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hzsogood
10-30-2006, 12:18 AM
Looking at new Tv's just to get a nice big screen with HD so i can get with the program and have a nice lil gaming TV as well.. So looking for pros and cons of each , As it is right now im looking at a 61" Samsung DLP for about $3000.. So let me know it all Whats the top brands overall and for $$, What do i look for and about maintenence Bulbs etc thanks

Matt

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 12:49 AM
And that $3k is about my budget , so in those guidelines, bigger than 55"

atoz350
10-30-2006, 01:03 AM
Well if the 61" Samsung that you are looking at is the 1080p resolution one, that is the best on the market right now, next to the Sony SXRD TVs. There aren't any plasma TVs that can reach 1080p resolution as far as I know. Plasma TVs have an extended life expectancy of about 4-6 years compared to DLP's 2-3 years. However, plasma TVs cannot be repaired once they burn out. DLP TVs are user (shop) serviceable where they have replaceable bulbs. They cost about $400-$500 to service. Anything else you want to know ask me. I may have left something out.

Randy Savage
10-30-2006, 01:06 AM
Who told you Plasma's only last 4-6 years?!?!?!

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 01:20 AM
Well if the 61" Samsung that you are looking at is the 1080p resolution one, that is the best on the market right now, next to the Sony SXRD TVs. There aren't any plasma TVs that can reach 1080p resolution as far as I know. Plasma TVs have an extended life expectancy of about 4-6 years compared to DLP's 2-3 years. However, plasma TVs cannot be repaired once they burn out. DLP TVs are user (shop) serviceable where they have replaceable bulbs. They cost about $400-$500 to service. Anything else you want to know ask me. I may have left something out.

hmmm 4-500 every 2 yrs or so... that gets real spendy kind of but more so a pain in the ***.. But yea the samsung was at best buy 61 " 1080p.. I ve beeen out of the electronics loop for a while, ... I thought samsung used to be a cheaper compaany , and sony, panasonic hitachi where hi end screens

Bolognablake
10-30-2006, 01:35 AM
hmmm 4-500 every 2 yrs or so... that gets real spendy kind of but more so a pain in the ***..

No, that information is incorrect.

DLP (and LCD projection) bulbs will cost anywhere from $75-300, most of which are in the $200 range. You can do it your self, it's almost idiot proof. For most TVs, all you will need is a Philips-head screw driver.

Most plasma made in 2005-up should have a minimum life expectancy of 50,000 hours.

springy101
10-30-2006, 01:38 AM
Well if the 61" Samsung that you are looking at is the 1080p resolution one, that is the best on the market right now, next to the Sony SXRD TVs. There aren't any plasma TVs that can reach 1080p resolution as far as I know. Plasma TVs have an extended life expectancy of about 4-6 years compared to DLP's 2-3 years. However, plasma TVs cannot be repaired once they burn out. DLP TVs are user (shop) serviceable where they have replaceable bulbs. They cost about $400-$500 to service. Anything else you want to know ask me. I may have left something out.

actually most have a life of about 60,000 hours so thats a lot longer than 10 years, more like 15, and thats if you watch tv a lot

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 02:00 AM
No, that information is incorrect.

DLP (and LCD projection) bulbs will cost anywhere from $75-300, most of which are in the $200 range. You can do it your self, it's almost idiot proof. For most TVs, all you will need is a Philips-head screw driver.

Most plasma made in 2005-up should have a minimum life expectancy of 50,000 hours.


Just to clear things up , are lcd and dlp close to the same or what, sorry its gettin a lil late and im trying to find out exactly what i should look at since pppl in here know a helluva lot more than me

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 02:08 AM
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7705897&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050031&id=1138085317167

This was the one i was looking at, but just also wondering whats the deal with the CRT's do they have the same pic quality as the smaller DLP's like this one , >?? Cuz if so id save myself about 1500 bux and be able to get the same size and quality , since i have the room for it anyways

heyman421
10-30-2006, 06:38 AM
I find that CRTs still have the best image quality for ordinary cable, but if you're getting into high-definition, the other types look better ...

I personally would go with an LCD flat panel ...

And, no, LCD and DLP are not the same ... Not even remotely close ...

CRT has always been the best picture, period

but rear projection HD CRT televisions are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I personally think the DLP rear projection TV's look fantastic, as long as it's got a 3x or better colorwheel speed. There's even high-end DLP projectors that have seperate chips for each color, but they're in the "PRO" pricerange, but movie-theater quality.

I don't care for rear projection LCD's.

And i think LCD flat-screens look better than plasma.

But $ for $, i'd take a big ol' DLP rear projection over a flat screen any day of the week.

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 12:00 PM
I find that CRTs still have the best image quality for ordinary cable, but if you're getting into high-definition, the other types look better ...

I personally would go with an LCD flat panel ...

And, no, LCD and DLP are not the same ... Not even remotely close ...

whats the difference then

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 12:03 PM
CRT has always been the best picture, period

but rear projection HD CRT televisions are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I personally think the DLP rear projection TV's look fantastic, as long as it's got a 3x or better colorwheel speed. There's even high-end DLP projectors that have seperate chips for each color, but they're in the "PRO" pricerange, but movie-theater quality.

I don't care for rear projection LCD's.

And i think LCD flat-screens look better than plasma.

But $ for $, i'd take a big ol' DLP rear projection over a flat screen any day of the week.

The big ol dlp crt ? Like i said i have the room and the 60 inch cdt i was lookin at was about $2000 and the 61" samsung flatscreen dlp was 3000 or 2800, somewhere in there.. Whatevers gonna be a good screen for the next 10 yrs

heyman421
10-30-2006, 06:11 PM
CRT is a tube (a TV), or tubes (projection)
DLP is a lightbulb, a mirror, and a colorwheel.
And LCD is a lightbulb, and 3 colored lcd grids.

They all have ups and downs. CRT's only down being cost, and size. They have THE best picture, and the longest life, pending accidently damage, obviously.

Read up on each, and try and see each for yourself, side by side. There's really no other way to know what you like best. Just like car audio specifications, there's no mandatory standard for measurement of things like brightness, or contrast, so without seeing each of the TV's, you don't know what you're really getting.

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 06:14 PM
CRT is a tube (a TV), or tubes (projection)
DLP is a lightbulb, a mirror, and a colorwheel.
And LCD is a lightbulb, and 3 colored lcd grids.

They all have ups and downs. CRT's only down being cost, and size. They have THE best picture, and the longest life, pending accidently damage, obviously.

Read up on each, and try and see each for yourself, side by side. There's really no other way to know what you like best. Just like car audio specifications, there's no mandatory standard for measurement of things like brightness, or contrast, so without seeing each of the TV's, you don't know what you're really getting.

Gotcha, just wanted opinions for the most part on what is a good tv, but then it started going a different direction.. So that samsung im hoping would be a good tv

Rich B
10-30-2006, 06:22 PM
Looking at new Tv's just to get a nice big screen with HD so i can get with the program and have a nice lil gaming TV as well.. So looking for pros and cons of each , As it is right now im looking at a 61" Samsung DLP for about $3000.. So let me know it all Whats the top brands overall and for $$, What do i look for and about maintenence Bulbs etc thanks

Matt


If you do much gaming dont buy a plasma, they suffer from image burn if theres any static images left on screen for too long.

DLP, LCD (flat panel or rear projection), or LCOS (JVC, higher end Sony rear projection) are the only safe choices.

thylantyr
10-30-2006, 06:50 PM
I wouldn't buy plasma unless I was rich and had disposable income. The neighbors plasma died {motherboard} in less than a year. It's under warranty,
three months lead time for the repair. I guess the same is true for any piece
of electronics, it has the potential to fail. lol

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 06:54 PM
im really set on that 61" samsung DLP 1080p:yumyum:

heyman421
10-30-2006, 08:06 PM
the DLP chips are only made by TI, so you're gauranteed a well-made part.

some older (slower) DLP chips give people headaches, and if you're watching something with a lot of action, where you're moving your eyes back and forth across the screen, you'll actually see the red, green, and blue images seperate.... it's really distracting.

the 1x and 2x wheels are notorious for this. some people still see it with 3x..... 4x is honestly pretty good, unless you've got a seriously huge screen, i think they go all the way to 6x now, and then they go to seperate green, red, and blue chips

And the colorwheels are in different configurations, as well. The original ones were 3 color, and then they made a 4 color (with a white section) for better contrast. Now there's 4 segment, 6 segment, 8 segment wheels, i don't even know what other configurations exist anymore.

Just don't buy it without watching it for a while.

1loudsuv
10-30-2006, 08:31 PM
im really set on that 61" samsung DLP 1080p:yumyum:

very good tv look in the xbr1 or even the newer xbr2 i have the 60" xbr1 i paid 3,500 for it could be cheaper now but it had the best picture quality i have seen on a rear projection tv....

also bulbs are around 200 they last anywehre from 4000-7000 hours and eazy to replace


look at cnet for some reviews

also rear projection use around 200-300 watts


okay now onto plasma

50" 1080p pioneer has better picture quality then my xbr1 but its 8 grand

also plasmas tend to use 2x the electricity

but the vieving angle is much better on plasmas on projection tvs you got to be almost infront of it


whatever you buy dont forget to get an hd-dvd player better picture quality then hd cable big time. more consistent good picture quality then blue ray and cheaper then blue ray players.

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 08:35 PM
the DLP chips are only made by TI, so you're gauranteed a well-made part.

some older (slower) DLP chips give people headaches, and if you're watching something with a lot of action, where you're moving your eyes back and forth across the screen, you'll actually see the red, green, and blue images seperate.... it's really distracting.

the 1x and 2x wheels are notorious for this. some people still see it with 3x..... 4x is honestly pretty good, unless you've got a seriously huge screen, i think they go all the way to 6x now, and then they go to seperate green, red, and blue chips

And the colorwheels are in different configurations, as well. The original ones were 3 color, and then they made a 4 color (with a white section) for better contrast. Now there's 4 segment, 6 segment, 8 segment wheels, i don't even know what other configurations exist anymore.

Just don't buy it without watching it for a while.


makes sense , finally



very good tv look in the xbr1 or even the newer xbr2 i have the 60" xbr1 i paid 3,500 for it could be cheaper now but it had the best picture quality i have seen on a rear projection tv....

also bulbs are around 200 they last anywehre from 4000-7000 hours and eazy to replace


look at cnet for some reviews

also rear projection use around 200-300 watts


okay now onto plasma

50" 1080p pioneer has better picture quality then my xbr1 but its 8 grand

also plasmas tend to use 2x the electricity

but the vieving angle is much better on plasmas on projection tvs you got to be almost infront of it


whatever you buy dont forget to get an hd-dvd player better picture quality then hd cable big time. more consistent good picture quality then blue ray and cheaper then blue ray players.


ty for the reply.. i think im gonna go w the samsung dlp.. seems hi quality and a few hundred bux every 5 yrs is nothn compared to the quality of HD to me

supa_c
10-30-2006, 08:39 PM
LCoS front projector :D

1loudsuv
10-30-2006, 08:40 PM
looky looky

xbr1 top on the list ;)

http://reviews.cnet.com/4323-6531_7-6509125.html?tag=dir

Orion Man
10-30-2006, 08:44 PM
Who told you Plasma's only last 4-6 years?!?!?!

I agree with Tylantyr. I deliver electronics for a living. We are constantly exchanging plasmas for either LCDs' or DLPs' because they have gone out. The customer usually purchases our extended 5yr warr. and it pays off in the end. I have seen very few plasmas make it past out warr.

I highly reccommend either the Samsung, the Sony SXRD, or the new Mitsubishi DLPs'. All are great TVs, its all your preference. Good luck!

supa_c
10-30-2006, 09:12 PM
looky looky

xbr1 top on the list ;)

http://reviews.cnet.com/4323-6531_7-6509125.html?tag=dir

Thats about the only thing sony does right...video

hzsogood
10-30-2006, 11:16 PM
I agree with Tylantyr. I deliver electronics for a living. We are constantly exchanging plasmas for either LCDs' or DLPs' because they have gone out. The customer usually purchases our extended 5yr warr. and it pays off in the end. I have seen very few plasmas make it past out warr.

I highly reccommend either the Samsung, the Sony SXRD, or the new Mitsubishi DLPs'. All are great TVs, its all your preference. Good luck!

:)

bumpin_blazer
10-31-2006, 03:57 PM
not to hijack the thread but what do you guys think of this TV:http://www.lacks.com/Sony50In.GrandWega3LCDHDRPTV_P17050.php

heyman421
10-31-2006, 07:18 PM
I wouldn't buy an LCD unless it was a panasonic, or an LCOS.

Most lcd projectors suffer from bad contrast ratios, very noticeable pixel seperation, or screendoor effect, and either lower bulb life, or lower brightness depending on the model.

The colors are generally nicer than DLP's (although this becoming less-so with the new 6+ colorhweels, and greater colorwheel speeds) and LCD's picture will actually fade over time, because the light actually shines THROUGH the LCD panels, which fades them gradually.

Panasonic makes hands down the best traditional LCD projection display that i've ever seen, and the new LCOS loses some sharpness compared to traditional LCD, but has better life, and less noticeable pixelation.

bumpin_blazer
10-31-2006, 07:44 PM
only reason i was thinking of that one is it's a sony and rated as one of the better one's.

hzsogood
10-31-2006, 07:50 PM
only reason i was thinking of that one is it's a sony and rated as one of the better one's.

samsung or toshiba imo before that one, plus you can get em in 1080p

bumpin_blazer
10-31-2006, 08:26 PM
i'm limited in what i can get per one of my connections i have. how about this one then:http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=50hm66

hzsogood
10-31-2006, 09:41 PM
i'm limited in what i can get per one of my connections i have. how about this one then:http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=50hm66

looks nice , but seems pricey compared to others and its only 720p

QtrHorse
10-31-2006, 09:53 PM
That's 720 for HD, I believe that is the second highest you can go for HD. The rest of the specs will most likely look something like below.

1366 x 768 pixel resolution; accepts all major DV signals, including 1080i, 720p, 480p, plus standard 480i

hzsogood
10-31-2006, 10:07 PM
Yea but with true 1080p HD in the future you might as welll just be ready when your spending $3000.. And that 1920x1080 is gonna be quite the dif imo

QtrHorse
10-31-2006, 10:10 PM
Buying a TV now is like buying a computer, there will be a better version out in 3-6 months.

bumpin_blazer
10-31-2006, 10:11 PM
i'm between the 50" Sony 3LCD i linked and that Toshiba. They both come with good and bad reviews and are both within my price and size range. I think both have a 46" model as well but I'll look at them tomorrow and figure it out. I know i want either a 1080i or 1080p top res.

bumpin_blazer
10-31-2006, 10:14 PM
Buying a TV now is like buying a computer, there will be a better version out in 3-6 months.

agreed but when you turn on the TV and the word "House is next" is clearly displayed in a 3-layer picture of red/green/blue i'd say i need a new one lol.

hzsogood
10-31-2006, 10:45 PM
here s the 3 im looking at.. comparison chart

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-CgW9cpOO2L0/cgi-bin/ProdComp.asp?g=147350&c=16&s=0&cc=01&pt2=0&compareitems=305HLS6187&compareitems=05262MX196&compareitems=15860A2000&x=31&y=1

bumpin_blazer
10-31-2006, 11:07 PM
wish i could justify 3g's for a tv but at 22 i can't do that lol.

hzsogood
10-31-2006, 11:34 PM
Buying a TV now is like buying a computer, there will be a better version out in 3-6 months.

true but.. There not as drastic as a computer and last alot longer,computer technology is good for a few years, a high end 1080p tv will still be good 10 yrs from now,, i mean what else could you need, it has HD, HD cable, cable cards, 1080 resolution.. This stuff wont be outdted for a while. and for the most part are used much more, hell if i could hook up my lap top to a 60" tv i dont think i d ever turn the tv off between tv, computer, gaming, movies, sports etc.. I just cant wait to see 360 and ps3 on a nice 60"

bumpin_blazer
10-31-2006, 11:56 PM
i asked around to my bud that works for BB and knows an assload about tv's. he said out of the 2 i was looking at that i linked on here, the sony is 10 times better in customer satisfaction and return rates. i think i'll go with the 42 or 50" Gran Wega 3LCD even though it's a pitiful 1080i ;).

supa_c
11-01-2006, 02:04 AM
Thats probably the onlt time jmac will reccomend sony...

supa_c
11-01-2006, 04:37 AM
:waycrazy: :nutskick: :thumbsdo: :tomatofa: :thumbdwn: :nono: :lightnin:

heyman421
11-01-2006, 06:23 AM
720P looks just as good as 1080i, imo.

But 1080 scaled to 720 looks like a$$, so i'd definitely find something that's 1080 native, even if it isn't 1080i capable.

And although i've yet to see a 1080p picture, if it's anything like the difference between 720i and 720p, it's probably MINDBLOWING.

supa_c
11-01-2006, 01:03 PM
Actual compression is like 16:1 so real HDTV is still scaled down...

Shinobi
11-01-2006, 01:24 PM
I see a slight edge in 1080p over 1080i but I couldnt justify the costs when better Tv's are goning to be here in the near future. Sharp already has one that has higher resolution the 1080p .

bumpin_blazer
11-01-2006, 01:31 PM
i didn't even think cable's could do a true 1080p yet?

hzsogood
11-01-2006, 07:04 PM
i didn't even think cable's could do a true 1080p yet?

it cant but you might as well be ready if your spending this much for a tv

bumpin_blazer
11-01-2006, 08:37 PM
it was more for the guy saying samsung had a TV out that was higher than 1080p. i don't see the point when nobody can even do 1080p yet and HDTV is still what 720?

bumpin_blazer
11-01-2006, 11:56 PM
if shinobi said it, then it must be true jmac gosh :D.

hzsogood
11-02-2006, 12:00 AM
and the difference between 1080i and 1080 p is what...???? HAs anyone on here ever even seen the difference to compare

bumpin_blazer
11-02-2006, 12:08 AM
Bluray and HD DVD are both 1080p ...

HDTV is 720p or 1080i ...

ahhhh i stand corrected although i thought hdtv was either 720p or 1080i. it's all good i'm picking up my 55" Sony Grand Wega SXRD :D. convinced the fiance it was better than the 3LCD so she said ok.

1loudsuv
11-02-2006, 02:07 AM
ahhhh i stand corrected although i thought hdtv was either 720p or 1080i. it's all good i'm picking up my 55" Sony Grand Wega SXRD :D. convinced the fiance it was better than the 3LCD so she said ok.

just so you and others know

DVD IS NOT HIGH DEFINITION ITS ONLY 480P

not saying you dont know but just incase i know i didnt know a couple of months back

so what game system do you have? or do you plan on buying the ps3?

if you have teh xbox 360 i recomend getting the hd-dvd add on its 199 comes with king kong hd-dvd and a media remote

im buying one on tuesday since my hd-dvd player broke this week and it will probably take 2 weeks to get it fixed but just incase if it breaks again ill have the add on :yumyum:

and hd-dvd is superior to anything ive ever seen. cable hd,over the air hd

blue ray can look as good just it seems to be a hit and miss thing sometimes it looks good sometimes so so sometimes crap. they seem to be getting their stuff together but not quite yet. "movie wise"

oh yah blue ray is 1080p samsung $1000 panasonic $1200
the new hd-dvd toshiba xa2 is 1080p also $1000
so is the xbox 360 add on but the add on only has component output no hdmi $199

while both the toshiba and blue ray players have hdmi

but if you can live with 1080i the toshiba is 500 (a1 or a2)compared to blue ray players costing 1000+ besides the ps3 wich is a good deal but its gonna be extremely hard getting your hands on one for a couple of months

SAG3
11-02-2006, 02:19 AM
On the 360 if you get the VGA cables all dvd's and games capable are upscaled to 1080p, FTW.

heyman421
11-02-2006, 09:56 AM
and the difference between 1080i and 1080 p is what...???? HAs anyone on here ever even seen the difference to compare

Well, the difference between 720i and 720p is HUGE!

720p looks almost as good as 1080i.

progressive scan makes a REALLY big difference

1080i gives me eyestrain, where 720P looks every bit as crisp and detailed, without the headache, so i would imagine 1080P will be a giant leap compared to 1080i

bumpin_blazer
11-02-2006, 06:43 PM
PS3 for x-mas and i'm getting a blu-ray for x-mas so i'm gonna be a happy man:D. i might opt for rims instead of the blu-ray though since i'm snagging the ps3 and all.

1loudsuv
11-04-2006, 02:37 AM
so hzgood what tv did you buy or still thinking it through? and bumping blazer post some pix :D dont forget a good audio setup makes movie watching better also.

i got 5.1 but since my hd-dvd a1 player has analog outputs and decodes dolby digital plus and truhd i get that and boy does it sound better then regular dts. at first i never noticed till my player recently broke on monday and ive been watching dvds. thank god for best buy hooking it up today and getting my player back

hzsogood
11-04-2006, 02:44 AM
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-AegOnJlAlOe/cgi-bin/ProdComp.asp?g=147350&c=16&s=0&cc=01&pt2=0&compareitems=05262MX196&compareitems=305HLS6188&compareitems=158SR60XB2&x=23&y=6



these 3 for sure .. maybe the 61 " samsung

Pistonsfan70
11-04-2006, 02:44 AM
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/pistonsfan70/DSC01445.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/pistonsfan70/DSC01455.jpg

That is a DLP TV that is here http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Mitsubishi-65-1080p-DLP-Projection-HDTV-WD-Y65/sem/rpsm/oid/156666/catOid/-12870/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do



My dad has a plasma 30" back at my house (I moved out a few months ago) and this picture is 10 times better!!! I love it...Too bad it's a few hundred cheaper now but no interest for 2 years and no other bills besides rent = :)

hzsogood
11-04-2006, 02:53 AM
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/pistonsfan70/DSC01445.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/pistonsfan70/DSC01455.jpg

That is a DLP TV that is here http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Mitsubishi-65-1080p-DLP-Projection-HDTV-WD-Y65/sem/rpsm/oid/156666/catOid/-12870/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do



My dad has a plasma 30" back at my house (I moved out a few months ago) and this picture is 10 times better!!! I love it...Too bad it's a few hundred cheaper now but no interest for 2 years and no other bills besides rent = :)

****

noob with an RS
11-04-2006, 02:59 AM
dont know if you got ur TV yet but i highly recommend the panasonic plasma HDTVs.. i read rave reviews about them. they are BEAUTIFUL quality especially for the price and beat out just about the others in its price range. we got the 50" for 3499.. a little higher than ur budget but i highly recommend it..

edit: actually it's on sale right now over at amazon.. this is the exact model we have in our living room..

http://www.amazon.com/PANASONIC-TH-50PX600U-50-Plasma-HDTV/dp/B000GASM4K

its not 55+ inches but man is it CLEAR.. especially HD channels of course :D

hzsogood
11-04-2006, 03:02 AM
dont know if you got ur TV yet but i highly recommend the panasonic plasma HDTVs.. i read rave reviews about them. they are BEAUTIFUL quality especially for the price and beat out just about the others in its price range. we got the 50" for 3499.. a little higher than ur budget but i highly recommend it..

edit: actually it's on sale right now over at amazon.. this is the exact model we have in our living room..

http://www.amazon.com/PANASONIC-TH-50PX600U-50-Plasma-HDTV/dp/B000GASM4K

its not 55+ inches but man is it CLEAR.. especially HD channels of course :D

plasma is nice but does not have 1080P res nor the lifespan of a dlp or RP LCD

noob with an RS
11-04-2006, 03:35 AM
their life spans arent bad at all. theyll last double digit years. and replacing the plasma with new gas or whatever makes it work, isnt as expensive as ppl make it seem..

SAG3
11-04-2006, 03:43 AM
I got a new TV today FTW.

supa_c
11-04-2006, 03:49 AM
Plasma has mad burn in
I played GTA on my friends pioneer for like an hour and i could totally see the health burned into the screen.

springy101
11-04-2006, 03:57 AM
dont know if you got ur TV yet but i highly recommend the panasonic plasma HDTVs.. i read rave reviews about them. they are BEAUTIFUL quality especially for the price and beat out just about the others in its price range. we got the 50" for 3499.. a little higher than ur budget but i highly recommend it..

edit: actually it's on sale right now over at amazon.. this is the exact model we have in our living room..

http://www.amazon.com/PANASONIC-TH-50PX600U-50-Plasma-HDTV/dp/B000GASM4K

its not 55+ inches but man is it CLEAR.. especially HD channels of course :D

i have a panasonic 42" widescreen and play games on it and watch espn for hours at a time and no burn in at all, its a great tv and i think the 42" is down to 1999 now

noob with an RS
11-04-2006, 04:05 AM
Plasma has mad burn in
I played GTA on my friends pioneer for like an hour and i could totally see the health burned into the screen.

either the pioneer ***** as a plasma or ur friends got the settings all twacked out. iknow the panasonic i have got rave reviews and the contrast and color is beautiful so i can see why it got rave reviews.

1loudsuv
11-04-2006, 04:37 AM
heres some crappy pix of mine just of the hd cable and burnout 360 game
older pix about 2 months old only had a blue ray player wich i returned and now got the hd-dvd player

xbr1 60" tv

i need to get some screenshots of chronicles of riddick or mission impossilbe 3 or and charlie and the chocalate factory

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/DSC00442.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/DSC00445.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/DSC00444.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/DSC00450.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/subingncali/DSC00461.jpg

springy101
11-04-2006, 05:00 AM
dam thats ****

supa_c
11-04-2006, 06:25 AM
either the pioneer ***** as a plasma or ur friends got the settings all twacked out. iknow the panasonic i have got rave reviews and the contrast and color is beautiful so i can see why it got rave reviews.
It was the business display one....

bumpin_blazer
11-04-2006, 11:50 AM
so hzgood what tv did you buy or still thinking it through? and bumping blazer post some pix :D dont forget a good audio setup makes movie watching better also.

i got 5.1 but since my hd-dvd a1 player has analog outputs and decodes dolby digital plus and truhd i get that and boy does it sound better then regular dts. at first i never noticed till my player recently broke on monday and ive been watching dvds. thank god for best buy hooking it up today and getting my player back

i have a 6.1 reciever and 6.1 speaker jbl studio series speakers so they are good enough for your average 22yr old i suppose. i got em' back when i was 18 though after graduation. i love the TV but i have to say I am ordering a ps2 monster cable componet video cable today lol.

noob with an RS
11-04-2006, 01:54 PM
It was the business display one....
ive seen many business display ones that werent tweaked to their optimum potential.. and just because they work at best buy or CC doesnt meant they know how to set up their TVs correctly :rolleyes: and pioneer isnt a plasma-tv dominating brand...

1loudsuv
11-04-2006, 01:59 PM
ive seen many business display ones that werent tweaked to their optimum potential.. and just because they work at best buy or CC doesnt meant they know how to set up their TVs correctly :rolleyes: and pioneer isnt a plasma-tv dominating brand...

its espeacially true about them working at BB and not knowing wtf their doing lol

bumpin_blazer
11-04-2006, 03:24 PM
i'd beg to differ that there are a few BB employee's who know or knew when they worked there;)

1loudsuv
11-04-2006, 06:02 PM
i have a 6.1 reciever and 6.1 speaker jbl studio series speakers so they are good enough for your average 22yr old i suppose.

man i renember being 22 like yesterday dam in getting old fast :crap:
im 25 going 26 in a couple of months :crap:

ps lets see some pix of your new tv :yumyum:

supa_c
11-04-2006, 07:44 PM
ive seen many business display ones that werent tweaked to their optimum potential.. and just because they work at best buy or CC doesnt meant they know how to set up their TVs correctly :rolleyes: and pioneer isnt a plasma-tv dominating brand...
It was from The Good Guys...
Also, setting up a t.v has nothing to do with burn in....

1loudsuv
11-04-2006, 07:56 PM
It was from The Good Guys...
Also, setting up a t.v has nothing to do with burn in....

setting up brightness and contrast do.

bumpin_blazer
11-05-2006, 02:09 PM
man i renember being 22 like yesterday dam in getting old fast :crap:
im 25 going 26 in a couple of months :crap:

ps lets see some pix of your new tv :yumyum:

i'm gettting my componet video cables for teh ps2 soon as that's my best picture output at this point and will get you pics soon. the HD DVR is coming soon i hope i've gotta get 12 shows out of my box, then clear out the new one's from this week lol.

supa_c
11-05-2006, 02:28 PM
I couldve sold you some component ps2 cables, my bro fried his trying to mod it.

99gtxgolfer
11-05-2006, 02:31 PM
i just bouht a brand new 42in HItachi plasma, and it is rediculous, best you can get right now. just make sure you get really good cables(monster 600 or 800) is you go that rought. try to stick with HDMI TO HDMI or DVI to HDMI cables.

supa_c
11-05-2006, 02:40 PM
Monster cable.....never
AAMC 4 life !

bumpin_blazer
11-05-2006, 08:20 PM
i just bouht a brand new 42in HItachi plasma, and it is rediculous, best you can get right now. just make sure you get really good cables(monster 600 or 800) is you go that rought. try to stick with HDMI TO HDMI or DVI to HDMI cables.

hitachi plasma best you can get? i suppose it's a matter of opinion but i can think of 6 i'd take before it, for the price though they're good.

bumpin_blazer
11-05-2006, 08:21 PM
I couldve sold you some component ps2 cables, my bro fried his trying to mod it.

got these for free from a friend who sold his ps2 a while back:D. 60 dollar monster cable for free= FTMFW :D

Pistonsfan70
11-08-2006, 02:48 AM
Here's a question about ps2's and DLP tv's such as mine..

I have normal cables and when I play it on my nice tv (I usually keep it up stairs on my 27") there is a small delay. The controller is not responsive AT ALL!!! I assumed because the PS2 is not made for hd tvs (my roommate hooks his Xbox on it and it works fine, the back of Xbox games say 720i compatible or something though)...


ANy thoughts?

SAG3
11-08-2006, 02:54 AM
Broken.

Pistonsfan70
11-08-2006, 03:00 AM
I really hope you're not bein serious cuz that doesn't even make sense.


this is the TV

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7823206&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050031&id=1142295054692

ps2 works fine on different tv's..

Xbox works on that TV...

heyman421
11-08-2006, 12:08 PM
the upconverter probably has a delay, then

WTF do you want to know?

try using an external one that doesn't **** ***

Pistonsfan70
11-08-2006, 01:50 PM
Why does the Xbox work fine on it? I thought it might have something to do with the PS2 cables, but apparently I was wrong.

A/D/S-MbQuart
11-16-2006, 04:57 AM
If you can afford plasma the PQ is the best. Dlp has rainbow effect and can make you feel dizzy and fatiging watching them. Dlp or any rear projection can not hang with plasma.

1loudsuv
11-16-2006, 02:37 PM
If you can afford plasma the PQ is the best. Dlp has rainbow effect and can make you feel dizzy and fatiging watching them. Dlp or any rear projection can not hang with plasma.

are you the type who thinks front projector ***** to. actually the only advatange plasma has is viewing angle thats it.

TXST8tj
11-16-2006, 04:12 PM
yeah, plasma would be the last on my list.

ngsm13
11-16-2006, 04:43 PM
Sony SXRD...

But last night I watched the Pioneer Elite Plasma... might edge it out.

It's the best picture quality I've seen out of new HDTV's... and wow the 1080P Pioneer Elite Plasma... was AMAZING.

nG

1loudsuv
11-16-2006, 10:39 PM
Sony SXRD...

But last night I watched the Pioneer Elite Plasma... might edge it out.

It's the best picture quality I've seen out of new HDTV's... and wow the 1080P Pioneer Elite Plasma... was AMAZING.

nG

that pioneer is sick and is probably the only plasma i would buy but dam 8 grand for a 50" i rather buy the sony pearl and have beter pq and 2 times the screen size for about the same price :D

ngsm13
11-17-2006, 01:16 AM
Well the 50" Pioneer Elite 1080i had an AMAZING picture as well ;)

nG

A/D/S-MbQuart
11-18-2006, 12:26 PM
are you the type who thinks front projector ***** to. actually the only advatange plasma has is viewing angle thats it.

What does front projection have to do with plasma vs dlp? But since you bring it up you will still get a brighter less washed out image on your sxrd vs front projection like pearl. In a nice dedicated light controlled room front would be nice..

As far as viewing angle thats not only plasma advantage, plasma has no SSE aka silk screen effect, pantyhose like sheen on the screen. Colors are also more realistic and can display more colors. Black levels are also better imo compared to sxrd or dlp and being direc-view plasma still has more "pop" to the picture, like good ole direc-view tube tv. Plasma comes the closest the the tube as far as pq is concerned. :up2somet: