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Jtsky
10-30-2006, 08:37 PM
I want some 6.5" coax for my front stage. There will be no rear fill and probably 1-10 or 1-12 for sub bass. For now they will run off the alpine head unit but eventually they will be amped. I want nice mids with crisp, some would say harsh highs. Not to harsh though.

Edit to add - My dad has infiniti coaxials in his truck and they are just a little to harsh for me. So something just a LITTLE milder than that.

alteraudiousa
10-30-2006, 08:56 PM
why spend that on coaxials when you could get components which will do better for a frontstage only and espcially if you plan on amping them. DOn't wawste the cash on coax.

Jtsky
10-30-2006, 09:22 PM
Well I am not to concerned with imaging and I dont want to bother with making kicks.

MTXman
10-30-2006, 09:28 PM
no doors? :D

jeeper07
10-30-2006, 09:30 PM
i have some bravox audios for 160 shipped.. they are brand new... let me know if interested

ultimate157
10-30-2006, 11:53 PM
You can grab a set of CDT CL-61A's with an upgraded 1" TW-24 for $150+ ship. I wouldn't spend money on coax's if you have the money to go for better. check my link to the site where you can grab them.

95stroked1500
10-31-2006, 12:10 AM
look into crystal ssx 615 for a coax. they fall within your budget with $ left over. they will out do your expectations.

Jtsky
10-31-2006, 07:28 AM
I just dont know if I want to deal with mounting a component speaker setup. I know it is going to be tough to get the 6.5" in the doors. Where could I mount the tweeter?

Raven
10-31-2006, 12:25 PM
Speakers can be mounted just about anywhere. Their light weight makes them easy to tape / glue / velcro wherever they sound best. I keep mine in the top corners of my dash, but right next to the mids and the A pillars also works.

If you decide on coaxials, take a listen to Pioneer Revs (Yellow cone) from a local dealer. They have rep as a very nice sounding set of coaxials.

Jtsky
11-01-2006, 12:20 AM
Anywhere reputable to get rev's online for less than $150?

95stroked1500
11-01-2006, 12:37 AM
rev's sound good.

crystals ssx is a coax model, if you thought i was saying component.

mlstrass
11-01-2006, 03:37 AM
I'm running the 6.5" REV's for rear fill, amped and they get loud and sound good.

Millionbuy has them for $75....

EDIT: Circuit City has them, so you can listen to them first, but don't pay the $150+

camry_tuner
11-01-2006, 06:38 AM
sonicelectronix has em for around 85 iirc

Jtsky
11-01-2006, 07:30 AM
Thanks for the sites guys. That is a lot cheaper than I thought I would end up paying. I will probably end up getting those.

PremierAudio
11-01-2006, 08:13 AM
Dont forget to check out CDTs products. They sound like they might fit your criteria well.

RMF419
11-01-2006, 03:36 PM
rev's sound good.

crystals ssx is a coax model, if you thought i was saying component.

Cannot go wrong with these. Crystal ssx 615

Jtsky
11-01-2006, 10:02 PM
Where can I get these ssx 615's for the cheapest? Would you say they have stronger mids than the pioneer revs?

Thanks for the help guys.

Jtsky
11-02-2006, 09:06 PM
Bump - Anyone know where I can get those ssx 615's?

95stroked1500
11-03-2006, 04:41 AM
i can get them for you.

i never got a chance to side by side test them against the pio rev's. i haven't spend a whole lot of time with the rev's to remember all the details about them. i just remember that i heard them and i liked them for their all around sound. didn't get to push them full bore to see what they could do or for how long. i don't think you will go wrong either way.

Pyro_By_Nature
11-04-2006, 05:42 AM
I wish people would quit mentioning those piece of **** CDT's.They ****** when they came out, they still **** now.No surprise.

Pioneer revs. would be the wise decision here, from my knowledge.I don't have any experience with the crystals.

duckfart
11-05-2006, 03:58 AM
Get some PG Xenons, you can mount them as co-axials. I'm loving mines , they sound better than the CDT comps I replaced.

Jtsky
11-05-2006, 04:30 PM
Alright, thanks guys. I am going with the revs.

Jtsky
11-07-2006, 09:03 PM
http://www.millionbuy.com/piotsd161r.html

I am planning to buy the rev's from here, but I cant tell if the speaker grill adds to much depth. Does anyone have any pics of these mounted coax?

The other thing that confuses me is when I see a picture like on this site

http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=TSC160R&Pioneer%20TSC160R%20Rev%206.5%20Inch%20%20250W%20C omponent%20Speaker

And it looks like they cant be mounted coax.

BassTurd
11-07-2006, 10:44 PM
Cannot go wrong with these. Crystal ssx 615


Another vote for the Crystal 615's. I can't believe how good they sound.

Notwerk
11-08-2006, 05:09 PM
No, Revs are sold as either coax or comp. They aren't convertable. They're good speakers, by the way.

The grill won't be necessary if it's being mounted inside the door, behind the panel. Are you mounting yours differently?

skmfkr
11-08-2006, 05:23 PM
why spend that on coaxials when you could get components which will do better for a frontstage only and espcially if you plan on amping them. DOn't wawste the cash on coax.

i would get the cdt cl6ex's from alteraudio lol

Jtsky
11-08-2006, 06:44 PM
No, Revs are sold as either coax or comp. They aren't convertable. They're good speakers, by the way.

The grill won't be necessary if it's being mounted inside the door, behind the panel. Are you mounting yours differently?

Oh, ok. Now I get it. So do you guys know where I can get them coax for cheap?

Just did some searching - It seems the model number of the coax rev's is TS-D161R. I found them on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0008090W6/nextag-ce-20/ref=nosim

Are those the ones I want? Now I only have one concern, and that is that the component version sound better, and everyone who is reccomending them to me was listening to the component version. So anyone who reccomended them to me, you used the coax version right?

Thanks for the help

MisterGrubbs
11-08-2006, 07:22 PM
Not to thread jack, because this guy may be curious as well

But the SSX vs REVs - how much power can each handle daily? I've heard testimonies that the REVs sound good and get **** loud, but Crystal is known for quality

Will The Crystals hold on to 150x2 daily and not take a dive for the worst?

Once again, sorry to thread jack

Jtsky
11-08-2006, 08:39 PM
The revs are only rated for 60 wrms I think. What do you guys reccomend for them power wise?

BTW, I am ready to order. Are these

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0008090W6/nextag-ce-20/ref=nosim

the ones I want?

95stroked1500
11-08-2006, 11:09 PM
when the ssx 615 first became available (which was months before the sscs 6 was), i took out the dyns in my wifes truck and put the ssx 615 in thier place. the amp is a US Amps AX TU 600. 150w x 2. they took it pretty darn good. only a couple notches less on the volume than what i coule push the dyns at.


xover point, music type, will be factors in how well they take it. the ssx 615 doesn't have the mechanical travel the sscs does. shorter voice coil is one of the very few difference between them.

xluben
11-09-2006, 02:06 AM
http://www.millionbuy.com/piotsd161r.html

that's where i got mine.

sound very good. had the infinity reference's before and they were way too harsh.

these sound great and get loud.

Notwerk
11-09-2006, 02:29 AM
You'd do well to get them from the link posted above (millionbuy)

Here's the deal with components vs. coax:

The advantage of a component is that it allows you to install the tweeter wherever you want. That can be a good thing, especially if you're willing to do the sort of install work that would capitalize on that capability (i.e., sailpods, a-pillars, etc.) You can move them around and decide where it sounds best.

But that doesn't always mean components are better. In some instances, coax is actually better because the sound originates from the same point. That cuts down on differences between pathlengths that might normally take a bit of time-alignment to nail down. Some manufacturers are starting to recognize this (and also that many people don't or can't do extra work on their cars) and building convertable sets or high-end coaxes. There is still a stigma that coaxes are "low-end," but there's much less truth to that statement than there once was. Case in point, Morel Integra Ovations, a coax that would make mincemeat of most components.

So, the question is this: In your install, do you plan to mount the tweeters somewhere else? If you don't see yourself glassing or cutting panels, and your car doesn't already have a place to mount tweeters, a better set of coaxes might be exactly what you're looking for.

The Pioneer Revs are good speakers, and they don't cost a lot. If you want good tunes for every day driving, they'll fit the bill and then some. With a bit of sound deadening, they'll definitely sound great and will surprise you.

No, it's not the cornerstone of am IASCA competition system, but it's all a matter of what you're looking for.

Jtsky
11-09-2006, 10:19 AM
I ordered them last night from amazon. What kind of power do you guys run to the pioneer rev coax?

mlstrass
11-10-2006, 03:03 AM
I've got a set for rear fill, using a 160x2 amp with the gain WAY down. They don't seem to need much power, but get loud and sound good. You'll be happy with them.