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brendan_121212
12-13-2006, 01:49 AM
Check out my first box

http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=7409&c=3059 :naughty: :yumyum:

JoshHd6
12-13-2006, 01:51 AM
Lawl.....

brendan_121212
12-13-2006, 01:52 AM
Looks like ****.

Nice.:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:

Exploder 97
12-13-2006, 01:53 AM
lmasdflmasdfo i laughed

ngsm13
12-13-2006, 01:53 AM
Yuck.

I didn't know people still used the piece of **** gallery.

nG

NebBlackshirts
12-13-2006, 01:53 AM
dang, after all this ridicule, i am afraid to even try :uhoh:

brendan_121212
12-13-2006, 01:59 AM
Pretty tough critisims from people that don't even have pictures in there gally, except, nG.

jmanpc
12-13-2006, 02:00 AM
i thought that was a joke.

dkmesa
12-13-2006, 02:03 AM
Pretty tough critisims from people that don't even have pictures in there gally, except, nG.

I don't think anyone could do much worse...lawl
At least use the right materials...MDF and automotive carpet aren't exactly rare commodities

JoshHd6
12-13-2006, 02:03 AM
can u build me a box for my type rs............................................


























































































SIKE..U ****..LOL

jmanpc
12-13-2006, 02:03 AM
i love the porch carpet

LinxuS
12-13-2006, 02:06 AM
What kind of what is that? And why would you use that carpet lol..

Uglier must mean louder... obviously

brendan_121212
12-13-2006, 02:11 AM
Give me a ****ing break, its my first box. Like you built a perfect box on your first try.

ultimate157
12-13-2006, 02:13 AM
Change the carpet and it probably wont look too bad.

Thats some shaggy **** though.

brendan_121212
12-13-2006, 02:15 AM
Change the carpet and it probably wont look too bad.

Thats some shaggy **** though.


It's better than no carpet like some people have.

Pyro_By_Nature
12-13-2006, 02:15 AM
I can't tell on the build quality, but the carpet choice isn't exactly the best. . . . .

Pyro_By_Nature
12-13-2006, 02:16 AM
It's better than no carpet like some people have.

Ummm, no it's not.I'd rather have a nicely built, bare box than put THAT carpet on there.

bumpin421
12-13-2006, 02:22 AM
box itself isn't terrible for a first timer...but you can't really tell.

if i were you i'd rip that carpet off ASAP and find some other finish for it or recarpet it.

it really looks like you didn't give a sh*t about the outcome of it at all....really though....is it that hard to go grab any kind of knife like tool and shave down the carpet to where it doesn't have shaggy *** edges like that?

ultimate157
12-13-2006, 02:27 AM
It's better than no carpet like some people have.

I'm rockin the bare MDF covered in glue. Performance > looks.

Lil_KB
12-13-2006, 02:31 AM
not horrible considering its your first...

and most of that looks like it can be cleaned up if you just take some time to shave down the carpet edges a little better, as stated above...

brendan_121212
12-13-2006, 02:44 AM
yeah i know the carpets at bit fuzzy but its also my first time working with carpet, and that **** is thick and tough to cut.

Lil_KB
12-13-2006, 02:47 AM
yeah i know the carpets at bit fuzzy but its also my first time working with carpet, and that **** is thick and tough to cut.

does it have a backing? i'm guessing so...

carpet with backing = no no for carpeting enclosures.

here's a tip...http://partsexpress.com

get the carpet w/o backing in w/e color and quantity you need....you can't beat their prices and shipping imo....

brendan_121212
12-13-2006, 02:52 AM
does it have a backing? i'm guessing so...

carpet with backing = no no for carpeting enclosures.

here's a tip...http://partsexpress.com

get the carpet w/o backing in w/e color and quantity you need....you can't beat their prices and shipping imo....

Yeah it has backing, I dunno I just had this carpet around from our house build, and I thought why not? And maybe plywood wasn't the best bet. But heck i'm going to try it out and see what happens, If it sounds bad, i will make a new one. W/E i'm bored.

pitbull12888
12-13-2006, 02:53 AM
lmao wtf is that... nice try though man keep it up

Lil_KB
12-13-2006, 02:53 AM
Yeah it has backing, I dunno I just had this carpet around from our house build, and I thought why not? And maybe plywood wasn't the best bet. But heck i'm going to try it out and see what happens, If it sounds bad, i will make a new one. W/E i'm bored.

well the backing is what killed you....it's no fun to work with.

but as long as you sealed it up well...it should sound good.

the good thing is you're learning from mistakes already and it's gonna make your boxes improve each time....

dumple
12-13-2006, 03:06 AM
It's better than no carpet like some people have.



fux carpet it costs more

ssj2xxgotenxx
12-13-2006, 05:55 AM
It's better than no carpet like some people have.

Some boxes look better without carpet. For example, Iamamp3pimp's birch boxes look pretty awsome without carpet. Bare MDF boxes looks really good with rounded edges and no screws. I always use carpet because I don't like to show the screws. Not that bad of a job for a first attempt; think of it as a learning experience.

yne721
12-13-2006, 06:23 AM
i think "my FIRST box" would've been a more appropriate thread title...

AcidicDreams
12-13-2006, 06:46 AM
Yeah it has backing, I dunno I just had this carpet around from our house build, and I thought why not? And maybe plywood wasn't the best bet. But heck i'm going to try it out and see what happens, If it sounds bad, i will make a new one. W/E i'm bored.

Plywood isn't just "not the best bet"... it's flat out the wrong material. A sheet of 3/4" MDF is $22.... the proper carpeting is ~$10...

from what it looks like though the box is square and the hole is round... that's 90% of it. Now go buy the right materials and remake it... remember, glue & clamps is better then glue and screws..... just screws won't work.... besides screws + MDF = splits everytime...

and if you want to get creative with the covering try something like this:

http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/1/8/3/9/1/QQRR0002.JPG

instead of carpeting w/ backing

jdawg
12-13-2006, 11:37 AM
Give me a ****ing break, its my first box. Like you built a perfect box on your first try.

I did, with basic woodworking skills, mdf, and carpet from walmart like 10 years ago, it was for a radio shack 8" ported lol

hatemonger
12-13-2006, 11:44 AM
you guys should give him a break man. i commend him for having the nuts to post up his first box. he knows it looks bad. i doubt any of you will make ******* of the year, so stop tryin' so hard.

ramos
12-13-2006, 11:47 AM
Not bad man , not digging the carpet . But not to bad . My first enclosure is still in my mothers garage . I'm gonna have to snap some pics of that ugly bastage :D

slim j
12-13-2006, 11:51 AM
I have seen worse 1st boxes....

I think the carpet is what did you in.

Many people here hate on plywood but I still believe I can make a good box out of advantec one of these days I will...maybe my next box.

acold7dusta
12-13-2006, 12:08 PM
x2 not bad at all for your first box. youll learn as oyu move on that the box makes the sound, and sooner or later, you'll build a ported box and be amazed at the difference. keep it up, try non backing carpet next time, and see how it turns out

KARLEON
12-13-2006, 12:15 PM
Give me a ****ing break, its my first box. Like you built a perfect box on your first try.

I did. Check my gallery for my first box....But i give you props, atleast u did attempt to build an enclosure. The more u try it, the better you will get. I cant stand to see people pay 100s of bux for an enclosure.

KARLEON
12-13-2006, 12:18 PM
dont know if it has been mentioned, but if you use screws predrill and countersink. And clamps are your friend when it comes to building. Pick up some caulk and seal up in the insides too.

dkmesa
12-13-2006, 01:49 PM
Give me a ****ing break, its my first box. Like you built a perfect box on your first try.

I used 3/4" MDF and automotive carpet and cut it to fit. No ugly seems or anything

Pitchblack98
12-13-2006, 01:53 PM
My cats have a box just like that they sleep in and play on. lol

dkmesa
12-13-2006, 02:01 PM
My cats have a box just like that they sleep in and play on. lol

I was thinking the same thing. Same kind of carpet used on those cat houses

Hintzyboy
12-13-2006, 08:30 PM
Looks awfully ****** ****** ******. But you get points for not being lazy and at least trying. Just keep going and use the correct materials next time. If at first you don't succeed...

PV Audio
12-13-2006, 08:33 PM
Give me a ****ing break, its my first box. Like you built a perfect box on your first try.
Don't mind these people. Believe me, that looks like a B&W loudspeaker compared to my first boxes. In fact, those panels are actually touching :)

Keep it up, and you'll get the hang of it. However, I must say that the carpet is not good. Not the carpeting job itself, but the actual material. Speaker carpet isn't ACTUALLY carpet, it's more like thick felt.

DFW40
12-13-2006, 11:43 PM
Box building takes a while to get down and having the right tools and using partsexpress really helps. Keep yor chin up.



http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/rossmcelroy/Shinybox005.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/rossmcelroy/KCpaintspeaker024.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/rossmcelroy/Box2002.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/rossmcelroy/box004.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/rossmcelroy/brad008.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/rossmcelroy/stereo007.jpg

ramos
12-14-2006, 08:42 AM
And sometimes they even end up almost square :)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/moyerme/newinstall045.jpg


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/moyerme/100_0513.jpg

disturbedfuel15
12-14-2006, 09:20 AM
Yeah, at least he has the balls to post this. Reminds me of the time someone posted their box with the hole for the sub that looked like ****. Whatever works man. It was your first time, but you have to admit that the carpet is pretty ****ed up. If anything, why didn't you cut those frays off? Come on man, you had to expect this kind of criticism.

maldecido33
12-14-2006, 01:31 PM
Don't mind these people. Believe me, that looks like a B&W loudspeaker compared to my first boxes. In fact, those panels are actually touching :)

Keep it up, and you'll get the hang of it. However, I must say that the carpet is not good. Not the carpeting job itself, but the actual material. Speaker carpet isn't ACTUALLY carpet, it's more like thick felt.



lol so true; those things could've passed as modern art masterpieces

where is flakko's (i think his) sub cutout?

UMGixxer
12-14-2006, 04:21 PM
i say if ya got it laying around then why the hell not

PV Audio
12-14-2006, 05:17 PM
lol so true; those things could've passed as modern art masterpieces

where is flakko's (i think his) sub cutout?
:laugh:

ThomasG
12-14-2006, 05:24 PM
its not a bad box.. its just the carpeting. LMAO at the people who are all trippin out

Hintzyboy
12-14-2006, 05:27 PM
its not a bad box.. its just the carpeting. LMAO at the people who are all trippin out

it's also made out of plywood. Not really the best material for boxes.

PV Audio
12-14-2006, 08:49 PM
it's also made out of plywood. Not really the best material for boxes.
Says who? Plywood is fine for speaker enclosures, it's just that it is far more expensive than fiberboard and has zero advantages.

Hintzyboy
12-14-2006, 09:11 PM
IDK, I've just always been advised against using plywood for boxes. Perhaps I've just been misinformed.

PV Audio
12-14-2006, 09:45 PM
You haven't been "misinformed", it isn't a good material to use for sub enclosures because it's very expensive and doesn't have any benefits, but PHYSICALLY, it is fine to use.

AcidicDreams
12-14-2006, 10:30 PM
You haven't been "misinformed", it isn't a good material to use for sub enclosures because it's very expensive and doesn't have any benefits, but PHYSICALLY, it is fine to use.

isn't MDF denser than most regular plywood? Also it seems like it would be more of a PITA to work with and seal up...

Hintzyboy
12-14-2006, 10:44 PM
I would also think that since plywood is basically a bunch of wood chips glued together, it wouldn't hold together in that kind of environment as well as a solid material. It probably wouldn't matter in most setups, but I imagine that in more extreme applications, it might pose a problem over time. Plywood isn't that hard to break really. This is just speculation and I might be way off bass, but it's something to think about.

Prowler573
12-14-2006, 10:46 PM
I would also think that since plywood is basically a bunch of wood chips glued together, it wouldn't hold together in that kind of environment as well as a solid material. It probably wouldn't matter in most setups, but I imagine that in more extreme applications, it might pose a problem over time. Plywood isn't that hard to break really. This is just speculation and I might be way off bass, but it's something to think about.

Whatcha reckon fiberboard is, out of curiosity?

Hintzyboy
12-14-2006, 10:49 PM
It just seems more solid to me. I know it's not a complete slab that's cut out of a tree or anything, but I can't see the pieces in it either. Maybe it's all in my head, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

Hintzyboy
12-14-2006, 10:54 PM
MDF tends to snap, whereas plywood kind of breaks and peels just a little. I would think that it would have more flex in an enclosure-type situation. The difference, if any, is probably negligible, but the difference in the way they're manufactured has to create some different characteristics.

ramos
12-15-2006, 08:33 AM
Just like fiberboard (MDF, HDF,LDF, yada yada ) , there are different kinds of plywood . What do you think the birch that people are so hot on now is ? Sure as he!! ain't a solid 4'x8' 3/4" thick slab of birch ;) There are some plywoods just as good if not better than mdf. Judgng by the grain in the bottom of the enclosure , looks like he used a decent grade of ply. Just should of painted, stained or something other than that fugly indoor outdoor carpet :)

Hintzyboy
12-15-2006, 12:31 PM
YEah, I've never used the birch or Known anyone who has. Only plywood I've really had experience with is basic stuff used for construction. That's the kind of stuf I was referring to.

PV Audio
12-15-2006, 07:14 PM
YEah, I've never used the birch or Known anyone who has. Only plywood I've really had experience with is basic stuff used for construction. That's the kind of stuf I was referring to.
Yes, you're quite right. The things used for homebuilding and flooring (OSB) are terrible to use, you'd be better off using particle board. What is used for speakers is high quality cabinet grade plywood, which is usually either 5,7, or 13 layers of wood pressed into one. It's very strong, but it's lighter than MDF and can resonate more. Plus, it's extremely expensive.

Calikid
12-15-2006, 07:20 PM
LAWLERS


ummmmm.....................................i t s u nique.

brendan_121212
12-16-2006, 04:33 AM
Sorry I was away for a few days.
Thanks all, I appreciate your comments, I even appreciate the critisim's (well some of them). I will try harder next time.

coolahan
12-16-2006, 05:46 AM
Nt

bvr_j_0969
12-16-2006, 06:26 AM
my first box was 10 times worse then that the pieces were so messed up and did not fit together right so i though hey why not use silicone and fill in these HUGE gaps...... it ended up blowing the sub. and the pvc port that was siliconed in got blown out.. i still have it sitting in my room.