View Full Version : Narrowed it down, now help with the rest

10-08-2006, 11:10 AM
Basically I'm trying to decide which components to get for my car...I've seen so many on here that its crazy. I'm kind of trying to decide between Focal, Alpine, Memphis, Diamond. Yesterday I just heard the Focal 165KF with the Alpine PDX-4.150 on a showroom board, and I liked the sound a lot. What are your guys' opinions??

Diamond D661s $229.99 (woofersetc)

Alpine Type SPX-177R $239.99 (woofersetc)

Memphis MSQ6 $289.99 (woofersetc)

Focal 165KF $379.99 or Possibly 165KP $479.99 (little pricey though) It looks like it shows that the KFs and KPs have the same power handling and same speaker charecteristics. The difference is that the KPs come with the same tweeter as the K2Ps (TN52) where as the KFs have the TN47 tweeter and that the KPs have a sandwich cone woofer. Is that worth the extra $100 ??

Either gonna run the Alpine MRV-F345 , MRV-F545 , or PDX-4.150

10-08-2006, 04:33 PM
20 views and 0 replies...gotta love it!

10-08-2006, 04:55 PM
go DIY

10-08-2006, 05:03 PM
Thats not one of the choices. I do not know enough about car audio to DIY. Thats why I've narrowed it down to these choices. I would like to hear peoples opinions and why they have that opinions. Thanks

10-08-2006, 08:49 PM
c'mon guys..somebody must have listened to some of these

10-08-2006, 10:03 PM
I love the Focals. I have the 165V2's, so I couldn't say whether the upper ones are worth the extra.

10-08-2006, 10:07 PM
the alpine type r's tweeters are way too bright for me (almost ear piecing at high volumes), i hear the type x is better, but never heard them.

10-08-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm almost sure that I'm set on the Focals. When I listened to them on a sound board in a big room, they sounded great to me. It was the 165KFs with the Alpine PDX-4.150. I would imagine them in a car would be even better. Just for shits I also listened to the Alpine Type S, JL Audio ZR, and high end polk audios all on the same PDX amp. I definately like the Focals the best. I have listened to the memphis audio MSQ6's and liked them, but its hard to compare b/c it was on a PR series memphis amp that was only 50x4. Kinda hard to compare speakers when one has 100watts more then the other. So I guess its between....

Focal 165KF

OR Again, still debating on 125 x4 or 150 x 4

Memphis MSQ6

10-08-2006, 11:10 PM
Disregard what you heard in the board that will never give you an accurate feel of what the speaks will do in a car. Of the choices that you put up I would say the Focal KP's but for about 450 you could do the Rainbow Germainiums which rock very natural tweet not harsh like the Focal. Yes I have ran both in my car. I have since changed my Germainiums but If I did not go up on the line I would still be running the Germs.

10-08-2006, 11:18 PM

Unless your willing to take other opinions


10-08-2006, 11:56 PM
I've heard the new diamonds were not the best quality compared to their old stuff. I listened to the 165KF and the 165K2P powered by the PDX-4.150 and honestly, I liked the way the 165KFs sounded better. Again there is no way to actually tell what they will truly sound like until they are in the car, but comparing them on the sound board I thought the 165KFs sounded the best so far. How did you like the Focals when you had them in your car? What kind of power did you have going to them?

So you think diamonds instead of the Focals?

10-09-2006, 02:54 AM
So you think diamonds instead of the Focals?

No. I think the Type X instead of the Diamonds.

10-09-2006, 08:42 AM
I was refering to echo's post...he chose diamonds of the list I gave above. I was asking him if he thought to get the diamonds and not the Focals?

10-09-2006, 09:43 AM
I was refering to echo's post...he chose diamonds of the list I gave above. I was asking him if he thought to get the diamonds and not the Focals?

Yeah I know. :laugh:

I was taking his advice and giving another opinion. ;)

10-09-2006, 09:48 AM
I take it your a big fan of alpine...how come type x over focal or any of the others?

10-09-2006, 12:35 PM
The Alpines are very musical. Not a lot of output, but they just sound good. The ring-dome tweeter in the Type-X is nothing like what you'd find in any other Alpine speaker. Very smooth, very nice.

Of all of them, I'd go with the Alpine. It isn't a "wow" kinda speaker, it just sounds right. If you like a brighter tweeter, you might prefer the Focal. To me, it's just overbearing, though.

Can't speak for Rainbow, because I've never heard them. They do have quite a reputation, however.

10-09-2006, 03:55 PM
What rainbow series is equivelant to the Focal 165KFs or 165KPs ??

Seems like everyone on here likes the Soundline SLC265.02's (289.95) or the Geranium CS265.25G's (409.95). Is that a correct assumption?

Looks like they both have the same power handling of 100watts nominal / 150watts max... so whats the main difference between the two?

Also, what amp would be ideal for eitehr set of these? Today a salesman told me that he has the Alpine MRV-F545 and that it is way overrated and that it probably only puts out 75w x 4. Is there any truth to this?

OH!!..I listen to Rap, Dance, Dave mathews, Old Rock, panic at the disco, etc. What would be the best for that kind of music?

10-09-2006, 07:55 PM
i'm so irritated, i didnt realize how hard it was to pick out a pair of components!

10-10-2006, 10:37 AM
i like the mcsq's personally the mid is rather forgiving to what you install them in and the tweeter isnt harsh at all. a buddy of mine has them in kick panels of his focus.

10-11-2006, 02:25 AM
I think i've actually decided on the Boston Pro60 series.


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10-27-2006, 03:22 PM
This is funny. I have the Pro 60's but when I compared them to the Focal 165KF's at the Local Tweeter I thought the Focal's blew them away. I much fuller sound . The other thing is that the Pro 60's require a lot of power ( I think they want 125rms) and I am underpowering them at about 80RMS which is the sweet spot for the Focal's . I am thinking about getting the Focals next year. Did you decide on anythinkg yet?

10-28-2006, 03:00 AM
Just keep in mind that, depending on how you aim them, the Focal tweeter will sound brighter in a car than in a board. That goes for all tweeters, really. Because of this, I generally find metal-dome tweeter irritating. But go with your ear and take what you think sounds best.