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mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 08:24 PM
Please give me some suggestions.

I know what i want:
Components in the front stage & coaxials in the rear (both 6.5 inch)
Good amplifier to push them. Im not interested in biamping the front stage and running the rears off the head unit. The best setup i ever had was 55 dollar components up front and cheapo sony coaxials in the rear off a 75X 4 sony amp. Sounded better to me than the 4 "high end" MB Quart's i have now biamped up front and off the Alpine Head Unit in the rear.

Name brand means nothing to me. I dont care about big impressive wattage numbers and fancy looks. I just want LOUD :)

I just want a 4 speaker and 1 amp setup that is obnoxiously loud.
I DONT need the speakers to have tremendous bass handling. Thats what i have the subs for.

I just want a set where the high pitched notes can get OBNOXIOUSLY LOUD and remain very clear at high volumes.

Quality is very important, i dont want to blow anything. Im working with a budget of about 800.00 - 1000.00 for the speakers and amp.

I dont want to spend that much but i want something louder than the MB Quart components 100w per channel & MB Quart 6X9's off the alpine head unit i have now. Thats all i care about.

expo5.0
01-04-2007, 08:26 PM
where's vj to recommend the supertweetahs

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 08:27 PM
where's vj to recommend the supertweetahs


R U flaming me :)

bri487
01-04-2007, 08:33 PM
two pairs of diamond D6 Components and a decent amp, look into the d6 series as well, bulletproof amps. the amp should be about 150-200 watts per channel.

Savstyle
01-04-2007, 08:35 PM
R U flaming me :)

i say goto some shops, listen to there comps see what kinda sound you like. Or if you know do you liek sound of s soft dome tweet(tends to relaxed warm sound) or a metal tweet(tends to be more detailed but often time harsh)

Thas really the biggest thing, and id recommend jus leave your back speakers alone and get a comp set and amp. Unless you allways have people riding in your beackseat. I say this because a well set up comp set up front can b more than loud enough

expo5.0
01-04-2007, 08:36 PM
no, just messing with a friend of mine.

You can run an active set-up with cd1-e id horns for that kind of money and maybe the dayton rs mids...

will be loud

-drew

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 08:36 PM
two pairs of diamond D6 Components and a decent amp, look into the d6 series as well, bulletproof amps. the amp should be about 150-200 watts per channel.


You mean these???

http://cgi.ebay.com/DIAMOND-AUDIO-D661A-6-1-2-2way-Car-Component-System-NEW_W0QQitemZ300067002522QQihZ020QQcategoryZ32819Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

bri487
01-04-2007, 08:39 PM
You mean these???

http://cgi.ebay.com/DIAMOND-AUDIO-D661A-6-1-2-2way-Car-Component-System-NEW_W0QQitemZ300067002522QQihZ020QQcategoryZ32819Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

yea, stupid loud comps. or horns are another choice, but that might kill you with 4 horns in a car.

leonsv
01-04-2007, 08:41 PM
beyma audio stuff

good quality, loud as F**k and stays clear.... pretty much what they were made to do. wont sound as good as some but if you want loud then take your pick.....

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_m154_i7_beyma-car-speakers.html

if you want great sound quality and good spl, get boston acoustics z6, the only downside to them is the amount of power needed..... to get really loud they need somewhere around 300 rms each lol

P.S. please don't say you want stuff that can be heard from blocks away or can get obnoxiously loud etc..... people on here don't like that

CBFryman2
01-04-2007, 08:47 PM
Expensive doesnt always mean loud.

You want loud?

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=294-651

4 of thoes

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=264-424

2 of thoes

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=294-425

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 08:53 PM
Thas really the biggest thing, and id recommend jus leave your back speakers alone and get a comp set and amp. Unless you allways have people riding in your beackseat. I say this because a well set up comp set up front can b more than loud enough

I really do appreciate your comments but im sure that i want to get 4 speakers and amplify them all. I think it just makes the highs seem so much louder and get that surround sound type feel.

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 08:59 PM
Expensive doesnt always mean loud.

You want loud?

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=294-651

4 of thoes

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=264-424

2 of thoes

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=294-425


Where would i put that horn in a 2002 altima?

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 09:02 PM
Any amp suggestions

Savstyle
01-04-2007, 09:13 PM
Where would i put that horn in a 2002 altima?

they go under the dash.

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 09:15 PM
beyma audio stuff

good quality, loud as F**k and stays clear.... pretty much what they were made to do. wont sound as good as some but if you want loud then take your pick.....

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_m154_i7_beyma-car-speakers.html

if you want great sound quality and good spl, get boston acoustics z6, the only downside to them is the amount of power needed..... to get really loud they need somewhere around 300 rms each lol

P.S. please don't say you want stuff that can be heard from blocks away or can get obnoxiously loud etc..... people on here don't like that


Im gonna get the Beymas i think.

Which components and coax's did you mean?
Did you mean the SCK 65's components for 229.00 & the SC 603 coaxials for 149.00? These look pretty good to me.

Also, whats a good amp for them. How much watts rms per speaker?

bri487
01-04-2007, 09:16 PM
Where would i put that horn in a 2002 altima?

in the pillar that you seatbelt is mounted to. point them towards the front seats.

*note: imaging might be off but i doubt you will be able to notice.

B_Campbell
01-04-2007, 09:28 PM
You want loud and got a big budget get horns, image dynamics horns and some nice 6.5's like some id chamelons, re xxx mids, aa polymids, dd 6.5 lt's, or maybe something made by morel or dayton. I wouldn't waste that money on rear fill as rear fill is stupid.

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 09:30 PM
You want loud and got a big budget get horns, image dynamics horns and some nice 6.5's like some id chamelons, re xxx mids, aa polymids, dd 6.5 lt's, or maybe something made by morel or dayton. I wouldn't waste that money on rear fill as rear fill is stupid.

I likes me some rear fill and i am stupid

CBFryman2
01-04-2007, 09:30 PM
Where would i put that horn in a 2002 altima?

it was a joke but in the dash. Aiming doesnt matter as you obviosly dont care about a sound stage.

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 09:31 PM
in the pillar that you seatbelt is mounted to. point them towards the front seats.

*note: imaging might be off but i doubt you will be able to notice.


or maybe just attatch them around my neck pointed up

thats sarcasm, you were joking right?

djman37
01-04-2007, 09:38 PM
why don't you amp the speakers you have first!?

scooter924
01-04-2007, 09:45 PM
Hey I have a set of Rainbow Germaniums for sale. They are brand new, never used. I bought them but now am a little short on money and they need to go. Let me know if you are interested.

expo5.0
01-04-2007, 09:49 PM
info on germaniums...?

B_Campbell
01-04-2007, 10:35 PM
I likes me some rear fill and i am stupid
obviously

pimpedout97x
01-04-2007, 10:37 PM
where's vj to recommend the supertweetahs

right here.

to the original poster. if your ghetto like me, (i notice ur in florida lol) get some Eminence alpha 6a and eminence apt80 supertweeters LOL


(seriously, i have 8 of each)

where in florida are u?


mids- 30 each
tweets = 20 each

theyre LOUD AS HELL

ghetto people think they sound good (me)

SQ people dont. different tastes for differnt peoplez

jmanpc
01-04-2007, 10:39 PM
MB Quarts would be up your alley. They are loud and the tweets can sing.

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 10:39 PM
Hey I have a set of Rainbow Germaniums for sale. They are brand new, never used. I bought them but now am a little short on money and they need to go. Let me know if you are interested.


price and specs?

jmanpc
01-04-2007, 10:41 PM
where in Fl are you?

pimpedout97x
01-04-2007, 10:43 PM
where in Fl are you?

x2

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 10:52 PM
where in Fl are you?

Broward County in between Miami and West Palm Beaatch

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 11:17 PM
why don't you amp the speakers you have first!?

i dont know, i just kind of felt like doing something new and seeing how it worked out.

T3mpest
01-04-2007, 11:26 PM
i dont know, i just kind of felt like doing something new and seeing how it worked out.

Your not even amping what you have, but they aren't loud enough so you want something new? :rotflol:

mysilver02alty
01-04-2007, 11:52 PM
Misunderstanding.

the front components are biamped. The rear stage is running of the head unit. I believe because maybe its too much power for the rear speakers. Basically the front components need like 125 or so watts each to sound good and thats too much power for the rears so i cant really amplify the front and rears which is what i want to do. My amp is probably a little overrated at 100X 4 since its not "top quality" I'd have to get a true power 125+ X 4 amp to satisfy all 4 speakers. A quality amp like that will cost probably around 300.00.

So my thinking is that if i am going to spend the time and money getting a new amp, why not try something new. Get myself 4 speakers that will thrive on around 125 watts of power and see how it sounds. Like i said earlier, the loudest highs (and favorite) i had was with 4 low quality speakers being amped by a 75X4 Sony amp.

bigmac16
01-05-2007, 01:07 AM
If yoy want loud, look at digital designs 6.5's

scooter924
01-05-2007, 01:26 AM
You can find info on the germs at their website www.rainbow-car-audio.de. You can also search the boards on here, you will hear great things about them. These are BNIB, asking 400 OBO-price negotiable. I also have a BNIB US amps md22 if you are interested.

Platestacker45
01-05-2007, 01:41 AM
When I think loud, I think Eminence. Most of us Florida boys' rock them. They are pro-audio guitar cabinet speakers fitted into cars. They get very very loud and can be heard crystal clear from hundreds of feet away. I've heard lyrics to a song from over 1/4 mile away from my buddies Lincoln back in the day. Match a few of those with a few of Pyramid's TW series tweeters and your in for a hurtin!

mlstrass
01-05-2007, 02:34 AM
Simple and cheap loud: 4 Pioneer REV coax's and any 4 channel amp that does around 75x4. I run them for rear fill and they get LOUD and stay clean.

I run the AA poly mids/Vifa tweets up front and with the rear fill on and cranked up it's STUPID loud, but very clean and full sounding. You can listen at that volume for long periods of time, but that leads to LOTS of ringing in the ears. :eek:

mysilver02alty
01-05-2007, 02:44 AM
Simple and cheap loud: 4 Pioneer REV coax's and any 4 channel amp that does around 75x4. I run them for rear fill and they get LOUD and stay clean.

I run the AA poly mids/Vifa tweets up front and with the rear fill on and cranked up it's STUPID loud, but very clean and full sounding. You can listen at that volume for long periods of time, but that leads to LOTS of ringing in the ears. :eek:


Thats pretty much the same kind of setup i already have except i have a 100X 4 amp and MB quarts.

Im not saying my syst. aint loud, i just want the loudest. Whether or not its cheap or not. Cheap is better but i'll spend the money if i have to.

zSnb
01-05-2007, 03:24 AM
I've got some JL XR's up front. I really enjoy them. Im not gonna say they are the best out there. The midbass is sharp and very detailed but it probably not overly powerful, but the tweeters are the loudest I have heard at 105rms per speaker. I step out of my car after about 15 minutes of driving and I cant hear for crap. They are also very detailed and can get kind of harsh at times. Exactly how I like my sound. I would imagine a system sounding awesome with some XR coaxils for your rear fill also.

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 10:22 AM
When I think loud, I think Eminence. Most of us Florida boys' rock them. They are pro-audio guitar cabinet speakers fitted into cars. They get very very loud and can be heard crystal clear from hundreds of feet away. I've heard lyrics to a song from over 1/4 mile away from my buddies Lincoln back in the day. Match a few of those with a few of Pyramid's TW series tweeters and your in for a hurtin!

yesssssssssssssssssssssssss

iamamp3pimp
01-05-2007, 10:25 AM
gay

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 10:26 AM
no. loud

bballrrt06
01-05-2007, 10:43 AM
so no one's suggest the fi btl 6x9s? fully loaded?

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 11:16 AM
lmao

mysilver02alty
01-05-2007, 12:30 PM
pimpedout97x, hit me up on yahoo messenger at rjb0978

I want two sets of the speakers and tweeters

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 12:36 PM
im not selling them, check www.partsexpress.com

eminence alpha 6a

eminence apt80

mysilver02alty
01-05-2007, 01:21 PM
im not selling them, check www.partsexpress.com

eminence alpha 6a

eminence apt80

Arent they 8 ohm speakers? What kind of 4 channel amp would power 2 sets of 6.5's with tweeters properly?

Ive never seen 8 ohm speakers and have no clue about how they get wired or at what ohm load or how much power they would thrive on.

helotaxi
01-05-2007, 01:39 PM
Any amp that can run 4 ohm will run 8 ohm without any problem. You want loud rear fill, don't use a crossover on your subs. Same effect.

iamamp3pimp
01-05-2007, 02:19 PM
same effect, but you lost a ton of sub output

helotaxi
01-05-2007, 03:02 PM
Sounds like **** either way, what's the diff?

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 03:14 PM
run the tweets off ur HU and get a lil 2 channel amp and put 100w to each 6.5"

will be hella loud.

xpl0it
01-05-2007, 03:17 PM
If you want 4 loud subs I'm selling 4 extremely loud subs for cheap.

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 03:19 PM
he wants 4 loud speakers for his mids/highs

mysilver02alty
01-05-2007, 03:35 PM
Sounds like **** either way, what's the diff?


lol

helotaxi
01-05-2007, 09:27 PM
Pair of horns, pair or quartet of good midbasses. 25-50W x2 for the horns. 100-200Wx2 for the midbasses. You would be unable to sit in the car at anything approaching max output. It should stage and image well and you won't even notice that you don't have rear speakers. I firmly believe that anyone who thinks that they need 4 speakers to be "enveloped" in sound is basing this opinion on conjecture rather than experience concerning a properly setup and powered front stage.

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 10:04 PM
big horns are harder to installer

pimpedout97x
01-05-2007, 10:06 PM
mids i have- http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=290-400

tweets i have- http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=290-532

i bought mine locally from some ghetto flea market place, they were new though, came out to be cheaper than even ebay prices too.

but ya all the ghetto cruisers down here in florida use em for mids and highs. theres people using 10" eminence for theyre mids and highs. it all depends on the person and how they sound to you.

me, i love it. (for an spl system of course)

and all the ghetto people are concerned with is loud, not SQ. lol

Savstyle
01-08-2007, 03:13 AM
Pair of horns, pair or quartet of good midbasses. 25-50W x2 for the horns. 100-200Wx2 for the midbasses. You would be unable to sit in the car at anything approaching max output. It should stage and image well and you won't even notice that you don't have rear speakers. I firmly believe that anyone who thinks that they need 4 speakers to be "enveloped" in sound is basing this opinion on conjecture rather than experience concerning a properly setup and powered front stage.

:word:

horns are awesome, and yeah 25-50rms to em you WONT turn it all the way up trust me.

mysilver02alty
01-08-2007, 11:02 AM
:word:

horns are awesome, and yeah 25-50rms to em you WONT turn it all the way up trust me.

Thanks, im def. gonna try that in about 3 months or so when i trade in my car.

And by the way, its not that i want to be obnoxiously loud 24/7 but theres some times when i'd like to have the extra juice on some old school songs that have weak highs and alot of bass. Also, sometimes when you burn a cd compilation, some of the songs dont come out sounding as loud as on the original cd and they sound like crap even with a good set of components turned all the way up. And my ipod connected to the hu, forget about it, every song sounds like its on half volume. Thats the reason i want much louder, not so i can lose the rest of my hearing by end of the year.

PremierAudio
01-08-2007, 11:34 AM
Good to know you want to keep your hearing.. But ya, Horns FTW when going all out. Still wish I had my IDs. Imaging was great and they really do get pretty loud of low power!

SlainNothing
01-08-2007, 11:37 AM
if you just want loud then emience.... cheap ghetto loud.
also get a 4 channel amp with a 24/db crossover

alpha 6c are the 6" 4 ohm car versions.....
and any super tweet that fits in your car...

on the other hand like you want: the more expensive speakers with good sq have a nice warm natural sound..:you dont like that. find a good set that have review of being aggressive and (not sure how to put it but) "full of impact".

spend about 300 up front 100 on the rear and 300 on the amp... + wiring...

jl 450/4? 125 watts for the comps and like what 25 for the rear?

or find an amp with a 24/db slop x-over (less bass less fexing louder to a point)


in my opinion my jbl gti were very dynamic and bass heavy & very good sounding warm feeling...
my other truck has the aa poly mids and i love them a hell of a lot more on how they sound.

its all user specific so go listen to some at a shop.



if you want to do it right go 3 way. if you want it loud'er then go with a custom active 3 way..

helotaxi
01-08-2007, 11:44 AM
And my ipod connected to the hu, forget about it, every song sounds like its on half volume.
Sounds like your time and money would be better spent getting a better iPod interface, HU or both. My iPod is as loud as any other source unit I have (radio, CD, XM) using the Alpine Full Speed cable.

CBFryman2
01-08-2007, 11:45 AM
When I think loud, I think Eminence. Most of us Florida boys' rock them. They are pro-audio guitar cabinet speakers fitted into cars. They get very very loud and can be heard crystal clear from hundreds of feet away. I've heard lyrics to a song from over 1/4 mile away from my buddies Lincoln back in the day. Match a few of those with a few of Pyramid's TW series tweeters and your in for a hurtin!

Meh

atoz350
01-08-2007, 12:08 PM
And my ipod connected to the hu, forget about it, every song sounds like its on half volume.


You can also adjust the volume of the songs on your Ipod. Go to Itunes and raise the volume of the songs, sync, and you are done. I did this when turned my gain down on my amp to get rid of noise from my processor.

mysilver02alty
01-08-2007, 12:15 PM
You can also adjust the volume of the songs on your Ipod. Go to Itunes and raise the volume of the songs, sync, and you are done. I did this when turned my gain down on my amp to get rid of noise from my processor.

Nice, will try that later today.

Also, the ipod connector that i got is the fm crap thing that connects into the cigarette lighter. When i was deciding whether to connect it directly to the back of the Alpine HU or go with the lighter connection, the guy at the audio shop couldnt guarantee that it would sound any better. So i spent the 20 bucks instead of the 100 bucks. I guess you get what you pay for.

helotaxi
01-08-2007, 12:37 PM
Also, the ipod connector that i got is the fm crap thing that connects into the cigarette lighter. When i was deciding whether to connect it directly to the back of the Alpine HU or go with the lighter connection, the guy at the audio shop couldnt guarantee that it would sound any better. So i spent the 20 bucks instead of the 100 bucks. I guess you get what you pay for.

That guy is an idiot! Hard wired will sound better every time.

tein_69
01-08-2007, 01:23 PM
beyma speakers dude they so loud dayumm!!