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helotaxi
01-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Had the subs sitting around in their shipping box since March of last year. Finally around Christmas I decided to get them installed.

Here's the basic box layout. All the joints are done with biscuits and glue. No screws other than those holding the subs in.

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For those of you not familiar, this is a biscuit. You use a special tool to cut a pocket in both pieces of wood to be joined and insert the biscuit into the pockets. It ensures that the joint stays lined up as you clamp it and while the glue sets.

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Clamps.

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Glue.

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Here it is in the trunk with the amp that it juicing the pair. They do better for output than my XXX12 did on a 250HCCA in a max flat box. Pretty darn accurate, too. Would sound better if I had a crossover on the sub amp (long story and one that I'm not happy about, but I have a new crossover for the next install that will be starting here in a week or two.).

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The amps running the front stage. One amp is bridged to each front midbass and the 3rd runs in stereo to the tweets. I have a variable crossover module in the tweet amp which feeds the low-pass signal to the other two amps. The midbass amps' gains are bypassed so the tweet amp gain controls the whole front stage gain. They are actually matched out quite well with a 4:1 power ratio.

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Yes, those are 2 1 Farad caps and, yes I can easily overwhelm them by turning it up. If anyone thinks that caps work, here's your proof they don't (and I knew this coming in. There's a battery going in for the next install.). The car has a 165A alt that is totally hobbled by the ECU which controls the voltage regulator. Reaction time is on the order of 8 sec to a voltage drop. The wiring looks messy, but it's actually well organized and secure. Just didn't have a lot of room to work with.

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How wire should be secured.

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Like I said this is a temp setup just to have something in the car. The next go will be OS PG amps and 4 AA 8s. Stay tuned.

almond
01-08-2007, 12:33 PM
looks good to me. keep up the good work!!

LeofromtheH
01-08-2007, 12:37 PM
looks cool. personally have never seen the biscuit thing done before

jmanpc
01-08-2007, 12:38 PM
biscuits :yumyum:

gravy anyone?



lookin good!

PowerNaudio
01-08-2007, 12:41 PM
love the amps. specially that series of orion, i have a dead 225HCCA sitting in my garage. maybe ill get it fixed. that 2100 is just sick. like the box and subs too. good build and install.
keep it up.

djman37
01-08-2007, 12:43 PM
dang spiffy man. I'd like to get something like that for daily.

QtrHorse
01-08-2007, 01:05 PM
What are the dimensions of that box (around 20x30x10) and what is it tuned to? Nice looking ugly temp box. Better than a lot of the supposedly good ones out there.

CBFryman2
01-08-2007, 01:09 PM
I've always wanted to build an enclosure with biscuts but I've never had the chance. Once I become more proficent with my router I'm going for a dove tail enclosure. :woot:

looks nice man.

JohnBlayz142
01-08-2007, 01:14 PM
Looks awesome, wish I had that kind of equipment to work with. Don't you feel screws would have been easier and made no difference overall?

acreature
01-08-2007, 01:57 PM
What's the tuning of that box?

I am fixin' to build for 2 Assassins, but was going to use the 40hz tuning they recommend.

And, is that Birch?

acold7dusta
01-08-2007, 02:04 PM
not bad, what do you use to cut the groove for the biscuit? also what car is this in?

CBFryman2
01-08-2007, 02:04 PM
Looks awesome, wish I had that kind of equipment to work with. Don't you feel screws would have been easier and made no difference overall?

Clamps and biscuts make for a better finish. No screw holes or heads to fill. It is used in cabinetry so the wood can be stained and not have ugly off color dots that dont flow with the grain. In car audio it makes no difference in most cases but it always something neat to try new things.

CBFryman2
01-08-2007, 02:05 PM
not bad, what do you use to cut the groove for the biscuit? also what car is this in?

A biscut cutter. Sort of like a plunge router with a tool to line up and center the cut and a blade instead of a bit. Check them out next time you are at Home Depot or Lowes.:)

Curel
01-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Very nice. Love your gear.

Thieroff
01-08-2007, 02:15 PM
Looks very cool man



CT

nismos14
01-08-2007, 02:16 PM
Very very nice, they must sound pretty good ported :)

acold7dusta
01-08-2007, 02:28 PM
A biscut cutter. Sort of like a plunge router with a tool to line up and center the cut and a blade instead of a bit. Check them out next time you are at Home Depot or Lowes.:)

will do:)

JohnBlayz142
01-08-2007, 03:52 PM
Clamps and biscuts make for a better finish. No screw holes or heads to fill. It is used in cabinetry so the wood can be stained and not have ugly off color dots that dont flow with the grain. In car audio it makes no difference in most cases but it always something neat to try new things.
Yeah I understand that, I've never painted/stained an enclosure so I can see now how that could come in handy....Norm Abram is the biscuit king :D

Again, good job on the box I like it a lot.

Paul73
01-08-2007, 06:46 PM
Outstanding job on the box :bowdown: I have thought about doing that myself a few times but just haven't yet... I love those amps :2thumbs: Now that you have done all of the nice work on the build, are you gonna finish it in someway to show it off?

helotaxi
01-08-2007, 07:53 PM
Like I said, it's just a temp setup. The more permanant one will involve a flase floor for different amps and a ported box for 4 of the Assassins. Subs firing rear, ports firing up.

The box is .6 cf per driver tuned to 38-39 hz. Ports are 8.5x 1.5" by stupid long. Overall dims of the box are 10x14.5x33.75

nismos14
01-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Would you be willing to sell that box when you build the new one?

helotaxi
01-08-2007, 09:55 PM
Sure.

There are some screw holes in it but for the most part they don't show and I don't think any go all the way through into the interior of the box. It's nice and light so shipping shouldn't be that bad either.

nismos14
01-08-2007, 10:21 PM
Cool, let me know when the time comes :) and price.

PV Audio
01-08-2007, 11:12 PM
I've been wanting to buy a biscuit joiner for speakers, but never have. Much stronger joint. :)