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Tbusiness06
07-31-2006, 06:29 PM
which honda/acura car comes with a stock b18c5 engine? would that be the best choice performance wise for a del sol 93?

i was thinking about getting one off the net but i decided screw it im gonna go and yank one outta a totaled car and have it tuned and stuff.

smd4life
07-31-2006, 06:31 PM
integra type R, for the money id get an si motor(b16)

Tbusiness06
07-31-2006, 06:33 PM
yeah but the b18c5 has 210 hp and redlines at 9000 and the b16 in the si is only 170hp

SAG3
07-31-2006, 06:33 PM
Itr

smd4life
07-31-2006, 06:36 PM
but there alot cheaper...and easier to find...

rick22
07-31-2006, 07:00 PM
b18 or h22a only way to go unless you turbo the b16

negativezeroz
07-31-2006, 07:07 PM
There's a 95 Civic here with an H22A and its slower than balls. But on the other hand there is an 89 Accord w a H23A and its running low 12's.

supa_c
07-31-2006, 07:09 PM
V8 swap.
The Del Sol trunk is big enough for a northstar V8

rick22
07-31-2006, 07:20 PM
There's a 95 Civic here with an H22A and its slower than balls. But on the other hand there is an 89 Accord w a H23A and its running low 12's.

civic with an h22a puts it automaticly in the low 13's and an h23 is a slow *** motor but does awesomely well turboed so thats prob whats in the accord.

supa_c
07-31-2006, 07:22 PM
my accord= slow even with a manny tranny
No V Teetak FTL

j3bus2k3
07-31-2006, 07:24 PM
I'll take my Inline 5-cyl against any integra type-r...In fact I have and won numerous times. Its getting a centrifigal supercharger here soon. Its going to be the ONLY Supercharged Acura 5 cylinder.

supa_c
07-31-2006, 07:25 PM
psshhh
vigors are gay

j3bus2k3
07-31-2006, 07:26 PM
psshhh
vigors are gay

:eyebrow: what ev, lol.

negativezeroz
07-31-2006, 08:03 PM
civic with an h22a puts it automaticly in the low 13's and an h23 is a slow *** motor but does awesomely well turboed so thats prob whats in the accord.
Having a Civic w/ an H22A does NOT put it in the low 13's. This one is running around the mid 14s. Honestly.

Yes, the H23A is turbo'd.

K20 FTW

noob with an RS
07-31-2006, 08:07 PM
I'll take my Inline 5-cyl against any integra type-r...In fact I have and won numerous times. Its getting a centrifigal supercharger here soon. Its going to be the ONLY Supercharged Acura 5 cylinder.
you must be racing kids that don't know how to race for ****?

noob with an RS
07-31-2006, 08:07 PM
civic with an h22a puts it automaticly in the low 13's and an h23 is a slow *** motor but does awesomely well turboed so thats prob whats in the accord.
civic with h22 will understeer.

noob with an RS
07-31-2006, 08:08 PM
http://honda-tech.com

j3bus2k3
07-31-2006, 08:09 PM
you must be racing kids that don't know how to race for ****?

The integra type-r I raced most frequentyl was I guy I worked with. Acutually he races SCCA quite often and does pretty well. The 5cyl just doesnt get the respect it deserves. But I'm tryin to make sure it will :up2somet:

rick22
07-31-2006, 08:24 PM
understeer has nothing to do with drag racing and yes it will put it in the 13's we just did a swap into a 95 civic. and im refering to the jdm not the h22a4 which is the american version which is 190hp.

supa_c
07-31-2006, 08:43 PM
civic with h22 will understeer.
The engine wont make it understeer....moron
Its the power and crappy handling

noob with an RS
07-31-2006, 08:53 PM
The engine wont make it understeer....moron
Its the power and crappy handling
no, its because the engine is a heavy piece of **** and isnt as efficient as a b16 would be when considering weight to power ratio... u moron.

first, the most heaviest thing in car move a few inch in front(compare to b engine), in a FF, it means alot.(bad handling, its not just the heavy weight from the motor, its also because of the position, some ppl said just use a CF hood to reduce the weight and u will be ok, its not going to work)

second, due to the small engine bay of civic, the engine is not sit right, the center of garvity is higher than b-block.

third, due to the engine is not belong to civic/integra chassis, the tranny is not align right to the wheel, the axles is not sit right, with that kind of torque, u will have lot of issue about the axles.

if your car is daily driven and u want to have some fun in road track, then stay away(edited) h22.(however, in 1/4, its hella fast though)
... yay let's jump on the h22 bandwagon!! look at the specs on paper so pretty! :rolleyes:

Loud3
07-31-2006, 09:00 PM
*****.
That's why. Plain and simple.

rick22
07-31-2006, 09:28 PM
Wow the b16 is a piece of **** thats why anyone who wants any kinda performance from a civic opts for a b18 or h22a swap. unless of course they go forced induction. I do agree that the b18 is a better motor all around than the h22 but for the money its just better. you can get a jdm h22 shipped to your door for 1600 where as a b18 is like 4500 or something around there.
Also yeah noobs definently right bout understeer being a problem because of such a heavy motor but with a good suspension you can fix that and also in drag racing steering is not an issue.

stealthcl
07-31-2006, 10:00 PM
Kseries FTW

negativezeroz
07-31-2006, 10:01 PM
Kseries FTWI have one :naughty:

Tbusiness06
08-01-2006, 12:54 AM
im not worried about the price i know a honda importer that can get me the engine/motor package at cost(wholesale) price streight from japan for about $1200 .

210hp b18c5 has better handling than the h22 so im thinkin the b18 would be a better choice.

heyman421
08-01-2006, 11:00 AM
honestly, you learn to drive with the heavier engine

people always overplay handling dilemmas with heavier engine swaps

i had an 87 gti with a vr6 in it, and it didn't handle that great, but strut tower braces, a cage, and coilovers did he trick, at autox'ing pulling your foot off the gas still made it oversteer, it was nasty

i wouldn't worry about front end weight too much if you can afford to increase the rigidity of the chassis and some good suspension

you need a cage anyways if you're gonna run real events, or autox anyways

just my $.02

rick22
08-01-2006, 11:22 AM
If money isnt an option then go with the b18 for sure. less weight and does much much better with mods.

IrTehL33T@DBeez
08-01-2006, 09:07 PM
until i noticed you dont care about price... i woulda said a decent option would be the b18c1 (gsr motor) as opposed to the c5 because its cheaper and you can make up the difference with some internals that match your needs more specifically. but i guess if you just want a motor all together and done the way it is, knock yourself out get a itr motor. i'd much rather have a k-series than a b-series however.

rick22
08-01-2006, 09:09 PM
yeah but the k series wont be a direct swap

supa_c
08-01-2006, 09:10 PM
Everything is in the opposite spot.