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Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 09:50 PM
Hoping to get done before new years, I plan on going to the tampa/clearwater meet. :cheers:

So far...I've bought a lot of tools and got set back (need mo money) because of which, moved into a new place on the beach and paying more rent/bills every month, so unforchanetly I don't have all the money yet to get my component speakers and amplifiers.

I plan on getting a set of Rainbows, the Powerline CS Series, and get an alpine pdx amp to power them, about 300 watts RMS each side.

As for the subwoofer, I'm going to get another alpine pdx amp, the pdx 1.1000, and put a little over a 1000 watts to it. The Electrical consist of the biggest yellowtop optima makes, and a 200 amp alternator from excessive amperage.

I have however added all of this stuff to my collection and project, not seen is 2 4x8 sheets of 3/4" mdf, and 2 8' 2"x4" for bracing (just got it today)...and the fiberglass is in that box behind the stuff in the pic...the alternator pictured is an 85amp, the 200 amp already installed along with RCA's, speaker wire, and the 0 gauge wires.

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Car interior after being cleaned recently:
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Door shot of old setup:
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Misc Shots:
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Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 09:50 PM
Still thinking of where to mount the sub, it's bigger than the hole there, that hole is ~16"s and the sub is an 18", thinking about going back a few inches behind the wall there, and making a baffle to cover the hole...
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8746/carpics005yd2.jpg

More Misc Shots:
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Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 09:51 PM
The Foam I used at first was a 2 part, 2lb per cubic foot pourable foam, it came out very strong, alot better than the great stuff crap, I suggest try some, I got it from uscomposits.com in florida, north of miami.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8398/carpics007pe4.jpg
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A top off of greatstuff:
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Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 09:51 PM
Shot of the engine bay with the positive alt wire, and two grounds going to the battery, and there is another ground fromt he battery to the chassis to make the big four ;) (2 grounds on the engine block/1 by the alternator)
Oh, btw the ends where crimped 0 gauge 3/8" ring terminals, and soldered.
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You can see the stock wiring tied into the system here:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1889/carpics015nt1.jpg

Thanks for looking, hopefully I'll get wood work, and fiberglass work done soon!

In the mean time, you can check out my car domain (all old though):
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/804181

Calikid
10-21-2006, 09:53 PM
how much was the total cost for everything on the first pic?? :yumyum:

Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 09:54 PM
how does the speakers being where they are in the door juve with imaging?

It isn't centered...didn't stage it right at the time, but I plan on filling the hole with FG, or something, and paint it...and FG the new comps, and deaden the doors when I get the rest of my speakers.

Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 09:55 PM
how much was the total cost for everything on the first pic?? :yumyum:

over 1K, maybe 1.5K, not sure exactly. edit: up to 2K....

Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 10:01 PM
that wiring under the hood is very clean! good job!

Thanks, I crimped the ring terminals, grabbed a turbo torch, and some plumber's solder/flux and soldered the ring terminals... can't see it though because of the tape. It isn't going anywhere...I also have a new inline fuse for the wire going to the trunk, it isn't hooked up, and that's why the positive terminal has an open spot.

Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 10:02 PM
.. and how'd you tie the stock battery cables into the 1/0? I want to get some battery terminals and do the same, but I'm not sure how to.

What I did was, I used a razor to cut the insulation off the o gauge without cutting the wire, took a 0 gauge crimp ring terminal, bolted to the stock harness, and then crimped it around the wire...to make sure it won't come off, I used a metal clamp for hoses, ect, and cranked it over the crimped ring terminal, then taped over with some electrical tape.

Hurro
10-21-2006, 11:07 PM
that wiring under the hood is very clean! good job!

That's a **** fine job under the hood. Nice right angles and everything. Sho-iz-purdy!

Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 11:25 PM
Thanks for the complements, very much appreciated.

azbass
10-21-2006, 11:32 PM
ah some one that actually knows how to use zip ties in teh engin bay!,. i would have loomed them too. but looks good.

Rawr-DQ
10-21-2006, 11:48 PM
Zip ties ftmfw ;)

Rawr-DQ
10-22-2006, 05:25 PM
Getting there...

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Rawr-DQ
10-22-2006, 08:39 PM
Meh, 1 gallon of resin, and 1/2 a bottle of mekp later...

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MTXman
10-22-2006, 08:44 PM
Looks great man, gettin' there.

Keep us updated with pics on every step until the finished product, I would like to see this baby grow into a full grown adult.

Make a father proud!

If you don't mind.

Hurro
10-22-2006, 10:44 PM
When you're attempting an install of this magnitude, do you have another car as your daily driver? Or do you use this one? Is this only on weekends? How are you approaching this?

Rawr-DQ
10-22-2006, 11:27 PM
Weekends are ususally when I have enough time to work, but I also drive a work truck, it's the companies, but I take it home.

ssj2xxgotenxx
10-23-2006, 01:18 AM
I'm very impressed with your attention to detail. Keep up the good work!

coolahan
10-23-2006, 05:32 AM
looking good

Hurro
10-23-2006, 07:41 PM
Weekends are ususally when I have enough time to work, but I also drive a work truck, it's the companies, but I take it home.

Dang, I wish I had a work truck and a driveway :D

acold7dusta
10-23-2006, 07:59 PM
:clap: :bowdown:

Rawr-DQ
10-23-2006, 08:40 PM
3/4 Of a gallon of resin later...did a layer, but not the sides yet..got too dark, and a lil colder...

Most of that isn't air bubbles, there isn't many, but ripples in the first layer of fleece, and buldges of foam...doesn't need to be neat, isn't going to be seen, just needs to be strong.

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Hurro
10-24-2006, 09:46 AM
Gogo fiberglass!

SQBubble
10-24-2006, 09:49 AM
Shot of the engine bay with the positive alt wire, and two grounds going to the battery, and there is another ground fromt he battery to the chassis to make the big four ;) (2 grounds on the engine block/1 by the alternator)
Oh, btw the ends where crimped 0 gauge 3/8" ring terminals, and soldered.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1451/carpics009qy5.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6660/carpics010vp8.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3269/carpics011nr2.jpg
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http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/482/carpics013xd6.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7997/carpics014tn7.jpg
You can see the stock wiring tied into the system here:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1889/carpics015nt1.jpg

Thanks for looking, hopefully I'll get wood work, and fiberglass work done soon!

In the mean time, you can check out my car domain (all old though):
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/804181

insane cleanness
how many foot did it took you for all the engine wire

Immacomputer
10-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Nicely done so far. Where in Florida are you? I assume north Florida since you said it got cold.. ahah

skeptikal
10-24-2006, 05:14 PM
subscribed..

Chevyaudio
10-24-2006, 05:22 PM
Nice job man.

brandontw
10-24-2006, 05:33 PM
lookin nice... keep it goin!

Rawr-DQ
10-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Nicely done so far. Where in Florida are you? I assume north Florida since you said it got cold.. ahah

Meh, south florida...southwest.

Got down to 50, eh? Eh?!

With the humidty it still was kinda chilly...that and the wind was going.



No glass tonight, but I got two more gallons of resin today.

Rawr-DQ
10-24-2006, 06:10 PM
insane cleanness
how many foot did it took you for all the engine wire

Hmmm...probably 10-12 feet.

Immacomputer
10-24-2006, 06:15 PM
Meh, south florida...southwest.

Got down to 50, eh? Eh?!

With the humidty it still was kinda chilly...that and the wind was going.



No glass tonight, but I got two more gallons of resin today.

It was chilly in Orlando this morning. It will probably be cold* tonight.

*Florida cold which is roughly 50 degrees...

Rawr-DQ
10-25-2006, 09:14 PM
Alright, did more glassin tonight, untill it got too dark to see with the little bit of daylight left.

Tried out pouring my resin ahead of time, and using smaller cups.
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Mmm, a big ole roll of glass
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Tried it out, didn't work too well because the glass is kinda thick, 13.5 oz per yard, and it'd pull the wet glass off a little...eventually just ripped the excess apart and applied in smaller chunks.
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Could not see anymore, called it a night...I finished the layer and put glass on the sides, and did a second layer in some areas.
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Rawr-DQ
10-25-2006, 09:14 PM
Cups/ect tossed about
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Ah my hand is covered in the power from all those pairs of gloves!
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I spilled an 8 oz cup of resin in the middle there, and went ahead and layered some glass on it, no need to waste resin!
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supa_c
10-25-2006, 09:19 PM
That tape will be there forever

Rawr-DQ
10-25-2006, 09:22 PM
That tape will be there forever


..meh, so?

supa_c
10-25-2006, 09:23 PM
Tape is quiet
How much were all the brushes ?

saywhat?
10-25-2006, 09:24 PM
question........if this is going to actually be a structural part of your enclosure.....why didnt you use wood for the most part?

Rawr-DQ
10-25-2006, 09:27 PM
Tape is quiet
How much were all the brushes ?

Not very expensive at all. hmmm like...5 bucks at max?


question........if this is going to actually be a structural part of your enclosure.....why didnt you use wood for the most part?

uhh wood? It's there to seal the box/semi structure but it's lined up against metal so it's not like it'll flex easily...There will be bracing throughout the *****, I got two 2x4's and 2 sheets of mdf waiting for when I get ready to do the baffle in the front and the false floor. :eyebrow:

saywhat?
10-25-2006, 09:29 PM
a wooden floor would have A) been far stronger than the glass and B) FAR FAR FAR cheaper. all your doing it seems is making a bottom of your box in essence.


just trying to help.

Rawr-DQ
10-25-2006, 09:32 PM
a wooden floor would have A) been far stronger than the glass and B) FAR FAR FAR cheaper. all your doing it seems is making a bottom of your box in essence.


just trying to help.

I was glassing the wheel well, a wooden floor would have been complicated with the shape on the trunk, it was really, just easier to glass it. Besides, I really don't need the added weight of the wooden floor versus FG.

saywhat?
10-25-2006, 09:39 PM
i guess. thats just a ton of fiberglass and money. but you seem to have it all figured out.

Rawr-DQ
10-25-2006, 09:43 PM
orginally, I was going to stretch the fleece over a circle baffle, and FG the outside, and bought the needed Fg to do that, but changed my mind after I got the stuff, and jsut going to do a false floor. FG supplies, and some tools was about 350, but it'll be enough to do a lot more projects that I was going to do in the future...I still have doors I wanna glass, and possibly the back dash, and the front, middle dash.

So I bought plenty of crap..Most of the cost was on tools I needed to just do boxes...but I can always use some tools so it's alright.

Curel
10-26-2006, 08:18 PM
Now that's a big project. Looking good so far.

johnecon2001
10-26-2006, 11:12 PM
Only thing I would have changed is your use of GreatStuff.
I hate that stuff, there are much better products that could have been used instead.

BassAce
10-26-2006, 11:45 PM
Since your fiberglassing your whole trunk, you should try to fiberglass the trunk lid. This may help minimize the amount of sound that exits the vehicle.

Rawr-DQ
10-27-2006, 12:22 AM
Only thing I would have changed is your use of GreatStuff.
I hate that stuff, there are much better products that could have been used instead.

I used a 2 part foam before I touched greatstuff, however I didn't order the second/larger package, and needed some more. I used some spray foam only after I used up my 2 part foam.

Yes, the two part foam was stronger/firmer... the greatstuff foam is alright, and will still help deaden the vibrations.

So what products are you suggesting besides the 2 part foam, some "other" canned spray foam?...


Since your fiberglassing your whole trunk, you should try to fiberglass the trunk lid. This may help minimize the amount of sound that exits the vehicle.
I never tought about it, but I don't think I'll even bother trying seeing how much of a pain it'd be to do that.





I've been also thinking about doing a bandpass enclosure, inwhich would solve a lot of problems, but make the build a little harder...hmm.

helotaxi
10-27-2006, 12:55 AM
Just curious as to why you used fleece as the base layer over the metal of the car? You went to the trouble of laying down foil and taping everything, why not just lay a few layers of mat right on that. No wrinkles and gets stronger with less resin and less hassle. Too late now but something to think about if you go after a project like this again. Fleece is best use stretched over a framework to make smooth curves not laid against and existing surface.

Rawr-DQ
10-27-2006, 10:48 PM
Just curious as to why you used fleece as the base layer over the metal of the car? You went to the trouble of laying down foil and taping everything, why not just lay a few layers of mat right on that. No wrinkles and gets stronger with less resin and less hassle. Too late now but something to think about if you go after a project like this again. Fleece is best use stretched over a framework to make smooth curves not laid against and existing surface.

I realized that, but I thought I'd try something new seeing that it's be pretty hard to glass vertically, just try something different, the only thing is, the fleece was kinda thick and not very stretchy, However fiberglass is stronger curved than flat.

I layed down the foil incase I ever needed to removed the glass, just so that it wouldn't be impossible...It's not too bad, but I'm sure if I had to do it again, it's try something different.

baseballer1100
10-27-2006, 11:42 PM
**** thats nice. Cant wait to see the finished product.

Rawr-DQ
12-06-2006, 09:16 PM
Sorry for the late post but camera was hijacked for two weeks...Some of these pics include a camaro build, which belongs to my roommate

Update Time:

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Rawr-DQ
12-06-2006, 09:16 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-06-2006, 09:16 PM
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mikey060
12-06-2006, 09:45 PM
i <3 Camaros.


build is coming along nicely

9512ds
12-06-2006, 10:07 PM
kid rock?

mikey060
12-06-2006, 10:24 PM
looks just like him from the back:laugh:

Rawr-DQ
12-07-2006, 12:38 AM
Yeah, that isn't me though, it's my roommate. I was behind the camera.

Rawr-DQ
12-09-2006, 02:03 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-09-2006, 03:43 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-09-2006, 07:43 PM
Wasn't paying attention and forgot to calc the thickness of the wood on the top and bottom...had to cut out 1.5" of the port.

Glued and clamped with 4200 lbs of force.

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kicker06
12-10-2006, 06:17 PM
Peel & Seel?

Rawr-DQ
12-10-2006, 07:04 PM
Fatmat

Rawr-DQ
12-10-2006, 07:22 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-10-2006, 07:22 PM
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PowerNaudio
12-10-2006, 09:10 PM
im so trying to figure this enclosure out.
do you have a drawing of how the enclosure is suppose to look ones finished?

mikey060
12-10-2006, 09:21 PM
i agreee. im assuming that thing is the port

Rawr-DQ
12-10-2006, 09:24 PM
not really, just an idea...you can kinda see how it's going to go atm, but I'm piecing it together. The volume isn't exact, but I may add extra support if I need to lower it, and I can adjust the port size if need be.

But so far, it's tuned to about 25hz, about 9 cubes, I'll be tossing in more stuff to displace some of the extra space I have since I reduced the port size, I'll mount the amps near the port, and put the battery inside of the box.


And yes that is the port, about 35"s long.

PowerNaudio
12-10-2006, 09:26 PM
so the part right there that you just made out of wood is the port?

Rawr-DQ
12-10-2006, 09:28 PM
so the part right there that you just made out of wood is the port?

Yup, that's the port, I'm gonna have to glass in the amp rack, I have some Ideas I wanna try for the front, but the hole there will remain as the sub will be firing upwards in the trunk.

60ndown
12-10-2006, 09:35 PM
crazy,

so much energy and time and effort to do that?

i cant see where the sub goes either?

Rawr-DQ
12-10-2006, 10:12 PM
alright, well you see the panel on the left sitting on the 2x4's? That's going all the way across, with about 2-3 layers of mdf. It'll be a false floor, and the sub will go in the middle firing up.



http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC01700-1.jpg

baseballer1100
12-10-2006, 10:19 PM
im loving it

Rawr-DQ
12-11-2006, 09:13 PM
Sealed the front baffle to the rest of the enclosure, but then of course no more daylight.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC01710.jpg

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PowerNaudio
12-11-2006, 09:26 PM
coming allong nice.

how much clearance are you going to have from the top of the sub to the trunk door?. and from the bottom of the sub to the trunk floor?

Rawr-DQ
12-11-2006, 09:31 PM
Well, atm the door closes with just one layer of MDF, I'll probably do 2-3, so I may have to cut the wood down by the hinges. And the sub to the floor, there should be plenty of room, I'd say atleast 7 inches.

AJē06
12-11-2006, 09:39 PM
looks nice!

MikeyB
12-11-2006, 09:53 PM
Looks good but that seems like it is gonna be very hard to get the right tuning out of that thing. Maybe you could try just puttin in that front baffle that you are using as part of the port and just using aeroports in it. Then you can adjust it however you need to and I think it would make things a hell of a lot easier for you.

Just something to think about

Rawr-DQ
12-11-2006, 10:07 PM
Even if it is off, I tried some different scenarios in win isd/bbp6 and the tuning only changes a few hz.

MikeyB
12-11-2006, 10:18 PM
But how can you get an accurate measurement of the volume?

Rawr-DQ
12-11-2006, 10:18 PM
what do you mean?

MikeyB
12-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Of the enclosure, I just dont really understand how you can accurately measure how big it is to even determine tuning.

Rawr-DQ
12-11-2006, 10:37 PM
I could try filling it with packing peanuts...but instead I took several measurements, cut out simple shapes that I can mathmatically calculate the volume, and pieced it together.

After I got the max volume, I designed a port to take a certain amount of airspace away, calculated the loss of airspace from the sub and bracing and other design features, and trail and error, designed the port. If I need to change it after I finish the speaker baffle, I'll have a 18" hole to reach through and extend the port as needed.

MikeyB
12-12-2006, 01:13 AM
Oh alright, I just wanted to make sure you were gettin a pretty accurate measurment of the gross volume, I didnt want you to do all this then have it end up being way off in tuning because you didnt get the right volume. As long as you calculated it out then your fine.

Rawr-DQ
12-13-2006, 09:13 PM
Added more 13 oz glass to the corners for some extra strength...

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Rawr-DQ
12-14-2006, 11:37 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-14-2006, 11:37 PM
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mikey060
12-15-2006, 01:01 AM
interesting port design...will be neat to see how it performs

acold7dusta
12-15-2006, 01:12 AM
nice amp man, do i see that they included an alpine keychain as well?

o yea, im also diggin your backround too :naughty:

Rawr-DQ
12-15-2006, 02:17 PM
Lol naw, it's an excessive amperage keychain, which is just as good if not better. Also has a small knife and scissors. Got them the same day in the mail. Was pretty sweet.

Hintzyboy
12-15-2006, 05:51 PM
Of the enclosure, I just dont really understand how you can accurately measure how big it is to even determine tuning.

I would just have used the manufacturer's specs for trunk volume since it takes up almost all of the trunk and subtract a bit for the clearance between the trunk lid and the top of the box.

Rawr-DQ
12-15-2006, 05:55 PM
I checked out the manufac. specs, and it just wasn't very accurate with the carpet and misc things out of the vehicle...measuring everything I was better off....I'll have more pics of the progress I'm making tonight for everyone.

Hintzyboy
12-15-2006, 05:57 PM
I suppose, but I can't imagine it would be that big of a difference

MikeyB
12-15-2006, 06:27 PM
I suppose, but I can't imagine it would be that big of a difference

Im sure it could be quite a bit off, I mean think of the change in wood thickness for the volume of a box, it doesnt "seem" like much but in reality it really is.

Hintzyboy
12-15-2006, 06:49 PM
I hear ya. I wonder if the manufacturers measure the trunk volume with or without the carpeting. I would imagine they might try to fudge the specs a little. Might try to call and find out. It's something to think about if you ever take on another project like this.

Rawr-DQ
12-15-2006, 08:21 PM
Attached the port to the front baffle permanently, cut the first part of the mdf false floor so that it was perpendicular to the port, making the last piece of the first layer much easier to cut and fit.

After that I started doing the other corner of the mdf false floor, but didn't have enough time, and it still needs to be trimmed up with the router a few more times before I get it close enough to seal against the FG sides firmly.


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Rawr-DQ
12-15-2006, 08:21 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-15-2006, 08:21 PM
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MikeyB
12-15-2006, 09:05 PM
How are you going to be sealing the top mdf panels to all of the glass?

Rawr-DQ
12-15-2006, 09:36 PM
Good question, I'm going to do each corner from underneath, a royal pain in the butt, but it is possible, then on the top, I'm going to take my gallon of duraglass, and fill in the cracks, once the sides are sealed, I'm going to take a 2x4 and put it along the back of the trunk, I will seal that with glass/duraglass then put the final panel in place, it can be sealed with glue.

I will then add 1-2 more layers of mdf on top of the and maybe a layer or two of glass, cut out the hole for the speaker and continue on with the box.

kickerlivinloud
12-16-2006, 04:03 PM
I love the designe!!! Looks hella sweet! Good luck with getting it finished



Jon

kicker06
12-16-2006, 05:22 PM
Stratus' are good to get loud, especially the way you are doing it. The cabin is not too big and not too small. More pics!

Rawr-DQ
12-16-2006, 06:34 PM
Uploading them right now...I took a look at this once I got the middle piece in place and I finally got a good look at what is to come, and actually said to myself this looks sweet. Pics in a sec.

Rawr-DQ
12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
Test Fit

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kicker06
12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
Pretty Cute.

What sub is that? Size?

You probably said it 10 times, but I'm not going to look through the thread.

Also, what deadening is that?

Rawr-DQ
12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-16-2006, 06:38 PM
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Rawr-DQ
12-16-2006, 06:45 PM
Pretty Cute.

What sub is that? Size?

You probably said it 10 times, but I'm not going to look through the thread.

Also, what deadening is that?

Ascendant Audio Avalanche, 18"
Fatmat deadending

dkmesa
12-16-2006, 06:59 PM
Looks like you can do some really nice work.

Why are your components located at the rear of the door panels? How do they sound back there?

Rawr-DQ
12-16-2006, 07:13 PM
It was an old setup, it sounded okay, got fairly loud, but the stage didn't center well. I plan on upgrading to some rainbows, and putting them in the doors. The doors are my next project, dunno what exactly I'm going to do with them though.

Oh and there is two component sets in the doors, 1 set in the stock sails and in the door, and then the other set farther back, the ones you seen.

Fandl
12-17-2006, 09:40 PM
Looks incredible, keep up the great work!

Rawr-DQ
04-29-2007, 11:34 PM
Got my Rainbows and installed them too, did a little deadending but does not seem like it was enough.

These speakers are nice, but not the loudest out there, I guess I'll have to fork up enough to get another set and another amp later on so I can have the ear bleeding power I've yearned for.

They sound good.

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Rawr-DQ
04-29-2007, 11:34 PM
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kicker06
04-30-2007, 12:39 AM
How much were those comps?

Pics of the amp PLEASE!

Rawr-DQ
04-30-2007, 01:22 AM
Those components were 975

The amp, well I had moved it since I started working on the trunk again...if you wanted to know what it looked like, here (http://www.alpine-usa.com/images/products/images/pdx-1_1000.jpg)

I'll take a pic of mine later, I gotta figure out where to put it.

Calikid
04-30-2007, 01:29 AM
975 on comps :wow:

tdawg30
04-30-2007, 09:04 PM
yeah and what the hell happened to the big *** box and the 18???????? where those be?

azbass
04-30-2007, 09:08 PM
why is the power wire ran past the battery bolt strap like that?

Rawr-DQ
04-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Huh it's still there, the trunk is the box...the 18 is not in yet because the baffle is not done.

As for the wiring, the fuse holder was too big and I didn't really have any place to put it. It's easiest to reach there, much easier to put in a new fuse if needed, and stripping/cutting 0 gauge is a *****.

kicker06
04-30-2007, 10:51 PM
How do the rainbows sound? Midbass, tweeter?

Rawr-DQ
04-30-2007, 11:09 PM
Hmm...how can I describe it...

The tweeters are not too bright or too loud, (not loud enough for me :D) They reproduce the sound crystal clear, I'm satisfied for the most part besides wanting to make my ears bleed. They seem to be more SQ orientated.

The woofers are tight, not too punchy, they feel like the drum is right there, They can shake up my doors quite a bit. They're little monsters.

The overall sound is full and vibrant, but I'd like to do more testing and tweaking...right now I have the components crossed over at 63 hertz with a 24db slope.

If you're going for SQ, these are good speakers, and they can get a little loud and still sound good, but you want insanely loud music, you'd have to get another set or go with a different speaker...I'm considering another set sometime in the future.

SQBubble
04-30-2007, 11:45 PM
hey man looks good! keep us updated:)

BassAce
05-01-2007, 12:12 AM
I have never seen a build like this before, this is very interesting. Very good job. :popcorn:

Kai Winters
05-01-2007, 10:33 AM
Wow a lot of work.
Very nice !

CJW
05-01-2007, 02:24 PM
Nice work. I need to start my glass project since it's getting warm.

Keep up the good job

Tonyguy
05-01-2007, 02:46 PM
Great job man. Can't wait to see the finished results.:popcorn:

Rawr-DQ
05-02-2007, 10:01 PM
Before threre was a gap, inwhich was going to be very hard to seal against the baffle because of the 2x4 in the way, so I found a scrap piece of 2x4 forced it in place, and mixed up some duraglass and fiberglass for some added strength. That should help me get the baffle on and make it much much easier to seal up the box.

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Rawr-DQ
05-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Comments go huzzah: \/

SQBubble
05-03-2007, 12:54 AM
hey man so what was the specs of the enclosure again? and how much power do you have? and when do you think itll be done?

Rawr-DQ
05-03-2007, 12:59 AM
Bah I think it was like uhh....~10 cubes tuned to 27 hertz, the sub has an rms of 850 or something along those lines and I have a 1k watt amp.

As for the time to finish, hopefully within the next two weeks I maybe able to put the sub in and test it out.

SQBubble
05-03-2007, 02:17 PM
Bah I think it was like uhh....~10 cubes tuned to 27 hertz, the sub has an rms of 850 or something along those lines and I have a 1k watt amp.

As for the time to finish, hopefully within the next two weeks I maybe able to put the sub in and test it out.

holy crap, this gonna be a low-end monster huh?
after seeing all those pics, it makes me wanna put my 18havoc in a fiberglass trunk with port on rear deck! i have to ask, how much did you pay for all resin/fiberglass and everything to cover the whole trunk? (if you dont mind, that is..)

Rawr-DQ
05-03-2007, 06:42 PM
Good question, I think with resin/duraglass/all sorts of stuff, came up to around 300-400

SQBubble
05-04-2007, 12:30 AM
Good question, I think with resin/duraglass/all sorts of stuff, came up to around 300-400

sweett, not that expensive for somethin' really worth it!! can't wait to see the final result of this:yumyum:

Rawr-DQ
05-04-2007, 08:28 PM
Well I went ahead a bought a few more gallons of resin, should get it monday since I didn't get it today, mainly because I'm going to glass the shat out of the baffle...that shouldn't be hard because I can cut my glass to fit precisely and it is going to be nice and flat...I'll do as many layers as I can, up untill It gets too close the the trunk lid arms. Should be strong as heck~

I hope the baffle doesn't flex, I can add up to 1/2"-3/4" thick of glass, which I may end up doing so...this baby is going to be solid.

helotaxi
05-04-2007, 08:32 PM
You'd be better off using 1" stringers along the back side of the baffle glued in place and then laying a layer or two of glass over them. That will do more for the stiffness of the baffle than adding undue weight and expense of a lot of extra resin.

Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 03:02 AM
Yeah I could make it ribbed or something along those lines, but I don't have much room to work with, I got a ton of cloth/matt enough layers, and the supports underneath should be enough...but yeah I have around 1/2-3/4" or clearance from the trunk lid arms, and I really don't feel like messing with those/altering them.

I forgot, but yeah fg is stronger when curved vs's a flat surface, I guess I'll just have to experiment.

helotaxi
05-05-2007, 05:20 AM
Put the stringers on the inside of the box, no clearance issue.

Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 03:07 PM
Yeah you can say that, but doing it is a whole other story =p

Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 06:52 PM
Check this out:

OOO ah la~

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02002.jpg

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Uh oh, is it time for a test fit?~

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Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 07:47 PM
Where art thou comments :L(

nate2587
05-05-2007, 07:58 PM
looks like a big pain in the *** too me

Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 08:22 PM
I like the ****...

W8 a minute
05-05-2007, 08:33 PM
:thumbdwn:

Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 08:51 PM
First FG job, take it whateverway you want, but meh I was experimenting

bibby
05-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Looking good dude.

Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 09:25 PM
Thanks :)

Max_Power
05-05-2007, 09:28 PM
I like the progress. Certaintly looks as if you have dedication. Good Job!

helotaxi
05-05-2007, 09:47 PM
You need to reinforce that baffle with something strong since you saw fit to cut it into a bunch of pieces. Gonna flex and leak like a mother right now.

BassAce
05-05-2007, 10:48 PM
x2 on the reinforcement, if you have the time, try to flush mount the sub.

Rawr-DQ
05-05-2007, 11:22 PM
helotaxi, it would not have fit any other way, that and the cuts on the sides took a few tries and was very complex.

Which is why I was going to do several layers of glass I have a ton of cloth and matte...but besides that I have the port/and 2x4's in there to help support everything. The box isn't done yet.

skisloski
05-06-2007, 01:02 AM
looks pretty awesome man cant wait to see the finished product

djvi0lent
05-06-2007, 05:58 AM
Where are your amps going?

Rawr-DQ
05-06-2007, 01:16 PM
Well they are small, so there are a few places I can put them, but I haven't decieded yet. They need to go somewhere I can get to them if I need to adjust anything, and in a spot where the wires can be hidden.

I was considering behind the seat, perhaps at a slight angle, but I can stack them if I need to.

helotaxi
05-06-2007, 01:56 PM
Def. would not have cut eh baffle adjacent to the sub cutout. Serious issue with strength there. I would have made the center section with the sub cutout a single rectangular piece and then added the curved "wings" as separate pieces. I would have reinforced the joints between the sections on the inside of the box with strips of MDF about 6" wide that ran the full length of the seam sealed with silicone and secured with screws about every 6" staggered on either side of the joint. That way you could get it apart if needed but it would be airtight and strong otherwise. Another though would be to have doubled up the center section with the top piece about 3" narrower on either side than the bottom. Then add the "wings" as above. Shouldn't need any more reinforcement beyond that. Just a thought.

Rawr-DQ
05-06-2007, 02:15 PM
lol, a thought alright ;)...and you're probably right, but I'm lazy, I may put some angle iron in or some 2x4's....perhaps I'll add some rings around the cutout to beef it up a lil as well. Thanks for the input I know you mean well, so I'll go do some thinking...

SQBubble
05-06-2007, 04:11 PM
looks good, it's simple...

uhoh45
05-06-2007, 04:25 PM
more photos

Rawr-DQ
05-06-2007, 07:05 PM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02011.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02012.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02014.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02013.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02010.jpg

Rawr-DQ
05-06-2007, 10:17 PM
I decieded to go ahead and seal the other side as well...getting there.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02018.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02017.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02016.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02015.jpg

Rawr-DQ
05-07-2007, 08:14 PM
Ok now, glad I got something else done and out of the way~ Glued and screwed the middle piece in, now alls I have to do is some reinforcement and bracing then hook up and wire my battery + sub amp, after that, I can finally test out my system.

I dont have a TL though so I dunno when I might get it metered, cant wait to see how this will perform.

anyways I got amp pics in for ya, the amp on the left hand side is the 1k rms watt sub amp, the one on the right is 300x2 rms watts component amp.

Here are the pics, used a 1 dollar bill for size reference:



http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02019.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02020.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02021.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02022.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02023.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02024.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02025.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02026.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02027.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02028.jpg

Rawr-DQ
05-07-2007, 09:58 PM
you guys are killen me L:*(

Hintzyboy
05-07-2007, 10:04 PM
Holy me those amps are small!!

Rawr-DQ
05-07-2007, 10:06 PM
1600 rms watts of power :up2somet:

helotaxi
05-08-2007, 10:05 PM
I really dig those amps.

Immacomputer
05-08-2007, 10:07 PM
I'm enjoying this. Those amps are very ****.

Rawr-DQ
05-09-2007, 10:02 PM
Did a layer of cloth, mmm resin-ie...the horror~ :yumyum:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02031.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02029.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02035.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02034.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02033.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02032.jpg

Rawr-DQ
05-09-2007, 10:29 PM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02038.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02039.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02036.jpg

~Magick_Man~
05-09-2007, 10:38 PM
sexay.

~Magick_Man~

Omarvelous
05-09-2007, 10:40 PM
pooooor trunk!!!

These are the sacrafices one must take in the name of Car Audio!

kickerlivinloud
05-09-2007, 11:09 PM
Man I LOVE your amps!! Wanna trade:up2somet:



Keep the pictures coming my man!!







Jon

Rawr-DQ
05-09-2007, 11:15 PM
Thanks for the replies, I'll keep the pics coming when I get the work going, but I've got a busy schedule, I have a wedding to goto this friday/sat. and I have to make up a lot of hours of tech school after I get off work, so I'm getting little bits of stuff done whenever I can~

Thanks for the feeback, its what makes this worthwhile~

djvi0lent
05-10-2007, 03:54 AM
You got mad skills my man.. I'd admire your work.

BassAce
05-10-2007, 09:19 AM
Looks good, what kind of cloth did you use in the last few pics.

Rawr-DQ
05-10-2007, 05:03 PM
10 yards of "FG-C1050" "http://uscomposites.com/cloth.html" "10oz E Glass" 50", 6.40 / yard --- $64.00

Rawr-DQ
05-10-2007, 05:07 PM
I guess the next layer will be chopped stand mat, 13.5 ounces per yard, then I'll do another with the cloth...and so on...I may do a test with the speaker in once I get another inline fuse and the battery wired up...may do that sunday.

See if I can see any flexing with the baffle/box or leaks...then I'll fix them before I finish the box. I also get to see how it'll sound =p. I think a video is in order if I do that.

I got a nice camcorder, but I'll have to try and figure out to to get it on my computer, and edit it...if not I still have my camera that'll take short, mid/low quality vids.

SQBubble
05-10-2007, 06:37 PM
holyy ****, those amp are freakin small !!! very pretty, are you gonna carpet the hole thing or paint it?

either way, itll look clean and simple.

bdawson72
05-10-2007, 07:19 PM
nice

Rawr-DQ
05-10-2007, 10:06 PM
hmm I didnt even consider carpet, heck it'd be pretty easy if I carpeted it.


hmmm...

Rawr-DQ
05-12-2007, 07:14 PM
Well I've been crunching some numbers, and I'm considering changing my setup.

unforchantly, while testing (no vid, shame), I didnt have a subsonic filter active, and a song surprized me with a 10 or 15hz tone and the the sub hit the back plate...it appears to be loose now (the piece that the coil is wrapped around) and needs to be glued (seems like it is hitting/vibrting against the dustcap) or reconed as it likes to blow fuses on my amp, but the coils are intact, and the wires are not shorted out.

other than that it hit/peaked pretty **** hard at around 35hz before it hit that low note.


What I was thinking is two sundowns 1500 strapped, or the saz 3000d, 1-2 more d31a's, 60 feet of 0 gauge, 3 more fuse blocks, a LMS-5400, sealed 7.5 cubes.

I'd be selling the Ava, and the pdx1.100...and I'd be running around 3200 watts instead of ~850-1000 on the sub~

BassAce
05-14-2007, 01:40 AM
Man that's terrible, you couldn't even barely play with it yet.

LinxuS
05-14-2007, 01:55 AM
ouch man that really *****
after all that work too

Rawr-DQ
06-23-2007, 01:59 PM
Well, the new project underway, I should make a new thread or change the title, eh?

I ordered more batteires, 2 more d31a's, and a redtop, so 4 batteries, may need more.

Anyways this is what I am going to be doing in preperation of the stronger system:
Electrical upgrade, all wiring purchased/batteries puchased-
Beef up the baffle with more glass and two by fours-
Redoing the port, will not be sealed as described before-
Get the **** speaker, 18" LMS 5400, I went ahead and ordered it, it'll be in two weeks? Cost me $875-
Wait on the amps, getting two 3000's, will be 2 months before I have the money for both, and they wont be out for a month anyway.

I've just designed the port, I used up all the room I had for it, no way to get any larger than this: I have two mock ups, either one will work. The box will be tuned around 35hz-

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/PortDesign.jpg

Rawr-DQ
06-23-2007, 03:02 PM
I know it's a long thread, but got some comments anytime soon =p?

Rawr-DQ
06-23-2007, 06:38 PM
I had to replace a worn out motor mount, so instead of going stock, I replaced it with a urethane motor mount...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02064.jpg



Here I have the old battery removed, will be replaced with a redtop. I started to solder some crimp terminals on the wires, and sanded them in prep befoer the battery goes in.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02062.jpg

spoonraker
06-23-2007, 08:42 PM
Wait so you did all that work, got the sub in, and damaged it during testing? And instead of just buying a new sub and setting the SSF you're going to completely redesign everything?

Rawr-DQ
06-23-2007, 09:02 PM
No, not really, I redesigned the port for the new sub. The old one was kinda small and tuned wayyy low. I am gutting it and building a new port in place, to fit in the same area. This time its tuned higher and is larger. The only other change to the box is I have to open the cutout for the sub some more. That and I am beefing up the baffle/box. With the new sub, I need more power, so I sold my old amp.

I'm also trying to get rid of the ava, but looks like I'll have to recone it. They don't make the avalanche anymore, and AA has been changing over to a larger shop/ect, so I wasn't sure where to go for the repair, I'm getting it done at fi when I get the chance.

But I guess I'm doing it because I want more out of this system in the first place. If I was completely satisfied I probably would have just reconed the subwoofer. You can thank stratus01rt for putting these ideas in my head =p.

spoonraker
06-23-2007, 09:28 PM
Oh ok that's not as major a change as I thought from reading your last few posts...more of like a slight change and big equipment upgrade. Should be awesome when it's done, amazing job so far.

Rawr-DQ
06-23-2007, 09:47 PM
Thanks man =p

DejaWiz
06-23-2007, 10:06 PM
Beautiful work! Can hardly wait to see the completed project.

Mind if I ask where the angled speaker mounts came from?

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC01983.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC01980.jpg

CRAZYCORNUTS18
06-23-2007, 10:10 PM
nice!

Rawr-DQ
06-24-2007, 02:36 AM
Beautiful work! Can hardly wait to see the completed project.

Mind if I ask where the angled speaker mounts came from?

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC01983.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC01980.jpg

They came with the car, those are factory mounts.


Thankyou for the comments!!!!!

DejaWiz
06-24-2007, 10:03 AM
They came with the car, those are factory mounts.


Well shoot. :( Oh well, guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and fab some door pods for my mids someday.

Rawr-DQ
06-25-2007, 06:48 PM
Oh look, 2 of 3 d31a's, and 34 feet of 0 gauge wire.


http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02067.jpg


http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/DSC02065.jpg

BassAce
06-25-2007, 09:10 PM
$875 dollars is a lot for one speaker, but I hope you take a lot of pics so I can enjoy.

Rawr-DQ
06-25-2007, 11:04 PM
Hey, why not, I'll spend double that on amps anyway.

Rawr-DQ
06-28-2007, 07:09 PM
It deserved a bump.

CaliforniabOY5
06-28-2007, 07:33 PM
u ****, u live in FL

Rawr-DQ
06-28-2007, 07:34 PM
I live on the west coast.

Rawr-DQ
07-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Speaker Compairison: (Avalanche 18" from A.A., and the LMS 5400 from TC, 800 watt sub (put 1k to it), the other is a 2.5k watt (should handle 4-6k daily)

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Rawr-DQ
07-10-2007, 09:15 PM
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/tcvsava/DSC02096.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/tcvsava/DSC02095.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/tcvsava/DSC02094.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/Totalnewbie007/tcvsava/DSC02093.jpg

BassAce
07-10-2007, 09:18 PM
I look forward to the build up. One of the best builds I've seen.

Rawr-DQ
07-10-2007, 09:25 PM
I will be glassing the doors/sails soon, hopefully I get some more stuff this week (new battery for under the hood, terminals, ect.), then I can get some work done...now that I have a sub to work with, I can get some more stuff done.

Last week I got my rainbow back from the warrenty house, thanks 6speed for the help getting it fixed.

SQBubble
07-11-2007, 12:05 AM
wow man, thats a sweet new sub, only great reviews on this thing.

plz make a new thread though, loll, and good luck, lookin forward to see the new build.

60ndown
07-13-2007, 01:42 PM
so the port fires directly into the cabin behind rear seats, and the cone output fires thru the rear shelf?

i hope it works?

Rawr-DQ
07-13-2007, 01:49 PM
Port fires forward, sub up, I usually leave the seats down, and the rear speakers have been gone.

Trunk car, what can ya do? Should work fine.
I may run a sealed box anyway

60ndown
07-13-2007, 05:02 PM
.

Should work fine.


should? ....thats a lot of work to be doing only to tear it out 'if' it doesnt work. :suicide:

nice ported / sealed box woulda been 3 hours work and guarenteed good results.

but props for your madness.....

ive been there and done that,

when i was your age and had energy like that to burn ;)

req
07-13-2007, 05:14 PM
just fyi, i tried doing a port like that onece, making a crazy labrynth thing to make the tuning lower, and it makes the port efficency terrible. if you have lots of volume to move, each bend in the port like that you are going to loose a good amount of spl.

its like water rushing through it. once it hits the bend wall thing, its going to have to run around the little wall and it looses its momentum - aka pressure aka spl.

i would advise against a port like that. just my 2 cents.

NYR36
07-13-2007, 05:33 PM
All this work in the name of good sound.
My hats off to ya. I could never do all that work.

Rawr-DQ
07-13-2007, 06:25 PM
just fyi, i tried doing a port like that onece, making a crazy labrynth thing to make the tuning lower, and it makes the port efficency terrible. if you have lots of volume to move, each bend in the port like that you are going to loose a good amount of spl.

its like water rushing through it. once it hits the bend wall thing, its going to have to run around the little wall and it looses its momentum - aka pressure aka spl.

i would advise against a port like that. just my 2 cents.

Well after looking at everything, I dont think I have it in me to try to build that port and fit it in the box. I'll try my current port, if it isn't good, I'll seal the box.