that it costs twice as much as MDF.



beatcha :naughty:

tommyk90
01-10-2007, 11:26 PM
beatcha :naughty:

dammit.


2 months:eek: :eyebrow:

Joe's a slow builder. :laugh:

Hopefully it'll be done by this weekend.

TypeRBass
01-13-2007, 07:48 PM
errr fast foward:
stained and 1 coat of poly on it, need a few more coats of it...
and inside is bedlinered:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00026.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00028.jpg

baseballer1100
01-13-2007, 07:50 PM
**** i was just talking about doing this with my box what kind of paint is that?

TypeRBass
01-13-2007, 07:50 PM
**** i was just talking about doing this with my box what kind of paint is that?

what paint? i used no paint?
i used wood stain? and polyurethane..?

baseballer1100
01-13-2007, 07:53 PM
Really? how did you get the blue?

TypeRBass
01-13-2007, 07:55 PM
Really? how did you get the blue?



what paint? i used no paint?
i used wood stain? and polyurethane..?

reeeeeeead

baseballer1100
01-13-2007, 07:57 PM
O lol. my bad

Lil_KB
01-14-2007, 04:01 AM
****.

krouchchocolate
01-14-2007, 01:27 PM
how much does that sheet of wood weigh compared to mdf?

saywhat?
01-14-2007, 01:30 PM
umm...read? he said half the weight.


anyways, it looks good but will the bedliner not impede airflow being its a bumpy surface?

CJ8501
01-14-2007, 01:43 PM
That thing looks beastly. Nice work! Very Clean indeed. Also, I didnt realize your from Tinley. Im right next to you in Orland. Im running a Single 3510 and I must say, I love DD.

TypeRBass
01-14-2007, 01:56 PM
umm...read? he said half the weight.


anyways, it looks good but will the bedliner not impede airflow being its a bumpy surface?

naaah i didnt use the herculiner stuff, i used something else. it comes out smooth on the inside. a lot easier to work with vs resin...and from my testing there was 0 db difference on the meter with bedliner vs resin.

ngsm13
01-14-2007, 02:45 PM
Good one.

nG

TypeRBass
01-14-2007, 03:10 PM
jus threw another coat of polyurethane on it, and it is infact looking sweet as hell..i'll throw another coat on later tonight after my works xmas party (yeah its past xmas, dont ask)

Lckmyblls
01-14-2007, 03:12 PM
nice...

baseballer1100
01-14-2007, 03:20 PM
Sweet cant wait to see it.

TypeRBass
01-17-2007, 07:11 PM
more peectures...
here is the box before the final layer of polyurethane, lookin pretty spiffy and shiny if ya ask me:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00039.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00041-1.jpg

Immacomputer
01-17-2007, 07:51 PM
I love the look and feel of polyurethane. The blue stain isn't doing much for me though.

What are you using to apply the polyurethane? Can you get some more really close shots at some point?

15nissen
01-17-2007, 08:24 PM
ahhh it matches your car, and your eyes:naughty:

TypeRBass
01-17-2007, 08:29 PM
I love the look and feel of polyurethane. The blue stain isn't doing much for me though.

What are you using to apply the polyurethane? Can you get some more really close shots at some point?
eh the blue matches my car color pretty close, and i didn't want to do the traditional just wood colored stain. i'll get some close ups tomorrow after this coat dries.


ahhh it matches your car, and your eyes:naughty:
my eyes? my eyes are brown...:uhoh: :uhoh:

Immacomputer
01-17-2007, 08:40 PM
eh the blue matches my car color pretty close, and i didn't want to do the traditional just wood colored stain. i'll get some close ups tomorrow after this coat dries.


my eyes? my eyes are brown...:uhoh: :uhoh:

I thought you had a black expedition or something... If it matches, that's cool, I just prefer darker stains but hey, it isn't my box. The stain looks pretty even and nice though. Your polyurethane job seems to have less rough spots than mine but it could very well be the pictures. Did you use a spray-on polyurethane?

TypeRBass
01-17-2007, 08:45 PM
Your polyurethane job seems to have less rough spots than mine but it could very well be the pictures. Did you use a spray-on polyurethane?

theres a few spots on it that are eh but for the most part its good enough for me.
and i brushed it on with a foam brush.

Immacomputer
01-17-2007, 08:50 PM
I was going to try a foam brush but used a bristle brush instead. I kept getting these little bumps that were like pieces of sand in the polyurethane. I don't know if it was dust from the brush or the air or what... I cleaned the enclosure before each coat and I would still get them.

This picture kind of shows what I'm talking about:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1821/img0317eq1.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0317eq1.jpg)

I'm they will smooth out over time like my last enclosure did but it needs to hurry up and happen.

Oh and apparently a pubic hair laned on the enclosure while it was drying... -_-

Kagymp5
01-17-2007, 08:58 PM
yea those are from the bristles

rpfuror
01-17-2007, 09:19 PM
^^ Yeap, you can use fine grit sand paper to get rid of them. What brushes are you using? I have used the staining sponges and they don't leave those air pockets due to no bristles.

Immacomputer
01-17-2007, 09:24 PM
They're not air bubbles; they're tiny niblets of like dust or sand. I removed as many as I could with my gloved finger. It felt like little grains of sand.

I used some $10 2" wide brush that had really soft bristles at the beginning but slowly got kind of frayed.

The air bubbles I was able to remove before it dried and I did that by slowly moving the brush from side to side with it barely touching the surface. When I would do this, it would roll the little grits around... really frustrating.

Abel
01-17-2007, 10:36 PM
They're not air bubbles; they're tiny niblets of like dust or sand. I removed as many as I could with my gloved finger. It felt like little grains of sand.

I used some $10 2" wide brush that had really soft bristles at the beginning but slowly got kind of frayed.

The air bubbles I was able to remove before it dried and I did that by slowly moving the brush from side to side with it barely touching the surface. When I would do this, it would roll the little grits around... really frustrating.

You need to do multiple coats of poly, and between each coat sand with 220 grit paper, then clean with a rag and paint thinner. The rag with thinner on it will act like a magnet and take off any dust from the wood, leaving you with a smooth finish.

Also the final coat on TypeRbass's box was done with a comercial grade poly. used for coating wood floors. Much thicker then minwax products.

Immacomputer
01-17-2007, 10:59 PM
You need to do multiple coats of poly, and between each coat sand with 220 grit paper, then clean with a rag and paint thinner. The rag with thinner on it will act like a magnet and take off any dust from the wood, leaving you with a smooth finish.

That's exactly what I did between each coat (about 8 total; 3/4 of the medium sized can on a 2.2 cube enclosure). There was no dust on the wood when I put it on; I'm guessing it either came from the can or from the brush bristles. Next time I'll use a foam brush and see if it happens again. It also doesn't help that my garage is dirty as hell and mad dusty.

Abel
01-17-2007, 11:05 PM
That's exactly what I did between each coat (about 8 total; 3/4 of the medium sized can on a 2.2 cube enclosure). There was no dust on the wood when I put it on; I'm guessing it either came from the can or from the brush bristles. Next time I'll use a foam brush and see if it happens again. It also doesn't help that my garage is dirty as hell and mad dusty.

Ya dont use the spray can stuff it *****. Best thing to do is either brush it on or use a roller with 1/4 inch nap. but if you use a roller clean it with paint thinner first to get any loose fuzz off it.

Immacomputer
01-17-2007, 11:23 PM
No, I meant the can like this:
http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/product/263244_front200.jpg

I used about 3/4 of the medium sized one. The brush was some $10 long haired 2" wide brush from lowes. I'll try a roller or foam brush next time though.

TypeRBass
01-20-2007, 08:34 PM
ok its done, in the car, and booming, and its been tested.

new on top of the old
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00043600x450.jpg

ports internal view
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00044600x450.jpg

me workin i guess
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00045600x450.jpg

****in sub holes...
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00046600x450.jpg

straddling the box
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00047600x450.jpg

in the car
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00048600x450.jpg

view from the front of the car
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/TypeRBass/DSC00049600x450.jpg

duece212
01-20-2007, 08:40 PM
Looks good man. You get results to compare to the old yet?

fawd06
01-20-2007, 08:41 PM
nice box cant wait to see some number and vids!!!

mazdakid
01-20-2007, 08:46 PM
too bad you gotta have the ports out of the box, it looks like a rocket or somethin

tommyk90
01-20-2007, 08:50 PM
too bad you gotta have the ports out of the box, it looks like a rocket or somethin

External ports=loud. :)

Belunt
01-20-2007, 08:53 PM
External ports=loud. :)
X2 I can't wait to hear this.

And quit smokin Joe.

Belunt
01-20-2007, 08:57 PM
If you quit smoking for a month, I'll set you up on a date with a cutey. And by date I mean you watching through an open closet door at my house while I work my magic.

15nissen
01-20-2007, 08:58 PM
thats looking sick joe, now give me some #'s:eek: :eek:

MTXman
01-20-2007, 09:00 PM
dam.n that looks nice man.. loud as fck I bet.:crazy:

TypeRBass
01-20-2007, 09:02 PM
If you quit smoking for a month, I'll set you up on a date with a cutey. And by date I mean you watching through an open closet door at my house while I work my magic.

ahaha you sicko


thats looking sick joe, now give me some #'s:eek: :eek:

well since you asked...
155.1 @ 35 on the dash
154.9 @ 35 @ the head

scores matched the old ones...
BUT i say BUT...i did this testing after wangin on it for a while and on some uncharged *** batteries. so it'll gain a lil bit from those scores.

and my headrest note dropped 5hz too :)
so tis loud still. and sexier lookin than the old box.

80INCHES
01-20-2007, 10:03 PM
nice box and awsome numbers

80

NoLimit
01-20-2007, 10:35 PM
vids :D

mazdakid
01-20-2007, 11:51 PM
External ports=loud. :)

i know why its done, just ***** that it has to be like that

grassroots
01-20-2007, 11:58 PM
looks great, are you going to re-paint your ports to match the new box?

req
01-21-2007, 12:05 AM
lookin good guys!

i wish i could have been there to, well, not help. because im lazy. but drink beers and **** off. lol.

i got to scope out the old box. wich was pretty sweet. too bad they had to move my *** to vaginia beach. oh. well. summer time = teh **** ladies on the beach. so i cant complain too much :naughty:

i like that picture of you stradling that somva*****. ;)

Steven206Seattl
01-21-2007, 01:51 AM
wont plywood make it sound a little weird

alexacura1
01-21-2007, 01:55 AM
arnt u suppose to use particle bord???

NoLimit
01-21-2007, 02:06 AM
arnt u suppose to use particle bord???

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

alexacura1
01-21-2007, 02:29 AM
ok what is the wood u are using?

bigwheel15
01-21-2007, 02:34 AM
wont plywood make it sound a little weird


Yeah...thats not plywood.

Steven206Seattl
01-21-2007, 02:36 AM
Yeah...thats not plywood.

what is it

bigwheel15
01-21-2007, 02:39 AM
what is it


2) this box is made out of birch to save some weight

:)

Steven206Seattl
01-21-2007, 02:40 AM
oh sorry just saw the pics and jumped to conclusions

alexacura1
01-21-2007, 02:43 AM
my bad

coolahan
01-21-2007, 04:32 AM
its birch

Immacomputer
01-21-2007, 11:26 AM
Umm... birch is a plywood.

Lakota
01-21-2007, 10:20 PM
Ever had any gains off of rounding the corners inside the box?

Spac3d
01-22-2007, 10:28 PM
Looks good. Did you glass the inside of the box?

tommyk90
01-22-2007, 10:45 PM
Looks good. Did you glass the inside of the box?

bedliner.