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solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 09:26 AM
I was wondering if this would be good enough for my room. a 2 channel reciever under $200, one 6 inch driver, and sub. And if it is what brands should i get. I don't know much of nething about home audio except that its expensive.

baseballer1100
11-21-2006, 09:27 AM
I would look at ascendant audio.

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 09:30 AM
The HK3380 series is 4ohm stable and produces ~125 or so @ 4 ohms. The only thing I wish it had that it doesn't is an optical audio input. I am trying to research how important it is.

baseballer1100
11-21-2006, 09:32 AM
Other then the reciever how much money can you spend?

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 09:35 AM
i was thinking i would buy a 6inch driver for under 100 and the sub for 100 too and build a box for the sub. I don't have much money to work with, i spent it all on car audio

baseballer1100
11-21-2006, 09:37 AM
Look at ascendant audio if your only wanting one speaker you can get a arbiter tm set for like 80 dollars and a 12 inch assassin for 90 i believe

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 09:42 AM
Look at ascendant audio if your only wanting one speaker you can get a arbiter tm set for like 80 dollars and a 12 inch assassin for 90 i believe

alright thanks, but what receiver brands shoud i look at, all i can find was cheap are sonys n i kno they dont make good caraudio

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 09:42 AM
Here is a link for the reciever: http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-HK3380-Component-Receiver/dp/B0001LXQEU/sr=8-1/qid=1164120403/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-6944868-8094830?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

It's in your budget.

How are you planning to power the sub?

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 09:44 AM
Here is a link for the reciever: http://www.amazon.com/Harman-Kardon-HK3380-Component-Receiver/dp/B0001LXQEU/sr=8-1/qid=1164120403/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-6944868-8094830?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

It's in your budget.

How are you planning to power the sub?

i thought if i got a 2channel reciever 100 X 2 i could put 100 watts in the speaker n 100 in the sub..im probably wrong though

baseballer1100
11-21-2006, 09:45 AM
get a plate amp.

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 09:46 AM
or a rack amp.

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 09:47 AM
so i need to get a 2 channel reciever for the speakers, and a plate amp for the sub?
i though i could get one 6inch driver put 100 watts in that n 100 watts into a sub

baseballer1100
11-21-2006, 09:48 AM
Parts express has some plate amps.

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 09:50 AM
so i need to get a 2 channel reciever for the speakers, and a plate amp for the sub?
i though i could get one 6inch driver put 100 watts in that n 100 watts into a sub

You could do that, but why would you want to? The purpose of the 2 channel is stereo sound. A full range and a sub is not stereo sound.


The bolded part is the best/easiest solution.

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 09:52 AM
how much do the plate/rack amps run

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 10:08 AM
nvm about how much they are, what kinds of wattage for the sub would be good for my room

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 10:10 AM
How big is it? I am planning dual MTMs and dual 12s. Running ~80w to the MTMs and ~250w to each sub. My room is 16*26 but my listen area is much smaller. I don't think too much is required to good sound in a room.

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 10:14 AM
umm i dn yet, im at school right now its not big

Darth Audio
11-21-2006, 10:21 AM
If this is going in a dorm room or bedroom, and you feel comfortable building an enclosure, here is my suggestion for a cheap and reliable sub that will do the job for you:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-480&ctab=2#Tabs

With this amp:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-784

Make the box 1.25 cu. ft. and tune it to 26 hz to get the most from the 70 watts from the amp. I have built this same box for my nephew and it sounds really good in his bedroom. Is it the loudest or cleanest? No, but for $75 plus materials it sounds awesome.

Use the receiver that flipx suggested and maybe a set of the Insignia bookshelf speakers that Best Buy puts on sale about every month and you got a decent budget system. And if you want to get crazy there are all kinds of mods out there for the Insignia's.

joetama
11-21-2006, 10:23 AM
Wait a second. Are you only running a single mid-range speaker for everything that the sub isn't going to run?

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 10:25 AM
Wait a second. Are you only running a single mid-range speaker for everything that the sub isn't going to run?

That was his plan. I think he has decided against it now.

Not a bad rack amp especially if you want two subs:

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=248-749&ctab=14#Tabs

So..here is what you are looking at:

Reciever : $199
Subs: $90 for the AA Aresenals = $180
Sub Amp : $179
Speakers: $80 x 2 (for two way) or $170 x 2 (for MTM) [AA Arbiter series...I would reccomend getting all subs/speakers same brand as I heard it is easier to match tonal qualities]

totals: $718 or $898

for some reason...that's not very budget oriented...

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 10:26 AM
Wait a second. Are you only running a single mid-range speaker for everything that the sub isn't going to run?

I was gunne get one speaker and one sub, but now im going to get a 2-channel reciever, 2 6inch drivers, a sub, and a plate amp

ballstothewall
11-21-2006, 12:11 PM
I was gunne get one speaker and one sub, but now im going to get a 2-channel reciever, 2 6inch drivers, a sub, and a plate amp

Unless you have a FULL RANGE 6" driver, you need a tweeter and a crossover. If you don't it is going to sound like utter crap. I would suggest looking around on the showcase of partsexpress.com and finding something you like and just build that. Since it appears you really don't have a clue what your getting into it will be less of a headache to build something that plans for the enclosure and crossover already exist for.

joetama
11-21-2006, 12:27 PM
Unless you have a FULL RANGE 6" driver, you need a tweeter and a crossover. If you don't it is going to sound like utter crap. I would suggest looking around on the showcase of partsexpress.com and finding something you like and just build that. Since it appears you really don't have a clue what your getting into it will be less of a headache to build something that plans for the enclosure and crossover already exist for.

I would have to agree on that....

dvrmstrng
11-21-2006, 12:37 PM
ha you want cheap and loud...go my route....$40 on a Kenwood VR-305 receiver off ebay....2 sets of floor speakers 1 set onkyo S-31..with 12"s and some mids and highs and some other big *** ones each $20 a pair at two seperate garage sales...$80 spent total..no need for a sub and it gets loud enough to be painful in my dorm

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 01:14 PM
ha you want cheap and loud...go my route....$40 on a Kenwood VR-305 receiver off ebay....2 sets of floor speakers 1 set onkyo S-31..with 12"s and some mids and highs and some other big *** ones each $20 a pair at two seperate garage sales...$80 spent total..no need for a sub and it gets loud enough to be painful in my dorm

Good suggestions...much better than my budget system suggestion...I gotta find a way to trim some fat now... :)

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 02:15 PM
what about running floor standing speakers, like just one tower

joetama
11-21-2006, 02:23 PM
what about running floor standing speakers, like just one tower

Do you not want stereo??????

Calikid
11-21-2006, 02:26 PM
ebay

:woot:

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 04:27 PM
Do you not want stereo??????

im just tryin to spent as little money as possible

joetama
11-21-2006, 04:30 PM
im just tryin to spent as little money as possible

Well this might be my experience talking, but if youíre not going to do it right don't do it at all.....

If this is all that you value your to be system than maybe you donít value it enough to have one. ;)

Flipx99
11-21-2006, 04:32 PM
You can do it cheaply, it is just harder...I find more and more corners to cut, but it is hard to do for less than $800. You can piece it togther bit-by-bit instead of lump-sum and get crap.

TXST8tj
11-21-2006, 05:00 PM
you want to spend as little money as possible?

try this for the stereo receiver: $135
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Sony-Stereo-Receiver-STR-DE197/sem/rpsm/oid/94241/catOid/-12949/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

and these for the speakers: $100
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=5378806&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03043&id=1051806316848


don't take this the wrong way, but it doesn't sound like you will really notice that that stuff is crap. it doesn't really sound like you want to put much into this, and that stuff will get that job done.

as mentioned above, if you don't want to do it right, you're better off not even trying. however, if you insist on cutting corners, just buy cheap crap (^sony stuff above^).

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 05:07 PM
you want to spend as little money as possible?

try this for the stereo receiver: $143
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6305241&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03031&id=1076628923551

and these for the speakers: $100
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=5378806&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03043&id=1051806316848


don't take this the wrong way, but it doesn't sound like you will really notice that that stuff is crap. it doesn't really sound like you want to put much into this, and that stuff will get that job done.

as mentioned above, if you don't want to do it right, you're better off not even trying. however, if you insist on cutting corners, just buy cheap crap (^sony stuff above^).

i guess im gunna have to lol too bad home audio isnt as cheap as car audio

TXST8tj
11-21-2006, 05:14 PM
yeah, HA definitely is not as cheap as car audio.

in all honesty, for that price, i would just do a home theater in a box and at least have surround.

this onkyo HTIAB costs the same as the previously mentioned receiver and speakers:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo-Home-Theater-System-HT-S590S/sem/rpsm/oid/148410/catOid/-12954/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

solidcrowd
11-21-2006, 05:26 PM
i might just do that, y does surround sound seem to be cheaper

ballstothewall
11-21-2006, 05:47 PM
Put it this way, You can have Good, Cheap, or Fast (aquisition of parts)

Pick two.

dvrmstrng
11-30-2006, 02:51 PM
seriously just look at my post...louder than anything else in my entire dorm...enough bass on some songs to rattle stuff clean off the desk...if you want more bass than that add like a dayton 120 sub for $150 shipped to your door