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08-23-2006, 04:13 PM
Finally got round to doing the tweeter pods for my Ford Focus properly after the first attempt with filler only.

Removing filler:

Filler removed. Back to mirror casings with laser cut MDF rings supported with matches:

As I didnt have any proper fleece and didnt want to go out and buy some especially as I didnt need a huge amount i looked round the house for something. Ended up using socks as they were nice and stretchy and so easy to get the right shape.

After first layer of resin:

Drivers side casing contains a joystick for moving the electric mirrors. Pulled material down into hole using some cotton through it:


To ensure area around joystick was flat a lid was taped on to hold the cloth against the plastic of the mirror casing.

Sorry about quality of pics, taken on phone.

Going to put more layers or resin on now...
How many do you reckon I will need?


08-23-2006, 04:32 PM
Those look dope. :thumbsup:

08-23-2006, 07:17 PM
in such a small project i would say two layers of fiberglass will do, but once they dry. you should push on the surface with your finger, if it budges add 2 more layers to make it stiffer.
looking good. so far.

08-23-2006, 07:20 PM
Cant wait to see them done! Good work so far.

08-23-2006, 07:32 PM
Looks nice! :)

08-23-2006, 10:07 PM
nice work, keep us updated

08-24-2006, 04:15 PM
Got 3 layers on them now.

Havent been putting glass on, just the resin.
Im thinking one more will do. 4 layers or resin enough???

I sanded them down after the first 2 layers and got them nearly perfectly smooth. Going to sand down again and put another layer on tonight and then hopefully tomorrow I will sand them down completely and they will be flat enough to paint without any filler. We'll see though...


08-24-2006, 04:19 PM
sweet. but blurr!

08-25-2006, 09:13 PM
thats cool. I used to have a focus.
For that tweeter pod just cut real thin strips of fiberglass cloth, dip them in the resin and brush them on the pod just like paper mache. The resin alone doesnt provide strength.
I could show you an easy way to do bolt in glass pods for the grill sections of your doors if you ever want to do them.

08-30-2006, 03:13 PM
Going to sand them down tonight and hopefully get them flat enough for paint.

Will update tomorrow evening with some good quality pics.


09-06-2006, 06:41 PM

Drivers side pod after rough sanding of 4th layer of resin:


Passenger side pod after final 4th coat resin sanding, ready for paint:


Another view:


After final coat of paint. After doing 2 coats I decided the finish wasn’t flat enough and so sanded right back down to the resin and made it flatter. The paint was helpful as it showed the low spots up. The photo below is after 4 coats with a light sand after the 3rd coat:


And with tweeter housing in place. These push fit inside the rings as are tapered and the rings were laser cut to the exact size needed for them to be a push fit, i had four attempts!


And without the flash if its easier to see:


View of the back. Plastic original pod cut out to allow tweeter to protrude through:


And with tweeter housing installed (note small holes to allow filler to grip into pod on first attempts):


Will get more photos up as I progress, not much further to go now.
These will be finished by the end of Monday and installed as I am going away if you are wanting to check back.

Better quality pics this time ;)


Cheers, Leo

09-06-2006, 06:47 PM
DAM! Those came out looking excellent! :thumbsup:

09-06-2006, 06:49 PM
good job, glad to see you put the mirror adjusters back in

09-06-2006, 07:17 PM
That paint looks familiar.. is it called graphite? Thats a lot like duplicolor's wheel paint color graphite, which im doing my tweet pods and many plastic pieces in my interior with. A+++ for you!

09-06-2006, 07:21 PM
No glass, just resin? Am i seeing that right?

09-06-2006, 10:53 PM
Yep you're seeing it right. There's no need for a high strength piece there. It's not somwhere where it will get hit and it doesn't have to support any weight to speak of. It will be just fine without any glass.

09-06-2006, 11:00 PM
Daaaaaayyyyyyyyyyuuuummmmmmmmmm... thats nice. ;)

09-06-2006, 11:22 PM
Very nice work.

09-06-2006, 11:24 PM
800 grit paper?

09-06-2006, 11:31 PM
**** those suckers came out very very nice. i have done tweeter pods before and they are not easy, specially when they look as good as yours(mine sure didnt.)

09-07-2006, 05:18 PM
Thanks for all the comments.

Going to put in another hour or so on the drivers side getting it flat ready for paint and might rub down some of the paint on the passenger side as it has some tiny bubbles in.

good job, glad to see you put the mirror adjusters back in
Well they wouldn’t be much good without!

That paint looks familiar.. is it called graphite?
Nope, its Halfords satin black. If you are from England you will know how expensive and poor quality it is. But I was desperate one weekend and couldn’t wait.

No glass, just resin? Am i seeing that right?

Yep you're seeing it right.

Yeah that is right, they feel plenty strong enough. The fabric I used was quite an open weave so the resin soaked through nicely.

800 grit paper?
Erm, have been using 320, 600 on resin and 1000 for paint.

**** those suckers came out very very nice. i have done tweeter pods before and they are not easy, specially when they look as good as yours(mine sure didnt.)
Cheers, Im looking forward to seeing them installed, but them am going away for 3 months so wont see them! :mad:

More photos up tomorrow, and with my new camera :D:D:D


09-07-2006, 06:30 PM
How did you paint them? with a gun or normal spray paint? I'm guessing a gun because the product is very nicely painted.

09-07-2006, 08:17 PM
How did you paint them? with a gun or normal spray paint? I'm guessing a gun because the product is very nicely painted.

With a spray can/aerosol. The most expensive, worst quality paint you can get - thanks Halfords!


09-10-2006, 06:23 PM
All finished, final worklog:

Showing comparison between original and new pods. I bought some more pods from a scrappers and so the untouched ones are the ones that came with the car:


Few photos of the setup Ive had for the last few weeks:




Passenger side tweeter in pod:


Pod installed in car with tweeter ready to fit in:


Showing clearance on plug/socket for electric mirrors:





View from the drivers seat:


Continued below:


09-10-2006, 06:24 PM
Drivers side comparison between new and old:


Installed - from drivers seat:


Other angles:



Couple of questions:

What do you think to connecting speakers/crossovers together with bullet connectors, like the ones shown:


And do I need to unwrap my crossovers out of the bubble wrap they came in, I left it on to protect them, but I heard that they can get hot???




09-10-2006, 06:48 PM
Nice work. :)

09-10-2006, 07:15 PM
wowzers. U get an A+

09-10-2006, 07:16 PM
nice!! but how come you didnt use filler primer before u painted??

09-10-2006, 07:47 PM
nice!! but how come you didnt use filler primer before u painted??

Didnt need to, think they came of flat enough.

09-10-2006, 07:48 PM
i would remove the bubblewrap dude

09-10-2006, 08:00 PM
i would remove the plastic to be safe. also, sick work. and RHD cars ftw.

09-11-2006, 11:42 AM
Nice work , how is the imaging with the tweets aimed at you like that ? :)

09-11-2006, 04:53 PM
Really nice work. Which resin did you use?

09-11-2006, 05:04 PM
Im starting on my tweets and kick today cuz my comps just now hit my doorstep. Thanks LostSoul!

09-11-2006, 07:03 PM
that sh*t looks mean! nice work.

09-17-2006, 01:53 PM
i would remove the plastic to be safe.

Might do this when I amp them. I just wanted to keep them scratch free for when I mount them on show.

how is the imaging with the tweets aimed at you like that ?

Not really sure what you mean...
The sound is a huge amount better though. I think this is because the tweets are actually pointing straight at me rather than some where near. The backs of the tweeters are also "sealed" off better than they were before, although im not sure how much of a difference this makes...

Which resin did you use?

Pretty sure it was Davids resin, although Im not at home so I cant check.

Thanks LostSoul!

Ehh??? Me no "LostSoul"

Thanks for all the great comments guys.

Any recommendations on the bullet connectors???


09-17-2006, 02:28 PM
bullets? theyre a bit hard to work with, i like male/female quick disconnects... the spade kind like the input terminals on normal speakers.

09-17-2006, 02:41 PM
Nice work.. does your fofo look like this?!

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/4377/fofochopfg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

10-07-2006, 01:21 PM
does your fofo look like this?!

Fortunately not, MK2s ****! Even if it is a ST.


10-08-2006, 11:06 PM
VERY nice! cant say it much better than that.... simply awesome

10-08-2006, 11:29 PM
Wow, amazing looking pods. Funny it all started with a pair of socks :laugh:

10-08-2006, 11:49 PM
very impressive, i may do this once i find the sweet spot to aim them at

10-09-2006, 08:44 AM
Thanks again for the comments people.
I love it when people ask: "How'ed you make 'em?"
"Well I started with a pair of socks..."

i may do this once I find the sweet spot to aim them at
I just aimed both of them directly at me, the driver. Somebody asked about imaging but I dont know what they meant. Is it not necessarily correct to just aim them at your ears?

Again comments would be great as Im confused about this.


10-22-2006, 09:27 AM
Help with imaging please?


10-22-2006, 11:20 PM
Excellent job - better than mine, for sure, although mine are in the A-pillars not the mirror backing.

About imaging - I'm sure other pro's can describe this better, but I'll try to be brief.

The biggest struggle as a car audio SQ enthusiast is creating the illusion of a larger "sound stage" than you have to work with. The "sound stage" is where your brain imagines the sounds are actually coming from - now in my home system (Fultron Premiers from the late 70s), I have a physical 8 ft separation between my tweeters , which are about 12 ft from me, pointed directly at my head, with sound absorbtion above, below, and behind me - this makes for a fantastic soundstage, as voices seem to be coming from anywhere in between the speakers. In a car, your physical distance from the speakers is much MUCH less, and the speakers are much closer together. To create the illusion of a larger soundstage, you have to play tricks on your brain, hence "imaging".

When you look at car speaker tests, they do a frequency repsonse test for "on axis" and "off axis" response. On axis is usually described as between 0* and 30* (* = degrees) either direction from "pointed directly at you". Most car audio speakers (tweeters especially) are designed to not only sound great on axis, but off axis as well, as many factory locations are not ideal.

Now, frequency response and overall imaging impression are two different entities - flat on-axis frequency response does not guarantee good imaging, and generally makes voices sound like they're coming from your tweeters, about 2 ft from you. Very accurate, but sounds too "small".

Big sound comes from either running a time delay on your closest speakers, so the sound "seems" like its coming from the distance of your furthers speaker, or actually bouncing the sound off something like a windshield (like my CDTs do). This has the opportunity to loose accuracy, but sounds much more "acoustic"/"real"/better.

Basically, when someone asks "how's the imaging", they want to know... a] how accurate does it sound, but more importantly... b] where does it sound like the voices are coming from/how "big" is the sound.

Talk to your local SQ champs, and they'll go on for days about how to get better imaging/a bigger soundstage in your car, as well as probably turning my little description here into swiss cheese :)

10-23-2006, 05:43 AM
very good pods start a shop ;)

12-26-2006, 08:27 PM

Thanks for the little lecture, very helpful and sorry for the late reply, Ive been away for 3 months.

All I can say is that I think they sound very good, and when turned up loud the sound seems to “immerse” you.

Ive never sat in a SQ car and so have never heard a "proper" install, so mine would be probably considered terrible to the big boys, but then its all about the money.
Mine aren’t amped (yet) and so dont go that loud before the HU starts distorting (or at least thats what im told - and I cant believe its the speakers).

Basically, I think they sound good, and a massive amount different from when they were blu-tac'ed on. I assume this is because of the "protection" of the back of the tweeter.

Also in your signature you mention tweets in mid of dash… Do you have any photos of these, as well as the ones in you’re a pillars if possible?

Thanks for all the support again guys, and glad to be back on this awesome site.


12-26-2006, 08:41 PM
Good job.
I would have did some things slightly different, but you can't argue with the results.

And for the first couple of pics, I was thinking your pics were 180* out till I realized you were from England.....lol. RHD.

02-16-2007, 03:55 PM
And for the first couple of pics, I was thinking your pics were 180* out till I realized you were from England.....lol. RHD.

Ha, you had me worried for a minute there...

02-16-2007, 06:05 PM
your tweeter pods = WOW!!! that is all

p.s. you want to build me some for an 06 mustang and ship them to the US for a nominal fee???

lol thanks

02-16-2007, 06:43 PM
or interested in making some for another focus???

02-24-2007, 04:03 PM
or interested in making some for another focus???

Yeah I am. I am trying to get a few people with foci interested. I currently only know of you and possibly another guy who is another member of the focus owners club Im a member of.

Do you know of anybody else, im interested in doing sort of 10 pairs and not 2-3.

p.s. you want to build me some for an 06 mustang and ship them to the US for a nominal fee???

I can do you a set for your mustang, but you will have to ship your car over here for approx 3 years while I make them for it, as I need to know all sizes etc...


02-25-2007, 07:50 PM
I am also part of a focus group, www.focus-revolution.com

What were you thinking of charging? I know some of those guys would be interested.....

02-25-2007, 07:59 PM
nice work

02-25-2007, 08:32 PM
Real nice work.

02-27-2007, 10:25 AM
Very nice and professional work. How's the staging?

01-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Very nice write up and pics! I found this very helpful for me being a Focus owner also.