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explorer2
11-05-2006, 12:02 PM
How would I use a relay(s) to connect the door lock outputs on my avital 4100 to the 5 wire door locks on my 93 ford explorer?

KaeZoo
11-05-2006, 12:43 PM
If you haven't purchased the relays yet, buy a Directed 451M lock module. Otherwise use this (http://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#5w) diagram.

azbass
11-05-2006, 12:47 PM
dei modules ****, stick with useing the diagram and two relays, its easy to do.

explorer2
11-05-2006, 12:49 PM
I already have two bosch 5 wire spdt relays, thanks for the diagram

azbass
11-05-2006, 01:13 PM
make sure you fuse your power for the relays

KaeZoo
11-05-2006, 01:18 PM
dei modules ****, stick with useing the diagram and two relays, its easy to do.

A 451M is just a 2-relay pack that includes instructions for various door lock types and fits Directed lock/unlock output plugs. Since it's made to fit his Avital alarm, it would simplify things for an inexperienced installer. No point in buying it if he already has relays, though.

explorer2
11-05-2006, 08:37 PM
Next question, is there any sort of time delay relay I can use to delay the starter trigger for 10- 15 seconds to simulate a diesel wait to start light?
Edit: The specs say it has a turbo timer, would I be able to set a delay on the unit, or would I need a directed pulse timer relay?

ngsm13
11-05-2006, 09:13 PM
Should have a glow plug wire.

nG

explorer2
11-05-2006, 09:32 PM
Thanks, that makes everything easy.

Shyne151
11-05-2006, 09:32 PM
dei modules ****, stick with useing the diagram and two relays, its easy to do.

I've had problems with dei bypasses, but never anything like a 451m... *shrug*

And ngsm is right you're going to want to use the glowplug(wait to start) wire, should be a grey/black wire on your factory alarm disarm harness, if you're useing a dei product...

What kind of car is it for?

explorer2
11-05-2006, 09:40 PM
93 ford explorer I know how to wire everything up, its just figuring out what gos where thats difficult. Luckily its a pretty simple car except for the door locks.
One more question, the neutral safety switch is Not Grounding, OEM Switch opens Starter Circuit how does this get hooked up?

Shyne151
11-05-2006, 09:52 PM
93 ford explorer I know how to wire everything up, its just figuring out what gos where thats difficult. Luckily its a pretty simple car except for the door locks.
One more question, the neutral safety switch is Not Grounding, OEM Switch opens Starter Circuit how does this get hooked up?


Is the car a stick? if not just ground out the wire straight to the chasis(bare metal whatever). I don't know if thats the question you're looking for an answer for or not...

azbass
11-05-2006, 09:54 PM
thats right , my mistake, that relay pack is good. im just used to wireing my own relays and not messing with any dei stuff...

Shyne151
11-05-2006, 09:56 PM
thats right , my mistake, that relay pack is good. im just used to wireing my own relays and not messing with any dei stuff...

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, I was just saying I haven't had any problems with 451m's(where as i have had problems with their bypasses). All we sell is dei stuff so everything comes with them, so I just use them...

ngsm13
11-05-2006, 10:49 PM
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, I was just saying I haven't had any problems with 451m's(where as i have had problems with their bypasses). All we sell is dei stuff so everything comes with them, so I just use them...

Indeed. I like 451m's, make it simple... even use them for other **** requiring relays... not just door locks .

nG

explorer2
11-06-2006, 03:46 PM
Is the car a stick? if not just ground out the wire straight to the chasis(bare metal whatever). I don't know if thats the question you're looking for an answer for or not...

That what I'm looking for, its an auto w/ column, shift and you can shift without the key in the ignition anyways and cant start unless its in par/neutral.