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smitty400
12-20-2006, 05:06 PM
I'm putting in 2 12" Type R's with a Hifonics 1600 watt mono amp with a Jensen VM9510 video deck (4 x 18w). Which speakers should I install? For ease of install I want coaxials that don't need to be amped. I have an 06 F150 with 6x8 door speakers. Thanks for your help.

DejaWiz
12-20-2006, 05:14 PM
Here's just a few that'd work ok....

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_3575.html

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6621.html

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_4311.html

kublkmax
12-20-2006, 05:20 PM
Ok you are putting 2 12" subs and powering them up pretty good and you want to run front speaker off a Jensen deck??:eyebrow: If that is what you are gonna do then you might as well just leave the factory ones in there. All you are gonna hear is bass from your subs. I would you suggest that you get another amp to run your front stage. You can do coaxials if you like or componets would be better. What is your budget for this project that might help with getting more responses. Just some food for thought.

bballrrt06
12-20-2006, 05:27 PM
this thread is like revenge of the noobs

get 6.5's instead of 6x8s

DejaWiz
12-20-2006, 05:43 PM
this thread is like revenge of the noobs

get 6.5's instead of 6x8s

Yes, that would be ideal...
But we don't know if the OP is up to fashioning adapters out of MDF, which would be ideal and well worth it since the generic plastic adapters absolutely ****.

smitty400
12-20-2006, 09:33 PM
Ok you are putting 2 12" subs and powering them up pretty good and you want to run front speaker off a Jensen deck??:eyebrow: If that is what you are gonna do then you might as well just leave the factory ones in there. All you are gonna hear is bass from your subs. I would you suggest that you get another amp to run your front stage. You can do coaxials if you like or componets would be better. What is your budget for this project that might help with getting more responses. Just some food for thought.

Then if another amp for the speakers is necessary then i will get one. I will have a remote bass control for the amp, so bass will not be blasting all the time. My budget is around 250 for speakers and amp.

smitty400
12-21-2006, 01:26 PM
After reading up on people's negative experiences with Hifonics, decided to go with Power Acoustik SL-2000D amp: http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6215.html. Still looking for an amp for the speakers.

smitty400
12-21-2006, 01:57 PM
Speaker choices made:
Front: Kicker KS 68 http://sonicelectronix.com/item_3568.html
Rear: Pioneer TS-A6871R http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6621.html

Looking at this Power Acoustik amp for them: http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6215.html

Hintzyboy
12-21-2006, 02:20 PM
2 sets of THESE (http://sonicelectronix.com/item_4258.html). Just fab ub some adapter baffles out of MDF. Then buy my Memphis ST2004 in the classifieds HERE (http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195430&highlight=lots). I'll give you the amp for $100 plus shipping. It's used, but it's better than almost any other amps you'll find in that price range. Memphis makes some of the most reliable, clean amps on the market. Let me know.

smitty400
12-21-2006, 03:59 PM
Is the audio quality really that bad on the Jensen? If so, how about these instead of the Jensen:
Panasonic: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-kA6RhvTuCHE/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=133VD6503
JVC: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-kA6RhvTuCHE/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=168550&I=257AVX706

I'm moving to L.A. in a bit, so those would have me concerned about theft, as opposed to the flip out Jensen.

Bdawg15
12-21-2006, 05:22 PM
this thread is like revenge of the noobs

get 6.5's instead of 6x8s

if hes getting speakers that cheap then i dont think the difference will matter to him

Hintzyboy
12-21-2006, 05:23 PM
Do you even have a double-din opening in your car? Building a system isn't as easy as just buying random stuff and putting it together. Personally, I don't think a DVD player is necessary. You won't end up watching it much, and you can get much better sound quality out of a decent head unit. You'll be listening to music more than you'd ever watch movies. Plus, the extra $$$ you'd save would let you upgrade the rest of the system.

smitty400
12-22-2006, 12:17 AM
I do have a double din opening, its for an 2006 F150 regular cab. And I've actually considered the fact that I won't watch many movies or TV, but any other head unit seems bland now compared having a screen. If I find a ****** one then maybe I'll get that. Sound quality is something I'm concerned about. But honestly my stock radio seems fine, I'm just buying the head unit for the ability to hook up the subs, so SQ probably doesn't mean too much to me.

Hintzyboy
12-22-2006, 12:19 AM
Pick up an Alpine 9835. Very nice units with lots of features. Nice Face, built-in x-over, and available for around $300

smitty400
12-22-2006, 12:37 AM
I've given it some thought, and you're right. I would never use the video feature much, its really a novelty item. I'm probably going to get this deck now:
Kenwood Excelon DDX701: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-bx16GuKa2Ul/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&tab=essential_info&i=113DPX701#Tab

Hintzyboy
12-22-2006, 12:41 AM
Excelons are pretty good decks, but I don't know about that particular unit. Personally, I'd save myself a little cash by picking up a nice Single-DIN deck with some decent features. It'd give you more money to spend on getting nicer equipment for the rest of your system.

Hintzyboy
12-22-2006, 12:46 AM
With around $750 for HU, speakers, and amp, you should be able to put together a nice setup.

Here's what i suggest:

HU: Alpine 9835 (~$300)
Speakers: 2 Sets of Pioneer Rev 6.5" or one set of CDT EF-61FGs (available on woofersetc.com)

Amp: Memphis PR100.4 (Revs) or PR300.2 (CDTs) both available at woofersetc.com

Hintzyboy
12-22-2006, 12:50 AM
Or even an Alpine 9856. Since you're a noob and aren't getting high-level stuff, you don't really need all the tuning of the 9835. Thes have a nice iPod interface as well.

smitty400
12-22-2006, 02:26 AM
Thanks for all the tips. The only thing I don't like about the 9856 is the 80's era display. I would have to get at least a 9857 to satisfy that little nit pick of mine. That's why the dvd units were so appealing, nice high tech interface. Will one pair of CDT speakers really do the job? Cuz replacing the suicide door speakers is a pain.

DejaWiz
12-22-2006, 10:27 AM
Couple of other HU suggestions if you want some other options:

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6661.html

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_8270.html

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_7462.html

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6812.html

http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6983.html

smitty400
12-22-2006, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the links DejaWiz. You understood what I meant with having a quality display. I've decided to go with the Pioneer Premier 7800. Looks the best to me and I know I can trust its sound quality.

Pioneer HU:
http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6982.html#

Hintzyboy
12-22-2006, 02:02 PM
Yeah, the premiers are nice units. Probably a better all-around deck than the 9856. I'd still rather have the 9835, but I'm more into the tuning and getting the best SQ possible.

As for the CDTs, they should do the job just fine. In a small environment like a truck, they'll get plenty loud. If you tend to have passengers in the back very often, keep the stock rears for some rear fill. Otherwise just rip all the stock speakers out.

DejaWiz
12-22-2006, 05:36 PM
Thanks for the links DejaWiz. You understood what I meant with having a quality display. I've decided to go with the Pioneer Premier 7800. Looks the best to me and I know I can trust its sound quality.

Pioneer HU:
http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6982.html#

Glad to assist. You'll likely by very pleased with that HU! I'm still running an old DEH-P8400MP and it sounds awesome. The 7800 has a slight edge over it. And cheaper, too. ;)

kublkmax
12-22-2006, 10:41 PM
Oh and with a reg cab truck don't buy rears. Take that money and put it torwards your amp or front stage. all you need is a decent 4 channel. any one got suggetions with his budget. The stuff that I like and use and deal with on a normal basis would shoot him out of his budget quick.

smitty400
12-26-2006, 08:42 PM
Thanks for all the tips guys. Now with only front speakers to worry about I can spend more for the pair. How about Infinity Kappas running off the deck?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QbmOAyvYi9V/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=52200&tab=essential_info&i=1086827CF#Tab

Or any 100 buck amp to power those two?

O and a really noob question but if I'm getting two Type R 12" subs running off a 1 ohm Class D monoblock (1600W RMS) do I want 2 ohm or 4 ohm subs? Thanks again.

Hintzyboy
12-27-2006, 01:59 AM
for the money, there are much better options than kappa coaxials. I'd go with some CDT EF-61FG components from woofersetc.com

Decent litle comps, and only $200

Hintzyboy
12-27-2006, 02:00 AM
And if you're running 2 Type-Rs on a 1-ohm load, you want 2 dual-4 ohm subs