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99StangGt
11-22-2006, 12:09 PM
I bought a 37" lcd and dont really like it. I am thinking of going back to a tube, the sony 34" HD. Whats everyone using? Anything you dont like or problems with what you have used?

btnhfan
11-22-2006, 12:25 PM
What tv do you currently have?

TXST8tj
11-22-2006, 03:05 PM
CRT is a great choice if you don't mind the size/weight.

did you calibrate your LCD? the picture right out of the box is generally not the best. it takes some fine tuning sometimes.
is it hooked up to an HD source?

99StangGt
11-22-2006, 04:34 PM
Its hooked up to comcast hd. I have been tuning it a lot. Picture looks great but sometimes it gets grainy. Its a cheap westinghouse, lol. I got it from best buy but I will be taking it back because friday they have panasonic 42" plasmas on sale for 999.00.

NoLimit
11-22-2006, 04:38 PM
We have a 50" Samsung DLP 1080I HDTV

Its hella nice lookin

reneeb7363
11-22-2006, 08:02 PM
there was another post in here that led me to this web page... maybe this will be helpful to you in finding a good HDTV or other unit...calibrating, etc.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=139

1loudsuv
11-24-2006, 03:58 AM
i used to have a 32" sony sdtv

now a 60" sony xbr1

sd channels look worst but hd are better then my 32" sd channels since it didnt except hd signals

but hd-dvd omfg!!!

i would only trade my tv for the pioneer elite 50" 1080p plasmas wich is 7,999
or a sony pearl front projector

Eugenics
11-24-2006, 05:29 AM
dlp projectors ftmfw

crunktimes.com
11-24-2006, 05:34 PM
If you have comcast make sure you are using components to get your signal. My comcast box has an analog and component output. I switch to the component when I run HD channels and leave it at analog while I run normal channels, the lower normal channels look really bad when I utilize the box using the component which is why they have the option for both.

If your box does not have both call them and tell them your reception through the component cable ***** and you want a dual output one with analog too.


I am running last years Mitsu 52" DLP BTW

keifersracing
11-24-2006, 05:41 PM
64" hitachi

99StangGt
11-24-2006, 09:06 PM
Well I waited in line at best buy and snagged a Panasonic TH-42PX60U plasma. The HD looks great but the Sd could look better. I did hook up analog from my comcast box and it does look better. It looks good enough being I dont watch much SD. The dvd looks great also. I think it was a good deal for 999.00. By the way this set is in my bedroom. I have a 50" older mits in the living room, now I hate to watch it. Guess I am going to have to buck up for a new one.

loud-n-low
11-24-2006, 09:14 PM
sony xbr ftmfw!

ngsm13
11-24-2006, 09:33 PM
37" HD LCD TV...

Got it today for $499... I love it.

nG

heyman421
11-25-2006, 03:46 AM
^^ and the quality differences for SD through the composite vs. component output is going to depend on the quality of the upconverter of the box vs. the upconverter of the television

some cable boxes probably have great quality outputs with all definitions, and most boxes probably have defeatable upconverters, so you can utilize the same outputs, whether it be hdmi or component for all channels SD and HD with or without internal upconversion. this, of course, would require reading the users manual, however, which escapes most people

haunther
11-25-2006, 03:58 AM
I have a Samsung 32'' Hdtv lcd
AN BLUE RAY ****ING OWNS!!!@!!

Lil_KB
11-25-2006, 04:03 AM
51" Sony HDTV CRT....love it.

heyman421
11-25-2006, 04:09 AM
The DVD forum has recently announced it's backing the HD-DVD format rather than bluray, so it looks as if sony has created the beta/superbeta/betacam/minidisc/umd/SACD/PDD all over again, not to mention TDK already has talks of introducing a 6-layer 200gig media, and of course the D-data DMD (formerly called the FMD) which uses the more stable red-laser format, but can hold 1TB per disc, and the Optiware HVD which is actually a holographic media which can store 3.9TB per disc, and already has drives available for professional and medical data storage.

Blu-ray will be another dead sony-only media format.

I don't understand why they always have to have their own incompatible, proprietary format.....

Rochambeau
11-25-2006, 07:18 AM
Sharp 65" (I think) DLP and a 50" Vizio Plasma, both purchased from Costco. I love the picture quality on both. Both being powered by DirecTV HD-DVRs (aka: Tivo) connected by HDMI cables.

My biggest complaint is the scarcity of HD channels on DirecTV but that is supposed to improve in the coming year.

Remember, just like in car audio, a lot depends on your sources and source material.

SAG3
11-25-2006, 07:39 AM
Vizio L32.

Shinobi
11-25-2006, 08:36 AM
50" Samsung Plasma 1080i on the Xbox360 :) I didnt get a 1080P b/c most HDTV isnt even close to 1080P much less full 1080i channels also there is already a newer resolution out thats better then 1080P ;)

heyman421
11-25-2006, 05:23 PM
1080 television and MUSE 1035P laserdiscs have been around since 1991

saywhat?
11-25-2006, 05:26 PM
Vizio L32.

im guessing that is the 32 inch? We just got a Vizio 50 inch, 1080i compatible and all that good stuff.

1loudsuv
11-25-2006, 05:35 PM
I have a Samsung 32'' Hdtv lcd
AN BLUE RAY ****ING OWNS!!!@!!

i can bet money you dont even own a blu ray player. and i bet that youve never seen hd-dvd versus blu ray.


heres some reading for you

www.thedvdwars.com

and even if you do own a blu ray player i doubt you can see the difference with that tiny screen :p:

TooLowTooGo
11-25-2006, 08:42 PM
50" Samsung Plasma 1080i on the Xbox360 :) I didnt get a 1080P b/c most HDTV isnt even close to 1080P much less full 1080i channels also there is already a newer resolution out thats better then 1080P ;)

also none of the 50" samsung plasmas are 1080p anyway
1366x768.

Hustler904
11-26-2006, 01:50 AM
Dell 42 inch plasma,only thing I dont like about it is sometimes some of the black background isnt dard enough,kinda greyish in some spots,but high def channels and football games look amazing

TooLowTooGo
11-26-2006, 01:56 AM
There are always higher resolutions on the way ... It doesn't mean that you're going to be able to see the difference from 6 feet away ...

yep just like some people say there is a huge difference between hdmi and component
**** I cant tell the difference at all 10+ feet away.

heyman421
11-26-2006, 01:59 AM
there's virtually no difference between hdmi and component if it's a single source-to-tv connection

the hdmi's signal degrades if there's multiple connections through a receiver, etc. or if the cable is longer than 5 or 6 feet due to increased loss and noise due to single stranded square cable, and decreased surface area of the interconnects

heyman421
11-26-2006, 02:08 AM
hdmi is NOT digital video, only audio

heyman421
11-26-2006, 02:10 AM
n/m i'm wrong

heyman421
11-26-2006, 02:14 AM
here's the article i was thinking of, tho

it IS DVI and HDMI that degrade faster over time, due to relaxed control over impedance of the line, causing signal reflections

and these DO cause degradation of the signal, visible as 'sparklies' in the picture

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html

Savstyle
11-26-2006, 02:22 AM
52" sony HDTV, gotta love it. Got it for 500 bux:)

heyman421
11-26-2006, 02:26 AM
i've never experimented either

we use hdmi for our dvd player, and component for the cable, and both work equally well

and scart and rgb couple the supposed worst of both technologies, by using analog THROUGH twisted pair opposed to a coax cable, and i've yet to have problems with a computer display looking anything less than perfect, so i guess you can take any criticism with a grain of salt unless you're planning a 50 foot ratsnest behind your entertainment center

bumpin_blazer
11-26-2006, 02:37 AM
by componet video do you mean the 3 end one? the red/blue/green? if so i'm using that on my ps2 right now as i havent finished clearing out my stupid DVR to get my HD DVR :(. i'm hoping next week sometime i shall pick it up to go with the new 55" sony 3lcd that'll do 1080i. :D

TooLowTooGo
11-26-2006, 02:45 AM
by componet video do you mean the 3 end one? the red/blue/green? if so i'm using that on my ps2 right now as i havent finished clearing out my stupid DVR to get my HD DVR :(. i'm hoping next week sometime i shall pick it up to go with the new 55" sony 3lcd that'll do 1080i. :D

yes
component:
red, blue, green, red and white
Composite
yellow, red, white

bumpin_blazer
11-26-2006, 01:58 PM
ah k thanks for that clarification lol. it looks clean on the ps2 to bad it'll only transfer a 480i resolution.

bikejunkie223
11-26-2006, 02:20 PM
Toshiba 30" widescreen CRT- best picture I have seen, just too small, going with a Panny 42 plasma when I have enough jack saved up.

desertheat
11-26-2006, 09:58 PM
I have a year and a half old toshiba 65" hd with hdmi input.. LOVE IT. Even though it is a projection screen, the picture is amazing to me. I picked it out of about 30 wide screens at best buy and loved the picture. Then I saw it was one of the cheaper units *LOL* made it even better, Bought it that same day.. Going to use it until I can get somthing else for a reasonable price in the 65" range that has a mucho better picture which will be pretty hard as it is already great.

Brian Owens
11-26-2006, 11:10 PM
Over the Air antenna, HTPC with a fusion HDTV 5 tuner card, ATI Radeon video card, NEC DLP projector, 120" screen. Love it. . . .

Brian

joetama
11-27-2006, 03:01 AM
Pretty close to getting a Pioneer Elite Plasma.... It's pretty!

Scoobydoo
12-01-2006, 03:46 AM
Just received my 37" Syntax Olevia today. Pretty nice unit for less than $670 shipped

I only have it hooked up with s-video at 480i right now, but I have some component cables on the way to change all that.

bballrrt06
12-01-2006, 03:56 AM
i thought s video did 480p

joetama
12-01-2006, 03:57 AM
Not really important is it??? 720i/p and 1080i is much better ;)...

Motovet
12-01-2006, 04:00 AM
55" Hitachi plasma.....best for the money a year ago. Course now they are even less...

B&W your home set up is sweeeet!

joetama
12-01-2006, 04:07 AM
55" Hitachi plasma.....best for the money a year ago. Course now they are even less...

B&W your home set up is sweeeet!

Thanks.... It's about to get sweeter here in a week or two....

Scoobydoo
12-01-2006, 04:17 AM
I have no idea what the different input resolutions are, i just know more is better and progressive is better than interlaced or something like that.

This is my first step into HD cause I have been more than happy for 8 years with my 40" Mitsubishi tube. I have been meaning to go read up on all the different resolution options, but I havent had a chance yet.

When I hit the display button it says my modded xbox is sending a 480i signal to the monitor and it is hooked through svideo and optical. I am getting a component cable for the xbox and my dvd recorder tommorrow.

99StangGt
12-01-2006, 10:32 AM
When using s-video it will only put out 480i. you have to use component inputs to get the higher resolution. Well thats how it works on my dvd player

bumpin_blazer
12-01-2006, 12:40 PM
standard DVD players only do 480i anyway, some do 480p so unless you've got HD DVD or Blu-Ray you won't get a higher resolution from your DVD player.

bumpin_blazer
12-01-2006, 12:42 PM
I have no idea what the different input resolutions are, i just know more is better and progressive is better than interlaced or something like that.

This is my first step into HD cause I have been more than happy for 8 years with my 40" Mitsubishi tube. I have been meaning to go read up on all the different resolution options, but I havent had a chance yet.

When I hit the display button it says my modded xbox is sending a 480i signal to the monitor and it is hooked through svideo and optical. I am getting a component cable for the xbox and my dvd recorder tommorrow.

yeah xbox will only send a max of 480p same with digital cable (non HD). HD time warner sends 1080i signal though :D.

TooLowTooGo
12-01-2006, 07:24 PM
standard DVD players only do 480i anyway, some do 480p so unless you've got HD DVD or Blu-Ray you won't get a higher resolution from your DVD player.

and up converting dvd player will convert the signal to a 720/1080i signal. not true 720/1080 but it is alot better than the 480

bumpin_blazer
12-01-2006, 08:27 PM
up convert what the hell is that?

heyman421
12-01-2006, 08:32 PM
means you can convert the 480x720 video that's on the dvd to the native resolution of your tv, bypassing the upconverter in the tv.

it's not 100% necessary, but a lot of HDTV's come with subpar built-in upconverters, which can cause the picture to end up blurry

picture watching a dvd on your computer with a generic mpeg-2 codec compared to watching the same dvd with a quality windvd or powerdvd mpeg-2 codec, or even better, with a video card with hardware mpeg-2 decompression

Randy Savage
12-01-2006, 11:02 PM
Just received my 37" Syntax Olevia today. Pretty nice unit for less than $670 shipped


Which model did you get?

I'm looking into the 537H.

brandontw
12-02-2006, 12:22 AM
Just received my 37" Syntax Olevia today. Pretty nice unit for less than $670 shipped

I only have it hooked up with s-video at 480i right now, but I have some component cables on the way to change all that.


whered you get it for under 670?

im in the market for an HDTV, but, i dont want to spend over 700.

id like a good name brand like samsung or lg or hitachi, but that would bring my screen size down pretty far, id like 32-40"

T3mpest
12-02-2006, 12:31 AM
whered you get it for under 670?

im in the market for an HDTV, but, i dont want to spend over 700.

id like a good name brand like samsung or lg or hitachi, but that would bring my screen size down pretty far, id like 32-40"

Westinghouse makes TV's in that price range. Not as well known, but the PQ is as good as any major name brand. Original poster didn't like his, but I doubt he had it professionally calibrated.

supa_c
12-02-2006, 04:11 AM
Westinghouse in general is awful

Toshiba 36" HDTV

1loudsuv
12-02-2006, 04:47 AM
Ugh, Westinghouse's TVs look awful, IMO ...

is that really really true or just personall opinion and why do you think that?


just asking cause i guess now i know why certain things happen certain ways

i renember like 3 months back i was gonna just put a down payment and pay the rest on my brothers best buy credit card and get the 47" 1080p westinghouse but my brother was busy and i was like f that im not wating so i bought the tv i have right now but sometimes i wonder if the 47" would of been a better choice. i guess it went for the best then.

Scoobydoo
12-02-2006, 08:17 AM
Fry's/Outpost, I bought it on the 28th and it was delivered on the 30th

It was $647+22.91 shipping, so $669.91 total:)

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5060095?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Not a single dead pixel and I just picked up the component video/optical audio cable for my modded xbox so I can stream over the network. Looks amazing qalthough it still says I am running 480i:(

I will hook up my progressive scan dvd player tommorrow and test an actual dvd with it instead of the compressed backup streamed from my server.

bumpin_blazer
12-02-2006, 11:30 AM
hmmm my xbox was running 480p on my TV? that's odd

brandontw
12-02-2006, 04:51 PM
Fry's/Outpost, I bought it on the 28th and it was delivered on the 30th

It was $647+22.91 shipping, so $669.91 total:)

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5060095?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Not a single dead pixel and I just picked up the component video/optical audio cable for my modded xbox so I can stream over the network. Looks amazing qalthough it still says I am running 480i:(

I will hook up my progressive scan dvd player tommorrow and test an actual dvd with it instead of the compressed backup streamed from my server.
SWEET!!! i found it! -its on my list! it has all the features i want too. a few more paychecks....mmmmmm

brandontw
12-02-2006, 04:53 PM
Fry's/Outpost, I bought it on the 28th and it was delivered on the 30th

It was $647+22.91 shipping, so $669.91 total:)

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5060095?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Not a single dead pixel and I just picked up the component video/optical audio cable for my modded xbox so I can stream over the network. Looks amazing qalthough it still says I am running 480i:(

I will hook up my progressive scan dvd player tommorrow and test an actual dvd with it instead of the compressed backup streamed from my server.

have you tried using it as a computer monitor yet? id like to know how the quality is...

heyman421
12-02-2006, 04:54 PM
hmmm my xbox was running 480p on my TV? that's odd

there's only a handful of games that even support 480p, and they say so right on the box, not to mention it would need to be turned on in the configuration

ngsm13
12-02-2006, 04:58 PM
Fry's/Outpost, I bought it on the 28th and it was delivered on the 30th

It was $647+22.91 shipping, so $669.91 total:)

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5060095?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Not a single dead pixel and I just picked up the component video/optical audio cable for my modded xbox so I can stream over the network. Looks amazing qalthough it still says I am running 480i:(

I will hook up my progressive scan dvd player tommorrow and test an actual dvd with it instead of the compressed backup streamed from my server.

That's the one I got. $499 after mail-in rebate BlackFriday... :p:

Running 1080i off my Xbox360. Looks great!

nG

ngsm13
12-02-2006, 08:16 PM
I don't need no 37" computer monitor...

:p:

nG

joetama
12-02-2006, 08:47 PM
37" + 1366 x 768 resolution = awful unless you're several feet away ...

MMMMhMMMMMM


I don't need no 37" computer monitor...

:p:

nG

Bang Bros in HIGH DEF!!!!!!

Haha.... Right.....

99gtxgolfer
12-02-2006, 08:50 PM
I LOVE MY TV. WELL WORTH IT!!!!!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/99gtxgolfer/IM001193.jpg

Hitachi 42in Plasma HDTV i use all HDMI monster cables and HD comcast cable

used for TV, PS2, DVD, Computer monitor, and still have extra input. sick nasty ;)

Scoobydoo
12-02-2006, 09:04 PM
have you tried using it as a computer monitor yet? id like to know how the quality is...

no i havent yet, it needs a male/male vga cable and i dont have one

i got the xbox to output 480p, had to manually change it in the microsoft dashboard

supa_c
12-02-2006, 09:06 PM
Apple 30" Cinema Display is pure bliss.
I wish i had one, falker is massive, you can fot 3 full size windows in it

heyman421
12-02-2006, 09:14 PM
those ARE nice

overprices for their size, tho

viewsonic makes a tri-19" xga monitor for less money than that, and for use as a monitor, i'd rather have the tri-19

supa_c
12-02-2006, 09:19 PM
the 19" is small, the 30" a monster compared to that.

heyman421
12-02-2006, 09:27 PM
no, i mean it's a single monitor base with 3 19" monitors on it

it's less expensive cause manufacturing costs of 19" monitors are nill compared to the cost of making one big display

the apple is the way to go if you watch tv and movies on your computer

but for data use, the triple 19 would be cool as hell, imo

supa_c
12-02-2006, 09:30 PM
Anyone can do 3 19's
Its the single 30 that makes peoples jaw drop.
P.S
Bigger is better, thats why i use 18" subs :p

heyman421
12-02-2006, 09:34 PM
ok

how does this float your boat?
http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-trio-ultrahd.shtml

supa_c
12-02-2006, 09:43 PM
Thats what im talkin about !

heyman421
12-02-2006, 09:45 PM
i can't even begin to imagine what kind of video cards you'd need just to feed all three of those bad *****es

my computer would just laugh

supa_c
12-02-2006, 09:54 PM
Mine would literally say
" oh hell no you dont"

heyman421
12-02-2006, 11:00 PM
well, ****, with that setup you could play half life on two of the screens, and then the third could keep your firefox AND thunderbird AND gaim AND winamp AND utorrent open in full-size :eek:

a few years ago, just for fun, i put in 2 pci video cards in addition to my AGP in my old vaio, and ran 3 monitors, and even with the limited ability of the 2 pci cards to do 3d, some of the simple multi-monitor enabled screensavers were UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!

And those were just 16" monitors......

Three 30" monitors that could actually do 3d gaming would make you have a seizure, i gauran-****ing-tee it :yumyum:

btnhfan
12-03-2006, 10:43 PM
Anyone have any thoughts on this dlp tv

http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/25389.html


I havent seen anything bad about the 46", only the 42"
But I havent seen much on it about gaming lag with 360, so that leaves me a little concerned.

1loudsuv
12-03-2006, 11:29 PM
Anyone have any thoughts on this dlp tv

http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/25389.html


I havent seen anything bad about the 46", only the 42"
But I havent seen much on it about gaming lag with 360, so that leaves me a little concerned.

i think it is on the lag list. almost 90% sure it is but i could eazy be wrong. i was gonna get that exact tv but i just didnt like the pq of it. but i do love how sleek they look

supa_c
12-03-2006, 11:31 PM
Samsung has really good designers for their products.
That TV looks like some of their cell phones

1loudsuv
12-03-2006, 11:33 PM
I LOVE MY TV. WELL WORTH IT!!!!!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e352/99gtxgolfer/IM001193.jpg

Hitachi 42in Plasma HDTV i use all HDMI monster cables and HD comcast cable

used for TV, PS2, DVD, Computer monitor, and still have extra input. sick nasty ;)

if you think thats sick what about this :cool:

yah im back to my old home theater in a box speakers and minus a 360 but got the ps3

still undecided if i should get the def tech's or the b&w's gonna give the b&w's a listing once i have all teh money gathered up for them wich is only like 1,500 left that i need. gosh dang its i want something now i allready miss my old stuff :furious:


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1129061721.jpg

supa_c
12-03-2006, 11:40 PM
i like the shoe in the shot..lol

1loudsuv
12-03-2006, 11:45 PM
oh yah you cant have an hdtv without hd-dvd or blu ray preferably hd-dvd :D

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1203061946.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1129061811a.jpg

1loudsuv
12-03-2006, 11:46 PM
i like the shoe in the shot..lol

its my foot :laugh: and waht about the kiddy potty on the right :eek: :laugh:

supa_c
12-03-2006, 11:47 PM
fast and the furious...haha

btnhfan
12-03-2006, 11:58 PM
http://gear.ign.com/articles/720/720303p2.html


The other sizes seem to have some issues.

But a thread I found on avsforum has people saying that there isnt a problem.

Scoobydoo
12-04-2006, 12:06 AM
A few pics of mine. It isnt set up 100% right now cause I still have my 40" tube in the room until later this week when I trade it for a new futon:)

Image kinda ***** cause it is 640x480 so I could host it.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1043/dscf0014rg1.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7789/dscf0015vr1.jpg

1loudsuv
12-04-2006, 12:11 AM
http://gear.ign.com/articles/720/720303p2.html


The other sizes seem to have some issues.

But a thread I found on avsforum has people saying that there isnt a problem.

could be right. im still not to sure if it was that set i renember seing a bunch of samsung's and a 46" but i really cant renember since it was around 4-5 months ago when i was looking for a tv

bikejunkie223
12-04-2006, 03:21 AM
still undecided if i should get the def tech's or the b&w's gonna give the b&w's a listing once i have all teh money gathered up for them wich is only like 1,500 left that i need. gosh dang its i want something now i allready miss my old stuff :furious:



I prefer Paradigm Studio series to B&W's personally (Studio 40's and 20's FTW)

Won $1000 at my works christmas part tonight so I'm probably getting a Panasonic TH-42px60u in the next week or so. I just think for my room a 50 would be too big, but the 50" Sony SXRD is really tempting......anybody have opinions on these tv's?

Nikuk
12-04-2006, 12:17 PM
Sammy HL 6187W. :*******:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/NjccBflo/Audio%20Equip/PIX0715.jpg

Rochambeau
12-04-2006, 12:38 PM
A few pics of mine. It isnt set up 100% right now cause I still have my 40" tube in the room until later this week when I trade it for a new futon:)

Image kinda ***** cause it is 640x480 so I could host it.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1043/dscf0014rg1.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7789/dscf0015vr1.jpg

Oh snap, that is the kind of interface that I have been dreaming of for a multi-DVD changer. X-box does that? Is it just a library of some sort or is that hooked up to a DVD changer?

(I apologize for the ignorance of X-box, etc.. I am stictly a PC-gamer.)

ngsm13
12-04-2006, 01:37 PM
I prefer Paradigm Studio series to B&W's personally (Studio 40's and 20's FTW)

Won $1000 at my works christmas part tonight so I'm probably getting a Panasonic TH-42px60u in the next week or so. I just think for my room a 50 would be too big, but the 50" Sony SXRD is really tempting......anybody have opinions on these tv's?

You must be slightly deaf then. Paradigm... LAWL.

What series B&W's have you heard?

nG

1loudsuv
12-04-2006, 04:24 PM
You must be slightly deaf then. Paradigm... LAWL.

What series B&W's have you heard?

nG

thats what i was thinking they dont look to sound all that but when i get the rest of the cash ill give them all a try the b&w and those i allready heard teh def tech's and if the b&ws really sound that much better then ill get those.

b&w's sure look dam sleek i could probably get away wiht telling my freinds i spent 5 grand a piece for the towers :laugh:

Scoobydoo
12-04-2006, 04:27 PM
Oh snap, that is the kind of interface that I have been dreaming of for a multi-DVD changer. X-box does that? Is it just a library of some sort or is that hooked up to a DVD changer?

(I apologize for the ignorance of X-box, etc.. I am stictly a PC-gamer.)

It is a modded xbox with xbox media center networked to my server. I have 4 400gb hard drives in the server and I rip all my dvd movies over to it so I can stream them. I have another one in the bedroom as well

The one in the bedroom is just a basic modded one to stream the movies, but the one in the living room has a 250gb hard drive which stores about 100 xbox games and thousands of emulated games

Anytime you add a movie you just hit info on the remote and it connects to IMDB(Internet Movie Data Base) and downloads the plot/cast and cover art and stores it.

A basic modded xbox should only run you about $125.

There is a ton more you can do with it like web browse, ftp, etc. but I wont get into that now.

Figured I would add some more pics:)

Home page:
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9853/dscf0019ps3.jpg

Weather page(yes it is cold here):
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1023/dscf0017qv5.jpg

Picture page(my doggy):
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1607/dscf0018tg7.jpg

Game page:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7406/dscf0020xz8.jpg

bikejunkie223
12-04-2006, 04:35 PM
I have heard lot's of the 700 series and 600 series and 300 series. I also listened to a pair of 800 series towers, but who has 10k laying around for those. I am in no way saying b&w speakers aren't phenomenal, but I preferred the sound of the Paradigm Studio series over the equivalent price point in a B&W. I'm sure as the price point increases the differences also increase, but in the $1500 per pair range they are fairly similar- to my ears the B&W's sounded more warm and fat, whereas the Paradigms that I bought sounded more accurate, especially in the top end. I guess this is why there are so many speaker companies, everyone's tastes differ, but to you guys that want to crack me like I must be deaf, you can kiss my pucker I have just as much right to my opinion as you do and I went back and forth between some 805's and Studio 40's and just preferred the clarity of the Paradigms. Sorry if you disagree. My brother's system is all B&W's and sounds great, mine is all Paradigm Studio (can't even compare them to the cheaper monitor series) and sounds great as well. The Paradigm Signature series are even better still and also compete with B&W in the higher price points.

Scoobydoo
12-04-2006, 04:35 PM
You must be slightly deaf then. Paradigm... LAWL.

What series B&W's have you heard?

nG

I have loved all the Paradigm speakers I have had. They are an excellent "bang for you buck" speaker.

I started with Paradigm Monitor 7's, Monitor 5's, CC-250 hooked to an Anthem preamp/amp combo

Now due to space I have Atoms, ADP-70's, CC-200 hooked to a Denon 2802 receiver and it sounds wonderful

I have never owned the higher end studio line, but I would recommend the lower end Paradigm line to anyone on a budget

1loudsuv
12-04-2006, 04:42 PM
I have heard lot's of the 700 series and 600 series and 300 series. I also listened to a pair of 800 series towers, but who has 10k laying around for those. I am in no way saying b&w speakers aren't phenomenal, but I preferred the sound of the Paradigm Studio series over the equivalent price point in a B&W. I'm sure as the price point increases the differences also increase, but in the $1500 per pair range they are fairly similar- to my ears the B&W's sounded more warm and fat, whereas the Paradigms that I bought sounded more accurate, especially in the top end. I guess this is why there are so many speaker companies, everyone's tastes differ, but to you guys that want to crack me like I must be deaf, you can kiss my pucker I have just as much right to my opinion as you do and I went back and forth between some 805's and Studio 40's and just preferred the clarity of the Paradigms. Sorry if you disagree. My brother's system is all B&W's and sounds great, mine is all Paradigm Studio (can't even compare them to the cheap-*** monitor series) and sounds great as well. The Paradigm Signature series are even better still and also compete with B&W in the higher price points.



ok i was comparing and the paradigm have the 80 series but i dunno how much they cost or if the 100 series would compare more to these

im getting these most likely but like i said since its a big purchase dont want to make the mistake of buying something i dont like or if i find out later i could of got something better for less or hte same

http://www.hometheaterstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTM7

http://www.hometheaterstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=703

but depending on my girl if she lets me these lol

http://www.hometheaterstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=804S

bumpin_blazer
12-04-2006, 04:42 PM
bah i should have gotten pics of the ps3 on my sony 55" last night. we were playing fall of man at 720p and mmmmm mmmmmm it sure looked good.

bikejunkie223
12-04-2006, 04:45 PM
I have loved all the Paradigm speakers I have had. They are an excellent "bang for you buck" speaker.

I started with Paradigm Monitor 7's, Monitor 5's, CC-250 hooked to an Anthem preamp/amp combo

Now due to space I have Atoms, ADP-70's, CC-200 hooked to a Denon 2802 receiver and it sounds wonderful

I have never owned the higher end studio line, but I would recommend the lower end Paradigm line to anyone on a budget

Thank you, I agree that for the cash Paradigm monitor speakers sound great, currently my setup is a Denon 2105 receiver, Studio 40's front, the CC-470 center, studio 20's rear, and a Seismic 10 sub- sounds great to everyone that has heard it.

bikejunkie223
12-04-2006, 04:51 PM
ok i was comparing and the paradigm have the 80 series but i dunno how much they cost or if the 100 series would compare more to these

im getting these most likely but like i said since its a big purchase dont want to make the mistake of buying something i dont like or if i find out later i could of got something better for less or hte same

http://www.hometheaterstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HTM7

http://www.hometheaterstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=703

but depending on my girl if she lets me these lol

http://www.hometheaterstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=804S


I'm sure any of those would be an excellent choice. I just really like the way Paradigms sound. My best advice would be to take music you know very well to some dealers and just listen to everything you are interested in. That's really the only way to make a decision, once you know what you like best, then go wherever you can get the best price.

Flipx99
12-04-2006, 04:53 PM
I got this samsung slimfit TV. It has 1080i in the corner. It is only 30" but big enough for me.

Right now I am piecing together a home entertainment center for it.

joetama
12-04-2006, 05:28 PM
Listening and watching TV's and Speakers is the key to finding what looks the best to your eyes and ears. Paradigm isn't really in the same class as B&W. I'm sure the reason they sound "warmer" or "fatter" is because the mid->low-mid range is much fuller and natural. (Difference between a higher end speaker and a sony book shelf system, the sony system sounds less warm or fat than the higher end one) It's all in what you are used to listening to. Also, the equipment used to power/drive the speakers make a BIG effect on higher end gear. The Paradigm you can get away with running cheaper gear, while B&W's you can run that same equipment but when you upgrade to Rotel, Arcam, or something crazy like Classe the difference is rather large...

ngsm13
12-04-2006, 05:58 PM
Yeah, running off receiver power... it's quite possible the PAIR-UH-DIJM's sound better to you ;)...

I agree with the EhRon... the B&W's are in a completely different class.

nG

Scoobydoo
12-04-2006, 06:25 PM
and they cost more so they should

Randy Savage
12-04-2006, 06:26 PM
and they cost more so they should

That's the 337H you got there right?

How is it so far?

Does that have a built in tuner, or no? Forgot if that one has it or not...looking at that and the 537h.

Scoobydoo
12-04-2006, 06:31 PM
That's the 337H you got there right?

How is it so far?

Does that have a built in tuner, or no? Forgot if that one has it or not...looking at that and the 537h.

yes the 337h, no tuner

working great so far, just waiting to get rid of the huge tv next to it so i can settle it down in its final resting place and calibrate it with avia

Rochambeau
12-04-2006, 06:31 PM
Scooby, sent you a PM to avoid cluttering this thread.

Thanks.

Randy Savage
12-04-2006, 06:39 PM
yes the 337h, no tuner

working great so far, just waiting to get rid of the huge tv next to it so i can settle it down in its final resting place and calibrate it with avia

I'm considering just saving the money and going with the 337 since I'll have an HC cable box and don't really think I'll need the built-in tuner...plus, IMO the silver of the 337 looks better then the black 537.

ngsm13
12-04-2006, 06:41 PM
My 337H works great, I love it with my Xbox360. Now if my Apartment just didn't feed off of campus cable... which *****.

Oh well... I mainly like it for Games/Movies.

nG

bikejunkie223
12-04-2006, 08:41 PM
Listening and watching TV's and Speakers is the key to finding what looks the best to your eyes and ears. Paradigm isn't really in the same class as B&W. I'm sure the reason they sound "warmer" or "fatter" is because the mid->low-mid range is much fuller and natural. (Difference between a higher end speaker and a sony book shelf system, the sony system sounds less warm or fat than the higher end one) It's all in what you are used to listening to. Also, the equipment used to power/drive the speakers make a BIG effect on higher end gear. The Paradigm you can get away with running cheaper gear, while B&W's you can run that same equipment but when you upgrade to Rotel, Arcam, or something crazy like Classe the difference is rather large...

I disagree in the statement that B&W is in a different class, sure some of what they make may well be but the majority of what they produce is in competitive price class with a great number of speaker manufacturers like Paradigm. You are a B&W fanboi, so you are hardly objective on the subject. You prefer the sound of B&W, that's awesome, I am glad you have found what you like. As for the amp determining the sound, you are correct, a pre/pro + dedicated amp will nearly always sound better than a reciever, but the differences are very subtle IMO until you spend the enormous jack it takes to buy Rotel or Classe. I agree my speakers don't compare well to some of the B&W speakers that cost twice as much, but you can't possibly say those B&W speakers sound twice as good. If you have the financial means to buy the very best you can be concerned with the smallest of nuances, but you will pay for that difference. My point is at any given price point the quality is virtually the same from brand to brand and it is simply a matter of preference. There are some that would argue Dynaudio makes better HT speakers than B&W, and for those that prefer Dyn that would be a factual statement. That's my opinion- it is not fact that B&W makes the most superior speakers ever- it is fact that they make some of them along with several other companies, and your opinion of the best can be different from mine and there is nothing wrong with that. ****, some think Bose stuff is awesome- people that have never heard real home theater stuff....

1loudsuv
12-04-2006, 09:08 PM
i might be stuck with the def techs :( i really dont want to buy another sub after selling a dam good one to my brother.

plus i think its really neat how they have built in subs. my girl hated my sub cause it took up alot of room in our small room

ngsm13
12-05-2006, 12:45 AM
Boo to the girl :( determining sound equipment.

If you take some 3way floor standers... in the same price range... I'd more than likely take the B&W's.

nG

supa_c
12-05-2006, 12:49 AM
Sub under the bed...dur
Get some bassshakers

joetama
12-05-2006, 12:56 AM
I disagree in the statement that B&W is in a different class, sure some of what they make may well be but the majority of what they produce is in competitive price class with a great number of speaker manufacturers like Paradigm. You are a B&W fanboi, so you are hardly objective on the subject. You prefer the sound of B&W, that's awesome, I am glad you have found what you like. As for the amp determining the sound, you are correct, a pre/pro + dedicated amp will nearly always sound better than a reciever, but the differences are very subtle IMO until you spend the enormous jack it takes to buy Rotel or Classe. I agree my speakers don't compare well to some of the B&W speakers that cost twice as much, but you can't possibly say those B&W speakers sound twice as good. If you have the financial means to buy the very best you can be concerned with the smallest of nuances, but you will pay for that difference. My point is at any given price point the quality is virtually the same from brand to brand and it is simply a matter of preference. There are some that would argue Dynaudio makes better HT speakers than B&W, and for those that prefer Dyn that would be a factual statement. That's my opinion- it is not fact that B&W makes the most superior speakers ever- it is fact that they make some of them along with several other companies, and your opinion of the best can be different from mine and there is nothing wrong with that. ****, some think Bose stuff is awesome- people that have never heard real home theater stuff....

Well first of all you can't measure what sounds better or not so you can't put a multiplier on it, you can with a monetary value like dollars. To some people that extra money is way worth what it costs to get a better item. I do agree that sound is very very subjective but you are just as much subjective your way as I am mine. I'm sure that I have listened to just as many if not more setups with a much more technical disposition. I don't know your background in audio but I presume it's much different than mine. Paradigm is a different class of speaker because of the components used, price range, and construction methods. They, to me, are a totally difference class of speaker. They don't compete at all to my ears with brands such as B&W, Dali, Sonus Faber, or Gamut. These speakers are much more expensive, but I have the means and the need for that extra bit. So it's a lot more valuable to me, as it's not to you.

We could sit here and go back and forth all night about who is the best and what is a justifiable about of money for a system. To me, I love my $12,000 system, but would if I could spend twice or three times that. To other's I'm just crazy and they can't hear the difference. And Iím not totally 100% and absolute B&W dogg for life. I love them, and do enjoy their product a lot, but would I look into other speakers some day sure I would. Gamut L5ís are very splendid speakers, so are many others. But, this is my second set of B&W speakers, first ones were rebuilt DM330i, and my father just got not too long a go his second set which are B&W 804S.

SO, to each his own... I wasn't knocking your speakers, but just trying to make a clear and visible separation between Canadian Gear and the gear from Jolly Ol' England...

This sort of reminds me of the Bryston vs. Rotel argumentsÖ.

Canada vs. England

http://www.1uptravel.com/flags/images/ca-lgflag.gif
VS.
http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/images/British%20Flag.jpg

joetama
12-05-2006, 12:58 AM
Sub under the bed...dur
Get some bassshakers

Maybe the girl wouldn't mind anymore then....

Plus, don't listen to her... Your system will never ***** at you or leave you or make you do anything you really don't want to do...

99StangGt
12-05-2006, 01:00 AM
8 years ago I had Paradigm bipolar fronts and rears with a paradigm center and loved them. I didnt need a sub but added one and it was killer. I have always wanted B&Ws but couldnt afford them. Maybe when the kids are gone I can get a new system.

supa_c
12-05-2006, 01:02 AM
Canada> all
/ argument

joetama
12-05-2006, 01:04 AM
8 years ago I had Paradigm bipolar fronts and rears with a paradigm center and loved them. I didnt need a sub but added one and it was killer. I have always wanted B&Ws but couldnt afford them. Maybe when the kids are gone I can get a new system.

How old are they? If over 16 kick them out now... They will be fine... haha....


Canada> all
/ argument

I don't think Canada has ever powned anyone have they??

supa_c
12-05-2006, 01:07 AM
I dunno, been a while since i took canadian history and i was to young to get into the good stuff.

ngsm13
12-05-2006, 01:08 AM
Canada is worthless.

nG

supa_c
12-05-2006, 01:10 AM
So is your life
Die...NOW
kthxbi

joetama
12-05-2006, 01:18 AM
So is your life
Die...NOW
kthxbi

That is a good one..... But seriously... Canada??? I got nothing......

bikejunkie223
12-05-2006, 03:36 AM
Well first of all you can't measure what sounds better or not so you can't put a multiplier on it, you can with a monetary value like dollars. To some people that extra money is way worth what it costs to get a better item. I do agree that sound is very very subjective but you are just as much subjective your way as I am mine. I'm sure that I have listened to just as many if not more setups with a much more technical disposition. I don't know your background in audio but I presume it's much different than mine. Paradigm is a different class of speaker because of the components used, price range, and construction methods. They, to me, are a totally difference class of speaker. They don't compete at all to my ears with brands such as B&W, Dali, Sonus Faber, or Gamut. These speakers are much more expensive, but I have the means and the need for that extra bit. So it's a lot more valuable to me, as it's not to you.

We could sit here and go back and forth all night about who is the best and what is a justifiable about of money for a system. To me, I love my $12,000 system, but would if I could spend twice or three times that. To other's I'm just crazy and they can't hear the difference. And Iím not totally 100% and absolute B&W dogg for life. I love them, and do enjoy their product a lot, but would I look into other speakers some day sure I would. Gamut L5ís are very splendid speakers, so are many others. But, this is my second set of B&W speakers, first ones were rebuilt DM330i, and my father just got not too long a go his second set which are B&W 804S.

SO, to each his own... I wasn't knocking your speakers, but just trying to make a clear and visible separation between Canadian Gear and the gear from Jolly Ol' England...

This sort of reminds me of the Bryston vs. Rotel argumentsÖ.


I appreciate your point of view, I am not in any way trying to imply that paradigm is the best sounding or I don't understand paying huge jack for some really special speakers. within the budget I had I bought the nicest speakers I could afford- it turned out that for the given price point I was shopping and the needs of my room, and the reciever I would be using, the Paradigms just sounded better. If all my equipment was different it may sound better still, but to say Paradigm is an inferior product is unfair- that is my point. I don't believe even in the Signature series they produce anything that competes with, say a set of 800d's (about 15k for a pair I think) but that isn't the market they are after (the ultra-high end) I listened to some 800d's at a local dealer and was shocked at how fantastic they sounded, and how fantastically expensive they are. I don't fault you for your taste, B&W's are fantastic and if I had more money it's possible I would have something other than Paradigm in my living room (like dynaudio or Wilson Audio; of course both while sounding great don't have nearly the asthetic appeal of B&W's) Anyway if everyone's ears heard the same thing there would only need to be 1 speaker manufacturer worldwide. And yes, I am a subjective paradigm fanboi.

1loudsuv
12-05-2006, 03:45 AM
you guys just make it hard. i want something that of corse i like but something that if i show off to a freind that reallllllllyyyy knows their **** would go DAM THIS SOUNDS GOOD!

the local def tech dealer is also a paradigm dealer. i can compare both but i wont know wich one will really sound better :( well i doubt i will im coming from spl competition so even a so so system sounds good

like ive said when i heard the def tech's my jaw dropped i couldnt belive how good they sound. if paradigm and b&w sound better then wow just wow.

supa_c
12-05-2006, 03:50 AM
If you have a store dedicated to your own product it better be good...
( B&W)

bikejunkie223
12-05-2006, 10:44 AM
You just want to listen mostly for clarity, and what sounds the most natural to you- at least that's what I listen for in loudspeakers of any kind. I want the whole system to reproduce the music accurately, not add coloration or it's own sound of any kind. To me in a loudspeaker accuracy is the key- nice tight midrange, crystal clear shimmering highs without being overbearing and sawing your ear off like a lot of car audio tweets will. If they all sound the same to you (they won't) then you can shop by looks, size, or price whatever is more important to you. I went shopping for tower speakers initially, but came home with some very large bookshelf speakers and stands- don't be fooled by size, smaller speakers can sound every bit as good as bohemouth towers (to a point) You also have to consider the room they are going in, typically the bigger the room the bigger the speaker will usually need to be to fill it (or the more powerful the amplifier) That is my unprofessional opinion.

joetama
12-05-2006, 02:39 PM
Well bookshelves have their things that floor standers don't. Some guys who run tubes have to have the bookshelves because they are much more efficient than a 3-way floor standing model. They also, usually are much cheaper and take much less space. I personally would have to say, however, I have never heard a good 2-way design that could truly keep up with a good 3-way design. The separation of frequencies over certain drivers increases clarity but makes phasing and time alignment much more difficult, you can also get smearing if the cross-over isn't done just right. So there is a trade off. Again it all comes down to what you ears like. Paradigm is good, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t see how you say a Studio 20/40/60/100 competes with the 700 series. Maybe the lower end 600’s and defiantly the 300’s but the CM series up are much better speakers. For Christ sake the most advanced technological thing they got is Ferro-Fluid dampening and cooling, which they put in their mid-range too?????? Their sound and build reminds me of a weird cross between Klipsch and Krell, and boo to both of those. I would put them into the lower Focal range too. But, some poeple swear focal sounds better than B&W but put the two speakers side by side and you can hear a BIG difference and it isn't a good one for the Focals. But, I’m done arguing this…. Just go out and buy whatever sounds good to you and don’t listen to a word me or anyone else says to you. Who knows BOSE might sound fantastic to you?????

bikejunkie223
12-06-2006, 10:34 AM
I don’t see how you say a Studio 20/40/60/100 competes with the 700 series. Maybe the lower end 600’s and defiantly the 300’s but the CM series up are much better speakers.

My point is the studio series competes withthe 600/700 series. The signature series goes to the upper 700 series and lower 800 series, and Paradigm doesn't really offer anything for B&W's rediculously high-end stuff. That's the only point I am trying to make- at a given price point they are competitive and it can not be said one is vastly superior to the other outside of personal opinion.

boomintahoe
12-21-2006, 09:57 PM
Got myself a 53" Pioneer HDTV. Bought for a grand brand new at a local CC....how did I manage to do that, you ask?? Walked into the store at the right place, right time. So far, I'm pretty happy with it. Still working on getting more cabling for the H/K receiver to the TV and such to get better picture.

bumpin_blazer
12-21-2006, 11:21 PM
what pioneer 53"? if you're trying to tell me you bought a brand new 53" pioneer for a grand i want proof or to know what store lol. there's just no freaking way the cheapest CC should be allowed to sell it brand new is about 3 times that.

AudioAnonymous
12-21-2006, 11:24 PM
I got a 50" Sony XSRD or something like that. 1080dpi. Love it.

bumpin_blazer
12-21-2006, 11:30 PM
audio you talking about the sonly LCD that's 1 level above the 3LCD? if so i have that in a 55" version.

bikejunkie223
12-22-2006, 01:39 AM
I got *** raped for some DVI to HDMI cables last week. I got them at cost (6 footers) for $45 each- some fools get stiffed for retail ($130 each) Ouchie. Thank god my brother is a manager at a compusa!

bumpin_blazer
12-22-2006, 02:58 AM
yeah i got my monster cable hdmi cable for 32 bucks last week :D.

joetama
12-24-2006, 12:00 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls as of yesterday afternoon I am now the PROUD owner of a Pioneer Elite Pro-940HD.... And it is a beautiful TV....

Randy Savage
12-24-2006, 12:04 PM
Niiiice...pics dude...pics.

Yesterday I ordered my Samsung HL-S5086W :)

joetama
12-24-2006, 12:10 PM
Niiiice...pics dude...pics.

Yesterday I ordered my Samsung HL-S5086W :)

Well you see that is a problem because I am stupid. I have my camera, but don't have my computer link cable, or my battery charger. So, I pretty much brought a paper weight with my from Cincy to home because I didn't bring anything that I needed to make it work........

But I assure you, as soon as I can get a Camera, there will be pictures. It looks nice next to my old man's 804S setup... But will look even better at home with my 703 setup.....

bumpin_blazer
12-24-2006, 02:56 PM
b&w i officially hate you lol....that is all :D.

ngsm13
12-24-2006, 04:59 PM
I heard some homosexual favors were involved in getting that TV.

Of course, that's right up the Eh's alley! ;)

nG

1loudsuv
12-24-2006, 05:27 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls as of yesterday afternoon I am now the PROUD owner of a Pioneer Elite Pro-940HD.... And it is a beautiful TV....

nicet tv

but me ive been wanting this one :yumyum:


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069731_290043890,00.html

Ctminime
12-24-2006, 05:34 PM
i have a Vizio seems to work pretty good for the price..

ngsm13
12-24-2006, 05:51 PM
nicet tv

but me ive been wanting this one :yumyum:


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069731_290043890,00.html

Indeed, we sat and stared at that one for a while.

It's only $8grand.

nG

kuijo
12-24-2006, 06:14 PM
I can't believe yall are talking up those olevia's. i've seen several in person and they were terrible.

Scoobydoo
12-24-2006, 06:21 PM
I can't believe yall are talking up those olevia's. i've seen several in person and they were terrible.


maybe compared to ones 3 times the price, but with Olevia you are talking "bang for your buck"

i switched from my "reference" 40" mitsubishi tube to the 37" Olevia. i havent had the chance to calibrate it using AVIA so i am using the factory settings, but i coulndn't be happier with my $670 choice

i find myself watching programs just because they look so **** good in 1080i

last night i was watching hockey on HDNET and i could actually see the puck spinning on the ice it was so clear

ngsm13
12-24-2006, 06:38 PM
I can't believe yall are talking up those olevia's. i've seen several in person and they were terrible.

Mine is great.

:fyi:

nG

Randy Savage
12-24-2006, 06:38 PM
I took a look at the Olevia 237V that they had on display at CompUSA and it looked **** good for the price. I was going to go with the 537H but splurged on the 50" Sammy :)

kuijo
12-24-2006, 06:58 PM
Mine is great.

:fyi:

nG

I guess as long as you're satisfied. There were many other TVs around the same price with a better picture. Maybe i'll have to take a look at them again.

Randy Savage
12-24-2006, 07:07 PM
I guess as long as you're satisfied. There were many other TVs around the same price with a better picture. Maybe i'll have to take a look at them again.

You can't judge a TV from one store- most places have the feed split 50 times and have settings that joe blow screwed around with on the TV

ngsm13
12-24-2006, 08:35 PM
I guess as long as you're satisfied. There were many other TVs around the same price with a better picture. Maybe i'll have to take a look at them again.

Mine was $500 for a 37" LCD HDTV.

Nothing close in that price range, liked it better than the other offerings from CircuitCity and BB... like the Westinghouse... boo.

I had some pics of Gears Of War on Xbox360 @1080i, but I can't find my mem card...

nG

boomintahoe
12-24-2006, 09:17 PM
what pioneer 53"? if you're trying to tell me you bought a brand new 53" pioneer for a grand i want proof or to know what store lol. there's just no freaking way the cheapest CC should be allowed to sell it brand new is about 3 times that.

It's a rear projection dude, not a LCD or DLP. And the list price for it is 1600. Here's a link of exactly what I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-PT-53X54-Widescreen-Projection-HDTV-Ready/dp/B00021ZVJM

joetama
12-24-2006, 09:25 PM
nicet tv

but me ive been wanting this one :yumyum:


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069731_290043890,00.html



You let me know when you get that.... And I'll be right over with the beer and popcorn.....

1loudsuv
12-24-2006, 11:00 PM
You let me know when you get that.... And I'll be right over with the beer and popcorn.....

well i heard this year (07) at ces their suppose to have a 60" version but gonna retail close to $20 grand

now "if" i can get it for 8 grand or so in 08 i will definatly be selling my tv and getting that :yumyum:

supa_c
12-24-2006, 11:25 PM
A friend of mine might be getting this :http://samsung.com/Products/TV/DLPTV/HLS5688WXXAA.asp
It just barely fits in the opening, about .5" on each side if he gets it

joetama
12-25-2006, 01:52 AM
well i heard this year (07) at ces their suppose to have a 60" version but gonna retail close to $20 grand

now "if" i can get it for 8 grand or so in 08 i will definatly be selling my tv and getting that :yumyum:

The local Pioneer Elite guys have one of these Displays and had it hooked to the Pioneer Elite Prototype Blue-Ray Player. All I can say is it was the best most realistic picture I have ever seen...

2kchevy06civic
12-25-2006, 01:59 AM
grats on the TV EE

joetama
12-25-2006, 02:12 AM
Thanks Dude.....

I'm rather happy with it so far....

ngsm13
12-25-2006, 02:14 AM
Thanks Dude.....

I'm rather happy with it so far....

I know you watch movies a lot, but wait till you get back to campus and are SO disappointed b/c of our ****** cable feed. Might just have to wing a dish out the window. ;)

nG

NoLimit
12-25-2006, 02:18 AM
Now I didn't take the time to read the whole thread, but I felt I'd share a little insight.

TV's scan patterns are either interlaced or progressive.

Interlaced refers to the odd lines scanning first, then the even ones following.

Progressive is when the lines are scanned from top to bottom.

With progressive, if you take a snapshot of a still frame of motion, it'll be blurry, Thats because half of the current frame is scanned, and half of the other frame is left over. Progressive is said to have a better standing picture quality.

Interlaced is said to look better with motion, and more crisp.

With that being said, I have a samsung 50in DLP 1080I tv :)

2kchevy06civic
12-25-2006, 02:18 AM
;)

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:19 AM
pix??

ultimate157
12-25-2006, 02:21 AM
Pioneer Elite's are some **** nice TV's. I myself have a Pioneer Elite Pro 510-HD rear projection set. **** clarity with a ton of options.

bumpin_blazer
12-25-2006, 02:29 AM
Now I didn't take the time to read the whole thread, but I felt I'd share a little insight.

TV's scan patterns are either interlaced or progressive.

Interlaced refers to the odd lines scanning first, then the even ones following.

Progressive is when the lines are scanned from top to bottom.

With progressive, if you take a snapshot of a still frame of motion, it'll be blurry, Thats because half of the current frame is scanned, and half of the other frame is left over. Progressive is said to have a better standing picture quality.

Interlaced is said to look better with motion, and more crisp.

With that being said, I have a samsung 50in DLP 1080I tv :)

no offense but at 17, you sure it's not like the family tv? just curious as most rooms that aren't a master bedroom don't accomadte a 50" to well, i know my parents old 40" looked big in my up stairs master in my parents house.

bumpin_blazer
12-25-2006, 02:33 AM
It's a rear projection dude, not a LCD or DLP. And the list price for it is 1600. Here's a link of exactly what I have...
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-PT-53X54-Widescreen-Projection-HDTV-Ready/dp/B00021ZVJM

this is why i said what i said "
Got myself a 53" Pioneer HDTV. Bought for a grand brand new at a local CC....how did I manage to do that, you ask?? Walked into the store at the right place, right time. So far, I'm pretty happy with it. Still working on getting more cabling for the H/K receiver to the TV and such to get better picture.".

i was responding as you said pioneer and pioneer makes a few 53" tv's but i don't think any are 07's.

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:33 AM
no offense but at 17, you sure it's not like the family tv? just curious as most rooms that aren't a master bedroom don't accomadte a 50" to well, i know my parents old 40" looked big in my up stairs master in my parents house.

my tv is in my room all 60" inches of it :yumyum:

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:36 AM
pix??

waiting for b&W

:zzzzz:

:needpics: :iagree:

NoLimit
12-25-2006, 02:37 AM
no offense but at 17, you sure it's not like the family tv? just curious as most rooms that aren't a master bedroom don't accomadte a 50" to well, i know my parents old 40" looked big in my up stairs master in my parents house.

It is our family TV, I didn't buy it, nor did I even pay a dime towards it :D It was my dad's present to himself and our family. But it's the only TV I honestly watch, besides the tiny like 15inch in my room :D

I am however in a class that prepares me for a career in media technology, so I learned about TV's and radio and a whole lot of other stuff.

But yeah, our TV barely fits, I think we have like 3/4in on each side haha

joetama
12-25-2006, 02:37 AM
I know you watch movies a lot, but wait till you get back to campus and are SO disappointed b/c of our ****** cable feed. Might just have to wing a dish out the window. ;)

nG

I don't really care..... Because I watch cable maybe 1/2 hour a week..... Except when I'm in that other room.... I seriously watch 95% movies on my TV I currently have. Plus, we have been watching standard def Sat, which isn't much better than the cable feed and it doesn't look bad. That TV does nice with SD signals.....

When I move where ever it is next year..... I don't think I'm even going to bother with cable or sat..... Because I don't use it....

bumpin_blazer
12-25-2006, 02:41 AM
my tv is in my room all 60" inches of it :yumyum:

you have size issues;).

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:41 AM
a high def tv without a high def signal is like

having a hot girlfriend without being able to touch her

NoLimit
12-25-2006, 02:42 AM
a high def tv without a high def signal is like

having a hot girlfriend without being able to touch her

lmfao, nice analogy haha

ngsm13
12-25-2006, 02:42 AM
I don't really care..... Because I watch cable maybe 1/2 hour a week..... Except when I'm in that other room.... I seriously watch 95% movies on my TV I currently have. Plus, we have been watching standard def Sat, which isn't much better than the cable feed and it doesn't look bad. That TV does nice with SD signals.....

When I move where ever it is next year..... I don't think I'm even going to bother with cable or sat..... Because I don't use it....

Indeed. I'll just get over the air HD signal.

nG

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:43 AM
you have size issues;).

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1129061721.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/DSC00445.jpg

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:44 AM
real high def here :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1203061946.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1129061811a.jpg

joetama
12-25-2006, 02:45 AM
I might do that.... But what I'm really waiting for is this **** Blue-Ray HD-DVD war to get over. Or for Pioneer to get off the asses and make a double player. Because, then I will be the first in line buying the disks. But until then, I'm just going to be enjoying my TV. Which, is very beautiful..... VERY.....

BTW, the store I went to had the XBR3s for about the same price I paid. And, I definatly like the plasma better.... Not trying to step on you sony boys toes or anything.... Just an FYI....

bumpin_blazer
12-25-2006, 02:47 AM
yeah i'd LOOOVVVEEEE to see either a dual player or one to win the war. i think whichever one makes movies like scarface, godfather, star wars and lord of the rings will win the war. that or how well/poor the ps3 does.

bumpin_blazer
12-25-2006, 02:47 AM
real high def here :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1203061946.jpg


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/1129061811a.jpg

you still have size issues :D

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:48 AM
I might do that.... But what I'm really waiting for is this **** Blue-Ray HD-DVD war to get over. Or for Pioneer to get off the asses and make a double player. Because, then I will be the first in line buying the disks. But until then, I'm just going to be enjoying my TV. Which, is very beautiful..... VERY.....

BTW, the store I went to had the XBR3s for about the same price I paid. And, I definatly like the plasma better.... Not trying to step on you sony boys toes or anything.... Just an FYI....

man i miss my old speakers and sub every day that passes. i get more and more excited cause tax returns are getting closer i am most likely gettin gthe definitive techonology 700s and a matching center channel :)

joetama
12-25-2006, 02:50 AM
man i miss my old speakers and sub every day that passes. i get more and more excited cause tax returns are getting closer i am most likely gettin gthe definitive techonology 700s and a matching center channel :)

Right on man..... It's always fun to get new stuff....

bumpin_blazer
12-25-2006, 02:53 AM
I might do that.... But what I'm really waiting for is this **** Blue-Ray HD-DVD war to get over. Or for Pioneer to get off the asses and make a double player. Because, then I will be the first in line buying the disks. But until then, I'm just going to be enjoying my TV. Which, is very beautiful..... VERY.....

BTW, the store I went to had the XBR3s for about the same price I paid. And, I definatly like the plasma better.... Not trying to step on you sony boys toes or anything.... Just an FYI....

hey no stepping i got my sbrd tv for 900 under retail so i can't complain.

joetama
12-25-2006, 02:55 AM
hey no stepping i got my sbrd tv for 900 under retail so i can't complain.

Yea I payed a bit more than that for the Pioneer ;)..... It was still a great price, I think 90% of my system is the display models.... Also, 5 year full coverage warranty FTMFW!

bumpin_blazer
12-25-2006, 02:57 AM
yeah i didn't get the xbr i have the line right below that, still better than a 9yr old rear projection 42" lol.

1loudsuv
12-25-2006, 02:57 AM
Yea I payed a bit more than that for the Pioneer ;)..... It was still a great price, I think 90% of my system is the display models.... Also, 5 year full coverage warranty FTMFW!

how much did you pay for yours?

i paid 3,500 with tax and two years in house warranty. went to the store the other day and they had it for $800 less :(

joetama
12-25-2006, 03:04 AM
how much did you pay for yours?

i paid 3,500 with tax and two years in house warranty. went to the store the other day and they had it for $800 less :(

Around 3k for the set, then 300 something for the warranty. But, the place I got it does business with my dad's company and the sales dude, which is one of the owners, told me that if I brought it back in a couple of years and had a "problem" they would give me the newest model. Which they actually have done with my brothers stuff he got there. He's gone through 5 Rockford T1 15" and 3 sets of component speakers because the sales dude calls him up says "we have something new & different in the new model". So, Wang blows up his old stuff and takes it over there and gets new.

ngsm13
12-25-2006, 05:17 PM
****.

nG

blazin16v
12-25-2006, 05:20 PM
sony is the shitzzz. anyone experinced blu-ray? got 1 for xmas havent hooked it up yet.

heyman421
12-26-2006, 01:29 AM
i've watched bluray, but never hooked up to an actual 1080P set yet

TooLowTooGo
12-26-2006, 01:30 AM
unles sur like right up agianst the screen it all looks the same, lol

atleast to me it does. I mean in some detail u can tell, but thats only if its not a fast action paced movie

heyman421
12-26-2006, 01:34 AM
ya, i would imagine 1080P would be worth it, tho, if you were getting a REALLY big display

the 1080P sets at best buy are only getting a 720P house feed, so i've never seen ANYTHING 1080P on a true 1080P display :(

i guess they're still relatively new, tho

bumpin_blazer
12-26-2006, 03:08 AM
unles sur like right up agianst the screen it all looks the same, lol

atleast to me it does. I mean in some detail u can tell, but thats only if its not a fast action paced movie

your bass has done a first to my recollection....it's altered your vision lol. i notice a difference from 420i to 720p (ps2 to ps3) and i sure as hell notice a difference from 720p to 1080p.

Scoobydoo
12-26-2006, 05:40 PM
37" Olevia is back in stock at Fry's for $647+shipping($22 for me) :)

I bought mine from them and received it in 2 days

http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5060095?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG