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benvaldi88
08-19-2006, 02:21 AM
So i'm getting a motorcycle but it has to be a 1999 or older cuz otherwise the insurance is insane for someone my age (18). I'm trying to decide between a Honda CBR 600 F4, Suzuki GSX-R 600 or a Yamaha YZF 600 R... any inputs??

boomzabit
08-19-2006, 02:23 AM
Cant go wrong with any of those bikes.

Id personally take the Honda just my $0.02

mattmcss
08-19-2006, 02:25 AM
no Kawi action? I'd go the gixxer 6

benvaldi88
08-19-2006, 02:27 AM
no Kawi action? I'd go the gixxer 6



i like how the 03' 04's look but not the older models, they're still good bikes though

AphexTwin
08-19-2006, 02:36 AM
Suzuki GSX-R 600

SkwurlyFab
08-19-2006, 02:37 AM
the gixxer 6's fly

steveyblack
08-19-2006, 02:57 AM
hayabusa???

benvaldi88
08-19-2006, 03:06 AM
hayabusa???



maybe after i've been riding for 5 or 6 years but those things have some crazy power and i wanna live to at least finish a couple years of college :crazy:

benvaldi88
08-19-2006, 03:07 AM
Go with the Honda if you want something reliable ...



yeah thats what i've heard about those, very reliable the older models they get they still look new too, so i'm leaning towards a CBR

heyman421
08-19-2006, 03:32 AM
my local suzuki dealer told me 90's suzuki's were a little rough around the edges

i'd go with a honda, or find a kawasaki, they've had their bikes down to a science for years and years

regal8r
08-19-2006, 05:47 AM
honda CBR600 FTW...

bigbangtheory
08-19-2006, 09:07 AM
Any of those bikes would be ok in my mind, but I am biased on the Honda, as I had a Honda Hurricane 1100 and loved it, just scared the **** out of me.

hoss
08-19-2006, 09:39 AM
hayabusa???

you, are a moron...

the F4 is an absolutly GREAT bike to start on, and honestly, i think that is going to be your best option. the Yamaha is good, i havent ridden one of those personally, but i am a fan of them. the honda though is a nice, forgiving bike that gives you the performance you want, without going overboard on it.

the GSXR is a bit more aggressive of a bike though. the new ones are less aggressive, but the older ones were really more of a race bred bike. i wouldnt suggest starting on one, but to each his own.

again, i would strongly suggest the honda

HotCarl
08-19-2006, 09:43 AM
http://www.roadsideattractions.ca/gianttricycle.JPG

2000LaDe
08-19-2006, 09:44 AM
i have an 03 gsxr. cant go wrong with a suzuki and my insurance is only 50 dollars a month full coverage with state farm and im 21 yrs old. so look into multiple companys for insurance.

GSX-R 600 FTW!!!

John3000
08-19-2006, 09:48 AM
hayabusa???


If you want to die in 2-3 months, sure. Seriously though, get something decent for 1st time riders, when you get some experience in, sell it and move up to more power/newer. I dont ride but thats what my bikers pals tell me.

As far as a hayabusa, they look nice and are fast as hell, but I see to many of them now a days.

heyman421
08-19-2006, 11:18 AM
x10000 busas are awesome looking bikes, but that's a lot of ****ing motorcycle

my next door neighbor back in kent put his friend's down on some gravel, and just a few body panels, a valve cover, and one muffler that got scratched cost $2900 to replace.

Unless your bank account is bottomless, those bikes are for highway cruising only.

That new 750 that they brought out a few years ago on the smaller 600 chassis, tho...... that'd be ***.

iagrdshaka
08-19-2006, 11:26 AM
Suzuki GSX-R 600

;)

benvaldi88
08-19-2006, 01:06 PM
http://www.roadsideattractions.ca/gianttricycle.JPG



hahaha fine. i'll go with your pick.

benvaldi88
08-19-2006, 01:11 PM
i have an 03 gsxr. cant go wrong with a suzuki and my insurance is only 50 dollars a month full coverage with state farm and im 21 yrs old. so look into multiple companys for insurance.

GSX-R 600 FTW!!!


how long have you been riding? and what was it when you were 18? Thanks for the input!!! :veryhapp:

HotCarl
08-19-2006, 01:19 PM
just man up and hop on one of these your first ride out.

http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Motorcycle%20pictures/Badass12RickeyGadsonTurboMuzzyLogo.jpg

John3000
08-19-2006, 02:44 PM
just man up and hop on one of these your first ride out.

http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Motorcycle%20pictures/Badass12RickeyGadsonTurboMuzzyLogo.jpg

Fatality.......:thumbupw:

mtdewelf
08-19-2006, 04:05 PM
just man up and hop on one of these your first ride out.

http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/Motorcycle%20pictures/Badass12RickeyGadsonTurboMuzzyLogo.jpg

black people can't ride bikes, that's a photoshop.

j3bus2k3
08-19-2006, 04:38 PM
I'm 19. I've ridden since I was 16. My first bike was a GSX500 that was a POS that I rebuilt and then rode it till it died. While on it I took several Motorcycle safety foundation courses including basic/new rider and advanced rider. I then moved on to an '99 GSXR600 to get my skill level up and rid that for a full year. While on that I attended a few track days to get comfortable at speed and learn to take corners more aggresivly. I sold that last summer, took out a loan, and bought my current bike, an MV Agusta F4 SPR.

IMO, It would be reckless and irresponsible for any new rider (read as: never ridden a motorcycle on the road) to buy a newer sportbike. Buy an older GSX500, something that still has speed and the handling traits your going to experience on a real sportbike while learning to shift, brake, etc. And attend the safety courses, I consider myself to be an experienced rider and I'm still going to track days and riding schools. By a helmet and some leathers and lastly, Dont be another skid mark on the road...ride safe. Thank you and good night :p:

benvaldi88
08-19-2006, 04:42 PM
I'm 19. I've ridden since I was 16. My first bike was a GSX500 that was a POS that I rebuilt and then rode it till it died. While on it I took several Motorcycle safety foundation courses including basic/new rider and advanced rider. I then moved on to an '99 GSXR600 to get my skill level up and rid that for a full year. While on that I attended a few track days to get comfortable at speed and learn to take corners more aggresivly. I sold that last summer, took out a loan, and bought my current bike, an MV Agusta F4 SPR.

IMO, It would be reckless and irresponsible for any new rider (read as: never ridden a motorcycle on the road) to buy a newer sportbike. Buy an older GSX500, something that still has speed and the handling traits your going to experience on a real sportbike while learning to shift, brake, etc. And attend the safety courses, I consider myself to be an experienced rider and I'm still going to track days and riding schools. By a helmet and some leathers and lastly, Dont be another skid mark on the road...ride safe. Thank you and good night :p:




thanks for the advice, my grandpa told me to take the safety classes and what not so i was gonna do that anyways. At first i was going to get like a 2003, but then i thought about it and since i've never ridden a sport bike, i figured it'd be smarter to get an older bike... i'm lookin at CBR 600's right now, just cuz they're still good bikes and they're the style i like

j3bus2k3
08-19-2006, 04:45 PM
thanks for the advice, my grandpa told me to take the safety classes and what not so i was gonna do that anyways. At first i was going to get like a 2003, but then i thought about it and since i've never ridden a sport bike, i figured it'd be smarter to get an older bike... i'm lookin at CBR 600's right now, just cuz they're still good bikes and they're the style i like

Please dont. Its sad really taht you can get a brand spankin' new CBR600RR for $17/month. Of course thats with supperb credit but the fact remains...But definitly listen to your grandfather and get an older bike.

Heresy
08-19-2006, 05:46 PM
I'm 19. I've ridden since I was 16. My first bike was a GSX500 that was a POS that I rebuilt and then rode it till it died. While on it I took several Motorcycle safety foundation courses including basic/new rider and advanced rider. I then moved on to an '99 GSXR600 to get my skill level up and rid that for a full year. While on that I attended a few track days to get comfortable at speed and learn to take corners more aggresivly. I sold that last summer, took out a loan, and bought my current bike, an MV Agusta F4 SPR.

IMO, It would be reckless and irresponsible for any new rider (read as: never ridden a motorcycle on the road) to buy a newer sportbike. Buy an older GSX500, something that still has speed and the handling traits your going to experience on a real sportbike while learning to shift, brake, etc. And attend the safety courses, I consider myself to be an experienced rider and I'm still going to track days and riding schools. By a helmet and some leathers and lastly, Dont be another skid mark on the road...ride safe. Thank you and good night :p:

Good advice. The Motorcycle Safety Foundation puts on a local safety course here that only takes a few days, but everyone I have heard take it says they learned something. This includes people who have been riding for decades. It costs anywhere from $55 for an experienced rider to $250 for an absolute beginner then you go to the DMV and get your endorsement for about $10 after you finsh the course. It's money well spent.

I only wish I could buy a bike now, but I am waiting to finish college first. I am following j3bus2k3's advice and starting with a smaller engine then working my way up. In Europe I actually think you have to graduate to larger engine sizes by riding the smaller ones for a period of 6 months to a year.

mannyb18b
08-19-2006, 08:15 PM
I was 17 just turned 18 an I dont pay much at all for insurance on my 06 Gixxer 600. I have a bad driving record too. I have a stunt bike, but that isnt insured.

benvaldi88
08-20-2006, 01:40 AM
1998 CBR 600 is what im gna get

akizzle
08-20-2006, 02:36 AM
Cbr:)

NMBR1SPT
08-20-2006, 03:11 AM
buy my CBR1000rr......oh wait you said 600...oh wait I have one of those I'm selling too 04 cbr600rr. lol, look in the F/S section, what kind of riden you plannin on doin? I'm 36 and I've been riden since I was 5, matter of fact my 9 yr old has been riding since he was 3 (his first bike was a jr50) the gixxer 6 is fast and nimble the cbr is reliable and the yamaha...well.......lets leave it at that, yamaha is good for like the first 2-3 yrs then they seem to fall apart, trust me, I have 3 uncles, all which are motorcycle mech.s. let me know if I can help.
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not to hijack your thread bro, just so that way I don't have to keep postin where the link is
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174974

j3bus2k3
08-20-2006, 12:48 PM
buy my CBR1000rr......oh wait you said 600...oh wait I have one of those I'm selling too 04 cbr600rr. lol, look in the F/S section, what kind of riden you plannin on doin? I'm 36 and I've been riden since I was 5, matter of fact my 9 yr old has been riding since he was 3 (his first bike was a jr50) the gixxer 6 is fast and nimble the cbr is reliable and the yamaha...well.......lets leave it at that, yamaha is good for like the first 2-3 yrs then they seem to fall apart, trust me, I have 3 uncles, all which are motorcycle mech.s. let me know if I can help.

Hey, when are we going riddin? :yumyum:

NhustlaR
08-20-2006, 12:56 PM
I have a 00 yzf 600r and i have yet to have a problem, does wheelies(at slower speeds) and endo's like a pro, and is pretty quick. w. a couple mods it will keep up w. r6's and the gsxr 6. Stock my bike took a 00 gsx750(katana). I put a full exhaust, jetting, new sprocket and chain, and a new air filter it keeps up with newer r6's. Any of those bikes will take a lot of cars.

Oh, and i beat a 1971 450hp duster in the quarter :)

mrray13
08-20-2006, 12:57 PM
another insurance trick is the time that it is insured. depending upon where you live, you don't ahve to insure it for the full year. me? 9 months.



j3 offered up some really good advice. and the honda you have picked out is a nice bike.


but i don't roll that way anymore, lol. i spent my time in crotchrockets, but my scoot is where it's at for me. you guys are looking at two cylinders too many for me..lol...




good luck and keep the rubber side down!




wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e :peace:

NhustlaR
08-20-2006, 12:57 PM
how much for the 1000rr?

NhustlaR
08-20-2006, 12:59 PM
another insurance trick is the time that it is insured. depending upon where you live, you don't ahve to insure it for the full year. me? 9 months.



j3 offered up some really good advice. and the honda you have picked out is a nice bike.


but i don't roll that way anymore, lol. i spent my time in crotchrockets, but my scoot is where it's at for me. you guys are looking at two cylinders too many for me..lol...




good luck and keep the rubber side down!




wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e :peace:

What insurance are you going through? im w. progressive and they wont let me. they said i have to do a full year

mrray13
08-20-2006, 01:04 PM
state farm. but i have my house, both of my trucks and my harley through them, so i get a discount for that as well.


progressive? high risk ,eh? lol....but you need to do some shopping. there are more then jsut state farm out there too and even a few motorcycle specific companies.



wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeee :peace:

2000LaDe
08-20-2006, 01:04 PM
progressive quoted me over 250 a month full coverage for my bike. i was like WTF thats more than my escalade thats ****ing wrong. so i went shopping and well i found state farm that gives me it for 50 a month as long as i insure my escalade through them too. so it all worked out for me.

just make sure u shop around cause some places dont like to insure bikes so they skyrocket the price or not even insure them at all.

helotaxi
08-20-2006, 03:35 PM
3 bikes all insured through Geico, though I'm considering shopping around again. Geico was half the price of Progressive for me on my sport-ish bike and a third the price for my Harley.

An older sport bike is def the way to start if you only care about sport bikes. Depending on driving history, riding history and credit, it could still cost you a mint to insure one. The point to the older bike is you should be able o pay cash for the bike removing the need to carry full coverage insurance or relativly low deductible which run up you insurance premium. Also since it's relatively old, you won't get sick to you stomach when you forget to put down the kickstand and drop it on the ground (never done it myself but watched my cousin do it twice in a week) or lay it down in a low speed maneuver (been there one that). Also the older bikes are way down in power compared to the newer repli-racers. That is actually a very good thing for an inexperienced rider as you are less likely to get yourself into trouble (physically, not legally) but it still has more than enough power that I've never heard anyone who were talking from anything other than ego say that they didn't have enough power for the street. IMO the older bikes are much better street bikes than the newer models IMO, anyway. The power delivery is pretty much the same through the midrange as the current bikes without the huge peak in the upper RPM range that tends be more of a pain around town than useful. At the same time they still have the same brakes and very similar weight and handling.

Regardless, you made a smart decision to take the MSF courses. Most states will accept a certificate of completion from he local MSF school in lieu of the testing at the DMV to add your motorcycle endorsement to your license and you will get a discount on your insurance as well. Don't let your learning stop once you have finished the course either. Get out and practice. Not just the low speed stuff that the MSF stresses in the riding portion of the course but more importantly practice applying the low speed drills to your normal speed riding. Find an empty road or a big empty parking lot and practice swerving, max effort braking, etc... Work on these skils until they are reflex. If you have to think about what to do when the woman in her SUV talking on her cell phone pulls out in front of you, you are doing the hinking way to late. You shouldn't be thinking at that point, you don't have time you need to simply act, and then once you are safe, find a spot to pull over and change your shorts. The point is your skill on your bike is going to directly affect your safety on the bike. As far as I'm concerned, the only safety device on a motorcycle is the head on the rider's shoulders.

benvaldi88
08-20-2006, 09:17 PM
buy my CBR1000rr......oh wait you said 600...oh wait I have one of those I'm selling too 04 cbr600rr. lol, look in the F/S section, what kind of riden you plannin on doin? I'm 36 and I've been riden since I was 5, matter of fact my 9 yr old has been riding since he was 3 (his first bike was a jr50) the gixxer 6 is fast and nimble the cbr is reliable and the yamaha...well.......lets leave it at that, yamaha is good for like the first 2-3 yrs then they seem to fall apart, trust me, I have 3 uncles, all which are motorcycle mech.s. let me know if I can help.



how much for the 04 CBR?

benvaldi88
08-20-2006, 09:18 PM
buy my CBR1000rr......oh wait you said 600...oh wait I have one of those I'm selling too 04 cbr600rr. lol, look in the F/S section, what kind of riden you plannin on doin? I'm 36 and I've been riden since I was 5, matter of fact my 9 yr old has been riding since he was 3 (his first bike was a jr50) the gixxer 6 is fast and nimble the cbr is reliable and the yamaha...well.......lets leave it at that, yamaha is good for like the first 2-3 yrs then they seem to fall apart, trust me, I have 3 uncles, all which are motorcycle mech.s. let me know if I can help.




I'm planning on riding the bike to school and work and what not, then putting it away for the winter and getting it back out for the summer again.. and of course to have it around to ride the occasional chica around once in a while :naughty:

Megalomaniac
08-20-2006, 10:51 PM
r6

mannyb18b
08-20-2006, 11:46 PM
600 is not enough power,start with a 750 at least then in a year or so step your game up to 1000cc, its much easier driving a bike with more power than not enough IMO

Your an idiot.


Anyways, I dropped a tooth upfront an it lifts up all day at around 8k.

Megalomaniac
08-20-2006, 11:50 PM
Your an idiot.


Anyways, I dropped a tooth upfront an it lifts up all day at around 8k.

wow thanks for your insight, like i said it was an opinion,please can you back up you comment so i can be a little more educated for my future idiotic posts?:eek:

mannyb18b
08-21-2006, 03:17 AM
ya. your an ABSOLUTE idiot for suggesting something like that, and if you really were serious, I have absolutely no respect for you. idiot

Megalomaniac
08-21-2006, 09:45 AM
you still haven't backed up your post of calling me an idiot. You have an 06 gsx600 maybe that's why you are attacking me. I'm not saying 600s **** I am saying I would much rather prefer a 750 or a 1000 as I am sure you would to. I like to plan ahead I would get a 750 instead of getting a 600 then wanting to sell it after a couple of months too much hasstle when you can do it the 1st time. so please explain exactly why I am an idiot for suggesting a higher cc bike, I will gladly edit my post if your answer is pursuasive to me.

mannyb18b
08-21-2006, 05:05 PM
What bikes have you owned to ride and how many years have you been riding?

Megalomaniac
08-21-2006, 05:14 PM
i dont own a bike,i have only rode other peoples bikes(i have rode yamaha fzr 600genesis, an r6 and a suzuki gsx750) so you probally have a lot more expirence riding. but that still gives you no reason to call me an idiot without backing up your post(which you still havent done) i gave my reasons why,and you havent yet. so please will you explain to me why i am an idiot for posting that,i want to know for future refereance. thanks

mannyb18b
08-21-2006, 06:08 PM
A human life is nothing to play with, I have a feeling even though you rode your friends bikes before, you don't know what these bikes are capable of. I have had to many friends an such killed, to let someone who doesn't know anything about bikes suggest to a beginner to go big first, so later he wont want something bigger.
That my friend, is idiotic. And it disgusts me.
Hop on a newer 600, punch it....you probably wont be on the seat too long.
Death is not a joke. Learn about what your suggesting first, don't go in the dark an tell someone to do something that could EASILY cost his LIFE.

heyman421
08-21-2006, 06:34 PM
the 750 should be NOBODY's first bike....
that engine used to be sold on the bigger frame that the 1100 and 1300 are on
the 05 and 06 750 on the 600 chassis is a deathwish for an unexperienced rider

if i was going to suggest a NEW 1st bike, it'd be the sv650 or the sv650s.

it's cheap, it's light, and it's torquey as hell. It wont go 200mph, but zipping around town, it's **** near as fast as a 4-cylinder, and a hell of a lot easier for a beginner to control, and lighter to boot.

**** good bikes for the $$

PatFitz9
08-21-2006, 06:36 PM
Megalomaniac, i mean this in a nice way, you are an idiot. you don't even ride, so why suggest that? is your reasoning "you will grow out of a 600, they are too slow" so a 600 with a high 10 second 1/4 mile vs a liter bike with a low 10 second 1/4 mile is too slow? or, even an 11.5 1/4 mile. do you know how fast that is? FAST. a vette has a 1/4 mile in the 12s...

and how exactly is it easier to ride a bike with more power for a beginner? it's easier to turn the throttle a little bit and get a whole lot of unexpected power. it's also easier to misjudge the extra weight and dump the bike in a corner. it's easier to pop the wheel up and not know how to land, or worse, pop it up too high and loop it. i can keep going here...

anyways, you want some good advice? get a used ninja 500, or suzuki GS 500, learn to ride properly (MSF is free in IL), and sell the bike for around what you paid for it. then the next year, buy a nice SS (supersport) bike, be it a 600, 750, or even a 1k and blow past megalomaniac retardedly trying to operate a bike that has way to much power for him to handle. trust me, the learning curve is in your favor if you start small. to get to the same riding level by starting on a big bike, it will probably take you 2-3 times as long (that is if you still are able, and want to ride)

so there, how about you back up your idiotic comments Mega?

Megalomaniac
08-21-2006, 06:39 PM
A human life is nothing to play with, I have a feeling even though you rode your friends bikes before, you don't know what these bikes are capable of. I have had to many friends an such killed, to let someone who doesn't know anything about bikes suggest to a beginner to go big first, so later he wont want something bigger.
That my friend, is idiotic. And it disgusts me.
Hop on a newer 600, punch it....you probably wont be on the seat too long.
Death is not a joke. Learn about what your suggesting first, don't go in the dark an tell someone to do something that could EASILY cost his LIFE.

see i didnt know that. if you had told me that before you called me an idiot i might have edited my post. but to call me an idiot and not tell me why makes you an idiot. and i am only 17 bout to turn 18, i seek knoledge not judment of you. but i am sorry for your loss. hope i havent lost your respect

kngadrok
08-21-2006, 06:43 PM
Megalomaniac




see i didnt know that.

We know;)

Megalomaniac
08-21-2006, 06:46 PM
wow 88posts and you post the 89th to make fun of me. and how am i supose to know if he has lost a friend?

kngadrok
08-21-2006, 06:48 PM
My bad, I got two posts confused:blush:

mannyb18b
08-21-2006, 07:38 PM
It shouldn't take losing a friend or family member to realize something, but unfortunately in the world of bikes, it happens alot more and more.
It truly is something that no one should experience, and it affects more than just the rider.
My MC club rode out to Oakland last week, for a Memorial Ride. It wasn't a fellow member who was killed though, it was his girlfriend who was on the back of his bike, who was an awesome girl. He is a very good, very experience rider, and he lost it on a twisty. He survived with a broken collar bone an road rash. He has to live with her death for the rest of his life.

IrTehL33T@DBeez
08-21-2006, 10:21 PM
man you guys are flaming him hard for suggesting a 750. while i understand where you all are coming from, it Really depends on the rider. some people are naturally skilled, some pick up riding very easily. also keep in mind how many kids rode dirt bikes for years or have been around motorcycles for a long time before riding themselves.

me personally, i had virtually no option of going with a 600 or 750 and most of the literbikes are pretty much the same size. i guess i'm pretty much too big for a crotch rocket but i ended up on a TL1000R and did just fine, about my only other choices were the busa, cbr 1100xx, zzr1200, zx12r, etc. never been on anything before, i took the msf rider course and i was one of the best in the class. the main thing is i knew better than to hop on and rip it, i started slow and just rode around town, getting used to the riding position and starting to lean a bit. i slowly bumped up the pace and started using more throttle as i felt confident that i could. by the time i had the bike for a couple weeks and i had gone faster and leaned more just a little bit more each time, i was pretty much able to keep up with any of my friends when they're ripping straight or knee draggin a curve. if you're mature enough to stay away from the throttle when you start out, you're fine, just pick a bike you're comfortable on. sometimes you have to swallow you're pride, the first time i swung my leg over something, i was in a large parking lot, going in a straight line... yea, i felt like a retard, but if i was on the street when i did that, i think it woulda been very likely i woulda either gone down or gotten hit.

do what you want man, the newer 600's arent slow, you just need to be in the power range which even i noticed when i switched bikes with a couple buddies... for example, an 03 R6 will pick up in first gear with me on it, it just takes til about 10.5-11k rpms and i'm a 350lb guy, so it does take power to do that.

helotaxi
08-22-2006, 12:46 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why anyone "needs" more than 100 WHP on a vehicle that weighs less than 600 lbs with rider...

I'm waiting to hear an explanation of why anyone "needs" the latest race bike with lights to be cool when they never take it to the track and would never get anything near the most out of it if they did...

I'm waiting to hear why riding the same thing as everyone else makes you unique...

Speaking of something different, anyone ridden the new Daytona 675? Thinking about trading my Speed Four in on one.

klepto
08-22-2006, 12:49 AM
I have a 2002 CBR 954rr. Im 19. Ive wrecked twice. Good times. Hondas are the ****.

mannyb18b
08-22-2006, 05:18 AM
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why anyone "needs" more than 100 WHP on a vehicle that weighs less than 600 lbs with rider...

I'm waiting to hear an explanation of why anyone "needs" the latest race bike with lights to be cool when they never take it to the track and would never get anything near the most out of it if they did...

I'm waiting to hear why riding the same thing as everyone else makes you unique...

Speaking of something different, anyone ridden the new Daytona 675? Thinking about trading my Speed Four in on one.

Mine is 480 with rider, and pushing high 130's. And teh Daytona 675's are sum nice bikes, there like a pencil.

i cantread your name @dbeez.....but you have something most new riders dont.

helotaxi
08-22-2006, 11:22 AM
man you guys are flaming him hard for suggesting a 750. while i understand where you all are coming from, it Really depends on the rider. some people are naturally skilled, some pick up riding very easily. also keep in mind how many kids rode dirt bikes for years or have been around motorcycles for a long time before riding themselves.There really isn't much of a comparision between dirt bikes and sport bikes. Also, it doesn't matter how much natural ability the rider has to start off with, unless he's got a solid head on his shoulders and realizes that he's new and aptitude or not he has a lot to learn aout safely operating a motorcycle on the street. There is no point in complicating the learning process even more by throwing a high-strung, over powered, unforgiving beast into the mix.

IMO, it's the ones with a bit of natural skill that are most likely to kill themselves. They get overconfident in their abilities in a big hurry and think that they can handle the baddest thing out there and proceed o become one with the gaurdrail on the outside of a tight turn that they came into way too fast.


the main thing is i knew better than to hop on and rip it, i started slow and just rode around town...f you're mature enough to stay away from the throttle when you start out, you're fineYou seem to have that while the vast majority of the new young riders that I've seen don't.
sometimes you have to swallow you're prideThe best phrase I've heard saying about the same thing is "Put your ego in your pocket." Rossi and Mladin didn't start out on GP bikes. They took years to get to that point. Your typical indestructible hothead kid doesn't get that and sadly probably never will. If they're lucky, they'll live long enough to grow out of their blind stupidity, but a lot of them don't. To many don't realize that the rider makes the bike, not the other way around. Until a person is highly skilled I would wager that they would go faster on an older bike than on one of the newer ones. Until they could get every last bit out of the "slower" bike they would gain nothing by going up in power and would actually slow down because they would be losing time correcting the mistakes caused by the extra power and it's peaky delivery. Only the most skilled riders out there are limited by the machine that they are on. If you think you are one of those, MotoGP and Superbike teams are always hiring.

kngadrok
08-22-2006, 01:24 PM
There is NO comparison to dirt and street.
I got my first dirtbike at 10 yrs old. Had one every year until i turned 19, at which point I bought a GSXR1100 (big mistake). The only thing that riding a dirtbike did for me was boost my ego to a point where I thought I was too good before I ever even rode a streetbike. I've been very lucky and I've had four wrecks (two bad ones). When I got the streetbike my skills were very good, but my ego was out of control. The transition from dirt to street cannot be compared as they are nothing alike in neither technique nor outside variables. Ive just bought acrf450r, and even transitioning back to dirt from street has been a BIG adjustment. I wont even go into body positioning, throttle control, braking........Vastly different.
My best friends little brother got out of the army, bought 636 and within three months we were at his funeral. It wouldnt have mattered what size bike he was on, as some idiot ran a red light and broadsided him, he never saw it coming.
Point being, it's risky enough riding a bike as it is, why compound the problem with a machine, that for all intents and purposes should only be on the track.
Whatever though, just be smart, dont get more bike than you can handle, dont be too embarrassed to take the MSF course,and if you must "Show off"(& I'm GUILTY) find a vacant parking lot at least.
Ive had eight bikes in all, and I've still got a lot to learn, and I know that most of the bikes I ride have way more power than I could ever use or need.

kngadrok
08-22-2006, 01:36 PM
BTW: My new CRF450 is way, way too much bike for me, and for the last two months I've been seriously thinking about traded down to the 250.

PatFitz9
08-22-2006, 01:47 PM
don't forget that 90% of riders in accidents are self-taught... you'll learn that in the MSF class, which you should take. and as a bonus you can take the license test with them on their bikes

benvaldi88
08-24-2006, 03:13 AM
narrowed by search down to a 1999 CBR 600 i found in northern illinois and a 1997 CBR 600 in Michigan...

mannyb18b
08-24-2006, 03:16 AM
97

benvaldi88
08-24-2006, 03:19 AM
yeah i kinda like it and its $3750 for a bike that already has a D&D slip on and only 6500 miles... no scratches or anything

kngadrok
08-24-2006, 07:55 AM
x2 97

benvaldi88
08-25-2006, 01:08 AM
woah just kiddin, just bought a 2001 CBR 600 F4i i'll have pictures when i give the guy money and pick it up!!!!

heyman421
08-25-2006, 01:19 AM
oh noooooooo, not a 2001!

yikezilla

mannyb18b
08-25-2006, 01:24 AM
be slow....

benvaldi88
08-25-2006, 01:53 PM
oh noooooooo, not a 2001!

yikezilla



Wait why is the 2001 bad?

benvaldi88
09-09-2006, 02:41 PM
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