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99gtxgolfer
10-01-2006, 07:34 PM
just let it happen... no one likes ricers...

Prowler573
10-01-2006, 07:35 PM
:confused:
Wtf are you talking about?

negativezeroz
10-01-2006, 07:37 PM
well no one likes golfer's who drive Pontiac's


jk

azbass
10-01-2006, 07:39 PM
pwnt

99gtxgolfer
10-01-2006, 07:39 PM
lol that hurt me soo bad

smd4life
10-01-2006, 07:40 PM
OWNED,

:fyi: SI>pontiac :fyi:

Prowler573
10-01-2006, 07:41 PM
Your (assumed) complete lack of intelligence should be the source of considerably more pain than any garnered from negativezero's well-timed slant, I should think.

Your thread still makes no sense...


smd??? Put a bone-stock Honda Si (anything) on the line next to a Pontiac WS6 and see just how pwnt the Honda feels rather quickly... (:) you didn't specify what sort of Pontiac...just Pontiac in general ;))

99gtxgolfer
10-01-2006, 07:41 PM
what i mean by ricers... lil piece of s*** cars tha have lowd exhaust and big spoilers and graphics...fyi... graphics yaaaaaaa that'll give me an extra 300hp!!!

99gtxgolfer
10-01-2006, 07:42 PM
OWNED,

:fyi: SI>pontiac :fyi:

:laugh:

9512ds
10-01-2006, 07:42 PM
Your (assumed) complete lack of intelligence should be the source of considerably more pain than any garnered from negativezero's well-timed slant, I should think.

Your thread still makes no sense...

pwntx2

traksta15
10-01-2006, 07:43 PM
im so lost..........wtf is he talkin about??

smd4life
10-01-2006, 07:43 PM
Your (assumed) complete lack of intelligence should be the source of considerably more pain than any garnered from negativezero's well-timed slant, I should think.

Your thread still makes no sense...

:crazy: :crazy: :hitbrick:

99gtxgolfer
10-01-2006, 07:44 PM
pwntx2

ANdy dawg nooooooo

heyman421
10-01-2006, 07:45 PM
i'd have a hard time adjusting to a car with no torque, and i've always been a german car buff myself, but i'll admit any day of the week, the japanese auto manufacturers are 2nd to none in engine design, efficiency, reliability, and head flow.

vtec heads flow better than an american or german head could ever dream of, regardless of how much machining you put into it.

you show me any other engine that can flow enough cubes to run a smooth boosted torque curve past 9k, and i'll join in the hate.

azimuth
10-01-2006, 07:47 PM
to each their own. it takes balls to drive a black accord with pink and yellow stripes on it.

negativezeroz
10-01-2006, 07:54 PM
smd??? Put a bone-stock Honda Si (anything) on the line next to a Pontiac WS6 and see just how pwnt the Honda feels rather quickly... (:) you didn't specify what sort of Pontiac...just Pontiac in general ;))

Lets see...

K20Z3 vs LS-1

Hmm yeah thats a fair race :rolleyes:

-------------------------------

Aerial Atom vs WS6

K20 vs LS-1 ... K20 >>>>>>>> LS-1

Twistid
10-01-2006, 07:58 PM
you guys are so lame

you remind me of the fat kid in the back of the class who makes fun of everyone and sits alone at lunch

just because you dislike flamboyant viynal stickers and snow plow body kits dosent mean everyone else does

blaze383
10-01-2006, 07:59 PM
I drive a ricer thats extremely loud, looks great and gets incredible gas mileage......I LOVE IT is all I can say and keep burnin gas in the Pontiac as ill be drivin along gettin 36 mpgs

bbka
10-01-2006, 09:41 PM
I'm with ya man, I hate ricers too!

smd4life
10-01-2006, 09:46 PM
Your (assumed) complete lack of intelligence should be the source of considerably more pain than any garnered from negativezero's well-timed slant, I should think.

Your thread still makes no sense...


smd??? Put a bone-stock Honda Si (anything) on the line next to a Pontiac WS6 and see just how pwnt the Honda feels rather quickly... (:) you didn't specify what sort of Pontiac...just Pontiac in general ;))

:fyi:NSX>sunfire :fyi:


j/k sundfire>all

zthumper
10-01-2006, 09:49 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/793000-793999/793883_9_full.jpg

99gtxgolfer
10-02-2006, 11:43 AM
I drive a ricer thats extremely loud, looks great and gets incredible gas mileage......I LOVE IT is all I can say and keep burnin gas in the Pontiac as ill be drivin along gettin 36 mpgs

pics??? let us decide

99gtxgolfer
10-02-2006, 11:44 AM
:fyi:NSX>sunfire :fyi:


j/k sundfire>all

pretty sure a NSX is not even close to being a ricer... :hilariou: unless you put graphics on it or a big wing...therefore you would be a idiot to do that.

Lunchbocks
10-03-2006, 12:02 AM
I'm a ricer, how about you come to SCC at 41 since you're in Indiana and you can just put me in my place with your Grand Prix.

99gtxgolfer
10-03-2006, 08:57 AM
I'm a ricer, how about you come to SCC at 41 since you're in Indiana and you can just put me in my place with your Grand Prix.

Car???

negativezeroz
10-03-2006, 11:43 AM
pretty sure a NSX is not even close to being a ricer... :hilariou: unless you put graphics on it or a big wing...therefore you would be a idiot to do that.

http://www.eastonchang.com/NSXGT/_F4U8705.jpg
http://www.infoscourse.org/2006_SUPER_GT/Honda_NSX_HondaRacing.jpg

heyman421
10-03-2006, 11:47 AM
must belong to a real idot

StealthKill
10-03-2006, 12:02 PM
I RARELY see a ricer I like, but when I do I meet the guy and realize hes a complete idiot that only has money.

kuijo
10-03-2006, 12:09 PM
http://www.eastonchang.com/NSXGT/_F4U8705.jpg
http://www.infoscourse.org/2006_SUPER_GT/Honda_NSX_HondaRacing.jpg

pretty sure that car's sponsored making the stickers a-ok in my book. as well i bet the bodys made of fiberglass making it super light which would make that wing completly functional since just a little downforce would help out.

reneeb7363
10-03-2006, 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by blaze383
I drive a ricer thats extremely loud, looks great and gets incredible gas mileage......I LOVE IT is all I can say and keep burnin gas in the Pontiac as ill be drivin along gettin 36 mpgs

x 2 !

stock to stock, I have yet to find a grand prix, grand am, or any other pontiac that I couldn't walk away from in my lil honda prelude with its lil 4 cylinder 2.3L engine. AND I still get 27+ MPG!

try and keep up......buh-bye now!!! :escape:

crazy4ozs
10-03-2006, 12:22 PM
I'm a ricer, how about you come to SCC at 41 since you're in Indiana and you can just put me in my place with your Grand Prix.

lancers=teh ****

/thread

negativezeroz
10-03-2006, 12:27 PM
lancers=teh ****

/thread

No..

Evo's are nice but Lancer *****.

crazy4ozs
10-03-2006, 12:32 PM
:fyi:evo motor=lancer motor :fyi:


































-turbo

kuijo
10-03-2006, 12:33 PM
:fyi:evo motor=lancer motor :fyi:
I dunno who told you that.. but they lied to you.

A turbo'ed oz still isn't ****. and won't come close to evo territory.

Oz engine = made to be n/a
Evo engine = made to be trubo'ed

crazy4ozs
10-03-2006, 12:35 PM
ud be suprsed ;)

kuijo
10-03-2006, 12:37 PM
ud be suprsed ;)

no i wouldn't. stock whp for an oz is 107....
and run low 16s-17s.

Evos run 13s stock.

Flipx99
10-03-2006, 12:53 PM
x 2 !

stock to stock, I have yet to find a grand prix, grand am, or any other pontiac that I couldn't walk away from in my lil honda prelude with its lil 4 cylinder 2.3L engine. AND I still get 27+ MPG!

try and keep up......buh-bye now!!! :escape:

I think the fieros may give you a run for your money.

Also you may want to consider the cost of the car. From some quick research, the preludes in 1994 were aprox $25k. For that price, you can buy a trans-am, which is close to 27 mpg. I wouldn't think you would walk away from a trans-am. For $25k, I can find better.

negativezeroz
10-03-2006, 01:00 PM
:fyi:evo motor=lancer motor :fyi:
-turbo

The regular Lancer has the 4G64/3. But the Sportback and Ralliart have the 4G69. Evo has 4G63.

stuckinok
10-03-2006, 01:04 PM
no i wouldn't. stock whp for an oz is 107....
and run low 16s-17s.

Evos run 13s stock.

lancers=owned

GordonW
10-04-2006, 03:51 PM
x 2 !

stock to stock, I have yet to find a grand prix, grand am, or any other pontiac that I couldn't walk away from in my lil honda prelude with its lil 4 cylinder 2.3L engine. AND I still get 27+ MPG!

try and keep up......buh-bye now!!! :escape:

2005 GTO-R (ie, LS-7)?

1969 Ram Air V Trans-Am (485HP)?

1999 Firebird Firehawk (beefed-up LS1)?

1962 Lightweight 421SD Tempest (easy 10.20 quarter mile car)?

1973 SD455 Trans-Am (165+MPH top speed)?

I'd have some serious doubts... :D

Regards,
Gordon.

Storm90
10-04-2006, 04:05 PM
^^^ LOL thats true. Also i drive a pontiac and i haven't got beaten by a honda yet.

ex_03
10-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Ricer = Plastic addon's I agree waist of money. Most kids do it until they realize how dumb. Imports in general are not ricer's there imports. Link (http://www.aempower.com/ViewCrew.aspx?MemberID=3) This gay arguement has been going for a million years. The problem is and will always be money!

Any car can be faster than any other car with money. The trick is learning how to do it cheap. Most people like imports becuase the light weight and good gas mileage they get.

ketleer
10-04-2006, 04:23 PM
Tuned Imports - I don't mind them at all, I even have respect for them, to be able to take a 4 cylinder and get decent quarter mile times.

Ricers - No repsect, Kids that go by hondas then just add a fart pipe. Waste of money IMO and they should be shot for being idiots.

ex_03
10-04-2006, 04:30 PM
Tuned Imports - I don't mind them at all, I even have respect for them, to be able to take a 4 cylinder and get decent quarter mile times.

Ricers - No repsect, Kids that go by hondas then just add a fart pipe. Waste of money IMO and they should be shot for being idiots. Thank hollywierd for that, They make the gay movies glamourizing cheap addons. Kids dont realize that it can cost 30,000 to 100,000 depending on what your going for to have car like they see in the movies.

There was guy on 7thgencivic with a tuned turboed 2001 civic with a K20a2 that ran 11's. He posted vid's of it and the car was sick! but he said it ran him 34g's+.

gl0ck
10-04-2006, 04:32 PM
6g72<4g63

:naughty:

193dBman
10-04-2006, 05:13 PM
Fwd vs. Rwd

IrTehL33T@DBeez
10-05-2006, 01:06 AM
Car???

4 dr mitsu, you arent afraid of that are you? not like its a built civic race car or something

Lunchbocks
10-05-2006, 01:08 AM
4 dr mitsu, you arent afraid of that are you? not like its a built civic race car or something

Yup, I am indeed challenging you with a 4 door mitsubishi that isn't an evo and is far from a race car.

phantom240
10-08-2006, 11:11 PM
lol. This is a funny thread. But saying that ppl who buy imports and slap a fart can on are ricers is just ignorant. Take me for example. 4 years back i bought a 1991 Nissan 240sx. I was 14. The car sat at my house for a few years until i could get my license, at which point my dad bought a 1990 acura legend coupe (which i have a boner for) so i drove that for 2 years. Meanwhile i was rebuilding the 240. It needed motor work, bodywork, and the stock leather seats were garbage. Sanded the car down, replaced the seats and filled in my dents. The acura gave out. SO, being that the parts to fix the car were out of my price range at the time, i started to drive the 240. The first thing i did was get a catback. No its not a fart can. Yes it is louder than stock. At the time i could afford to only upgrade a lil at a time. This weekend im fixing my motor (again) and beefing it up with a header, short shifter, new MSD coil, and the general gasket replacements. The car is already dropped 1.5in and i have an aem intake. Am I a ricer? I dont think so. Not everyone can build their car at one time. Do i have a huge wing and graphics? no. Thats retarded. Will i get a wing? yes, a classy one. It IS rwd after all.

heyman421
10-09-2006, 11:28 AM
saying "classy wing" is like saying "champaign of beers"

i'll bet you're a big goober

DjiNN
10-09-2006, 11:40 AM
lol .. for me .. i consider people who mod honda's or nissan's or even misubitshi cars ricers .. mostly hondas though .. like for me .. i want to do an engine swap 3S-GTE into my 01 corolla and do a cat back using a EX-Mag exhaust (quiet). These upgrades alone cost in the range of 8K or so.

phyphoestilic
10-09-2006, 11:43 AM
Why the hell is this in Car Performace and Repair? shouldn't it be in The Lounge since it has really nothing to do with anything?

springy101
10-09-2006, 11:45 AM
im putting a wing on my ford taurus, it adds teh horsepower

9512ds
10-09-2006, 11:54 AM
im putting a wing on my ford taurus, it adds teh horsepower

i already put one on my grand cherokee along with teh super intercoooolerzzz

springy101
10-09-2006, 11:57 AM
im thinking about adding a blower later on down the road, but im gonna put some type r stickers on it to make it stronger

klepto
10-09-2006, 02:17 PM
Brash generalizations fuel ignorance, its awesome.

klepto
10-09-2006, 02:19 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer4.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer5.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer6.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer7.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer8.jpg

I lawl'd. 56k u die and go to hell.

dleccord
10-09-2006, 04:14 PM
I lawl'd. 56k u die and go to hell.

???

lol though...

negativezeroz
10-09-2006, 04:56 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer3.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer4.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer5.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer6.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer7.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/goatboy_521/ricer8.jpg

Sure those are all extremely gay BUT how man of those would YOU see in your town?

Those are just extreme cases. Most common "ricers" have Pep-Boys' mufflers with 3" piping on an NA motor, along with neons, stripes/graphics, wings etc

phantom240
10-09-2006, 05:17 PM
saying "classy wing" is like saying "champaign of beers"

i'll bet you're a big goober

no no no. ill show you what i mean.
This is a ricer wing.
http://moblog.co.uk/blogs/1163/moblog_e5253fb2d2c0a.jpg

This is what i would consider a non-ricer wing. On a 240sx in fact.
http://buyspoilers.com/SPOILERS/spoilers%20NISSAN%20TYPE%20SELECTION/240SX%2089-94%20REAR%20WING/ni240SX408.jpg

see what i mean?

klepto
10-09-2006, 06:11 PM
???

lol though...

It means if u have 56k and u try to view this thread, u die.

khops
10-10-2006, 10:54 PM
x 2 !

stock to stock, I have yet to find a grand prix, grand am, or any other pontiac that I couldn't walk away from in my lil honda prelude with its lil 4 cylinder 2.3L engine. AND I still get 27+ MPG!

try and keep up......buh-bye now!!! :escape:i would love to see a prelude keep up with a grand prix gtp,bonneville ssei,gto,firebird,transam,or solstice when there both stock

dleccord
10-10-2006, 10:57 PM
lol

AJ≤06
10-10-2006, 11:00 PM
I hate ricers too... :D lol Well the cars at least

azbass
10-11-2006, 01:00 AM
TT VW r32 > all.

reneeb7363
10-13-2006, 07:09 PM
i would love to see a prelude keep up with a grand prix gtp,bonneville ssei,gto,firebird,transam,or solstice when there both stock

did I mention it was Japanese stock engine.. lol??? :uhoh:
Obviuously I forgot to mention when I stated that we were talking about grand prix's, grand ams, sunbirds, and all the other crap that pontiac put out when my car was born. 1992
I DID own a Grand Prix (94) and my lil Honda is a helluvalot faster than that ol 6 cylinder POS! An I did just take on a new Grand AM (tink it was an '05??) and wiped his butt too...took him off the line and at 130mph I still had pedal and he was fading into my dust... :blackeye:
a GTO, Firebird, or TransAm were all built in the muscle car era and were horsepower monsters with giant 8 cylinder blocks... so called ricers werent even a wet dream... unless someone took a v8 and shoe-horned it into a vega or, (god help us--and I have seen it) a Gremlin! LOL!
How can you compare a V8 to a 4 cylinder? Course..... I know it is all my fault for not being perfectly accurate when I originally stated my opinions... I should be banned for life! :crazy:


that's just my opinion.. I could be wrong... (and according to 9 out of 10 men I must be because I have :*******:
wa-ha-ha-ha!!!


this is all really just a peenis thing huh? :crap:

bimmer540i
10-14-2006, 12:03 AM
...took him off the line and at 130mph I still had pedal

ermmm...A prelude has the gears to do 130?

heyman421
10-14-2006, 12:05 AM
i might believe that...

my 90hp tdi would do 114 @ 3800rpms or so

never had the balls to take it much above that (or the space)

bimmer540i
10-14-2006, 12:07 AM
Well, now I rethink it, a prelude might reach 130, but it would be screaming.

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 12:20 AM
i stick whole heartedly behind my statement.

id rather push my pontiac than drive a honda.

or acura
or mitsubishi
or any other non-respectable import

phantom240
10-14-2006, 12:31 AM
i stick whole heartedly behind my statement.

id rather push my pontiac than drive a honda.

or acura
or mitsubishi
or any other non-respectable import

:wow: and what makes it a non-repectable import? I would rather cut holes in the floor of my nissan and use it like fred flintstone than drive your pontiac. What is so wrong with a RWD lightweight car with independant suspension and all sorta goodies (built in 1991 BTW)? Oh wait. Cuz its not a V6 gas guzzling land barge? Go back to your trailer park you feg knob gobbler. Just cuz its from japan doesnt make it "non-respectable". Which vehicles hold their value longer, Toyota or Chevy? Answer : Toyota, cuz they arent POS's. Which gets better mileage on the whole, Japanese imports, or american cars? Jap cars of course. And when it comes to trucks, the Nissan Titan pwns you until you get into diesel.


pontiac

Poor
Old
Negro
Thinks
Its
A
Caddilac

Eugenics
10-14-2006, 12:59 AM
you guys are so lame

you remind me of the fat kid in the back of the class who makes fun of everyone and sits alone at lunch

just because you dislike flamboyant viynal stickers and snow plow body kits dosent mean everyone else does

everyone should. if you're not being paid to put them on there one way or another you're a schmuck


I'm with ya man, I hate ricers too!


x 2 !

stock to stock, I have yet to find a grand prix, grand am, or any other pontiac that I couldn't walk away from in my lil honda prelude with its lil 4 cylinder 2.3L engine. AND I still get 27+ MPG!

try and keep up......buh-bye now!!! :escape:

the h23a is an alright motor but that was a very bold statment to make. bold and incorrect.


lancers=teh ****

/thread

they are pieces of ****, yes


:fyi:evo motor=lancer motor :fyi:




-turbo

no, they really aren't.


I think the fieros may give you a run for your money.

Also you may want to consider the cost of the car. From some quick research, the preludes in 1994 were aprox $25k. For that price, you can buy a trans-am, which is close to 27 mpg. I wouldn't think you would walk away from a trans-am. For $25k, I can find better.

fiero's are teh ****


lol. This is a funny thread. But saying that ppl who buy imports and slap a fart can on are ricers is just ignorant. Take me for example. 4 years back i bought a 1991 Nissan 240sx. I was 14. The car sat at my house for a few years until i could get my license, at which point my dad bought a 1990 acura legend coupe (which i have a boner for) so i drove that for 2 years. Meanwhile i was rebuilding the 240. It needed motor work, bodywork, and the stock leather seats were garbage. Sanded the car down, replaced the seats and filled in my dents. The acura gave out. SO, being that the parts to fix the car were out of my price range at the time, i started to drive the 240. The first thing i did was get a catback. No its not a fart can. Yes it is louder than stock. At the time i could afford to only upgrade a lil at a time. This weekend im fixing my motor (again) and beefing it up with a header, short shifter, new MSD coil, and the general gasket replacements. The car is already dropped 1.5in and i have an aem intake. Am I a ricer? I dont think so. Not everyone can build their car at one time. Do i have a huge wing and graphics? no. Thats retarded. Will i get a wing? yes, a classy one. It IS rwd after all.

agreed.


TT VW r32 > all.

helll no!


Well, now I rethink it, a prelude might reach 130, but it would be screaming.

not without tampering with or replacing the ECU. They are pretty stable at that speed surprisingly. Alot more stable then my (NOW SOLD!!!!) stang was.

AJ≤06
10-14-2006, 01:34 AM
:wow: and what makes it a non-repectable import? I would rather cut holes in the floor of my nissan and use it like fred flintstone than drive your pontiac. What is so wrong with a RWD lightweight car with independant suspension and all sorta goodies (built in 1991 BTW)? Oh wait. Cuz its not a V6 gas guzzling land barge? Go back to your trailer park you feg knob gobbler. Just cuz its from japan doesnt make it "non-respectable". Which vehicles hold their value longer, Toyota or Chevy? Answer : Toyota, cuz they arent POS's. Which gets better mileage on the whole, Japanese imports, or american cars? Jap cars of course. And when it comes to trucks, the Nissan Titan pwns you until you get into diesel.


pontiac

Poor
Old
Negro
Thinks
Its
A
Caddilac

:hilariou:

:wow:

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 01:38 AM
a GTO, Firebird, or TransAm were all built in the muscle car era and were horsepower monsters with giant 8 cylinder blocks... so called ricers werent even a wet dream... unless someone took a v8 and shoe-horned it into a vega or, (god help us--and I have seen it) a Gremlin! LOL!
How can you compare a V8 to a 4 cylinder? Course..... I know it is all my fault for not being perfectly accurate when I originally stated my opinions... I should be banned for life! :crazy:

this is all really just a peenis thing huh? :crap:

Apparently it is a peenis thing cuz everyone is getting defensive. So lets take whatever street-legal GM you all want against Z-Tune.

[/thread]

reneeb7363
10-14-2006, 01:40 AM
Well, now I rethink it, a prelude might reach 130, but it would be screaming.

thank you ...

I have had it as fast as 132-135-6...(bout 6K revs) goin fast enough I didnt spend a lot of time lookin at the speedo...still had about 1200 RPM to go...I dont start floating it until about 7200 RPM... in all truth. and ya...its screamin, but rarin' to go.

If ya Ever get to Idaho we will go fer a ride! LOL! If you trust a woman driver in a quick car...

reneeb7363
10-14-2006, 01:44 AM
ermmm...A prelude has the gears to do 130?

5-speed... yes it does....with room to spare... I bought it from a third party, to be honest, I assume it is stock based on what I have been told by mechanics (not necissarily good ones until recently) and people whom assume to know about Honda's.


Eugenics posted: the h23a is an alright motor but that was a very bold statment to make. bold and incorrect.

you are right, bold, and stupid, of me not to clarify my thoughts on the pontiac vs. honda race I had just participated in the previous weekend... but not incorrect, (I always get called out on this and its my fault for responding while at work--if it gets busy I have to lay aside my thoughts and come back when the calls slow down)
I do believe, if you read my earlier reply, I clarified that we were talking about the sunbird to grand prix series...my sis owned a sunbird, my boyfriend a grand am, and myself a Grand prix and a Bonneville (hardest car to get in and out of) for four short months until I found I got pregnant and bought a van. (a TransSport Van for da family--but that doesnt count in this thread)..IMO..they were all ****. Period....


quoted from Black_Jesus: i stick whole heartedly behind my statement.
id rather push my pontiac than drive a honda.
Well, In my experience you will get your wish...go ahead and push that pontiac...it's gotta get to the repairshop somehow. BTW...has your odometer started spinning rapidly yet, adding on miles? What about the ignition not accepting the factory key? Oh, and the fuel injectors fartin out ALL AT ONCE ....Wait, it will...my grand prix AND a TransSport van I had BOTH started all their **** after about 48K to 50K or so.
I will NEVER OWN another Pontiac... didnt like them then, dont like em now. Is that okay I dont like a vehicle you do? Or is everyone wrong because they dont see the world the way you do?

same as the ol chevy vs. ford debate.... the debate doesnt **** me off, and no, I dont have the fastest car (I cant validate $10K for a top of the line fuel injection/Nitrous system.) But it is mine and I own the title, and I dont have to constantly take it to the garage like I did with every pontiac I ever owned. (why so many?--I listened to my stupid *** husband that thought Pontiacs were good cars--women dont know anything right?) Honda (and Toyota) engines are very well known for being able to turn out 200K miles and still run. All-be-it they have their own mechanical failures too--(Honda = timing chains) but I am not replacing an engine every 150K (if your lucky with that pontiac) miles.

again...this is all just IMO... and some from personal experience. Don't deny what you cant prove. COme take a ride and I will show you how quickly I can get my car to 130+ anytime babe. And I dont have to have a peenis to do it! LOL....

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 01:47 AM
:wow: and what makes it a non-repectable import? I would rather cut holes in the floor of my nissan and use it like fred flintstone than drive your pontiac. What is so wrong with a RWD lightweight car with independant suspension and all sorta goodies (built in 1991 BTW)? Oh wait. Cuz its not a V6 gas guzzling land barge? Go back to your trailer park you feg knob gobbler. Just cuz its from japan doesnt make it "non-respectable". Which vehicles hold their value longer, Toyota or Chevy? Answer : Toyota, cuz they arent POS's. Which gets better mileage on the whole, Japanese imports, or american cars? Jap cars of course. And when it comes to trucks, the Nissan Titan pwns you until you get into diesel.


pontiac

Poor
Old
Negro
Thinks
Its
A
Caddilacjealous that by the time your done winding through first im on my way thru 3rd i see...

you enjoy your import.

ill continue to smoke rice instead of burn it.

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 01:47 AM
jealous that by the time your done winding through first im on my way thru 3rd i see...

you enjoy your import.

ill continue to smoke rice instead of burn it.

:rolleyes:

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 01:50 AM
roll your eyes all you want, civic boy.

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 01:52 AM
roll your eyes all you want, civic boy.
:rolleyes:

Go race a SC K20 or an SR20. See what happens.

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 01:54 AM
remember Req's signature? whats in your rear view mirror?

i know whats in mine.

your car.

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 01:54 AM
remember Req's signature? whats in your rear view mirror?

i know whats in mine.

your car.

Good one. RB26DETT > you

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 01:55 AM
ls7 > you

AJ≤06
10-14-2006, 01:55 AM
Someones gay? :uhoh:

???

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 01:55 AM
naturally aspirated even.

dont get me started on a twin screw on that *****.

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 01:57 AM
ls7 > you

Oh really? I didn't know a 7L V8 > my little 2L 4cyc. Thank you. I would have never known if you hadn't pointed it out. My mistake....

Z-Tune will whoop up on the LS7 all day everyday. 2.6L > 7L

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 01:58 AM
if it aint big, its for a woman.

or a F1 car.

:)

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 02:00 AM
lol at jman

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 02:00 AM
maybe if you did more than watch people poop you'd be able to hear things properly. :)

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 02:07 AM
you need to slam the van...lol do it...I saw an Odyssey with 20" dubs..Not gonna lie, it was sick.

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 02:08 AM
nice.


anyway, im going to bed.

been up like 16 hours and i open and close tomorrow at my shop. peece bishes.

bikejunkie223
10-14-2006, 03:06 AM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2986/ricerexcusegaugewebmi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I drive a Honda, but it is clearly no ricer. Here's my cardomain site: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2258844

Prowler573
10-14-2006, 03:42 AM
Their money, their car ... I'm sorry that your life is so sad that you have to make pointless threads making fun of what other people do with their money and posessions ...
:word:

I get heaps of people that give me static about investing the effort in my car that I have (it is a Geo after all! :laugh:).
I care.
When they start buying my gas and paying my insurance I'll worry about what they think of my car.

phantom240
10-14-2006, 09:52 AM
:word:

I get heaps of people that give me static about investing the effort in my car that I have (it is a Geo after all! :laugh:).
I care.
When they start buying my gas and paying my insurance I'll worry about what they think of my car.

ya know, thats a good point!




But anyways black jesus, Youre trying to compare motors that are in completely different leagues here. Sure you can pull 400 ponies from an LS7 really easily... but how about from an SR20 a 2.0L inline 4? or from a KA24DE? D16? The highest HP ive seen on a KA24DE is 576 RWHP, on stock internals. There have been higher numbers with new internals, but i wont get into that. An LS7 is more than double the size of a KA24DE, so if we were to double the output of the KA, than your motor would have to produce over 1152 hp at the wheels to be as efficient as the KA in terms of HP to displacement.... on stock internals. Can you do it?

Black_Jesus
10-14-2006, 11:41 AM
who cares about efficiency?

its like a intel vs amd war.

intel aint efficient, amd is. amd still looses lol

negativezeroz
10-14-2006, 01:20 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2986/ricerexcusegaugewebmi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I drive a Honda, but it is clearly no ricer. Here's my cardomain site: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2258844

Fellow K20 owner. My gma has a silver 03 likes yours. It's cool but compared to mine...:up2somet:

Eugenics
10-14-2006, 01:39 PM
i forgot what the hell a z tune is. either way some of you have your heads pretty far up your asses comparing an ls7 to a 4cyl. why not compare the vipers 8.3l v-10? not paying attention to who said it, just saying.

kuijo
10-14-2006, 02:11 PM
i could find a civic hatch gutted easily for 2000 dollars.

How much does a z06 cost? 70,000?

how fast do you think i could get that civic hatch with 68,000 to play with..?

Eugenics
10-14-2006, 02:18 PM
thats really not a fair comparison either. and you'd be hard pressed to get a civic as fast round a track for 100k. without it being uncomfortable as ****.

Alpine CDA-9815
10-14-2006, 03:19 PM
how fast do you think i could get that civic hatch with 68,000 to play with..?
Think of all the wings and neon kits that would buy... :naughty:

sqhertz
10-14-2006, 03:24 PM
ricer :laugh: .
without reading 8 pages on kids drag racing stock '88 civic dx's:

cars with loud mufflers , windows tinted with product decals , and kids driving them from the backseat cause there front seat is so ****in reclined due to the fact thier car is still slow and dont want to be seen in it = rice ftl.

normal people driving an economical automobile for thier cost = ftmfw!

but some imports do look nice and/or better with susp. drops , rims and SOME body kits. but kids who buy them and run them into parking blocks and curbs are ****in retarded. i saw some one iknow just buy a 93? 4dr accord with a body kit, air bags , rims , system , some basic bolt on mods..then forget to adjust the bags and and try to ride up on my friends steep *** driveway. fiberglass everywhere , front lip dragging down the street :laugh:

point = some of it is nice , but people do go very overboard without putting anything else into concideration (driving enviroment , daily driver?, how ****ing loud and ghey looking its going to be)



-selling 91 celica st for 91+ 240sx.

phantom240
10-14-2006, 06:25 PM
Yay. coming over from the dark side eh? I love my 91 S13 fastback. Me and a firend are almost finished dropping the new(er) motor in it along with mods. Shes gonna be a whole new beast.

58customs
10-14-2006, 06:48 PM
i could find a civic hatch gutted easily for 2000 dollars.

How much does a z06 cost? 70,000?

how fast do you think i could get that civic hatch with 68,000 to play with..?

You might be able to put a jet engine in it for 68k.

sqhertz
10-14-2006, 07:08 PM
Yay. coming over from the dark side eh? I love my 91 S13 fastback. Me and a firend are almost finished dropping the new(er) motor in it along with mods. Shes gonna be a whole new beast.

well.. the celica is nice but looking for parts is a pita! the 240's are very nice for what they are, and parts are easy to come by , stock or performance. turbo kits are readily available too. :yumyum:

wtf is this doing in performance and repair??:confused:

phantom240
10-14-2006, 07:23 PM
lol. Should be in LACK of performance, needs repair. Hardcore 240 enthusiasts are a different breed. Theyre really cool. Check out www.zilvia.net www.club240.com/forums and www.240sxforums.com im a member of all of those. I get a motor for 200 bucks, but it has 98k on it. My 240 is a 16 year old car with the heart of a 10 year old. lol.

sqhertz
10-14-2006, 07:29 PM
yeh ive checked them out. very into-thier-**** people to say the least. but they arnt the usual impot either, and shouldnt be treated like one. like the rx-7 , supra etc. , but they arnt ungodly expencive...but they can be if you make it. :crap:

woody89
10-14-2006, 07:41 PM
My Camry has a can exhaust and itís dropped two inches. Although I can make complete sentences, you can't. Therefore ricers own you.

phantom240
10-14-2006, 07:47 PM
yeh ive checked them out. very into-thier-**** people to say the least. but they arnt the usual impot either, and shouldnt be treated like one. like the rx-7 , supra etc. , but they arnt ungodly expencive...but they can be if you make it. :crap:

Yeah, 240 owners are very proud of their treasures. Hell, im swapping a 95 motor into my 91 and adding mods and such while its all down and easy to work on, and its costing me over 1400 including the price of the motor after all the mounts, header, fluids and other crap associated... and dont regret a bit of it.

And woody wtf are you talking about? Quoting ftw

sqhertz
10-14-2006, 07:47 PM
My Camry has a can exhaust and itís dropped two inches. Although I can make complete sentences, you can't. Therefore ricers own you.

complete sentances on a CA forum are irrelevant to everyday life. ricers own nothing. :rolleyes:

phantom240
10-14-2006, 07:49 PM
complete sentances on a CA forum are irrelevant to everyday life. ricers own nothing. :rolleyes:

Except POS cars

SQBubble
10-14-2006, 07:55 PM
TT VW r32 > all.

hell yeaaaaaaa, r32 pwnsss ALL, can u import to usa or its illegal??

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m239/SQBubble/2.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m239/SQBubble/1.jpg




also, i did 130mph with a honda accord '92 with an imported used STOCK japenese accord '92 engine (50 000km) and was the most fun car to drive, was quick, handled like a champ, all stock I just swapped the engine to a "new" used one.

also, pontiacs gran am and all these are pretty heavy and arent effiecient at all....

i hate heavy cars:crap:

phantom240
10-14-2006, 07:58 PM
x2 on heavy cars. They handle like road turds

Silver
10-14-2006, 07:59 PM
i laught at all of you

sqhertz
10-14-2006, 08:00 PM
heavy cars like camaros , firebirds , TA's = tree huggers

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:00 PM
heavy cars like camaros , firebirds , TA's = tree huggers

lol.

Lunchbocks
10-14-2006, 08:01 PM
hell yeaaaaaaa, r32 pwnsss ALL, can u import to usa or its illegal??



Theres an R32 in America... a classmate of mine purchased one well over a year ago. Is it drastically different than the Euro model?

Lunchbocks
10-14-2006, 08:04 PM
And I can't believe this thread got revived the last day or two with several more pages. This type of argument is on every car forum but I think it may be particularly irritating on here do to the general ignorance and lack of knowledge outside of audio equipment. I'd say 8 out of 10 of the members here don't have a clue when it comes to performance modifications and potential. This bs should really just come to an end, seeing as how all of the common weak standpoints and unrealistic comparisions have arisen already. Quit fueling the ignorance.

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:04 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/08a65a85-77f0-4f85-8243-985600ee7a36.htm

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:05 PM
Theres an R32 in America... a classmate of mine purchased one well over a year ago. Is it drastically different than the Euro model?


I think its the same, I'm really not sure. I've only seen jap de-tuned...

Fast1one
10-14-2006, 08:13 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/08a65a85-77f0-4f85-8243-985600ee7a36.htmCheck out this family sedan yo :D This Maxima would give those cobras a run for their money...NA auto as well...

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=495197

I was speechless when I saw that lol...

phantom240
10-14-2006, 08:14 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/08a65a85-77f0-4f85-8243-985600ee7a36.htm

They sound like women heading to a shoe store's 75% off sale

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:17 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/recentvideos/6/ec691cdd-ac1f-4ea1-8bd9-9857017b5f83.htm

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:18 PM
Check out this family sedan yo :D This Maxima would give those cobras a run for their money...NA auto as well...

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=495197

I was speechless when I saw that lol...


yea some of those maximas are mean as hell.

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:19 PM
They sound like women heading to a shoe store's 75% off sale

And your point?

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:24 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/Thunderbird/1/9d1ff64b-2ec0-405d-9adf-1ff828044d38.htm

I always love this vid. Wish I had the money :(

Alpine CDA-9815
10-14-2006, 08:24 PM
x2 on heavy cars. They handle like road turds
:rolleyes:

phantom240
10-14-2006, 08:29 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/recentvideos/6/ec691cdd-ac1f-4ea1-8bd9-9857017b5f83.htm

lol. i heard a ricey fart can at the end

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:40 PM
lol. i heard a ricey fart can at the end
yeah a ricey fart can that ran a 10.8 *******.

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:41 PM
this one's for you

http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Mazda/0/e1c22512-dc2c-42e9-9c08-98570032dbb9.htm

Silver
10-14-2006, 08:46 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/240sx/4/873f75bd-881b-4d1b-be75-3d32eb81a539.htm

i mean this one lol

phantom240
10-14-2006, 08:57 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/240sx/4/873f75bd-881b-4d1b-be75-3d32eb81a539.htm

i mean this one lol

And your point is? I never said i liked the sr20det. And as with any cars/trends/groups Youre going to have complete idiots who are in it just to look cool, and in cars, we call those ricers. This guy is a prime example of a ricer. He thinks that just because he has a JDM turbo motor and maybe some boltons, that he is god. And i think that he got what was comin to him. Street racing is for ****.

audiobahnuser18
10-14-2006, 09:01 PM
99gtx everyone has a taste of cars man u don't have to put em down for what they like now me i like all cars and trucks etc......and if you need to post something down 2 put racers down you need to get a life.

heyman421
10-14-2006, 09:08 PM
Theres an R32 in America... a classmate of mine purchased one well over a year ago. Is it drastically different than the Euro model?

there's slight differences... american cars have to be higher, hence the popularity of lowering kits

there's a few other slight differences. rest assured the us model is much heavier.

Silver
10-14-2006, 09:10 PM
Eh, forget it.

I like it all so it doesn't matter, but all I am is a Ford at heart.

heyman421
10-14-2006, 09:12 PM
haha, no, it's just crash safety.

europe has way less safety regulations, cause their driving laws/ requirements are so much more strict

i know at least in germany, a drivers liscence costs $1,000's of dollars, and the requirements to have a liscence are pretty intense.

Over here, if you have a social security card, and a birth certificate, they hand you a liscence.

Silver
10-14-2006, 09:14 PM
We need a autobahn in America!

audiobahnuser18
10-14-2006, 09:15 PM
i agree with jmanpc this post shouldn't even be here i think hes a dee dee haha.

sqhertz
10-14-2006, 09:25 PM
Yeah, what the hell is a thread that involves car performance discussion doing in a section called car performance and repair ? :rolleyes:

Wow, you're a retard ... Congrats ...

its not really discussing at this point. just people flaming eachothers tastes in cars, it seems. dont need to get sand in your *******.

sqhertz
10-14-2006, 09:27 PM
Camaro weighs less than a 911 Turbo, Ferrari 612, or Lamborghini Murcielago :fyi:

how many people do you see driving those in ratio to those cars i listed? very few. and if they weigh that much, theyre tree huggers in my book.

heyman421
10-14-2006, 09:31 PM
i sure as hell wouldn't street race in any of them......

they'd be fun track cars, tho

Silver
10-14-2006, 09:32 PM
I wouldn't street race period.

heyman421
10-14-2006, 09:36 PM
Well, i didn't mean race, i've never actually 'raced'

i just mean, i wouldn't get carried away with any spirited driving in any of those cars.

They're actually DESIGNED to kick out around the twisties.... not a good thing on a normal road.

phantom240
10-14-2006, 09:59 PM
We need a autobahn in America!

x2. and stricter requirements on driving tests and so on... but less emissions bullshit. I almost got t-boned by a retard in a riced out cavalier (SP?) the other night in New Orleans east (Gretna area)... they still dont have power to most of the traffic lights and few businesses are open... but i was making a left at the stop sign at the intersection to get to a service road, and coming toward the intersection i see a ricey car so i keep on my way, cuz with his outrageous headlights im sure he could see the big red stop sign... well he must have thought he was too cool for it and decided not to stop... until he noticed that the truck i was driving would have pwnt him and stopped at the last second. Tards. These are the people that cause insurance rates to go up, give certain groups bad reps, and end up giving you a headache because they were retarded and caused an accident.

/rant

heyman421
10-14-2006, 10:24 PM
problem is, with the way the us is arranged (cities, suburbs, etc) private transportation is NECESSITY, rather than a priveledge.

now, if they restricted HIGHWAYS to people with 'highway liscences' something could happen.

but unfortunately, busses don't go everywhere, so the blind, deaf, retarded, and soccer moms too, will have to share the road.

i watched some documentary on the autobahn, and i was amazed at how fluent it is, no jams, no retarded weaving.

you get ticketed for tailing, and you actually get PULLED OVER FOR DRIVING IN THE LEFT LANE OTHER THAN FOR PASSING!!!

great idea, honestly!

And the craziest thing, is that traffic violations are in proportion to your income. So rich businessmen who get away with murder here in the states, pay THOUSANDS in fines for being dickheads.....

phantom240
10-14-2006, 10:47 PM
problem is, with the way the us is arranged (cities, suburbs, etc) private transportation is NECESSITY, rather than a priveledge.

now, if they restricted HIGHWAYS to people with 'highway liscences' something could happen.

but unfortunately, busses don't go everywhere, so the blind, deaf, retarded, and soccer moms too, will have to share the road.

i watched some documentary on the autobahn, and i was amazed at how fluent it is, no jams, no retarded weaving.

you get ticketed for tailing, and you actually get PULLED OVER FOR DRIVING IN THE LEFT LANE OTHER THAN FOR PASSING!!!

great idea, honestly!

And the craziest thing, is that traffic violations are in proportion to your income. So rich businessmen who get away with murder here in the states, pay THOUSANDS in fines for being dickheads.....
Exactly. Im not talking regular city streets im talking highway travel. Highway licenses would be an awesome idea. Also, i like that you put soccer moms with blind, deaf, and retarded ppl! lol.

Eugenics
10-15-2006, 04:02 AM
Yeah, 240 owners are very proud of their treasures. Hell, im swapping a 95 motor into my 91 and adding mods and such while its all down and easy to work on, and its costing me over 1400 including the price of the motor after all the mounts, header, fluids and other crap associated... and dont regret a bit of it.

And woody wtf are you talking about? Quoting ftw

im working out what it will cost to have my friend send me a s15 back home. yay! he's grown attached to the car he's building for me and i told him if he would send me a S15 at cost for him then we would be even.


hell yeaaaaaaa, r32 pwnsss ALL, can u import to usa or its illegal??

its in the US, and its not too shabby.






http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m239/SQBubble/2.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m239/SQBubble/1.jpg




also, i did 130mph with a honda accord '92 with an imported used STOCK japenese accord '92 engine (50 000km) and was the most fun car to drive, was quick, handled like a champ, all stock I just swapped the engine to a "new" used one.

also, pontiacs gran am and all these are pretty heavy and arent effiecient at all....

i hate heavy cars:crap:

its not that they're heavy. its that the suspension's and chassis are next to worthless.


And your point is? I never said i liked the sr20det. And as with any cars/trends/groups Youre going to have complete idiots who are in it just to look cool, and in cars, we call those ricers. This guy is a prime example of a ricer. He thinks that just because he has a JDM turbo motor and maybe some boltons, that he is god. And i think that he got what was comin to him. Street racing is for ****.

eh, sr20's are alright, but in my opinion they're not worth **** till they're stroked and come up with that... torque stuff.

i still have more love for the KA though.


We need a autobahn in America!

the **** we do. people can't even handle 70mph. let alone ~ mph.

azbass
10-15-2006, 04:06 AM
r32. woot.

Eugenics
10-15-2006, 04:13 AM
the new r32 didn't excite me that much at all.

phantom240
10-15-2006, 09:43 AM
S15 silvias arent on the list of vehicles you can import. I dont even think you can import a fairlady Z z32 (300zx twin turbo) even though it is identical to our US counterpart except for safety and emissions. If im not mistaken you can only import r32 and r33 skylines at the moment.

bigbangtheory
10-15-2006, 10:50 AM
5-speed... yes it does....with room to spare... I bought it from a third party, to be honest, I assume it is stock based on what I have been told by mechanics (not necissarily good ones until recently) and people whom assume to know about Honda's.



you are right, bold, and stupid, of me not to clarify my thoughts on the pontiac vs. honda race I had just participated in the previous weekend... but not incorrect, (I always get called out on this and its my fault for responding while at work--if it gets busy I have to lay aside my thoughts and come back when the calls slow down)
I do believe, if you read my earlier reply, I clarified that we were talking about the sunbird to grand prix series...my sis owned a sunbird, my boyfriend a grand am, and myself a Grand prix and a Bonneville (hardest car to get in and out of) for four short months until I found I got pregnant and bought a van. (a TransSport Van for da family--but that doesnt count in this thread)..IMO..they were all ****. Period....


Well, In my experience you will get your wish...go ahead and push that pontiac...it's gotta get to the repairshop somehow. BTW...has your odometer started spinning rapidly yet, adding on miles? What about the ignition not accepting the factory key? Oh, and the fuel injectors fartin out ALL AT ONCE ....Wait, it will...my grand prix AND a TransSport van I had BOTH started all their **** after about 48K to 50K or so.
I will NEVER OWN another Pontiac... didnt like them then, dont like em now. Is that okay I dont like a vehicle you do? Or is everyone wrong because they dont see the world the way you do?

same as the ol chevy vs. ford debate.... the debate doesnt **** me off, and no, I dont have the fastest car (I cant validate $10K for a top of the line fuel injection/Nitrous system.) But it is mine and I own the title, and I dont have to constantly take it to the garage like I did with every pontiac I ever owned. (why so many?--I listened to my stupid *** husband that thought Pontiacs were good cars--women dont know anything right?) Honda (and Toyota) engines are very well known for being able to turn out 200K miles and still run. All-be-it they have their own mechanical failures too--(Honda = timing chains) but I am not replacing an engine every 150K (if your lucky with that pontiac) miles.

again...this is all just IMO... and some from personal experience. Don't deny what you cant prove. COme take a ride and I will show you how quickly I can get my car to 130+ anytime babe. And I dont have to have a peenis to do it! LOL....


Well I really dont get into to many car debates just because 99.9% of the time it is just someone's opinion, which you have pretty much said. I have read a few of your reply's in here and have to say that yep you must be drinking the alcohol for sure. I dont doubt your Prelude can get to 130 mph. Hell my ST Focus gets over that with room to spare. I also can get 0-60 in under 7 seconds. Is that mind boggling? No it isnt, hence the reason I dont brag about my car and blah, blah, blah. I think your in a mans world here in the caraudio forum and feel like you need to fit in some what so you have to talk **** about how certain cars arent shitWell I used to own a grand am GTP back in the day and I have raced a **** ton of imports and some I won and some I lost, but I did never lose to a prelude. That I know for sure. Now the kid that started this that you responded to about the grand prix's has the GTX, which are very rare and fast. I highly doubt you or aot of cars could take that car. I am not saying your car isnt fast for what it is and is realiable because I like imports as much as domestics, probably a little more to be honest, but it is nothing but your opninion. Now if your talking sunfires, regular grand prixs and cheap domestics compared to your 25 plus(given it was new(er))import, then really you arent proving ****. :rolleyes:

Crzy
10-15-2006, 10:57 AM
i dont hate "ricers" i hate kids who just bolt ebay **** on their civics and think they are ****** now thats a ricer. but the actual tuners out there and their cars are nice. not really my kind of car but none the less they put a lot of time and engineering into the cars instead of just bolting crap on

86yota
10-15-2006, 11:10 AM
I work at a carwash and got the privilige to drive a R32 out of the tunnel, which is only about 20 feet but you can still get the feel of how nice it is. VERY nice car inside and out, wish I could afford one.

phantom240
10-15-2006, 12:22 PM
I got to sit in an R33 one time... she didnt run and was all beat up outside... but i still wanted to **** myself.

Oh yeah, and reneeb, Honda doesnt use timing chains, they use belts. Nissan uses chains. /experience.

Eugenics
10-15-2006, 02:13 PM
S15 silvias arent on the list of vehicles you can import. I dont even think you can import a fairlady Z z32 (300zx twin turbo) even though it is identical to our US counterpart except for safety and emissions. If im not mistaken you can only import r32 and r33 skylines at the moment.

he mentioned something about a postal vehicle or something... if nothing else i will look at a r33... maybe an r32, i dont know why, but i like them better.


I got to sit in an R33 one time... she didnt run and was all beat up outside... but i still wanted to **** myself.

Oh yeah, and reneeb, Honda doesnt use timing chains, they use belts. Nissan uses chains. /experience.

little plastic p.o.s. belts

phantom240
10-15-2006, 05:24 PM
he mentioned something about a postal vehicle or something... if nothing else i will look at a r33... maybe an r32, i dont know why, but i like them better.



little plastic p.o.s. belts

i love my KA in all of its chain-timed glory.... though when those tensioners give out and the front cover gives way to the chain you get this:
MMMM chocolate milk... wait... from my motor?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/phantom240/P7150227.jpg
And heres a tiny piece of the guide... which i found that timing chain > guide
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/phantom240/P7150229.jpg
Which used to reside in here...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/phantom240/P7150228.jpg
Which ended up leaving the top of my motor looking like this... you dont wanna know what the rest of it looked like!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/phantom240/P7150223.jpg



BTW those are old pics. She's black again. Once you go black, you never go back lol.

negativezeroz
10-15-2006, 09:06 PM
he mentioned something about a postal vehicle or something... if nothing else i will look at a r33... maybe an r32, i dont know why, but i like them better.

You can get R32 (GTS and GTR) R33's, and R34's here in the states through MotoRex

and to phantom...Why import the Z32? I had a '95 DE. Why waste all the extra time and money to get a RHD Z32? Just go find a nice TT here in the states and get the '99 fascia.

Alpine4x4
10-15-2006, 09:43 PM
I can garuntee half if not more than half the ricers in every town have no clue what theyre doing. A wing on a FWD car? Lets put more downforce on the rear because those tires are getting power right? Alot of it is bling bling and they can "go fast" cuz they race vans and trucks and theyre lil 4 popper can push theyre light little cars faster than a V8 burb...maybe. i got a 3.0L V6 in my toy pickup, do 110 at 5500rpm's with 4.56 gears (lowered for off-road driving), 35 in first gear at 6k and have made plenty of rice cans **** themselves. Keep your 4 popper:D

99gtxgolfer
10-15-2006, 10:08 PM
R32=== SO SICK.. they are so ******

phantom240
10-16-2006, 12:06 AM
I can garuntee half if not more than half the ricers in every town have no clue what theyre doing. A wing on a FWD car? Lets put more downforce on the rear because those tires are getting power right? Alot of it is bling bling and they can "go fast" cuz they race vans and trucks and theyre lil 4 popper can push theyre light little cars faster than a V8 burb...maybe. i got a 3.0L V6 in my toy pickup, do 110 at 5500rpm's with 4.56 gears (lowered for off-road driving), 35 in first gear at 6k and have made plenty of rice cans **** themselves. Keep your 4 popper:D

I got schooled by a chevy 2500 diesel one time. We werent really racing, he was bein an *** and doesnt like imports so he wanted to make me look dumb. He took off at the light and i was like whatever let em hate... but then as he pulled off in a black moke haze i decided to see what my stock 240 was made of. Not much. Diesel torque ftw.. fat *** in a stock 240 ftl. lol.

smd4life
10-16-2006, 12:14 AM
I got schooled by a chevy 2500 diesel one time. We werent really racing, he was bein an *** and doesnt like imports so he wanted to make me look dumb. He took off at the light and i was like whatever let em hate... but then as he pulled off in a black moke haze i decided to see what my stock 240 was made of. Not much. Diesel torque ftw.. fat *** in a stock 240 ftl. lol.

my papaw has an 800hp dodge truck...it's fast but not for having 800hp...diesel FTL

phantom240
10-16-2006, 12:14 AM
Generally, it has to be at least 15 years old, but you can get newer vehicles as well, although they have much stricter and more costly regulations. You can get R34s and S15s over here, but they're hardly worth the cost and effort unless you REALLY want it.

i would have *** with an s15 varietta if it had an rb26 swapped into it!

A lil too much rice with the doors for me, but you get the picture
http://www.sk-if.co.jp/used_car/img/20060315110236_1.jpg

AJ≤06
10-16-2006, 12:56 AM
The very first step to making your car look like it could be the fastest thing in the world is to add some decals. Try and find a 5-foot wide one depicting the logo of your favourite band or of a cool saying. I know, I know, some of your favourites don't really have a 'logo', but you can probably get a good sign shop to write 'Brittany Spears' in 6 foot letters for you. The best place to place the inaugural logo is right in the middle of your back window or angled across the driver's side door. You can't put this sort of thing on the front windshield. It would look very cool there, but you have to remember that you must see ahead! Another good decal type is racing stripes. These actually do make your car go faster, and they look really good too.

Once you've got the logo in place, cruse down the street with the most foot traffic in your town with your windows rolled down so you can show off your newly stylized car. This lets people know that it there is a new car on the road, and it looks like a million dollar racer too boot. You may get ugly looks from other motorists with obviously inferior cars, but just make your tires squeak a bit when you pull away from the light. Don't hit the guy in front of you though. Simply press your breaks as hard as you can and change lanes to avoid being slowed down by the much less cool cars around you. You can check beside you if you want to be safe, but since your car looks so fast, no one will dare to attempt to pull past you, so you can change lanes in peace.

After that, you will want to put some interior enhancements in. Feel free to pretend you have a nitro kit too. The best thing to do in the interior of a super-fast car is to have a helmet near by, and get some extra seatbelt material and drape it over you every time you drive to make it look like you have a five-point harness. If you really want to make your car look crazy-fast, put the helmet on while waiting at red lights. Less amazing cars and their drivers will melt at that sight!

Next, you should install as many lighting devices you can. Spotlights, headlights, neon, and fog lights all work, and extra credit if they don't turn off ever. This way people will notice you with greater ease, day or night! You have full creative freedom here. Put on headlight covers, paint the corners of your signal lights, and get those all-clear break light covers. This is where you make your car stand out.

The most important performance-enhancing feature is yet to come, though. You need to add spoilers. The bigger they are, the faster your car will look. The hardest part is getting them to match your paint, but most good body shops will put them on and match the color for a good price. At this stage, it is also a good idea to get some low profile tires and a good-looking set of rims.

You are now quite well on the way to appearing to be able to beat Porches and Vipers. All that's left is to lower your car as close to the ground as possible. Don't worry about getting the suspension properly tuned, that costs much too much and the goal here is maximum appearance of speed. There may be a safety hazard if your camber is not properly calibrated by a professional though, so be weary of questionable shops.

Now, some people may say that it is unscrupulous to do all these changes to an otherwise gutless car. Don't listen. Your car must look like the fastest one in town. Just remember these simple key phrases: Yellow = looks fast. Stickers = looks fast. Spoilers = looks fast. Lots of headlights and fog lights=looks fast. Clear break light covers = looks fast. All you have to do is remember those simple key aspects of performance automotive customization!

LMAO!

Prowler573
10-16-2006, 01:00 AM
...You are now quite well on the way to appearing to be able to beat Porches and Vipers. All that's left is to lower your car as close to the ground as possible. Don't worry about getting the suspension properly tuned, that costs much too much and the goal here is maximum appearance of speed. There may be a safety hazard if your camber is not properly calibrated by a professional though, so be weary of questionable shops.
I think even the (as termed by Darkness) Phat Geo could beat a porch!!! :laugh:

bikejunkie223
10-16-2006, 01:02 AM
Oh yeah, and reneeb, Honda doesnt use timing chains, they use belts. Nissan uses chains. /experience.

Mostly correct but virtually all of the new Honda motors now use a timing chain anymore- at least the motors that are 4 cylinders and worth a crap. All the K-series motors (Accord, Civic Si, Element, CRV) use a chain- only the v6's and single cam civic motor still sport a belt, and I'm fairly sure the current civic and the Fit have both gone chain now too, though I'd have to check. Not trying to bust balls or anything, just thought you might like knowing.

Eugenics
10-16-2006, 01:38 AM
i would have *** with an s15 varietta if it had an rb26 swapped into it!

A lil too much rice with the doors for me, but you get the picture
http://www.sk-if.co.jp/used_car/img/20060315110236_1.jpg

ew, no.

negativezeroz
10-16-2006, 11:43 AM
http://sai.cside.tv/chat/car/mysilvia.jpg

phantom240
10-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Mostly correct but virtually all of the new Honda motors now use a timing chain anymore- at least the motors that are 4 cylinders and worth a crap. All the K-series motors (Accord, Civic Si, Element, CRV) use a chain- only the v6's and single cam civic motor still sport a belt, and I'm fairly sure the current civic and the Fit have both gone chain now too, though I'd have to check. Not trying to bust balls or anything, just thought you might like knowing.

orly? i didnt know. Im not much of a new honda guy. I like their old school stuff... back then everything was belts. The world will succumb to the glory of timing chains!

phantom240
10-16-2006, 05:16 PM
http://sai.cside.tv/chat/car/mysilvia.jpg

Gawd i love that color. I want to paint my s13 like that s15