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rocky 59
07-31-2006, 09:26 PM
okay anybody know of any full range like 4-7'' speakers that can be in and out of water and then back in the sun and be okay for at least a couple of years?

when i say in water i mean in and out of the water all day and sometimes totalty submerged.

thanks for your help.

Prowler573
07-31-2006, 09:28 PM
I don't know that any speaker you'd want to use is capable of being completely submerged with no adverse effects. Even marine-use designed drivers aren't supposed to be completely underwater...

rocky 59
07-31-2006, 09:29 PM
hmmm **** it lol. what if just the cone and surround were exposed to it not the basket or anything in that.

Ignatowski
07-31-2006, 09:30 PM
sure,Aquaphonics
Made in Atlantis

Prowler573
07-31-2006, 09:30 PM
Get some speaker designed for a marine application.
What is the project here??

zthumper
07-31-2006, 09:30 PM
WHat in the world would you need these for?

Railrocker
07-31-2006, 09:31 PM
Dont know if this is what you mean but its the closest I found. Ill post more if I find it:

http://www.pinnaclespeakers.com/outdoor.html

rocky 59
07-31-2006, 09:31 PM
putting a ipod centric wave runner system in. or trying to atleast

rocky 59
07-31-2006, 09:31 PM
sure,Aquaphonics
Made in Atlantis
:D :laugh:

Beat_Dominator
07-31-2006, 09:32 PM
Any rubber surround, poly coned speaker that's VERY well sealed into a very well sealed enclosure could last well in and out of water for a long time.

turn it up
07-31-2006, 09:33 PM
Where are these speakers going? Like swiming pool or boat? I saw some bose speaker that had a demo inside a fish tank once, cant remember the model.

rocky 59
07-31-2006, 09:34 PM
Any rubber surround, poly coned speaker that's VERY well sealed into a very well sealed enclosure could last well in and out of water for a long time.
thats what im figuring. i was gonna completely seal off everything but the cone and surround inside and in a fiberglass enclosure. now to find some amps that can stand a little water damage

rocky 59
07-31-2006, 09:35 PM
i will have a build up soon to follow but as of right now just finding componenets

Railrocker
07-31-2006, 09:35 PM
The speakers I posted in that link above would be kinda bulky but they would work.

Beat_Dominator
07-31-2006, 09:37 PM
thats what im figuring. i was gonna completely seal off everything but the cone and surround inside and in a fiberglass enclosure. now to find some amps that can stand a little water damage

What you need there is an amp that needs little to no cooling. Then all you do is completely drown the circuit board in silicon.

Actually, if you took apart an amp, coverd the board in silicon...... then used individual heat sinks on all of the FET's you'd be in pretty good shape.

noob with an RS
07-31-2006, 10:00 PM
youre installing a sound system onto a wave runner aka "jet ski"???

Loud3
07-31-2006, 10:02 PM
sure,Aquaphonics
Made in Atlantis



I have a set of those strapped to my submarine. Pretty good SQ... I can hear every note on the other side of the pool!

noob with an RS
07-31-2006, 10:27 PM
let me know when u find out. cuz im going to build an underwater city submerged in a giant bio-dome that sits in the pacific ocean and extends over a 100 mile radius. then i shall build another bio-dome in the atlantic ocean when the pacific ocean starts bringing in currency. its going to be populated with all walks of life and will be the new place to be free in, not america. i will be the head honcho and we will live in a communist government. we'll have those antlantis speakers placed every quarter-mile or so, so when i want someone to swim to my office the whole city will hear me roar. that is all. for now. thank you. bye.

rocky 59
07-31-2006, 10:41 PM
nice ******** remarks. but again il try to stay on topic. beat i see what your saying but what about taking off the heat sink and sealing the amp board like you would a box and then sealing the cover with silicon on the outside edges?

Eugenics
07-31-2006, 10:45 PM
bose had someout door speakers that could be submerged. i remember this because when i was at the outlet they were playing in a filled fishtank

Beat_Dominator
07-31-2006, 10:53 PM
nice ******** remarks. but again il try to stay on topic. beat i see what your saying but what about taking off the heat sink and sealing the amp board like you would a box and then sealing the cover with silicon on the outside edges?

The problem is going to be keeping the amps components cool, smothering them in silicon will make it water resistant but will remove any chance of cooling.

prochobo
07-31-2006, 10:58 PM
Find a place under the seat or something to hide the amp and seal that area off.

wesl56
07-31-2006, 10:59 PM
parts express has these speakers that are actually made to play music underwater... dont know if you'd want them or not cause they were like $500

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-869

and what waverunner u got? i have a 97 gp1200 :D

helotaxi
07-31-2006, 10:59 PM
The components themselves aren't what is prone to water damage. Its mostly the leads on the components and the traces on the PC board itself that are vulnerable to corrosion from water exposure. The Memphis marine series amps have the board and the heatsink coated in appliance epoxy to make them water resistant. They should work well but they are kinda big.

helotaxi
07-31-2006, 11:00 PM
parts express has these speakers that are actually made to play music underwater... dont know if you'd want them or not cause they were like $500 but ill try to find the link
Those are underwater transducers and they only work underwater.

rocky 59
07-31-2006, 11:18 PM
im putting this system in my 06 vx140 4 stroke yamaha.


helotexi- i have been looking at the memphis amps and the clarion amps.

and if everything under the cone is what i have to worry about then im not really seeing as how that will be sealed off


thanks for your help so far guys