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dalucifer
10-26-2006, 10:52 AM
I am looking to get a processor for my car. I already have a 9855 in my car and im kinda torn on what to do, so I would like to get everyone opinions. I am looking at:
Audiocontrol DQS (keep the 9855)
Pioneer P9 combo (loose the 9855 obviously)
Alpine PXA-h700 (get the controller and the processor)


Thanks for everyones opinions :veryhapp:

alphakenny1
10-26-2006, 12:24 PM
are you gonna get the complete h700 set right if you go that route? meaning both the processor and controller. out the 3, the h700 might be the cheapeast and best overall choice. but the h700/h701 is known for inducing some floor noise but its kinda a hit and miss with it. some have it, some don't. market value for a full complete h700 is around 350-400 so i think thats the best option right now.

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 12:29 PM
are you gonna get the complete h700 set right if you go that route? meaning both the processor and controller. out the 3, the h700 might be the cheapeast and best overall choice. but the h700/h701 is known for inducing some floor noise but its kinda a hit and miss with it. some have it, some don't. market value for a full complete h700 is around 350-400 so i think thats the best option right now.

Yes i would get the set. The audio control DQS is 370 shipped to me(wouldnt need to get nething else, also not really looking price wise right now. Just concerned with performance). I am already running active with my 9855...thanks for the input :)

iceteebone
10-26-2006, 12:34 PM
why not sell the 9855 and get a 9860 with the H701 then you wouldn't need to add the controller?

alphakenny1
10-26-2006, 12:34 PM
ic, if you aren't concerned with price may i suggest either getting that h700 combo along with the alpine 7996 which has optical out so then you can run your music digitially ;). or get the p9 combo and run your music digitially as well.

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 12:37 PM
ic, if you aren't concerned with price may i suggest either getting that h700 combo along with the alpine 7996 which has optical out so then you can run your music digitially ;). or get the p9 combo and run your music digitially as well.

I am strongly considering it, but i am an die hard alpine lover (except the new stuff which is crap)

Johnny Drama
10-26-2006, 12:38 PM
Doesnt the 9855 have a digital/optical out? If not Squeak point out a way to make it so. Let me see if I can dig it up.

Johnny Drama
10-26-2006, 12:41 PM
I'm not really sure why you would want to run the H701 through the auxillary input on the 8053. That would completely defeat the purpose of the H701, since you wouldn't be able to use any of the xover or time alignment functions.

The 8053 does, however, have digital coaxial output. Since the H701 doesn't accept coaxial in but does accept toslink (optical) input, partsexpress has a coaxial to toslink convertor for around $25, and a gentleman called Kev7909 on ECA can mod it to 12V DC for you for like $20 (I had him do this for me). That would work out really well, since most of the problems associated with the H701 (noise floor, etc) are all related to the analog inputs....plus you would have the advantage of running digital the entire length of the vehicle (no induced noise).

But yeah....Eclipse 8053 + Digi Out + C701 + H701 = Great combination

Here is some of the post I was talking about.

http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=6703&st=0

Johnny Drama
10-26-2006, 12:43 PM
I chose the P9 however. I like both the P9 and H700/701 combos. I chose what was cheaper for me and what I though was the better deal.

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 12:45 PM
I chose the P9 however. I like both the P9 and H700/701 combos. I chose what was cheaper for me and what I though was the better deal.

dont you have the euro version? How do you like it? Either way the two will cost about the same for me so im not to concerned with that.

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 12:47 PM
I am also learning towards to p9 to run a 4 way active.

Johnny Drama
10-26-2006, 12:52 PM
dont you have the euro version? How do you like it? Either way the two will cost about the same for me so im not to concerned with that.

No I have the US version. I love it.


I am also learning towards to p9 to run a 4 way active.

H701 can run 4 way active. You use the rear and bandpass them as the mid-bass settings. Works perfectly.

+for 701...5.1 if you are into moble video
P9 doesnt have that ;)

Other then that the crossoevers on the 701 are a tad more versitile, but nothing way better.

701 has parametric and graphic EQing
P9 has dual 30 graphic

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 01:00 PM
I think the p9 is the way to go since i wont need the controller. I would like to find the euro version tho :)

Johnny Drama
10-26-2006, 01:07 PM
I think the p9 is the way to go since i wont need the controller. I would like to find the euro version tho :)


Your radio stations wont work correctly without an adapter, then you want get all the stations. You will be limited to a small band range.

ramos
10-26-2006, 01:17 PM
What is a p-90 ? I keep hearing mention of it as if it's an updated p9 or something :)

alphakenny1
10-26-2006, 01:22 PM
i believe the 8053 doesn't have digi out but i know you can do something to actually do it. and no the 9855 doesn't have digi out as well. if you are a die hard alpine fan, go get the w200 or 310 to fully control the h701. or as stated earlier get the 9860 or 9861 to control the h701/h700.

pwuthedon
10-26-2006, 01:27 PM
sell the 9855 to me

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 02:09 PM
any thoughts on the Audiocontrol DQS?

alphakenny1
10-26-2006, 02:26 PM
are those you're only considerations you listed? don't forget the rockford 3sixty.2 and the highly popular and cheap ppi dcx-730 (was $165 shipped at ike but sold out w/ a quickness, maybe they'll get some more. it's $500 at cardomain.).

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 02:29 PM
are those you're only considerations you listed? don't forget the rockford 3sixty.2 and the highly popular and cheap ppi dcx-730 (was $165 shipped at ike but sold out w/ a quickness, maybe they'll get some more. it's $500 at cardomain.).

ike does have them again, but i am looking for something with a 31 band EQ.

pwuthedon
10-26-2006, 02:35 PM
go ural cdd

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 02:37 PM
go ural

further elaborate please... I no they are a russian company (IIRC), but i do not know much about them..

alphakenny1
10-26-2006, 02:53 PM
the ural hu is 4 way capable but it has its limitiations in crossover points. i believe if you 4 way, the ural hu will have a fixed sub xover pt of like 63hz or something. or so i've read.....

pwuthedon
10-26-2006, 02:53 PM
hold up i try to post a video, but they do have a 31 band eq and someone is selling one, i cant read the site to well, i think my russian is rusty

Johnny Drama
10-26-2006, 02:59 PM
i believe the 8053 doesn't have digi out but i know you can do something to actually do it. and no the 9855 doesn't have digi out as well. if you are a die hard alpine fan, go get the w200 or 310 to fully control the h701. or as stated earlier get the 9860 or 9861 to control the h701/h700.


The 8053 does have a digi out ;)
***** that the 9855 doesnt.


hold up i try to post a video, but they do have a 31 band eq and someone is selling one, i cant read the site to well, i think my russian is rusty

Those Ural units look like poo...They probly perform nice, just look like poo.

pwuthedon
10-26-2006, 03:01 PM
well if you have real player you can watch this vid http://switchboard.real.com/player/email.html?PV=6.0.12&&title=UralCDD&link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdd.ru%2Frepository%2Fvideo% 2FUralCDD.mpg

u can buy another face if you really dont like it that much

alphakenny1
10-26-2006, 03:16 PM
The 8053 does have a digi out ;)
***** that the 9855 doesnt.


oh yea thats right but it gotta get the converter and have that guy on eca do the 12v dc for you.

also not too many hu has digital output. the alpine 7996,7696,7949, clarion drz9255, and denon dct-1 (like i can afford it) come to mind. p9, 9860,9861,w200 and 310 as well.

dalucifer
10-26-2006, 11:19 PM
Since i am already running active, would just adding a digital EQ be similar in performance?

DBfan187
10-26-2006, 11:33 PM
http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthread.php?threadid=136402

more are supposed to arrive at the end of this week. :)

iceteebone
10-27-2006, 01:52 PM
wasn't ED suppose to sell the urals and then of course everything went wrong? i'm not up to date with the car audios anymore :crap:

dalucifer
10-28-2006, 04:17 PM
still wondering thoughts on just adding an audiocontrol DQS

James Bang
10-28-2006, 04:30 PM
I myself am trying to go the processor route. I'm looking into the 9860+h701 combo, since i'm an alpine fan, too ;) . untill read this thread, i didn't know that the 9860 could control the h701. Thanks for the thread brandon ;)

dalucifer
10-28-2006, 04:34 PM
I myself am trying to go the processor route. I'm looking into the 9860+h701 combo, since i'm an alpine fan, too ;) . untill read this thread, i didn't know that the 9860 could control the h701. Thanks for the thread brandon ;)

:) ...Ive been told that its a royal pain in the *** to control it with the 9860... Since im already running active, im not to sure what benefits i would get by adding it. That is why i asked about the Audiocontrol DQS. Its 24 bit digital signal processor with a 31 band eq for each channel. I want any and all input...so keep it coming

James Bang
10-28-2006, 04:52 PM
:) ...Ive been told that its a royal pain in the *** to control it with the 9860...

dammit, that's not what i wanted to hear... :p:
well... the reason why i wanted to get the 9860 is for the dvd feature. With all your choices, i dont' think you can go wrong with any of them. just put the specs side-by-side and compare to see which will fit you better and be more convenient.

dalucifer
10-28-2006, 04:56 PM
dammit, that's not what i wanted to hear... :p:
well... the reason why i wanted to get the 9860 is for the dvd feature. With all your choices, i dont' think you can go wrong with any of them. just put the specs side-by-side and compare to see which will fit you better and be more convenient.

Well the cheapest and most convenient is the audio control DQS. I just wouldnt be able to run a digital signal to it. The PXA-h700 i hear unless u run a digital signal gets ground noise and is the second the most expensive..Then the Pioneer P9 combo has pretty much everything known to man on it and is the most expensive. So i dont no..I just feel like i cant make up my mind..:crying:

iceteebone
10-29-2006, 02:26 AM
Well the cheapest and most convenient is the audio control DQS. I just wouldnt be able to run a digital signal to it. The PXA-h700 i hear unless u run a digital signal gets ground noise and is the second the most expensive..Then the Pioneer P9 combo has pretty much everything known to man on it and is the most expensive. So i dont no..I just feel like i cant make up my mind..:crying:

i'm in the same boat. i'm thinking about getting a dqx for my system.