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bikinpunk
01-06-2007, 10:11 PM
Went into Tweeter tonight just 'dream shopping' for TVs. My fiance and I plan on buying next year about this time, but we like to go looking every couple months. We came across a floor-model Sony Qualia 70" rear-projection tv today and I about shat a brick at the price. MSRP is $13k. They had it on sale for $6000.
http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1001017&navigationPath=32050n45260

They also had a Pioneer Elite 61" origianally $15000, floor-model sale for $6000.
Pioneer (http://www.tweeter.com/sm-pioneer-pro1410hd-elite-61-and-034-purevision-plasma-monitor--pi-1872823.html)

God, I wish I had the money to buy a tv now. Guess I know what time of the year to look when it's time to buy.

boomintahoe
01-06-2007, 10:14 PM
You don't need 6k for a tv....I paid a grand for my 53" and very happy with it.

phyphoestilic
01-06-2007, 10:16 PM
ya I mean i understand it's 70" cuse I would never pay that kinda money. even if it is like 60% off MSRP

bikinpunk
01-06-2007, 10:16 PM
You don't need 6k for a tv....I paid a grand for my 53" and very happy with it.

I truly don't mean to offend but I doubt your tv can touch either of those.

RedlineAccord
01-06-2007, 10:16 PM
I was actually doing a little of my own "dream shopping" at Best Buy today and its amazing how the prices have dropped on the plasma TV's. I remember when a 50-60" plasma was going for upwards of $15,000 a few years ago. Now you could get one for about 3 grand. Still a lot of money, but from 15k to 3k is a biiiiig difference.

tex512
01-06-2007, 10:20 PM
rear projection tvs are trash. Why spend all that money when they have hi def tvs that are the projectors that can put out a screen up to 100" all under 1200

Randy Savage
01-06-2007, 10:22 PM
rear projection tvs are trash. Why spend all that money when they have hi def tvs that are the projectors that can put out a screen up to 100" all under 1200

Not everyone can use a projector.

Douche.

heyman421
01-06-2007, 10:22 PM
rear projection tvs are trash. Why spend all that money when they have hi def tvs that are the projectors that can put out a screen up to 100" all under 1200

you can't get a projector capable of hdtv resolution and a 100" screen for $1200, trust me

and take a peek at the contrast ratio of a front vs. rear projection tv

or the cost of a 100" screen, while you're at it

boomintahoe
01-06-2007, 10:23 PM
I truly don't mean to offend but I doubt your tv can touch either of those.

No you're prob right. I've walked thru BB and CC and other audio places that have DLP's and Plasma TV's on display and blows away mine. BUT.....you get what you can afford. and that's what I did. Instead of putting it on a credit card and payin it off in 3 yrs or so....just plain stupid IMO..

bikinpunk
01-06-2007, 10:24 PM
you can't get a projector capable of hdtv resolution and a 100" screen for $1200, trust me

and take a peek at the contrast ratio of a front vs. rear projection tv

or the cost of a 100" screen, while you're at it

x2. I've looked.

boomintahoe
01-06-2007, 10:26 PM
rear projection tvs are trash. Why spend all that money when they have hi def tvs that are the projectors that can put out a screen up to 100" all under 1200

You seem to live in a very large house that can accomadate that. Not a lot of us have a lot of room for something like that. Oh and btw, my tv is rear projection.....nothin' wrong with rear projection at all. I think you just brought yourself a flame war my uneducated friend.

bikinpunk
01-06-2007, 10:26 PM
No you're prob right. I've walked thru BB and CC and other audio places that have DLP's and Plasma TV's on display and blows away mine. BUT.....you get what you can afford. and that's what I did. Instead of putting it on a credit card and payin it off in 3 yrs or so....just plain stupid IMO..

I agree. We both are saving $50 each check to go tward a tv. Plus our tax money. That should be close to $4000 to pay for a tv in cold hard cash. :)

tex512
01-06-2007, 10:31 PM
You seem to live in a very large house that can accomadate that. Not a lot of us have a lot of room for something like that. Oh and btw, my tv is rear projection.....nothin' wrong with rear projection at all. I think you just brought yourself a flame war my uneducated friend.

I'm not saying theres anything wrong with with rear projection tvs but compared to todays tvs why would you spend 6k on one?? You can find a great plasma tv for 6 grand. And if you have room for a 70" tv I'm sure you have a lot of room to work with. And I'm not sure on prices and how big they get but they make some good size screens with great resolution at the fraction of the cost of tvs.

heyman421
01-06-2007, 10:33 PM
I've got a 1989 27" sony trinitron, so don't personally have any stake in this discussion, but for the $, the dlp's are pretty hard to beat as far as quality goes.

ant1024
01-06-2007, 10:34 PM
Well since you are saving the money anyway now.... CC has 24 months no interest on tvs next week so you can get the tv and make the payments on it with no interest. Some good deals as well.

I agree. We both are saving $50 each check to go tward a tv. Plus our tax money. That should be close to $4000 to pay for a tv in cold hard cash. :)

heyman421
01-06-2007, 10:35 PM
i'd be asking a hell of a lot of questions before i agreed to any kind of in-store financing

pitbull12888
01-06-2007, 10:36 PM
if you pay $7000 for a tv ill throw in a free kick in the nutz. :fyi:

tex512
01-06-2007, 10:38 PM
if you pay $7000 for a tv ill throw in a free kick in the nutz. :fyi:

x2. Some people are throwing out ridiculous amounts of money for tv's these days. Personaly don't watch enough tv to spend that kind of money on one.

heyman421
01-06-2007, 10:42 PM
i turned my cable off

when something worth watching hits the airwaves, i'll consider a new tv

all i watch anymore is movies, and it's easier to just watch them on my computer

MikeofTulsa
01-06-2007, 10:53 PM
buddy of mine is about to upgrade to a 61" samsung dlp, he's gonna give me his 51"

Johnny Drama
01-06-2007, 11:09 PM
I want to get this one or the biggest Samsung they make...

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200658+502451&Ne=502443&product_code=339875&Pn=MicroDisplay_WD_73732_73_inch_1080p_DLP_HDTV

LeofromtheH
01-06-2007, 11:18 PM
i was drooling over tv's the other day at best buy. i was watching some watchmaker put together a handmade watch on some 61" flatscreen, and holy ****, i could see the hair on his hands, the etching on the metal components, everything! plus it was a bleu ray disk. man technology these days is outrageous. only if i had the money :crying:

but like someone else said, i couldn't see myself spending 6k on a tv. 3k or under is somehwat reasonable, but not neccessarily at this point in time for my situation. but if you got the money, whynot? right on brother, go get you a ******* tv. :thumbsup:

pitbull12888
01-06-2007, 11:21 PM
they have a all stainless steel refrigrator at best buy that has a 13" tv in one of the doors :D i want it

springy101
01-06-2007, 11:25 PM
rear projection tvs are trash. Why spend all that money when they have hi def tvs that are the projectors that can put out a screen up to 100" all under 1200actually most people agree that rear projection tv's have the best high def picture not to mention viewing angles

springy101
01-06-2007, 11:26 PM
they have a all stainless steel refrigrator at best buy that has a 13" tv in one of the doors :D i want it

i say that the other day, so baller


baaaaaaaaaaaallliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnn'

heyman421
01-06-2007, 11:27 PM
just give me one of these, and i'll be happy

http://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0106/04/102PDPTV.jpg

pitbull12888
01-06-2007, 11:28 PM
i say that the other day, so baller


baaaaaaaaaaaallliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnn'

hell yea.. im def. gettin one for my house after i move out LOL

LeofromtheH
01-06-2007, 11:29 PM
they have a all stainless steel refrigrator at best buy that has a 13" tv in one of the doors :D i want it

that's just retarded. it better come with **** and cooking recipes preloaded


just give me one of these, and i'll be happy

http://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0106/04/102PDPTV.jpg

and the two hoes too

pitbull12888
01-06-2007, 11:30 PM
that's just retarded. it better come with **** and cooking recipes preloaded



and the two hoes too

umm ok , so its any diff. than people having a reg. tv in there kitchen to watch while eating breakfast?


ur retarded :p:

heyman421
01-06-2007, 11:32 PM
what do you have time to watch while eating breakfast?

it's food, it doesn't require foreplay

pitbull12888
01-06-2007, 11:34 PM
what do you have time to watch while eating breakfast?

it's food, it doesn't require foreplay

just because it doesnt require foreplay doesnt mean u shouldnt blow a load watchin barney anyway :naughty: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:





















JK

LeofromtheH
01-06-2007, 11:37 PM
i've never had the urge to watch tv while eating breakfast. i usually just read the back of the cereal box or nutrition facts or the paper.

it's like those washing machines that have tv's in them, why the fuuck would you wana watch tv while putting clothes in the watcher?
reminds me of that one comercial where the dude has tv's everywhere he goes.

pitbull12888
01-06-2007, 11:43 PM
i have a tv in every cabinet :fyi:

bigbangtheory
01-07-2007, 09:00 AM
I spent 32000 bucks on my tv, but with the warranty I got I am close to 4500, lol!

This is just one of the many tvs I have, but my favorite. :)

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDL40XBR3&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=hid_tv_newbravia

Rmsanger
01-07-2007, 09:32 AM
I spent 32000 bucks on my tv, but with the warranty I got I am close to 4500, lol!

This is just one of the many tvs I have, but my favorite. :)

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDL40XBR3&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=hid_tv_newbravia


Yeah that Sony is a sweet TV...

My family just recently bought two TVs before the holidays:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7803148&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050005&id=1142293092636

Does not play 1080P :crap: but excellent display of Non-HD material and just as good as 90% of the other displays for HD programs. Blue-Ray is sick on this tv MI3 FTW!

Got it on sale for around ~ $2600

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7854789&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050005&id=1142299476010

Slightly better quality display but 5 inches smaller than the Hitatchi. Perfect for HD material.

Price ~ 2700 - 2800...

If you pay 6-7k for a TV you're nuts since you can buy both of these TVs and still pay your cable bill with the money leftover.

If you don't have the money then no way should a 7k tv be your priority. Fund an IRA or 401K for the year first.

bigbangtheory
01-07-2007, 10:21 AM
Yeah that Sony is a sweet TV...

My family just recently bought two TVs before the holidays:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7803148&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050005&id=1142293092636

Does not play 1080P :crap: but excellent display of Non-HD material and just as good as 90% of the other displays for HD programs. Blue-Ray is sick on this tv MI3 FTW!

Got it on sale for around ~ $2600

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7854789&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050005&id=1142299476010

Slightly better quality display but 5 inches smaller than the Hitatchi. Perfect for HD material.

Price ~ 2700 - 2800...

If you pay 6-7k for a TV you're nuts since you can buy both of these TVs and still pay your cable bill with the money leftover.

If you don't have the money then no way should a 7k tv be your priority. Fund an IRA or 401K for the year first.

Ahaha, I put 32000 up there.:eyebrow: I ment 3200, lol!

Anyway, I love my Sony man, nothing I would trade it for but maybe a Pioneer Elite 52" being how I moved and seem like the 40 I have is now to small. Still is amazing! The HD channels on it are purely orgasmic and when I am watching a football game, I swear I am right in the middle of it.:veryhapp:

Those two tvs you have a very nice as well. I only have 1080 because of the xbox360, which I dont seem to play as much do to me being busy as of late outside of work. But I love knowing I have it when I need it.

I have many tvs from 1 13" Toshiba LCD Flant panel, 1 27" Toshiba CRT in our bedroom, 1 32"CRT Toshiba in the garage for watching movies and **** when I am in the garage to the 40" Sony in the Living room. I also have all Sony and JBL home theater system that gets the job done. I love watching movies!!!

Colin+M
01-07-2007, 03:35 PM
1. Viewing angles on Rear projection tv's are not as good as plasma/lcd. Not even close. Although the rear projection tvs do have excellent contrast ratios and black levels. A little ahead of the flat panels.

2. Its Blu-ray.

elementxero
01-07-2007, 07:34 PM
The people that are the most willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a television are the people that are so completely afriad of life that they insist on catching every episode of every worthless broadcast that they shove onto the airwaves.

:fyi: 99% of television is trash. :fyi:

That said, if I made 150k+ a year I would have a massive HD or two in my house, but then and only then does it seem worth it. There is like a big push lately to bring super expensive and obviously unnecesary technologies to the middle class who can barely afford them.

People need to stop and ask, "Why do I want this?" every once in a while, and that includes myself and probably all of you given our high-cost audio hobby.

boomintahoe
01-07-2007, 09:52 PM
Spending 1000's on a single item, a TV in this case, is ridiculous. But we all know what we want and costs a lotta dough. Instead, take the 6 grand and buy a friggin house.

heyman421
01-07-2007, 09:55 PM
People with a LITTLE money are ALWAYS the target consumers.

People with a LOT of money are smart enough to save, or otherwise smart enough to accumulate so much wealth.

It's no secret that it's white trash and ******s with a little extra cash from their bonus or tax return that buy all the stupid **** that they can't afford. Where do they advertise all the outrageously expensive tv's? Football, and basketball, right after the beer, GM super-duper financing, and pizza commercials. It's nothing new.

boomintahoe
01-07-2007, 09:59 PM
The people that are the most willing to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a television are the people that are so completely afriad of life that they insist on catching every episode of every worthless broadcast that they shove onto the airwaves.

:fyi: 99% of television is trash. :fyi:

That said, if I made 150k+ a year I would have a massive HD or two in my house, but then and only then does it seem worth it. There is like a big push lately to bring super expensive and obviously unnecesary technologies to the middle class who can barely afford them.

People need to stop and ask, "Why do I want this?" every once in a while, and that includes myself and probably all of you given our high-cost audio hobby.

That's one's opinion. There's a lot more educational programming on nowadays than there was say 10 yrs ago. I'd have to disagree on that one. Guess what? TV is the most thing families do wheather during dinnertime or saturday morning cartoons. Advertising is also done on TV. So buying a big screen TV means that people are afraid in life?? WTF are you talkin about??? It's a TV!!! Made for entertainment....just as car audio is.....watching movies. I think you escaped the mental hospital again didn't you?

TribeX85
01-07-2007, 10:07 PM
I want to get this one or the biggest Samsung they make...

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200658+502451&Ne=502443&product_code=339875&Pn=MicroDisplay_WD_73732_73_inch_1080p_DLP_HDTV

yeah thats a good one, I want the Samsung also.

thylantyr
01-08-2007, 12:14 AM
Make a 100" Screen for under $100
http://www.projectorcentral.com/diy_screen.htm

Spend $1k, maybe $2k on a 1280x720 DLP projector.

Or wait until HDTV projector comes down to $2500 in a year or two.

elementxero
01-08-2007, 12:49 PM
That's one's opinion. There's a lot more educational programming on nowadays than there was say 10 yrs ago. I'd have to disagree on that one. Guess what? TV is the most thing families do wheather during dinnertime or saturday morning cartoons. Advertising is also done on TV. So buying a big screen TV means that people are afraid in life?? WTF are you talkin about??? It's a TV!!! Made for entertainment....just as car audio is.....watching movies. I think you escaped the mental hospital again didn't you?

Exactly. It's made for entertainment. Entertainment is escapism. :fyi: , and I'm just as much a victim of it as anyone. Victim probably isn't the right word, since it is by my own choice/weakness that I choose to indulge.

Most of a persons disposable income is put towards entertainment products and devices. We work to earn money to distract ourselves from the passionless life we created by spending it all working. It's a cycle of nonsense that ends up sucking the passion out of most people and it leaks out through absurd quasi personally productive crap like a car audio hobby. We take our distraction and make it our own to feel more in control of it and empowered by it.

So yes, it's "just a tv", but by making it normal to spend a large portion of your disposable income on a dominant piece of distractionary entertainment, its deepening the rut of the middle class. Spend your life working so you can buy crap you don't need that simultaneously ends up sucking up your free time with BS that does little to nothing to further your satisfaction with life.

But yeah, don't consider my point of view, feel free to write me off as a kook. But I think you see what I'm talking about whether you like it or not.

Scoobydoo
01-08-2007, 05:09 PM
If you can only afford to save $50 per paycheck, buying a $6k tv isn't the best use of your money. IMO you should be looking for something in the $1-2k range

I dont think you should spend more than 6 times your disposable income on a tv that will depreciate dramatically once it leaves the store.

A 40" TV that cost $4000 today and a 40" tv that cost $1500 today will be worth about the same in 10 years, which is about $0

At 6 times it would take 6 months to pay it off.

$250 a month= $1500 tv
$500 a month= $3000 tv
$1000 a month= $6000 tv
etc

boomintahoe
01-09-2007, 11:29 PM
Exactly. It's made for entertainment. Entertainment is escapism. :fyi: , and I'm just as much a victim of it as anyone. Victim probably isn't the right word, since it is by my own choice/weakness that I choose to indulge.

Most of a persons disposable income is put towards entertainment products and devices. We work to earn money to distract ourselves from the passionless life we created by spending it all working. It's a cycle of nonsense that ends up sucking the passion out of most people and it leaks out through absurd quasi personally productive crap like a car audio hobby. We take our distraction and make it our own to feel more in control of it and empowered by it.

So yes, it's "just a tv", but by making it normal to spend a large portion of your disposable income on a dominant piece of distractionary entertainment, its deepening the rut of the middle class. Spend your life working so you can buy crap you don't need that simultaneously ends up sucking up your free time with BS that does little to nothing to further your satisfaction with life.

But yeah, don't consider my point of view, feel free to write me off as a kook. But I think you see what I'm talking about whether you like it or not.

You remind me of that guy that does those Visine commericals....for red eyes, blah blah blah. Really nonsense what your tellin me....and could careless otherwise. There's tons more stuff to one's avail than just entertainment, TV in this case, in this US of A. I happen to have 2 kids and work 2 f/t jobs in order to support my family. Don't forget to mention that car audio is not a necessity in one's life, and isn't required. Boy, I must sound like your mother by now....why do you need such a big spkr in your car?? Why is it so loud and why do you like it loud?! We buy these things because we want them...not because it's not needed and can save our money. Retail is the largest market consumers buy....wheather its soap for the bathroom or a new computer desk. Look at cellphones: another example, which you failed to bring up, esp the music we can play from them and low and behold.....now there's even GPS built into them. BUT...for the most part of cell phones could lead into many directions depending upon the user. Wheather your stranded on a highway someplace with a flat tire callin up your buddy or wife to come rescue you or txt messaging your freinds during your break hour at work. All these electronics and gadgets we have today are very useful. Just imagine if Bill Gates hadn't built the computer back then. It literally changed our lives.

You insist on a TV ***** up life out of a person. I disagree, again. Sorry to burst your bubble, but to me watching my favorite programs on tv after a 12hr shift at work and to relax on the couch....now that's chillin'. IF a person chooses to live life on TV alone and nowhere to go in his/her life, then yes I'd agree with you...aka a couch potato. However, I have many responsibilies than just keepin the cable bill paid.

I think you need to visit a forum that invloves a world with no tv, car audio, no electronics because what you typed above....you seem rather disturbed and lonely.

elementxero
01-10-2007, 12:04 AM
You barely read what I wrote if that is your response (and who could blame you with the short attention span necessary for absorbing hours of pointless entertainment) and I won't engage you in a psuedo debate on something that you don't care to think about, but I'll throw my two cents back at you for the hell of it.

Working a 12 hr day only to be so tired that you sit and watch TV until you fall asleep sounds unsatisfying to me. Like I said, I'm not above this crap, I do it too. After a long day of work sometimes the most appealing thing is to, as you said, just 'chill'. But I see the flaw in the lifestyle. I work twice as hard with twice as much stress to afford things that are completely unnecessary like a premium car audio setup or a widescreen monitor.

In the end, our time is our most valuable possession. I can use that time to earn money to amass material things (and yes, these things are entertaining and useful to an extent of course), or I can use that time to live a more free life. Perhaps what I want out of life is simply different than what you want, and in that event you will never see the same 'big picture' that I do because our goals are different.

Being so grounded that your feet are one with the streets and the dirt, being so self aware that your every flaw is radiated with pride, being so alert that your eyes are light itself, being so open that strangers talk to you with more honesty than they talk to themselves.

These are the things that will make me smile on my death bed. Living this life will be one I was glad I led.

Chances are, I won't feel the same passion for my computer or my television or my subwoofer.

I'm not a religious man, and perhaps it is from that belief that the seeds of my urgency to live such a life has been birthed.

I suppose you won't read this post either, but with this mentality as my backdrop, it would be hypocritical not to respond. If, by my previous post, you gleaned "disturbed and lonely", I feel sympathy for you, because you are already too far gone to ever understand things not only within me, but within yourself.

elementxero
01-10-2007, 12:07 AM
In retrospect, I think I can sum up my last posts with one sentence:


The art of deep thought is lost to the age of entertainment.

boomintahoe
01-10-2007, 12:13 AM
Blah blah blah blah blah. I'm done here.

elementxero
01-10-2007, 12:21 AM
That's what I thought. Go back to your nonsense and quietly da mn what you no longer have the patience to bother understanding.

elementxero
01-10-2007, 12:31 AM
Oh by the way I actually had a cameo on the Family Guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfkss4ynyk8

heyman421
01-10-2007, 01:24 PM
family guy blows

they should've just left the first 3 seasons alone

elementxero
01-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Buzz Killington FOREVER

Eugenics
01-10-2007, 04:10 PM
i would be fine with a 13inch black and white tv personally. but will be quite happy walking around with 6-15 grand more in my pocket than someone who had to have 'the best'. i plan on getting a 32inch lcd tv as the monitor for my next computer (mac mini probably).

bballrrt06
01-10-2007, 04:13 PM
sony sxrd > all television technology today (exception of lcd). LcOS is the way to go if you don't need a tv that 4" thick

boomintahoe
01-10-2007, 10:57 PM
That's what I thought. Go back to your nonsense and quietly da mn what you no longer have the patience to bother understanding.

No, I got better things to do than to argue with a 23 yr old online.

1loudsuv
01-10-2007, 11:18 PM
ive spent close to 15,000 grand in my ht setup and i dont regret it one bit :D and i am not no millionaire. i am usually always home so it gets lots of use.


to each their own.


let me add and ive spent about $1,800 on hd-dvds alone in the past 3 months since i bought the player :)