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iamamp3pimp
12-08-2006, 10:01 AM
This one is finished, and the pics from it will be posted shortly

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/iamamp3pimp/Worklogs/Maxima%20SPL/finished2.jpg

Mitch86
12-08-2006, 10:01 AM
Wow, you're a busy beaver.

ultimate157
12-08-2006, 10:24 AM
And a pic teaser.


Birch ... mmmmmm

vetkilr
12-08-2006, 07:46 PM
Kinda looks familiar...........lol

pimpedout97x
12-08-2006, 09:07 PM
lol

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 04:09 AM
as promised...

;)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/iamamp3pimp/Worklogs/Maxima%20SPL/build12-8002.jpg

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iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 04:10 AM
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iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 04:12 AM
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iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 04:13 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/iamamp3pimp/Worklogs/Maxima%20SPL/build12-8037.jpg

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iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 04:14 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/iamamp3pimp/Worklogs/Maxima%20SPL/build12-8049.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/iamamp3pimp/Worklogs/Maxima%20SPL/build12-8048.jpg

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and some more with carpet on as well coming in a day or so

Ford302Redneck
12-09-2006, 04:15 AM
Wow Nice Robin, but why isnt that not surprising?

Great job as usually. Keep up the Great work.

Chevyaudio
12-09-2006, 04:16 AM
Looks nice but two things...Why so much dammn glue? A little bit of titebond/probond goes a long way...and two get a nice counter sink bit if your going to work with birch. Finished product turns out much nicer.

IonSQL
12-09-2006, 09:05 AM
Lookin' great as always dude!

Love how the wood looks like it's floating in air in the first couple of pics :)

Fattony911
12-09-2006, 09:55 AM
whats the deal with birch i see a lot of people using it lately. Is it lighter, it looks like it would flex? I dunno someon teach me.-Alex

QtrHorse
12-09-2006, 10:06 AM
whats the deal with birch i see a lot of people using it lately. Is it lighter, it looks like it would flex? I dunno someon teach me.-Alex


It's lighter and stronger than MDF when compaired to the same size. The good cabinet grade birch is cross hatched which makes it stronger. I'm not sure if that is the cabinet grade birch though. On cabinet grade birch, the top layer of birch is usually at least 1/16-3/64in thick. On the cheaper version (usually at Home Depot or Lowes) it has a top layer that is around 1/32 thick. If you put the two side by side, you can tell the difference.

Very nice box build as usual.

baseballer1100
12-09-2006, 10:29 AM
Looks great how do you cut the squares out so good?

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 10:36 AM
Looks nice but two things...Why so much dammn glue? A little bit of titebond/probond goes a long way...and two get a nice counter sink bit if your going to work with birch. Finished product turns out much nicer.

Countersink i'll keep in mind.....but as far as the amount of glue....

I keep a wet towel handl, then scratch over it with some 80G and the glue is gone.

I like knowing that there is a full bond, between the 2 pieces of wood that i an screwing together.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 10:36 AM
Thanks for the compliments guys.

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 10:42 AM
It's lighter and stronger than MDF when compaired to the same size. The good cabinet grade birch is cross hatched which makes it stronger. I'm not sure if that is the cabinet grade birch though. On cabinet grade birch, the top layer of birch is usually at least 1/16-3/64in thick. On the cheaper version (usually at Home Depot or Lowes) it has a top layer that is around 1/32 thick. If you put the two side by side, you can tell the difference.

Very nice box build as usual.

anything cut down to a size like that and is 3/4 inch thick...is going to be strong. its not much more dense than MDF....if at all really. People want it because its different.

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 10:43 AM
but, nice cuts none the less.

vetkilr
12-09-2006, 11:16 AM
anything cut down to a size like that and is 3/4 inch thick...is going to be strong. its not much more dense than MDF....if at all really. People want it because its different.

And it doesnt flex as much.............its alot stiffer.

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 11:18 AM
And it doesnt flex as much.............its alot stiffer.

lol, anything that at most is 18x30 isnt going to flex a **** ton.....and noone has tested it back to back same enclosure, same sub, same power, so we really dont know what flexes more and what doesnt. .....people want it for the novelty effect, not for the "performance" gain.

angrytrucker78
12-09-2006, 11:22 AM
Looks great how do you cut the squares out so good?

x2

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 11:23 AM
he prolly has a kicker template....trace it and jigsaw it.

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 11:37 AM
It's lighter and stronger than MDF when compaired to the same size. The good cabinet grade birch is cross hatched which makes it stronger. I'm not sure if that is the cabinet grade birch though. On cabinet grade birch, the top layer of birch is usually at least 1/16-3/64in thick. On the cheaper version (usually at Home Depot or Lowes) it has a top layer that is around 1/32 thick. If you put the two side by side, you can tell the difference.

Very nice box build as usual.
No it isn't. MDF is still better for speaker enclosures, especailly sub enclosures. But believe me, pimp already knows that, he just likes the workability :)

azbass
12-09-2006, 11:39 AM
No it isn't. MDF is still better for speaker enclosures, especailly sub enclosures. But believe me, pimp already knows that, he just likes the workability :)

hows them plans coming along?

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 11:45 AM
As in the words of Borat..."Very nice"

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 11:46 AM
No it isn't. MDF is still better for speaker enclosures, especailly sub enclosures. But believe me, pimp already knows that, he just likes the workability :)

i could have sworn someone said this before you in this very thread.....just in diffrent words.

azbass
12-09-2006, 11:46 AM
as long as they have *** with my ear. when they are built.

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 11:47 AM
As in the words of Borat..."Very nice"

that would be "very ni"or "i li i li"

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 11:54 AM
The Jews are back! How much money should we give them!?

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 11:55 AM
as long as they have *** with my ear. when they are built.
I do not guarantee aural intercourse, but whatever is immediately below it :laugh:

pimpedout97x
12-09-2006, 11:58 AM
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/iamamp3pimp/Worklogs/Maxima%20SPL/build12-8008.jpg

hey...thats my tire

theothermike
12-09-2006, 12:01 PM
waaa waaa weeee waaaa, i want to make **** time

with this box of course. sorry robin :D

QtrHorse
12-09-2006, 01:01 PM
No it isn't. MDF is still better for speaker enclosures, especailly sub enclosures. But believe me, pimp already knows that, he just likes the workability :)

I have no scientific study to prove what I stated but ask any real cabinet maker or lumbar house, they will tell you that cabinet grade Birch is stronger and more stiff than MDF. Just call around to a few places on Monday.

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 01:03 PM
I have. I've worked with both, and for speaker enclosures fiberboard is the best overall material to use. Cabinet makers aren't worried about constant resonance as much as a speaker builder.

QtrHorse
12-09-2006, 01:06 PM
I never said one was better for car audio because I have no idea. I'm not a sub box builder/ tuner/ competitor. You stated that I was wrong by saying it was stronger and my statement was true.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:08 PM
he prolly has a kicker template....trace it and jigsaw it.

No Kicker Templates.....I wish i had one

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 01:08 PM
Semantics my man, semantics.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:19 PM
just make it happem they say...

QtrHorse
12-09-2006, 01:24 PM
What does "semantics" have to do w/ you saying a true statement is wrong? Not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill but it would be like me saying your statement about it having less constant resonance is untrue. I'm sure it does but do cabinet makers care about resonance? Just don't say someone is wrong when they are right.

A good example of semantics would be: PV Audio seemed very gay today. Do I mean you seemed very happy or actually homosexual?

Unless you mean we basically agree, then I take back the gay comment.;)

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:27 PM
What does "semantics" have to do w/ you saying a true statement is wrong? Not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill but it would be like me saying your statement about it having less constant resonance is untrue. I'm sure it does but do cabinet makers care about resonance? Just don't say someone is wrong when they are right.

good example of semantics would be: PV Audio seemed very gay today. Do I mean you seemed very happy or actually homosexual?

Unless you mean we basically agree, then I take back the gay comment.;)

Ouch....

kicker06
12-09-2006, 01:27 PM
What is the red 'paint'?

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:32 PM
it is red paint.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:33 PM
I usually spray over the caulk, just to ensure a good seal.

and i was out of black.

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 01:35 PM
What does "semantics" have to do w/ you saying a true statement is wrong? Not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill but it would be like me saying your statement about it having less constant resonance is untrue. I'm sure it does but do cabinet makers care about resonance? Just don't say someone is wrong when they are right.

A good example of semantics would be: PV Audio seemed very gay today. Do I mean you seemed very happy or actually homosexual?

Unless you mean we basically agree, then I take back the gay comment.;)
Okay ********, I didn't realize that I needed to spell it out to you. MDF and birch are two building materials. MDF is used in speaker construction because it is STRONGER FOR SPEAKER CONSTRUCTION. Is that so hard to understand? Plywood's characteristics make it an inferior wood to fiberboard for audio enclosures, THUS making MDF the stronger material for speakers. Now considering this isn't a cabinetry forum, I would have thought that you could have put that together. Guess not.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:36 PM
im still birching my wall.

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 01:39 PM
im still birching my wall.
Yeah I know, we already talked about this topic. :)

Chipping FTL

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:43 PM
only chips when u cut it..

sands away quite easy tho

QtrHorse
12-09-2006, 01:44 PM
PV Audio;

Again, I'm not arguing that fact w/ you. Read my very first statment that you quoted, I never said it was better for audio cabinets. I only named two reasons why someone might use it for making sub boxes.

You said my statment was wrong and it was not. Now your trying to back step by using big words (did you not think anyone else went to college or is reasonably intelligent and would know what the true meaning of that word meant?) and basically saying that I said it was better for audio cabinets and I never said that.

It's not hard for me to understand that MDF is a better material for sub boxes. It must be hard for you to understand that you were wrong by saying I was wrong and I do not take back my gay comment now.

I'll just keep it to PM's after this so not to mess up Pimps work log, sorry Pimp.

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 01:47 PM
PV Audio;

Again, I'm not arguing that fact w/ you. Read my very first statment that you quoted, I never said it was better for audio cabinets. I only named two reasons why someone might use it for making sub boxes.

You said my statment was wrong and it was not. Now your trying to back step by using big words (did you not think anyone else went to college or is reasonably intelligent and would know what the true meaning of that word meant?) and basically saying that I said it was better for audio cabinets and I never said that.

It's not hard for me to understand that MDF is a better material for sub boxes. It must be hard for you to understand that you were wrong by saying I was wrong and I do not take back my gay comment now.
What do you want me to say? You're right? Okay then. QtrHorse, you're right. Happy?

Good lord it wasn't anywhere near a big deal. Oh and I'm very offended that you called my gay over the internet. Very offended indeed :rolleyes:

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 01:48 PM
Pimp, I apologize for crapping in your thread.

QtrHorse
12-09-2006, 01:56 PM
Last off topic post in this thread for me, I promise.


What do you want me to say? You're right? Okay then. QtrHorse, you're right. Happy?

Yes, thank you and I do take back the gay comment. Please accept my most humble apologies.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 01:56 PM
It's all good.

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 02:14 PM
I never said one was better for car audio because I have no idea. I'm not a sub box builder/ tuner/ competitor. You stated that I was wrong by saying it was stronger and my statement was true.

the reason they say birch is better, is not because its stronger, its because the edges dont fray/split as easy as MDF.

pimpedout97x
12-09-2006, 02:16 PM
well i just think it looks cooler.

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 02:18 PM
yah, that it does. if i ever go straight up wood, and not have my spare on top...it will get a dark almost black stain....but i will never do that probably lol.

pimpedout97x
12-09-2006, 02:21 PM
the towers and sub box for my room will be stained birch :D

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 02:24 PM
yah, well i dont have money :( all mine is for florida and building my trucks motor when i come back

mtdewelf
12-09-2006, 02:28 PM
looks great as usual, and as usual another CA thread down the drain

saywhat?
12-09-2006, 02:34 PM
not really...just sparatic moments of conversation within.....


nice box though


see its still on topic.

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 02:41 PM
Danish oil > stain

Brings out the look of the wood beautifully.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 03:16 PM
im still waiting on someone to do a stain writeup...

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 03:30 PM
We need Kent for that most likely.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 03:43 PM
Kent = ?

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 03:43 PM
mrray13?

kicker06
12-09-2006, 05:08 PM
Add a bracket at the end of the 'blacklisted' thing in your sig.

Your welcome.

PV Audio
12-09-2006, 07:35 PM
Yeah mrray is Kent.

iamamp3pimp
12-09-2006, 08:26 PM
Add a bracket at the end of the 'blacklisted' thing in your sig.

Your welcome.

It's a Parenthese

pwnt while pwning.

lol

Immacomputer
12-10-2006, 01:29 AM
im still waiting on someone to do a stain writeup...

Staining isn't difficult to get a nice even finish. It's the polyurethaning that takes the work and experience. The first time I had ever stained anything turned out very nice. When I went to apply the polyurethane, it kind of ghettoed out and I'm sure you have seen the pictures of the fuzzy woodgrain that soaked it all up.

Staining is really just applying it until it looks even and making sure to wipe away excess stain as soon as you can or waiting a day or two for it to cure enough to start laying down the first coat of polyurethane or whatever method you're planing on using for a clear coat.

PV Audio
12-10-2006, 02:59 PM
PU is a mother to apply correctly. I just use spray clear lacquer. 6-8 coats, throw on some carnauba, and you're done.

iamamp3pimp
12-10-2006, 03:10 PM
write it up/

bjfish11
12-10-2006, 03:19 PM
PU is a mother to apply correctly. I just use spray clear lacquer. 6-8 coats, throw on some carnauba, and you're done.

Polyurethene isnt really all that hard to apply. I just got done building a computer desk for my new house. Its a huge oak corner desk that I stained. Just have to apply the poly in very thin coats and lightly sand between coats.
For staining, just wipe it on with a rag, let sit for a few minutes and wipe it all back off. Should be dry to the touch as soon as you are done wiping it back down. If I sell a box someone wants stained, Ill do a write up on it, But I dont have to stain anything so its kind of pointless.

kicker06
12-10-2006, 05:11 PM
It's a Parenthese

pwnt while pwning.

lol

Maybe that's what you Florididians call it...Up here is brackets!

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 05:13 PM
Maybe that's what you Florididians call it...Up here is brackets!

] and } are brackets...

) is a parenthesis

Chevyaudio
12-10-2006, 05:13 PM
[]=brackets
()=Parenthases

Chevyaudio
12-10-2006, 05:13 PM
dammn grant beat me.

kicker06
12-10-2006, 05:18 PM
] and } are brackets...

) is a parenthesis

Must be a southern thing :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh::crap:

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 05:19 PM
no....just proper grammer....

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 05:19 PM
hell...its the same thing in math class too

Kenny Pollock
12-10-2006, 05:20 PM
Maybe that's what you Florididians call it...Up here is brackets!
Parenthesis = ( and )
Brackets = [ and ]




lol, two people beat me

baseballer1100
12-10-2006, 05:23 PM
Southern thing haha.

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 05:26 PM
florida isnt the south :fyi:

baseballer1100
12-10-2006, 05:30 PM
florida isnt the south :fyi:

:word: it was funny how kicker06 was saying that and that parenthesis and brackets were a southern thing...

Chevyaudio
12-10-2006, 05:34 PM
hell...its the same thing in math class too

:word:

in math you cant go interchanging the two, you will fawk up.

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 05:35 PM
any genious would know that...

kicker06
12-10-2006, 05:40 PM
Apparently I'm too dumb for this forum.

iamamp3pimp
12-10-2006, 05:44 PM
Apparently I'm too dumb for this forum.



lmao


thats funny bro........i lolled.

btu i disagree

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 05:48 PM
you just need to know what a bracket is and a parenthesis is lol. it will raise your math scores drastically.

kicker06
12-10-2006, 05:50 PM
you just need to know what a bracket is and a parenthesis is lol. it will raise your math scores drastically.

That's good to know, my math scores ****. (Well there pretty good, but in this case, I'll just say they ****)

Parenthesis...Bracket's...can't we all just get along?

bjfish11
12-10-2006, 05:51 PM
no....just proper grammer....

Grant, its grammAr ;)

kicker06
12-10-2006, 05:52 PM
Grant, its grammAr ;)

wow...

That's what I call a bite in the ***. :pissed:

Immacomputer
12-10-2006, 06:20 PM
:word:

in math you cant go interchanging the two, you will fawk up.

Why not? The only reason for using brackets as well as parentheses in an equation is to keep you from being confused about what values are contained with each group.

PV Audio
12-10-2006, 06:28 PM
:laugh: @ how off track this thread is.

NoLimit
12-10-2006, 06:38 PM
so about this box....

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 06:39 PM
That's good to know, my math scores ****. (Well there pretty good, but in this case, I'll just say they ****)

Parenthesis...Bracket's...can't we all just get along?

simply put......no :)

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 06:40 PM
Grant, its grammAr ;)

bah, thats spelling mistakes, not a grammAr one haha.

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 06:41 PM
Why not? The only reason for using brackets as well as parentheses in an equation is to keep you from being confused about what values are contained with each group.

hence why he said you will fawk up....

if you cant tell what to do at what time.......how do you solve correctly....

Immacomputer
12-10-2006, 06:56 PM
hence why he said you will fawk up....

if you cant tell what to do at what time.......how do you solve correctly....

I was thinking he meant the equations would not work correctly...

Oh, and whoever says Florida is a part of the south has probably only been in the panhandle or has never been to Florida. I was born and raised in Central Florida and could not be more northern. I hate grits and sweet tea. If you're from the south, you know what an abomination that is to say that.

PV Audio
12-10-2006, 06:58 PM
I'm from Indiana and I love grits and sweet tea.

Then again, I am black...

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 06:58 PM
its not the south...by far. ****** fountain water, no sweet tea, no good biscuits, and yankees.......its by far not the south. haha.

saywhat?
12-10-2006, 06:59 PM
I'm from Indiana and I love grits and sweet tea.

Then again, I am black...

well duh! thats a given! lol.

Fattony911
12-10-2006, 07:12 PM
i got a good chuckle reading this whole thread :)

vetkilr
12-10-2006, 07:55 PM
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saywhat?
12-10-2006, 07:56 PM
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iamamp3pimp
12-10-2006, 08:02 PM
I could have told you that

and it really isnt south.

its below south with northern characteristics, and southern weather

vetkilr
12-10-2006, 08:16 PM
actually......the answer is 2

Its was 2 with a remainder of 6:p:

iamamp3pimp
12-10-2006, 09:11 PM
.17

iamamp3pimp
12-10-2006, 09:11 PM
You forgot about the esss quessss