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btnhfan
07-11-2006, 03:07 AM
I say him because Im pretty sure he has it.


I want to have a record player setup with the rest of my audio system. What do I need in order for this to be done?

I heard a setup a few days ago and am now in love with Vinyl. Everything seemed more "alive."

JimJ
07-11-2006, 04:02 AM
You rang, snookums? :D

How much are you willing to spend? That's going to determine...well, a lot ;)

Also, do you currently have any gear with a phono preamp? That'll get you going and save you money to start out with, if you get into it more (read: obsessed) you can upgrade to a seperate phono preamp at a later point.

btnhfan
07-11-2006, 12:08 PM
No gear with a phono preamp.


A few hundred bucks on the player.

LeofromtheH
07-11-2006, 12:10 PM
i would think the needle would bounce around in thecar.

JimJ
07-11-2006, 01:03 PM
Har har...:p:

If a "few hundred bucks" goes up to $299, the choice is a no-brainer...

http://www.needledoctor.com/s.nl/it.A/id.3358/.f?sc=2&category=46

Project Debut III. Basically a Music Hall MMF-2.1 except with a cartridge that's actually worth listening to. Hell of a first 'table, it should last you a while.

If $299 is too expensive, go to flea markets, Craiglist, Ebay, yard sales...Good names include Rega, Thorens, Acoustic Research, SME, Linn, etc. I'd stay away from tables with an automatic tonearm return - just something else to break and cause problems. Also, stay away from cheaper direct-drive 'tables. A good direct drive 'table needs to be pretty beefy, and that's not likely to be found for $100.

You're going to need a seperate phono preamp, which isn't that expensive - used, you can find one for $50-$100. Radio Shack used to sell a decent one for $40. You need to match the preamp to the cartridge you get - stick with "MM" ("moving magnet") cartridges for now, unless you buy a used table with who knows what on it.

Hope this helps...

Beat_Dominator
07-11-2006, 01:04 PM
You need a phono pre, and a player. I'd really suggest you find something REAL cheap for starters to get your feet wet. Then you can go crazy some day and buy the Caliburn Continuum table for $90,000 :crazy:

joetama
07-11-2006, 02:17 PM
Rega players are pretty nice for the money. Not sure what some of them go for but I have played with them in a local audio shop I visit regularly. When I finish college I plan on starting my record collection....

JimJ
07-11-2006, 02:32 PM
I thought about going the Rega route with a P2, but the battlecruiser-esque SL-1200MK2 was too tempting to pass up ;) 30lbs. of turntable...bouf hanz

There's a shop relatively close to here selling a hot-rodded Planar 3 that I want to hear sometime. No doubt the Rega tonearms are some of the best in the world, even if the rest of the 'table is dainty ;)

btnhfan
07-11-2006, 11:39 PM
Hows this preamp?

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-ZXyBA2uOzzs/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=50500&I=121BT26



And for the player Id guess Id like to spend around $200 for right now.

JimJ
07-11-2006, 11:43 PM
That'll get the job done...as for the player, I'll keep a look out :)

btnhfan
07-12-2006, 01:57 AM
Okay what do you think of these pics.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rega-Planar-2-Turntable-33-1-3_W0QQitemZ270005772807QQihZ017QQcategoryZ3283QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/THORENS-TD166-MKII-Turntable-MINT_W0QQitemZ320006337035QQihZ011QQcategoryZ3283Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


http://cgi.ebay.com/Thorens-TD-145-mk-II-with-manual-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ330006418212QQihZ014QQcategoryZ32 83QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Beat_Dominator
07-12-2006, 02:04 AM
All of those would sound really nice as long as the Cartridge was in good shape.

thylantyr
07-12-2006, 02:33 AM
I heard a setup a few days ago and am now in love with Vinyl. Everything seemed more "alive."

I remember switching from vinyl to CD in 1983 {maybe 1984} and Everything seemed more "alive."

.. lol ...

Beat_Dominator
07-12-2006, 02:35 AM
:p: They both have their strong suits.

btnhfan
07-12-2006, 02:43 AM
I heard a setup a few days ago and am now in love with Vinyl. Everything seemed more "alive."

I remember switching from vinyl to CD in 1983 {maybe 1984} and Everything seemed more "alive."

.. lol ...
Ha.

It just had a different sound to it. I liked it a lot.





I guess alive was probably the wrong word to use, but it has a different sound. Warmer maybe? Im not sure how to describe it.

joetama
07-12-2006, 03:40 AM
I heard a setup a few days ago and am now in love with Vinyl. Everything seemed more "alive."

I remember switching from vinyl to CD in 1983 {maybe 1984} and Everything seemed more "alive."

.. lol ...
Do you have to be a total jerk off about everything?

Seriously Mr. 49 cent line array problems dilemma man. I know what it is; you have to take the wind out of everyone else's sails because it takes attention away from you and your retarded little mods and projects. OMG OMG someone is getting something new that I don’t have, I better go nock it and say something else is better. Then I will create a thread about how I can’t order tweeters from some no name company in a no name location. Bo who who who. Get a life.....

It's a good thing you switch to CD's too, cause they are SOOO much better especially the original ones from 84 i bet you have them and play them EVERYDAY because of the AWESOME sound quality..... In 84 what was there 1 digital console from some original company that was prolly bought by one of Digico's original companies. So everything was done analog to a A to D converter which was "state of the art" CRAP for it's day. Key to what I'm saying, be a **** on your other forums not on ours......

Beat_Dominator
07-12-2006, 02:00 PM
:ohsnap:

btnhfan
07-13-2006, 03:50 AM
Anyway its all subjective.



Are there any other good choices for preamps that are around 100?

JimJ
07-13-2006, 12:06 PM
http://www.audiogon.com

NAD, Creek, and others make ones in that price range.

That site could also have excellent deals on turntables :D

joebangaa
07-22-2006, 03:50 AM
technics ftw