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Randy Savage
12-12-2006, 05:00 PM
Looking at the 40" Samsung LNS4041D

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/462999798

or the 46" Sony KDF-46E2000 RP LCD

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/457999253

Going to be using it for Xbox360, about 50/50 HD/SD content, mostly sports, and DVD's. Eventually I may go to HD-DVD, so it's nice that they both have 2 HDMI inputs.

I can get them for about the same price. The size of the RP doesn't really bother me- while it would be nice to have a flat panel, it's not a necessity. I'm a little concerned about the bulb on the Sony, as most people say it will need replacement from anywhere from 2-5 years. I've heard the bulbs can be had for under $150 and are easily installed.

I went to my local BB and while I know the viewing conditions in there are far from ideal, I did like the picture on the Sammy. Black levels looked pretty good in spite of what everyone says about them on flat panel LCD's.

They had the Sony on display as well, but for some reason it was displayed about 8 ft. up on the wall, which didn't help me.

At maximum I'd like to stay around $1200, which is what I can currently find these available for online (both from authorized dealers).

Anyone have any input on either set?

Johnny Drama
12-12-2006, 05:05 PM
Looking at the 40" Samsung LNS4041D

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/462999798

or the 46" Sony KDF-46E2000 RP LCD

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/457999253

Going to be using it for Xbox360, about 50/50 HD/SD content, mostly sports, and DVD's. Eventually I may go to HD-DVD, so it's nice that they both have 2 HDMI inputs.

I can get them for about the same price. The size of the RP doesn't really bother me- while it would be nice to have a flat panel, it's not a necessity. I'm a little concerned about the bulb on the Sony, as most people say it will need replacement from anywhere from 2-5 years. I've heard the bulbs can be had for under $150 and are easily installed.

I went to my local BB and while I know the viewing conditions in there are far from ideal, I did like the picture on the Sammy. Black levels looked pretty good in spite of what everyone says about them on flat panel LCD's.

They had the Sony on display as well, but for some reason it was displayed about 8 ft. up on the wall, which didn't help me.

At maximum I'd like to stay around $1200, which is what I can currently find these available for online (both from authorized dealers).

Anyone have any input on either set?


Samsung...hands down.

Ask Matt281 what he thinks of his 42" ;)

He chose that over a mitsu and sony RP.

phyphoestilic
12-12-2006, 05:09 PM
see if u can find the samsung thats all black, like that one has the white bottom. But ya I'd choose the samsung

brandontw
12-12-2006, 07:54 PM
rear projection isnt very great...

ours says HDTV on it but thats a loose interpretation i think.

1loudsuv
12-12-2006, 09:00 PM
rear projection isnt very great...

ours says HDTV on it but thats a loose interpretation i think.

and how much did you pay for it ?

just like an lcd or plasma if its a cheapy tv its a cheapy tv and will look like doodo

me the sony will look better tehn the samsung

BUT if its gonna be in a room where your gonna be seating in an angle or if its a bright room then get the lcd.

kuijo
12-12-2006, 09:01 PM
Just got a flat screen HDTV Samsung 30". HDMI and everything it was 699 shipped.

Edit: nevermind you're looking for a bigger TV. Out of those two id go with the samsung.

Randy Savage
12-12-2006, 09:03 PM
and how much did you pay for it ?

just like an lcd or plasma if its a cheapy tv its a cheapy tv and will look like doodo

me the sony will look better tehn the samsung

BUT if its gonna be in a room where your gonna be seating in an angle or if its a bright room then get the lcd.

Angle won't really be an issue, I can pretty much aim it wherever I want to.

The room doesn't get much light from the windows, it's a decently lit room though.

P.S.- Anyone know if Best Buy will pricematch from an authorized online dealer, like Vanns? They are an authorized Samsung dealer and have the Sammy for $1200 shipped.

Calikid
12-12-2006, 09:05 PM
samsung ftw

Randy Savage
12-12-2006, 11:42 PM
I can actually get the 50" Sony, with the Harmony H659 remote, for the same price as the 40" Sammy LCD.

ngsm13
12-12-2006, 11:54 PM
Hmm...

nG

rtillaree
12-12-2006, 11:57 PM
samsung FTFMW...ive had mine for several months, and all of the flawless reviews are completely accurate, these are by far the best pictures on the market this year...of course thats my opinion...

Echo42987
12-13-2006, 12:01 AM
Samsung hands down. If your looking into gaming though I would totally get the Samsung LNS4051D

It's by far the best gaming LCD Flat Panel. I don't ever recomend LCD projections. If the bulb goes out it's another $200!

Samsung is by far your best shot for gaming TVS. Also for your computer. I have my computer hooked up to mine.

I sell TV for a living, so if you have ne questions PM me. I would be happy to help.

-Nick-

vpkb1998
12-13-2006, 12:08 AM
rear projection isnt very great...

ours says HDTV on it but thats a loose interpretation i think.

i've had my 50'' Samsung DLP tv for over 3 years now, it is a true HDTV and the picture still looks as good as the day we got it

we also have a 32" Samsung LCD, they're both great

with much comparisons, Samsung was the best at the store

Sony was the best 10 years ago, now, they're just an overpriced TV brand

Randy Savage
12-13-2006, 12:10 AM
I am considering the 4051, but I really don't want to spend more then $1200...hell I don't want to spend more then $1000, but I know that's going to be hard to do.

I'm really leaning towards the Sony at this point...I can pick up the 46", with the Harmony remote, for $1150 to my door, from an authorized dealer. I can also add 3 years of bulb replacement for around $75 extra.

btnhfan
12-13-2006, 12:12 AM
http://www.tvauthority.com/DLP-TV-HDTV/Samsung-HL-S4666W.asp


Id go with this one.

Ive been researching for a while, and I think its the one Im gonna get.



edit wrong link

I meant the 46 not 42

surftb15
12-13-2006, 12:17 AM
yea i also prefer DLP over LCD.

surftb15
12-13-2006, 12:18 AM
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/837/dlp-vs-lcd.html

go there for DLP VS LCD. Not only is DLP cheaper, has better picture quality. If you need flat panel though, then LCD is the way to go

Randy Savage
12-13-2006, 12:33 AM
Hrm. I really didn't pay much attention to DLP's.

Gonna have to look into them as well.

rtillaree
12-13-2006, 12:34 AM
sorry thats actually what i have...also prefer the DLP

btnhfan
12-13-2006, 01:00 AM
Its only like 13" deep.

They also make a slim version, thats about 200 more. It looks a little better too imo. In terms of the casing and exterior, not the pq. And its about 10"

http://www.tvauthority.com/DLP-TV-HDTV/Samsung-HL-S4676S.asp

btnhfan
12-13-2006, 01:01 AM
One more link to the slim version.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/29/samsung-hl-s4676s-slimdlp-hands-on/

Randy Savage
12-13-2006, 01:07 AM
Its only like 13" deep.

They also make a slim version, thats about 200 more. It looks a little better too imo. In terms of the casing and exterior, not the pq. And its about 10"

http://www.tvauthority.com/DLP-TV-HDTV/Samsung-HL-S4676S.asp

The depth really isn't a concern at all.

I'm reading up on that Samsung 4666W and it seems like a really good TV. Vanns has it for $1100 with free shipping and the Harmony remote, seems like a good deal.

From what I've been reading on various AV and Xbox360 forums, DLP seems like the way to go.

btnhfan
12-13-2006, 01:12 AM
Yea thats what I found out too for the most part.

The 42" in that series has had very serious problems, but there have been none for the 46".


I really like the look of the slim version. I hope to pick it up after christmas.

vpkb1998
12-13-2006, 01:47 AM
Samsung is the best in DLP, i got mine when DLP first came out, a 50" was almost $5000.00

over 3 years later, the bulb has not burned out once

youngcoke
12-13-2006, 08:48 AM
hey cant go wrong with a samsung
ijust got a brand new 42'' samsung and it looks .
i decided to get samsung because my previous samsung has been working for 11 years and still working with out any problems

Randy Savage
12-13-2006, 01:38 PM
Been reading up on the Sammy DLP and it looks like I may go with that one.

Going to head down to a few local places and see if they have them on display.

btnhfan
12-13-2006, 04:20 PM
I think Best Buy usually has it out.

surftb15
12-13-2006, 08:59 PM
the samsungs are good because you dont have so much of a "RAINBOW" effect as in different TV's. They also have a good color wheel on them and the blacks are very well defined.

Randy Savage
12-14-2006, 08:46 PM
w00t got about $3000 today from my car insurance co. for my lost wages due to my car accident.

Probably going to head down to BB or PC Richards (local B&M around here) and check out the Samsung 4666w.

surftb15
12-14-2006, 09:32 PM
congrats man. When you observe the TV, watch it for a good 20 minutes or so. The one drawback to DLP TV's (which is becoming less and less prevelent and doesnt compare to the drawbacks in LCD TV's) is the rainbow effect. Because of the way DLP projects the image, some people end up seeing small rainbows in the picture. Again, this mostly depends on the TV itself and the person viewing it. In some scenes, certain viewers see rainbows while others do not. If you end up seeing what im talking about, then look at another equivilant tv and you may not even have the same problem their. With the new samsung line, the companies over on the avs forums for rainbow effect is minimal, if at all.

now you may think im crazy, but its the truth. Either way, DLP tv's are superior to LCD TV's and i hate that "pixel" effect.

Randy Savage
12-14-2006, 09:36 PM
congrats man. When you observe the TV, watch it for a good 20 minutes or so. The one drawback to DLP TV's (which is becoming less and less prevelent and doesnt compare to the drawbacks in LCD TV's) is the rainbow effect. Because of the way DLP projects the image, some people end up seeing small rainbows in the picture. Again, this mostly depends on the TV itself and the person viewing it. In some scenes, certain viewers see rainbows while others do not. If you end up seeing what im talking about, then look at another equivilant tv and you may not even have the same problem their. With the new samsung line, the companies over on the avs forums for rainbow effect is minimal, if at all.

now you may think im crazy, but its the truth. Either way, DLP tv's are superior to LCD TV's and i hate that "pixel" effect.

I remember when I was working at CC I checked out the Samsung DLP's, which were the '05 models, and the rainbow effect really wasn't of any significance.

surftb15
12-14-2006, 09:49 PM
then go for it man, that is an excellent screen and has a beautiful picture. I just mentioned that to you to make sure, because i wouldnt want you to bring something home you wouldnt like and see rainbows in. now i sound like a salesmen!

surftb15
12-14-2006, 10:13 PM
also be sure to get some pics once when yo get it. Did you ever hear of that samsung DLP with LED's??

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLS5679WXXAA.asp

1loudsuv
12-14-2006, 10:19 PM
also be sure to get some pics once when yo get it. Did you ever hear of that samsung DLP with LED's??

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLS5679WXXAA.asp

definatly post pictures!!!

btnhfan
12-14-2006, 11:30 PM
I think they cost a ton more money.

NMBR1SPT
12-14-2006, 11:32 PM
I have a 61" samsung 1080p dlp, gotta be the baddest TV...... next to my projector...

surftb15
12-14-2006, 11:33 PM
i wonder how different each is head to head? DLP VD DLP LED?

Randy Savage
12-14-2006, 11:39 PM
The LED is around $3000+, little bit too much for me lol.

surftb15
12-14-2006, 11:43 PM
HAHHAHAHA gosh ****, thats nuts!!!!! I wonder how much of a difference it makes in picture though? also, its still a very new technology so it will need some refining before it gets to the point DLP is now.

vpkb1998
12-15-2006, 01:45 AM
congrats man. When you observe the TV, watch it for a good 20 minutes or so. The one drawback to DLP TV's (which is becoming less and less prevelent and doesnt compare to the drawbacks in LCD TV's) is the rainbow effect. Because of the way DLP projects the image, some people end up seeing small rainbows in the picture. Again, this mostly depends on the TV itself and the person viewing it. In some scenes, certain viewers see rainbows while others do not. If you end up seeing what im talking about, then look at another equivilant tv and you may not even have the same problem their. With the new samsung line, the companies over on the avs forums for rainbow effect is minimal, if at all.

now you may think im crazy, but its the truth. Either way, DLP tv's are superior to LCD TV's and i hate that "pixel" effect.

you're suppose to blink often when watching the tv

i got the first gen DLP, still happy

Calikid
12-15-2006, 01:50 AM
I have a 61" samsung 1080p dlp, gotta be the baddest TV...... next to my projector...

wow, u r a lucky *** motherhuger, :bowdown:

surftb15
12-15-2006, 05:47 PM
you're suppose to blink often when watching the tv

i got the first gen DLP, still happy

really??????????? didnt know that. Do you see rainbows at certain times?

vpkb1998
12-15-2006, 07:24 PM
really??????????? didnt know that. Do you see rainbows at certain times?



nope

btnhfan
12-15-2006, 07:57 PM
Yea these Sammys dont seem to have that problem that others sometimes do.

Randy Savage
12-15-2006, 09:09 PM
Waiting for the checks to clear my account....grrrrr.

Went to 2 different PC Richard stores to check out the Samsung...they had the Sony 42E2000 for $875, which is a helluva deal...but after checking out the TV's, 42" just isn't big enough...definitely want to go with the 46".

The Samsung looked pretty nice, although the feed ******- HD split a bunch of times through component input, but still looked pretty impressive compared to the other sets there.

It was right next to the Sony 46E2000, which was great since those are the 2 TV's I'm considering, and the Samsungs picture was a little better looking, although I have no idea what either sets settings were.

surftb15
12-15-2006, 11:20 PM
make sure to get one of these-
http://www.calibration-direct.com/monitorcal.html

Randy Savage
12-15-2006, 11:23 PM
Yeah, was going to rent that and the Digital Video Essentials DVD's, both are available from Blockbuster Online, which I have.

surftb15
12-15-2006, 11:25 PM
oh no way? i didnt know that, those help a lot with the picture. I just posted edited another link

Randy Savage
12-17-2006, 03:37 PM
Ugh.

Hopefully tomorrow enough clears so I can order my g'**** TV.

btnhfan
12-17-2006, 03:49 PM
Man where are these checks from?

pimpedout97x
12-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Dont get a philips/magnavox.

Randy Savage
12-17-2006, 04:04 PM
Man where are these checks from?

They are out of state.

I had like $15 in my account, so nothing cleared right away.

Usually takes a week for out of state checks to fully clear for me..

Randy Savage
12-18-2006, 12:08 PM
I'm considering the Samsung HL-S5086W as well..

Vann's sells the 4666W for $1100 with free shipping and a free Harmony 659 remote, while Amazon sells the 5086W for $1160 with free shipping. Both are authorized Samsung dealers...

btnhfan
12-18-2006, 04:19 PM
If I had the room Id go for the 50"

bikejunkie223
12-18-2006, 04:36 PM
I'd go with the Panasonic TH 42-px60U plasma- you can find them for $1400 with a $200 rebate all over the place- awesome tv- highly rated

Paddywad
12-18-2006, 04:48 PM
It's all about the mirrors! I have a 52" RCA Scenium w/ DLP, have had it now close to 4 years, now problems at all. Excellent picture as well.

Randy Savage
12-18-2006, 09:31 PM
I'd go with the Panasonic TH 42-px60U plasma- you can find them for $1400 with a $200 rebate all over the place- awesome tv- highly rated

Don't want a Plasma.

99StangGt
12-19-2006, 12:35 AM
Why not a plasma? I love the panasonic. Got mine from BB for 999, Took back a LCD for it and I wouldnt go back. Guess if I was a gamer I would look else where. Best picture I have seen are the HD tubes but they take up a lot off room. I also have a JVC 32" HDTV. Thats the game tv.

springy101
12-19-2006, 12:56 AM
I'd go with the Panasonic TH 42-px60U plasma- you can find them for $1400 with a $200 rebate all over the place- awesome tv- highly rated

i also have that tv and i think its great.

Randy Savage
12-19-2006, 02:49 PM
I don't feel like 'breaking in' the TV for 100+ hours to reduce burn in/image retention...plus, I tend to leave a movie on and fall asleep, which causes the movie to go to the main menu when it's over, so it'll sit on the main menu for ~8 hrs or so. I also sometimes leave movies/games paused for a couple hours every now and then...

Randy Savage
12-19-2006, 05:35 PM
I'm about 90% on buying the HL-S5086W over the HL-S4666W- they are just about the same size and weight, but for $60 more I get the 4 extra inches of screen.

I'm just going to pick up a cheap learning remote, probably the Sony RM-VL600. It would be nice to have the Harmony, but the Sony I'm sure will suffice.

Not enough has cleared yet, usually it takes ~5 days for checks to fully clear for me, hopefully either tomorrow or Thursday it has all cleared so I can order my **** TV already :)

MikeofTulsa
12-19-2006, 07:27 PM
i have the harmony remote and i love it.

97cavy
12-19-2006, 07:42 PM
I have the samsung 5065 (last years model of the one you are looking at) and its sick

I did ALOT of research when shopping for a TV, both hours online reading reviews, and actually sitting in the stores watching different TV's

I spent a good amount of time watching finding nemo on the samsung, and i think that is what settled it for me.

Best TV i found in the price range (and at that time they were like $1700)

WulfComp
12-19-2006, 07:58 PM
Right now I think the best set out there for 1080p would be JVC LT46FN97 46" if you are looking into that size
It handles the darker scenes way better than samsung and I feel is better that the sony. A buddy of mine just got their 61" version just for the Gears of War game. He spent TWO MONTHS looking at tv's before he bought this one. I have to say it was just mind blowing to watch that game in HD.

Randy Savage
12-19-2006, 08:12 PM
Don't want to pay the extra $$ for 1080p.

97cavy
12-19-2006, 08:18 PM
Yeah, honestly, there are VERY few places that offer a true 1080p source ( I believe HD dvd and blu ray)

I know my cable box outputs in 1080i (i think so atleast, i'll have to check for sure)

My 720 tv is all i need for now, the PQ is sick

Randy Savage
12-19-2006, 08:22 PM
Exactly...only thing I'd use 1080p for would be to add the hd-dvd to the 360 and play hd movies, which I'm not going to do anytime soon. Cable here is broadcast in 720p.

97cavy
12-19-2006, 08:24 PM
Exactly...only thing I'd use 1080p for would be to add the hd-dvd to the 360 and play hd movies, which I'm not going to do anytime soon. Cable here is broadcast in 720p.

Its about 50/50 here, some is still in 480! the rest is 720, and i think i have 21 channels of 1080

97cavy
12-19-2006, 08:25 PM
And even though i have a 720 tv, i can CLEARLY tell the difference between 720 and 1080

explorer2
12-19-2006, 08:30 PM
I'm about 90% on buying the HL-S5086W over the HL-S4666W- they are just about the same size and weight, but for $60 more I get the 4 extra inches of screen.

I'm just going to pick up a cheap learning remote, probably the Sony RM-VL600. It would be nice to have the Harmony, but the Sony I'm sure will suffice.

Not enough has cleared yet, usually it takes ~5 days for checks to fully clear for me, hopefully either tomorrow or Thursday it has all cleared so I can order my **** TV already :)

I got a harmony for my bedroom on amazon, for $50 its their lowest model but it does everything the same as the others with less buttons and without a color screen.

Randy Savage
12-20-2006, 07:46 PM
Money still hasn't cleared...better clear by Friday...:(

surftb15
12-20-2006, 07:47 PM
man thats too bad, im getting anxious here!

Randy Savage
12-20-2006, 07:48 PM
Lol, you're getting anxious???


:)

surftb15
12-20-2006, 08:03 PM
well yea, i want to see what you end up finally going with and pics.

is that so bad?

surftb15
12-20-2006, 08:03 PM
Lol, you're getting anxious???


:)

yea i could imagine how anxious you are as well.

Randy Savage
12-20-2006, 08:05 PM
Dude I hate waiting lol :(

I'm like 95% set on the 5086

surftb15
12-20-2006, 08:08 PM
thats gonna be very nice man, usually your bank can verify funds on non-personal checks

97cavy
12-20-2006, 08:24 PM
I dunno if you have Time Warner down in LI but they just added like 4 more additional HD channels today

Randy Savage
12-20-2006, 08:26 PM
I dunno if you have Time Warner down in LI but they just added like 4 more additional HD channels today


Nope, got Cablevision.

1loudsuv
12-21-2006, 12:00 AM
whatever you get make sure you get some kind of hd source to really make it shine. and dont forget the pictures and god dang it i think im more anxious then you are LOL

im just waiting for tax returns to buy my new towers and center channel and you dont even know how many hours i spend just imagining i already have them lol

bikejunkie223
12-21-2006, 12:21 AM
I can't say burn-in is impossible, but with modern plasmas is pretty unlikely, but if you don't want one that's fine- it's your room. 1080p right now is a joke anyway. Basically according to Hometheater magazine if you have a screen smaller than 50" or sit farther than 8 ft away your eye can't resolve all the extra detail anyway. The other part is that only about 20% of the 1080p screens of any type currently on the market will actually accept a 1080p signal. Most take that signal, deinterlace it to 1080i or 720p, and then upconvert it to 1080p. Pretty goddam stupid if you ask me. For games I'd probably lean toward an LCD or DLp, except plasmas just have better black levels, less motion blur, and generally a better picture for less cash, but the burn in issue is something to consider- nobody can really say if it still happens anymore- just a lot of myths and people who heard this or that.

surftb15
12-21-2006, 10:21 AM
actually DLP's have the best blacks and i dont know how you are comparing the price of DLP's to Plasma. DLP's are more affordable and have a better all around picture.

vpkb1998
12-21-2006, 07:55 PM
LCD's and Plasma will burn in, DLP wont

heyman421
12-21-2006, 08:01 PM
there's so many different version of DLP, that it really depends on the set

there's 4,6,8 segment colorwheels
1x,2x,4x,6x wheelspeeds
units with seperate red, blue, and green chips
and all sorts of improvements such as darkchip

you'd really have to see the actual set itself, there's good and bad DLP televisions and projectors

and is there even a 1080 native resolution DLP chip yet?

last time i looked (i'll admit it's been a few months) WXGA was the closest TI had gotten, and DLP sets claiming 1080P were actually WXGA chips (which is admittedly very close) but i'd take a true 720P native resolution set over a WXGA native resolution set any day. I personally see very little difference between 720P and 1080i, haven't seen 1080P anywhere other than the blueray demo at best buy, which looked like ***, but i KNOW the set wasn't set up right.

bikejunkie223
12-22-2006, 12:48 AM
actually DLP's have the best blacks and i dont know how you are comparing the price of DLP's to Plasma. DLP's are more affordable and have a better all around picture.

I disagree with a lot of what you said. CRT's have the best blacks by far,and depending on the TV plasma and Dlp are close, but the Panasonic th42px60u has the lowest black levels Home theater magazine has ever tested out of a flat screen, and the only things better were a few crt's and full-on projectors. Plasmas have also dropped in price to the point they are highly competitive price-wise with Dlp in the most important market segment (42-50") So more affordable isn't really accurate- I agree as you progress above 50" in screen size plasma cannot compete with Dlp in cost per inch. I also disagree that Dlp's have a better picture. They suffer from several of the drawbacks of LCD- screen glare, off-axis color dropoff, sensitive to veiwing height, and some people can see rainbows on color wheel sets (I cannot but my wife can) I really have nothing against Dlps- I nearly bought one but just prefer the viewing angle and better picture quality of the Panasonic plasma over the Sony 50" SXRD set I was comparing it too (and the SXRD was $800 more expensive) Not trying to start a pissing match, I just disagree and this is why.

LCD's and Plasma will burn in, DLP wont

Modern LCD by design cannot burn in, Plasma and Dlp can but it is highly unlikely unless you really make zero effort to avoid it (burn in) Plasmas and LCD's will somtimes have short term image retention- but this is easily reversable and a normal condition. This is what makes LCD's so popular for computer use and video gamers.

heyman421
12-22-2006, 10:38 AM
alot of people forget that rear projection tv's can ALL burn in, since the screen itself can burn

think of a big screen arcade game with the words "insert coin" burned into the screen itself

heyman421
12-22-2006, 10:40 AM
WXGA is 720p (1280x720) which is nowhere near 1080p (1920x1080, also known as WUXGA) ...

in that case, i'm all the more interested to know if a true 1080 native dlp chip exists

i did some googling last night, and couldn't find a definitive answer

bikejunkie223
12-22-2006, 11:06 AM
There are a few sets that will do a pixel for pixel 1080p input but they are rare and expensive, and I'm not sure if any are Dlp- I know very few 1080p sets even accept a 1080p input.

1loudsuv
12-22-2006, 12:18 PM
anyone else think its weird his check is taking to long to clear? dam its almost been 7 days!!!!!

ive deposited 4-5,000 checks and it is usually in, in no more then 3 bussiness days. he money should of been available on monday morning!

Randy Savage
12-22-2006, 12:21 PM
It's all available now, just called the bank this morning and it finally cleared.

Probably going to order the Sammy HL-S5086W today, and pick up some cables from Monoprice and some sort of surge supressor/UPS.

DBfan187
12-22-2006, 03:09 PM
Dont get a philips/magnavox.I just bought a Magnavox 42" Plasma for $867 after tax. :woot:

reg price was $997 @ Home Depot. I used my moms 20% off coupon.

Randy Savage
12-22-2006, 04:24 PM
Just ordered me a Samsung HL-S5086W.


:)

1loudsuv
12-22-2006, 06:46 PM
Just ordered me a Samsung HL-S5086W.


:)

heh i thought you didnt want 1080p :yumyum: :p:

how much you end up paying for yours? man after all this time waiting for the check to clear if i were you i would of went to the store and paid more i am so impatient lol


dont forget to post pix!

surftb15
12-22-2006, 09:30 PM
congrats man, about time. Make sure to get a calibration CD and youre set

Randy Savage
12-22-2006, 11:01 PM
heh i thought you didnt want 1080p :yumyum: :p:

how much you end up paying for yours? man after all this time waiting for the check to clear if i were you i would of went to the store and paid more i am so impatient lol


dont forget to post pix!

The 5086 is 720p, the 5087 is 1080p- there's a good ~$300 difference between the 2, which I couldn't justify at this point in time, with the very little that is available in 1080p.

It came to $1160 shipped from Amazon, which was the cheapest I could find the TV from an authorized dealer.

All local places have the set at $1400-1600, and from what I've been told, will not pricematch Amazon.

surftb15
12-22-2006, 11:03 PM
are there any smaller dealers around you that would have it? they usally work with prices more and you can negotiate as well.

Randy Savage
12-22-2006, 11:10 PM
are there any smaller dealers around you that would have it? they usally work with prices more and you can negotiate as well.

The only smaller dealer here I don't like shopping with- they advertise at above MSRP, but you can talk them down a bit. However, they are like hounds when you go in there, they jump all over you. Plus, they pretty much abolished their return policy on larger TV's.

surftb15
12-22-2006, 11:12 PM
****. There is a good place near me that offers good prices in advertisments and you can negotiate down a lot. However, the salesmen dont have a clue on certain aspects of tv's, so it gets very annoying.

thats too bad with the people near you, but the samsung is a good choice for that price. DLP is always the way to go

Randy Savage
12-22-2006, 11:15 PM
Yeah...only downside is that it's estimated to arrive Jan 4-10th, hopefully the 4th for me :)

Also bought all the necessary cables from Monoprice- picked up an HDMI-DVI cable to go from cable box (HD box here only has DVI) to TV, and component to go from DVD player to TV.

Probably going to upgrade to an upconverting DVD player in the near future- the Oppo units get high praise on AVS, been looking at those.

Going to get to Target and pick up this stand sometime next week most likely:

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=huc_ic_2_txt/602-1514961-4655011?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000JFF92K&nodeID=&merchantID=A1VC38T7YXB528

surftb15
12-22-2006, 11:19 PM
thats awesome you can use an HDMI cable. Here we have the HDMI on the reciever box, but it doesnt work with Comcast for some reason. They state "its not activated" so we run component videos.

Randy Savage
12-22-2006, 11:20 PM
That *****- a lot of people say they prefer component on their cable box over at AVS though, so who knows.

I'm going to see how both component and hdmi-dvi look on the cable box.

surftb15
12-22-2006, 11:23 PM
well of course HDMI would look better. You would get less signal noise transmitted and a better format throughout.

bikejunkie223
12-23-2006, 02:16 AM
There was a noticable difference on my Comcast HD box between DVI to HDMI and component video (I have both hooked up so I can flip back and forth) I just hate there is no locking mechanism for the HDMI cable- it doesn't seem real secure to me, but I guess it hasn't fallen out in the last 2 weeks so it's probably fine.

springy101
12-23-2006, 02:32 AM
There was a noticable difference on my Comcast HD box between DVI to HDMI and component video (I have both hooked up so I can flip back and forth) I just hate there is no locking mechanism for the HDMI cable- it doesn't seem real secure to me, but I guess it hasn't fallen out in the last 2 weeks so it's probably fine.

there is no locking mechanism? on my tv i think the inputs hang upside down, wonder if ill have problems

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 01:21 PM
Amazon doesn't like my CC or my bank acct apparently, they keep denying either of them. I used my CC yesterday and spent about $400, so there's no problem with it...and I just got off the phone with the bank, I have more then enough available funds.

Amazon=gay.

97cavy
12-23-2006, 01:45 PM
Amazon doesn't like my CC or my bank acct apparently, they keep denying either of them. I used my CC yesterday and spent about $400, so there's no problem with it...and I just got off the phone with the bank, I have more then enough available funds.

Amazon=gay.

My bank wont do any purchases over $600 on my debit card unless you call them and give them the heads up. Are you just asking for a balance, or telling them about the problem?

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 01:46 PM
It's all automated. I've made large purchases before, biggest one was IIRC $1300, no problem with it.

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 01:47 PM
I put in my CC # differently this last time, did xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx instead of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, did it about 5 minutes ago, they haven't declined it yet, so we shall see.

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 02:04 PM
Still haven't declined it...first buncha times it declined it within minutes of me submitting it...been like 20 minutes now ::keeps fingers crossed::

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 02:42 PM
Well it was in fact my limit...I guess when I got my new CC a few months ago my limit went back to default or something...anyway, increased the limit, and going to place the order again in a few minutes.

Also, Amazon has free supersaving shipping, which takes a little longer then standard...but they also have free standard shipping, so I should get it no later then the 4th.

ngsm13
12-23-2006, 02:52 PM
*******.

nG

ngsm13
12-23-2006, 02:59 PM
Yeah...only downside is that it's estimated to arrive Jan 4-10th, hopefully the 4th for me :)

Also bought all the necessary cables from Monoprice- picked up an HDMI-DVI cable to go from cable box (HD box here only has DVI) to TV, and component to go from DVD player to TV.

Probably going to upgrade to an upconverting DVD player in the near future- the Oppo units get high praise on AVS, been looking at those.

Going to get to Target and pick up this stand sometime next week most likely:

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref=huc_ic_2_txt/602-1514961-4655011?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B000JFF92K&nodeID=&merchantID=A1VC38T7YXB528

Don't get the OPPO. I was going to, then decided not to... might as well get the HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox360.

If you get the add-on and VGA cables, it will upconvert your regular DVD's, AND you'll have HD-DVD... for like $30-50 more.

I was torn b/w the two at first... but then it was a no-brainer. ;)

nG

heyman421
12-23-2006, 03:12 PM
i remember when dvd's first came out, and everyone used their ps2's to watch movies.

so inconvenient

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 03:32 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about just going the HD-DVD add on route...for the time being I'm going to stick with my regular DVD player.

Right now the TV is said to be delivered either Jan 3rd or 4th. As soon as it's set up I'll have pictures for you guys :)

TooLowTooGo
12-23-2006, 06:38 PM
great tv, never have n e issue calls about this model.

I kinda like the HLS 4676 myself tho. 10" deep, o yummy! lol.

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 06:57 PM
great tv, never have n e issue calls about this model.

I kinda like the HLS 4676 myself tho. 10" deep, o yummy! lol.


Yeah, originally I looked at the 4666W, then I saw the 4676S, but that actually would have cost more then the 5086W.

heyman421
12-23-2006, 06:59 PM
i went to bb today to look at the tv's, and $ for $, the dlp's, whether 720p or 1080p are hands down the way to go

and i can't believe how affordable the 50" tv's are!!!

that should be a nice set, if i didn't live in the ****ing ghetto, i'd probably get something similar

TooLowTooGo
12-23-2006, 07:21 PM
Yeah, originally I looked at the 4666W, then I saw the 4676S, but that actually would have cost more then the 5086W.

yeah but the 66 series is a 2005 casing. who wants that nasty thing u know ;) lol.

The 4676 was on sale the other day at CC for 1200. Not sure what u payed for the 86 but im assuming prolly a g or so right?
What I like about the 76 is not only the slimness of the unit but its almost half the weight and the casing aroun the the screen is actualy alittle slimer aswell (more tv then plastic:)) lol. The connection being on the side is a nice touch too. no more crawling behind the unit.

Ull be happy with the 86 series tho, Like I said no complaints. 87s series seem to keep coming out the factory with defective ballasts or just a bad bulb:rolleyes:

heyman421
12-23-2006, 07:30 PM
the 4676 was only $50 cheaper, i think he did alright with the 50"

Randy Savage
12-23-2006, 07:35 PM
the 4676 was only $50 cheaper, i think he did alright with the 50"


But the 76 doesn't have free shipping, the 50" did. The 4676 would have been ~$40 more IIRC.