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honda_Racing101
12-25-2006, 11:50 PM
Alright i'll start out by saying hello to everyone here. This seems like a really good site and im glad I found it.

Alright, im in the process of buying a alpine 9835 hu, and for front componets I was planning on getting polk/momo MMC6500s, but for the rears I really dont know what I want. I was thinking just coaxials will be fine, but Im not sure what kind to get. Id like something that has decent bass, provided it will be amped, and also I dont want them to be very expensive. Also, what type amp would you suggest to power the system im planning on?

This will all be in a Honda del sol btw.

Any info/comments will be appreciated.

Once again, great site and thanks.

ctmike
12-25-2006, 11:53 PM
you plan on getting a sub? if so forget the rear speakers. you really don't need them especially in a car that small. imo i'd just look into getting a really nice set of comps for the front and amp them, leaving the rear speakers in and ran from the hu.

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 12:06 AM
No, im not planning on a sub. Hard hitting bass is great, but in a car like a del sol where theres a solid wall between the trunk and the cabin, the sound quality isnt great. I prefer tight sound to heavy bass, but i'd still like a rear set of coaxials that have enough bass to fufill my needs when I do want a little extra thump.

squeak9798
12-26-2006, 12:11 AM
How big are the stock rear speakers?

There are, for example, some decent 6.5" subwoofer options that might suit your needs, that you could drop in the OEM locations to provide that lower octave fill you are wanting.

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 12:18 AM
The stocks front n rear are 5.25 but 6.5s fit with litte modification.

What did you have in mind?

ctmike
12-26-2006, 12:19 AM
http://ascendantaudio.com/poly_6.5_page.html

those are really nice and a great price.

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 12:28 AM
Wow, only $35? Have you used these before? Will I have to fab up some sort of enclosure to get these to sound right? Ive never heard of these, so please, enlighten me.

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 12:30 AM
Hmm these are made in Crstal Lake, IL thats not too far from here.

Also, how would I got about wiring these? Anything different as opposed to coaxials?

ngsm13
12-26-2006, 12:36 AM
Wow, only $35? Have you used these before? Will I have to fab up some sort of enclosure to get these to sound right? Ive never heard of these, so please, enlighten me.

Those are actually better as a mid used in a component set.

With a HU like the 9835, you have the capability of going active! DO IT!

For a decent explanation, see here:
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146726

You could pick up the Ascendant audio 6.5's along with the VifaXT25's and have a DIY component set that you could tune yourself using the Alpine 9835. It's actually what I'm temporarily running in my vehicle, 9835...Ascendant Poly's... and Vifa XT25.

Then all you'd need is a decent 4channel amplifier to power the front stage.

As for rears, you could still as suggested use a pair of 6.5" subwoofers so to speak and run them off the 9835 on the subout as well. Pick up a small 2channel or mono for the rear "subs".

Some 6.5" subwoofers to look at:
TangBang 6.5
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=264-832
Elemental Designs 6.5
http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=33
MpyreAudio 6.5
http://www.mpyreaudio.com/65x0.htm

With your space and the awesome ability of the Alpine 9835, that is what I would do to get the most out of your setup!

nG

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 12:47 AM
Wow, I looked over the link you gave about going active and its still really confusing to me. Im pretty new to car audio, but im trying to learn. I know the 9835 is great for going active, but I dont understand it all that well. I've played around with i personalize, but its still really confusing. Sorry im such a noob.

As for front componets, im pretty set on the polk/momos.

As for rear 6.5 subs I just dont know.

What about these? http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=SPX-17MB&lang=en&tab=F Any good? Too expensive though.

ngsm13
12-26-2006, 12:56 AM
Wow, I looked over the link you gave about going active and its still really confusing to me. Im pretty new to car audio, but im trying to learn. I know the 9835 is great for going active, but I dont understand it all that well. I've played around with i personalize, but its still really confusing. Sorry im such a noob.

As for front componets, im pretty set on the polk/momos.

As for rear 6.5 subs I just dont know.

What about these? http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=SPX-17MB&lang=en&tab=F Any good? Too expensive though.

Not as good of a choice when your looking for "bass" out of a 6.5"

The three I listed would be Ideal, I'd personally take the TangBand.

Also, if you go active... it leaves you with A LOT more options as far as components.

The ability to have more volume, cleaner/crisper highs, and the ability to tune to your tastes. A lot more than the Polk's could ever dream of, hell the mids and tweets I'm recommending, they're similar one's that the PolkSR6500 components are based off of.

Hell, if you wanted I could even send you an iPersonalize CD with a few setting saved on them as a starting point... that you could load up if you went active with the AA Poly's and XT25's. Use those as a starting point and fine tune to your tastes.

nG

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 12:00 PM
How much would the diy componet set you listed cost? Sorry, im lazy and I dont feel like looking up prices.

Sending me a ipersonalize cd to get me started would be great! I have to get the hu first however.

Hmm, i'll have to think about what I want to do for the rears.

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 03:42 PM
Also, what do you recomend for a 4 channel amp? Ive looked around in the amp section, but I cant make a choice.

Would you recomend any of these for decent amps for a low price.
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=567
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4464
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3472
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4256
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2959

ngsm13
12-26-2006, 04:04 PM
How much would the diy componet set you listed cost? Sorry, im lazy and I dont feel like looking up prices.

Sending me a ipersonalize cd to get me started would be great! I have to get the hu first however.

Hmm, i'll have to think about what I want to do for the rears.

The DIY components I listed would cost about $140, two 6.5's and two 1" tweeters.

As for the rears, personally I'd choose the TangBands... and use them as a subwoofer off the HU. Hell you can do this even if you decided to go with the PASSIVE Polk components.

Also, what do you recomend for a 4 channel amp? Ive looked around in the amp section, but I cant make a choice.

Would you recomend any of these for decent amps for a low price.
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=567
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4464
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3472
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4256
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2959

The Kenwood, the Infinity, and the Rockford would be my top three choices. The Infinity will give you the most power, but it's a large amplifier. :fyi:

nG

honda_Racing101
12-26-2006, 07:25 PM
Ok, I looked those up, and as shallow as it may sound, they just dont have the physical look Id like. The fronts eont be covered up by a cover, so whats showing needs to look good. Heres an idea what the front will be like, just different speakers.
http://www.dstuning.com/How_To-Install%20_6.5Inch_Speakers.asp

So your saying that if I go with the polks, I wont be able to go active. Sorry, I really dont have a great understanding of active.

ngsm13
12-26-2006, 11:13 PM
Huh, you're saying you wouldn't want the AA 6.5" poly's b/c of the location they're going in being visible?

Sorry, I don't understand your statement...

nG

thehardknoxlife
12-27-2006, 12:07 AM
I wouldn't be set on the Momo's. I currently run a set they're ok but for the money the DIY option is the smarter choice. I had the Dayton Ref (comparable to the AA poly I believe) and the sound was much more enjoyable and cheaper.

Hintzyboy
12-27-2006, 01:44 AM
I personally really like the look of the Poly Mids. And you'd be vary hard pressed to find a better setup for the money. You can go active with any set of components, but the Polks just wouldn't stack up to the Poly/Vifa setup. If you don't like the look of bare Poly mids, just buy or make a grille.

honda_Racing101
12-27-2006, 11:48 AM
Huh, you're saying you wouldn't want the AA 6.5" poly's b/c of the location they're going in being visible?

Sorry, I don't understand your statement...

nG

Yes, as shallow as it sounds, one qualification of whatever speakers I get for the fronts is that they must look good.

I'll keep researching.

ngsm13
12-27-2006, 09:13 PM
Yes, as shallow as it sounds, one qualification of whatever speakers I get for the fronts is that they must look good.

I'll keep researching.

Hmmph.

I actually like the look, the polished phase plug... **** black cone.

Lawl.

Oh well.