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rpfuror
12-10-2006, 07:34 PM
Another build for a forum member based on kickers box specs tuned to 34Hz.

3d Drawing:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0255a.jpg

Wood Cutts:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0255.jpg

Box Start w/ clamps:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0256.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0257.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0259.jpg

Back Sides and Face with driver cutts:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0260.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0261.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0262.jpg

rpfuror
12-10-2006, 07:36 PM
Next:

Box without top:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0270.jpg

Ports:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0271.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0272.jpg

Complete Box:

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0273.jpg

I justt happed to have the same Driver, so why not test it;)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/rpfuror/DSC_0276.jpg

rpfuror:)

jd_man_90
12-10-2006, 08:29 PM
That's a pretty good lookin box, I like that you fill all the screw holes.

dkmesa
12-10-2006, 09:19 PM
Looks great.

Immacomputer
12-10-2006, 09:47 PM
Ghetto *** sub cutouts for an enclosure you're selling. The cuts look pretty burned as well. The final product looks decent though.

baseballer1100
12-10-2006, 09:50 PM
Ghetto *** sub cutouts for an enclosure you're selling. The cuts look pretty burned as well. The final product looks decent though.

:word:

mendon99
12-11-2006, 08:03 AM
this for a guy off maxima.org?

rpfuror
12-11-2006, 08:18 AM
yeap, I'm not selling it hes just paying for the supplies.

also, whats the difference if the wood cutts aren't "pretty" and the holes are "ghetto"? If the box it build and sealed correctly there is will be 100% nothing wrong with it.

;)

Immacomputer
12-11-2006, 11:16 AM
yeap, I'm not selling it hes just paying for the supplies.

also, whats the difference if the wood cutts aren't "pretty" and the holes are "ghetto"? If the box it build and sealed correctly there is will be 100% nothing wrong with it.

;)
Well if he is just paying for supplies then there is nothing wrong with ghetto holes and burned cuts as long as the enclosure works.

Functionality is not the only thing that goes into a product. Would you buy a brand new car with chips in the paint and dents in the body work? The car still functions and will run 100%...

But even with that said, there really is no excuse for not having a decent sub cutout when the **** thing is square. I can understand making an awkward circle cut but a square? Come on man..

rpfuror
12-11-2006, 12:43 PM
It started as a 12.2" circle and was cut with a jig saw to fit the solos square, although they are not pretty, they are fit the sub like a glove.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all, was just questioning why it would make a difference.


Functionality is not the only thing that goes into a product. Would you buy a brand new car with chips in the paint and dents in the body work? The car still functions and will run 100%...


In this scenario, of course I would buy a car for the cost of the parts if it functions %100.

Most companies have exactly the opposite approach; they can make a product look pretty, but not function to spec.

saywhat?
12-11-2006, 12:47 PM
i dont see why its such a big deal...most likely its getting carpet anyways....

rpfuror
12-11-2006, 12:56 PM
LOL,

That was going to be my other scenario:

Sure I would pay for the cost of the parts with dents and paint chips if I was planning on covering / buffing / repainting it;)

I’ll make sure for the sake of the forum to build a very pretty box the next time ;)

Immacomputer
12-11-2006, 01:44 PM
LOL,

That was going to be my other scenario:

Sure I would pay for the cost of the parts with dents and paint chips if I was planning on covering / buffing / repainting it;)

Iíll make sure for the sake of the forum to build a very pretty box the next time ;)

I'll say it again: There is nothing wrong with cuts like that if they're just paying for the cost of parts. The car analogy was talking as if somebody was charging for labor as well.

rpfuror
12-11-2006, 02:09 PM
Yea, I got that agin just adding to the converstaion --> "I’ll make sure for the sake of the forum to build a very pretty box the next time" just a little sarcastic;)

mikey060
12-11-2006, 03:28 PM
better be!
:D :uhoh: :laugh:

ssj2xxgotenxx
12-11-2006, 06:19 PM
How does wood get burned anyhow? Is it because of the saw speed?

Immacomputer
12-11-2006, 07:59 PM
How does wood get burned anyhow? Is it because of the saw speed?

It's from wood getting pressed against the blade after the blade has cut it. If you're using a table saw, it can be caused by pushing on the wood towards the arm too hard to keep it flush.

PowerNaudio
12-11-2006, 08:12 PM
a dull blade producing more heat then a cut. will cause the burns as well.

but the box look decent. and burns dont cause any issues, that i know of. if you care to elaborate,that would be very instructional of you.


as far as the cuts yeah i would be a little more carefully of how clean the cuts come out. since thats a great part of the build.
but again other then that the enclosure looks very good.

bjfish11
12-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Typically, burns will come if the panel is not held tightly up agains the rip fence. ie. Not a square cut. Because the blade is no longer cutting it with its teeth, its basically rubbing against it, producing a black mark. So the burn doesnt effect anything, but it could show that the panels are not square. Now THAT is a problem.

PowerNaudio
12-11-2006, 09:01 PM
if that is indeed the case, yes that will be a problem if the unsquare cut is by a margin great enoght to actualy cause the panels to not seal by not lining up properly against each other.
but im seeing that as more a danger to his self, then to the enclosure, if by rubbing the actual piece like that while his cutting to the blade can get the piece of wood locked on blade and send it flying back to him. by angeling the panel to the point of rubbing against the blade instead of cutting.

but i see your point. i personally haven't had that issue. when ever i get a burn is because my blade is getting dull and its time to change it. a quick swap of blades takes care of that particular issues.

Immacomputer
12-11-2006, 09:16 PM
I doubt the burns have an effect on the wood bonding but I was mainly speaking for aesthetic purposes.

bjfish11
12-11-2006, 09:25 PM
If you dont have square edges, your going to lose usuable surface area for your joints when glued. Either that, or you will not have a square box.

rpfuror
12-12-2006, 02:39 PM
It's from wood getting pressed against the blade after the blade has cut it. If you're using a table saw, it can be caused by pushing on the wood towards the arm too hard to keep it flush.

This is pretty much what caused it in this case.

Actually 2 fold..

This was the first time I used the table saw in a long time and most of cutts I ended up straighting half way thru do to bad cutts for Home Depot.

The marks you see are from the surface area of the blade having contact with the wood for to long while I was making sure the wood was straight agaist the guide.

Lakota
12-12-2006, 02:54 PM
IMO it's good enough. I don't understand why people want to jump on the bandwagon and start hating on your work. I'm sure that the mistakes you've made were already obvious to you before you made the thread; it's not like you need to be told twice.

lilmaniac2
12-12-2006, 03:04 PM
thats what a belt sander or a da is for :)

AlpineUser
12-12-2006, 05:41 PM
immacomputer comment my finished box now that i have pix and immacomputer is always perfect and right lol

PV Audio
12-12-2006, 09:49 PM
Immacomputer, it's fine. Pocket cut squares are FAR more difficult than circles. In this case, if the speaker fits, then it's fine. I honestly couldn't care less how the square looks as long as the sub fits. If it's a circle that's shoddy, then that's a different story.

PV Audio
12-12-2006, 09:51 PM
And also, burn marks are usually caused by dull blades. Invest in a carbide tipped blade, and you shouldn't have to worry about it for a LOOONG time. I used to burn the wood everytime with my circular saw, but never once have burned it with my Bosch carbide blade on the table saw.

LILMAN
12-14-2006, 08:05 PM
What are the measurements of the pieces I gotta Max and have tried to build a dual L7 box for the longest. Show some blueprints.

rpfuror
12-21-2006, 10:42 AM
What are the measurements of the pieces I gotta Max and have tried to build a dual L7 box for the longest. Show some blueprints.

Sorry the forum got buried...

I can give you the dimentions i worked with or just design one to suite your needs.

Let me know.

bigmike8771
12-29-2006, 10:28 PM
ok, i tracked this thread down... FIRST, i 'd like to THANK ryan aka rpfuror, he built the box for me... despite what ive read the box looks freakin great, and it SLAMS... he could build boxes for me anytime, and the roadtrip down to MD wasnt bad either... RYAN THANKS AGAIN, keep up the good work. i'll try to remember to post some pics tomorrow.

PV Audio
12-30-2006, 12:14 AM
What are the measurements of the pieces I gotta Max and have tried to build a dual L7 box for the longest. Show some blueprints.
It's called a custom design because it's custom made for someone. That doesn't mean that he needs, nor should be entitled to post the design up here. Just FYI.

bigmike8771
01-03-2007, 01:36 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/deem8771/Picture007-1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/deem8771/Picture008-1.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/deem8771/Picture010.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/deem8771/Picture006.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i218/deem8771/Picture044-1.jpg

carpet, or paint coming soon, to cold now. but this box is a great improvment from what i had, RPFUROR thanks again man!!!

rpfuror
01-03-2007, 03:09 PM
Thanks man I'm glad you like it.

MAD MAX101
01-03-2007, 11:15 PM
nice box.. what are the demenions??? thanks

bigmike8771
01-04-2007, 07:38 AM
nice box.. what are the demenions??? thanks

if im not mistaken it's 34w-16h-24deep

MAD MAX101
01-04-2007, 09:30 PM
if im not mistaken it's 34w-16h-24deep

is this box 3.25 feet all together or per chamber???

bigmike8771
01-04-2007, 10:35 PM
per chamber