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xtremekustomz
11-18-2006, 10:12 PM
Canton 3 way component set. 10" midbass, 4" midrange, 1" tweeter

http://www.xtremekustomz.net/images/cantonset
http://www.xtremekustomz.net/images/cantonmidbass
http://www.xtremekustomz.net/images/cantonmidrange
http://www.xtremekustomz.net/images/cantoncrossover

adam71
11-19-2006, 12:47 AM
10" midbass??:crap: Where does the madness end?? I mean why in the world would you need a 10" midbass?? Just doesn't make sense to me unless you don't plan on subs.

azbass
11-19-2006, 12:48 AM
bigger woofer ftw! just be carefull of the midbass term....

hatemonger
11-19-2006, 12:49 AM
10" midbass??:crap: Where does the madness end?? I mean why in the world would you need a 10" midbass?? Just doesn't make sense to me unless you don't plan on subs.

maybe, if you are running 4 solo x's. otherwise i agree.

adam71
11-19-2006, 12:49 AM
bigger woofer ftw! just be carefull of the midbass term....

Yes, bigger woofer has its advantages but a 6.5" is MORE than ideal for midbass.

azbass
11-19-2006, 12:50 AM
hehe noob

adam71
11-19-2006, 12:51 AM
maybe, if you are running 4 solo x's. otherwise i agree.

If you're running that many huge subs why even bother with midbass.?? Its not like you would hear much of anything else at that point.

W8 a minute
11-19-2006, 01:48 AM
The size of a speaker only plays a small part in determining what frequencies it will play best at. That 10" might not play below 60hz very well for all we know. It all depends on the suspension, cone weight, etc.

adam71
11-19-2006, 02:05 AM
The size of a speaker only plays a small part in determining what frequencies it will play best at. That 10" might not play below 60hz very well for all we know. It all depends on the suspension, cone weight, etc.

Right. But if that 10" can only play a little below 60hz then it is definitely a waste of space.

xtremekustomz
11-19-2006, 10:36 AM
They designed the set to be used on the rear deck of a car so you didn't actually have to use a subwoofer. This is the old stuff. One of our distributors found them in the warehouse and I got the set brand new for $80. And the 10 can play below 60 hz. The frequency response is 33-30000hz on the set.

Death By Bass
11-19-2006, 10:40 AM
8inch is good up front :)

xtremekustomz
11-19-2006, 10:48 AM
I agree. A 6 1/2" midbass just doesn't work for me. Ive got the Dyaudio set in mine with the 8" up front.

SiX
11-19-2006, 04:53 PM
I have the Canton Pullman RS set with the 8" mids and 1" dome tweets. I couldn't be happier with this old sku gear ... Too bad one of my xovers was crushed in my car wreck.

Would you consider selling this set? ;)

adam71
11-19-2006, 05:14 PM
I agree. A 6 1/2" midbass just doesn't work for me. Ive got the Dyaudio set in mine with the 8" up front.


Sounds to me like you've either never really gave it a chance OR you never had a really good 6.5" driver. I use a 6.5" up front and have midbass to spare. But then again, I don't have 1,000 + watts or more going to my subs so I don't need TONS of midbass to compensate.

xtremekustomz
11-19-2006, 08:33 PM
Sounds to me like you've either never really gave it a chance OR you never had a really good 6.5" driver. I use a 6.5" up front and have midbass to spare. But then again, I don't have 1,000 + watts or more going to my subs so I don't need TONS of midbass to compensate.

I just prefer more myself. I've had a few different 6 1/2. I have had dual 6 1/2" Alpine Type R's in each door which I really liked but needed a change. A single Kicker SSMB 6 in each door which is more like a 7. Um...Alpine Type X, and now I have the Dynaudio System 360 in it. I have 200 watts rms going to each side and 700 watts going to my Image Dynamics IDMAX 12. I'm looking at getting a 400x to put on my midbass and a 200x on my tweeters and one on the midrange. You can NEVER have too much power! Also my sub doesn't overpower anything in my truck. It may be 2 db louder than the midbass and the crossover point is at 50 hz. I like for everything to sound like it is coming from up ront

Death By Bass
11-19-2006, 08:38 PM
heres my work in progress:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186058

I just started attacking the tweeter mounting today :)

adam71
11-19-2006, 08:38 PM
I just prefer more myself. I've had a few different 6 1/2. I have had dual 6 1/2" Alpine Type R's in each door which I really liked but needed a change. A single Kicker SSMB 6 in each door which is more like a 7. Um...Alpine Type X, and now I have the Dynaudio System 360 in it. I have 200 watts rms going to each side and 700 watts going to my Image Dynamics IDMAX 12. I'm looking at getting a 400x to put on my midbass and a 200x on my tweeters and one on the midrange. You can NEVER have too much power! Also my sub doesn't overpower anything in my truck. It may be 2 db louder than the midbass and the crossover point is at 50 hz. I like for everything to sound like it is coming from up ront

Well, I've always said to each his own. If it works for your truck then it works. Its just my opinion that anything over a 6.5" isn't necessary as I've seen many setups with that configuration but its still up to the owner and what he prefers.

Sounds like a nice setup in your truck. Wish I could hear it.

xtremekustomz
11-19-2006, 08:47 PM
I wired the canton midrange up last night in my truck and it isn't as detailed as the Dynadio midrange. They are good no doubt, just not as good. I might just make a nice L & R setup for my home audio system with them :)

I'm going to be putting my midbass and midrange in the kick panel area soon. Or just as soon as I can figure out what vehicle I want to do. I'm soooooo ready to get started on it.

thadman
11-19-2006, 08:49 PM
from all the distortion measurements ive seen...NO 6.5/7" could maintain the same low levels of distortion into the midbass region. The distortion goes through the roof beyond 100hz...

just so we're all on the same lines...(accepted octave definition by recording studios)

20-40hz = lowbass
40-80hz= midbass
80-160hz= highbass
160-320hz=lower midrange
320-640hz mid midrange
640-1.28khz upper midrange
1.28-2.56k lower treble
2.56-5.12k mid treble
5.12k-10.24k upper treble
10-20k top octave

adam71
11-19-2006, 08:55 PM
from all the distortion measurements ive seen...NO 6.5/7" could maintain the same low levels of distortion into the midbass region. The distortion goes through the roof beyond 100hz...

just so we're all on the same lines...(accepted octave definition by recording studios)

20-40hz = lowbass
40-80hz= midbass
80-160hz= highbass
160-320hz=lower midrange
320-640hz mid midrange
640-1.28khz upper midrange
1.28-2.56k lower treble
2.56-5.12k mid treble
5.12k-10.24k upper treble
10-20k top octave


Are you talking about a 6.5" that is being used as a dedicated midbass or a 6.5" that is being used for midrange and midbass in a 2 way setup.??

Also, I doubt the distortion that you would get from a 6.5" compared to a 8" woofer would even be audible.

xtremekustomz
11-19-2006, 09:02 PM
My midbass runs from 50 hz up to 900, my midrange takes over from 900 and goes up to 4500 and the tweeter takes over from there. I have no audible distortion with volume at max.

theCybe
11-19-2006, 10:50 PM
Installed pix or die. What vehicle? :)