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MrSwiss
09-16-2006, 07:14 PM
well its time to update my old enclosure XD
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/b95b8a103c9f.jpg

picked a spot in my door where i believe 6x9's are housed in this car with the premium audio package. decided to mount some AA6.5 mids.

here is the designated spot taped off
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/e43e28d27c51.jpg

here is the speaker sittin in its soon to be permanent home + some minor tilting for imaging
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/c1dc0a198365.jpg

here is the first layer of glass
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/9aa28fb2f77e.jpg

doing one door at a time so i can learn from the first door. first lesson learned...when fiberglassing to the inside ceiling of an enclosure USE CLEAN CUT PIECES =D

PowerNaudio
09-16-2006, 10:26 PM
looking good.
that cavity looks pretty deep. does it go to the other side of the door? can you roll the window down? just asking lol
looking good so far.
keep the pics coming.

MrSwiss
09-16-2006, 11:16 PM
yes the window was rolled down during the glassing. it does extend to the other side of the door. it is pretty deep cuz i didnt have much room width wise. i think the speaker is gonna sound great in it.

tommorrow im going to build the baffles, glass around it and finish the install. hopefully i can get a flush mount as i had planned.

ultimate157
09-17-2006, 12:38 AM
looks good.

DaGh0st
09-17-2006, 12:41 AM
i really need to learn to glass. Looking good bro.

Is it pretty hard?

southwest713
09-17-2006, 02:16 AM
i really need to learn to glass. Looking good bro.


x2
i wanna make some door pods as well

PowerNaudio
09-17-2006, 02:19 AM
you all probably know about this one site but it has allot of great info and tutorials regarding fiberglass build up. fiberglassforums (http://fiberglassforums.com/index.php)
laters

MrSwiss
09-17-2006, 09:11 AM
i really need to learn to glass. Looking good bro.

Is it pretty hard?

its not hard at all. its just a little messy so be well prepared. i read alot about it b4 i tried it so i pretty new everything that was involved.

those fiberglass forums are awesome check them out they have a bunch of worklogs. you will get alot of ideas on what u need to do.

MrSwiss
09-17-2006, 12:19 PM
here she is all dried and somewhat stripped of tape. ive already marked my outline where i want to cut. since i made it rather thin(because of it being completely enclosed in my door) i was able to cut 90% of it with scissors. the tougher spots i used a saber saw.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/7a334250ca85.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/f405c2de0a7c.jpg

unfortunately i didnt plan it perfect. after holding up the baffle and the pod to the door i realized i didnt leave myself any room to mount it! the pod is about an inch shy of the diameter of the baffle =/

so i threw it back into the door
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/338ec4f8c54a.jpg

...and glassed a "lip" around the opening. it serves as a reference point for when im going to mount it internally and also as a place to mount thw baffle. that part i didnt think through b4.

it shrunk slightly leaving about a 1/4 inch gap at the top of the pod. this made it extremely hard to glass infact i couldnt make the glass stick to the top no matter how hard i tried. so im just going to have a little extra patch work when i glass the baffle.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/465f52ac374d.jpg

here is the driver side. as presumed, i did a MUCH better job this time around. it is fairly clean, not much excess glass, and i covered a larger area. this time i had the help of a paint brush.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/9c4cdd1e5c9d.jpg

now is the wait.

PowerNaudio
09-17-2006, 01:43 PM
those are coming out very nice.
i should of given you a hint, but i figured you knew. but for future refrence.

is always a good idea to have the baffle where the speaker going to seat made before you start glasing away. it lets you know where to mark with a magic marker on the tape where your baffle will be, that way you dont over lap to far, or not enogh.

once you lay the tape down and is marked with the magic marker. mix enogh resin to cover the taped area so you can do one layer of resin alone, mix it a tad bit hot. but not too hot to where it gets hard in the can. once you have covered the area with resin and its starts to dry it will get very taky, sticky. so you can hand lay the first layer of mat on that and it will stick like glue. specialy usefull on the top parts where youre having issues. make sure there are no air bubles and its layed as firm as you can, then you can mix your self another batch of resing and start glassing. then mat in plase like you did with the brush. and then when you pull that mold out it will have the marker line on there for you to cut. to get it ready for the baffle.


laters

ps: if you need any help. let me know.

MrSwiss
09-17-2006, 05:14 PM
yah thats a good tip...that i didnt know X_X

so here is my baffle mounted
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/c19a97c22b38.jpg

speaker in place. had to manipulate it to get clearance for the magnet
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/f7fe214ad1f3.jpg

so far im coming to realize this isnt going to workout with a flush mount as i planned. the only way to achieve that is to cut a larger opening in my door OR make about an 1.5-2 inch baffle. maybe next time i fiberglass i will take more time to measure and plan.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/282c679e85e4.jpg

and here is a cpl of coats of glass on the pod.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/klakalou/9cefb199405f.jpg

forgive me for the subpar camera phone pics =/

James Bang
09-17-2006, 05:23 PM
very nice so far. makes me want to start some FB work too.

also, your camera phone pics looks 3x better than mine.

PowerNaudio
09-17-2006, 06:26 PM
wow that looks super solid. looking good. so far too.
here is a link (http://www.fiberglassforums.com/showthread.php?t=584) that may give you some ideas on how to finish it up a little.

and here is one of two door pods i made. as you can see no staples. just to minimize the sanding stage that is just the first layer of resin.


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/2426000-2426999/2426076_15_full.jpg

again man youre doing a great job.
keep the pics coming. looking forward to seing this one donel
laters

MrSwiss
09-17-2006, 06:31 PM
yah i checked out a cpl of your projects so far. you do great work. ive read thru that worklod several times on fiberglass forums. been reading the forums for the last week b4 finally deciding to go ahead with this project.

thanks for the compliments!

edit: what do u suggest instead of staples? hot glue? thats what i was using at first but it didnt workout as i planned. i didnt get nearly a tight enough pull on the fabric.

Megalomaniac
09-17-2006, 06:48 PM
ooh aahh poly mids FTW. i carpeted my kicks last night.....i need to work on my carpeting,i think i am goin to make new kick panels now that i got the hang of fiberglassin.

PowerNaudio
09-17-2006, 08:21 PM
what do u suggest instead of staples? hot glue? thats what i was using at first but it didnt workout as i planned. i didnt get nearly a tight enough pull on the fabric.

are you talking about the speaker ring staples that you have on there or for the mat it self,

if its for the speaker rings. i rearely ever use any kind of adhesive or staples around the speaker. but it depends on the install.

on one like yours i wouldnt have used any staples or glue around the rings. if you pull the fabric nice and tight on the back mold you can use ca glue ,contact cement or spray adhesive, to hold the fabric on the fiberglass mold nice and tight.

DaGh0st
09-17-2006, 08:24 PM
wow this is comeing along great.

Someday when a get a ride worth doing a Nice install on i will try this.

MrSwiss
09-17-2006, 08:51 PM
are you talking about the speaker ring staples that you have on there or for the mat it self,

if its for the speaker rings. i rearely ever use any kind of adhesive or staples around the speaker. but it depends on the install.

on one like yours i wouldnt have used any staples or glue around the rings. if you pull the fabric nice and tight on the back mold you can use ca glue ,contact cement or spray adhesive, to hold the fabric on the fiberglass mold nice and tight.

the reason why i did that is i wanted the carpet of the door to meet right up to the speaker so all u will see is the speaker. but i dont think its gonna happen.

yah spray adhesive wouldve been perfect, im gonna have to snag some from work. im pretty sure its gonna turn out nothing how i planned hehe

PowerNaudio
09-17-2006, 08:57 PM
lol im sure with enogh sanding it will turn out how you wanted. or you can always start over. but its looking good so far to do that.

MrSwiss
09-18-2006, 06:55 PM
think im gonna trash this project.

im thinking about putting 2 AApolys in each door. and on top of that i drew a blueprint for a flush mount desing that is fool proof hehe.

after it quits raining i can get back outside and come up with a blueprint for 2 polys. if i cant fit 2 in 1 door, i will flush mount 1, then make a kickpod for the other, and probably carpet it to match the interior.

i ran 2 of them off a single channel at half gain on my pa sl4-1000(wired @ 2ohms, amp is rated 125w @ 2ohm) and they sounded awesome. now that i know i have all this extra amp power, i want to take advantage of it.

think i will probably end up leaving the rl-p 15 in the trunk to round out the system. that too, will be custom fitted/fiberglassed. when the time for that comes around i will be hitting the forums for opinions and ideas.

Megalomaniac
09-18-2006, 07:02 PM
if you plan on selling the mids let me know ;)

PowerNaudio
09-18-2006, 07:26 PM
well at least you got a taste of FG and now you can get a better design and build done. i had to trash my first project too.
but oh well. now i got it down lol. and so will you if you keep at it.

so keep us posted on the next project, we at FIBERGLASS FORUMS.com would love to see and help you out on your projects over there.
laters

MrSwiss
09-18-2006, 07:42 PM
if you plan on selling the mids let me know ;)

pfft haha im about to get 2 more :naughty:

yah i will def be at the fiberglass forums. after class tonite i will post up my blueprint and get some feedback =D

PowerNaudio
09-18-2006, 07:44 PM
thats cool, i realy want to see what the new design looks like.
laters

Megalomaniac
09-18-2006, 07:51 PM
pfft haha im about to get 2 more :naughty:

yah i will def be at the fiberglass forums. after class tonite i will post up my blueprint and get some feedback =D

so are you goin to run 2 as dedicated midbass and the other 2 as dedicated midrange? cause i had planned tha also but didnt have $$ to go that way plus i still have to buy an eD NINe 4

MrSwiss
09-18-2006, 09:46 PM
nah im gonna run all 4 around the upper misbass/midrange area. they are really awesome. i had one hooked up on the way to class jus messing with the hu and crossover. it sounds spectacular as low as a 40 hz hpf. i plan to keep it around the 80hz zone when i get my sub woofer reinstalled. not only that the midrange is so pronounced its drowning out my tweets in the dash. after i get them installed and tweek its gonna be friggin awesome. u cant beat this speakers at this price.

as for dedicated midbass and midrange i will probably have to buy some external crossovers to accomplish that. i dunno we will see what happens.

MrSwiss
09-18-2006, 10:35 PM
hah i stand corrected! just the one poly filled my whole car with midbass!

i fit my doorpod into my door just now and leisurely secured the poly into it with some putty. im surprised how good it sounded in that position. it was the driver side aiming at my feet and i could hear and feel it just fine. now im questioning whether i actually need 2 in each door.

as for the pod itself, it isnt the best right now. i didnt mix the last batch properly, and its been over 24 hours and still very moist to the touch in certain places. not just tacky, its moist. and i have 1 airhole. i consider this the prototype enclosure. and it is pretty decent. it fit very well into the spot, just like a glove, and it gave me exactly what i was looking for in terms of speaker performance.

now its on to the real deal =D