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crazy4ozs
06-22-2006, 08:23 PM
aight guys, so this is my first solo fiberglass job, ive watched a few people do quite complex work as well as partake in a few fiberglassing adventures myself, but this is by far the most challenging project i have included myself in ever. it will be a fully glassed trunk, so when u pop it, all u see is painted glass and equipment, im not going into detial, but i will say this, it will incouperate 2 AA Avas and an Orion 2500D...make sure u check back often to see the progress of it...here are a few teaser pics

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0832.jpg

support board

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0839.jpg

amp rack

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0836.jpg

logo layout...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0838.jpg

supports for logo...

even tho this is a very complicated set up...i think everything is going very smoothly..let me hear ur input...:cool:

azbass
06-22-2006, 08:34 PM
audiobahn :(

azbass
06-22-2006, 08:34 PM
but good start.

THUNDERBIRD
06-22-2006, 08:44 PM
nice start but didnt u just have the killer box made like 5 months ago?

crazy4ozs
06-22-2006, 08:58 PM
audiobahn :(
old sticker...

kicker/Orion now...



nice start but didnt u just have the killer box made like 5 months ago?

and yes, i did, but now it is time for a change, go big or go home...rite?

bjfish11
06-22-2006, 10:14 PM
**subscribed**
Good luck man, cant wait to see the progress.
Now, get to work.

crazy4ozs
06-23-2006, 12:45 AM
UPDATE!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0843.jpg

supports for emblem done and mounted...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0844.jpg

AphexTwin
06-23-2006, 12:58 AM
looks like a huge project GL and post some pics when ur done

crazy4ozs
06-23-2006, 01:00 AM
it is...will take several months of work...

crazy4ozs
06-24-2006, 02:16 AM
UPDATE...

so i got the side pieces cut today (total pain in teh ***) those sides will be the bottoms of my sub boxes...they will be apprx 2 cubes sealed...identical boxes..check it out so far...(excuse the bricks, they are weighing down teh edges so they can dry)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0845.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0846.jpg

the slits on each side are for the vertical pieces to clear the amp rack...

Chevyaudio
06-24-2006, 02:20 AM
GL man, seems like its gonna be a sick install.

tiger777
06-24-2006, 02:28 AM
looks good. plan on doing something kinda like this late this year or early next.

one question, why not go ahead and glass the wheel well since it doesn't look like you will be able to get to the spare anyways?

crazy4ozs
06-24-2006, 02:31 AM
becasue my 4 channel is under there ;) and there is no point because i dont need the air space

tiger777
06-24-2006, 02:34 AM
ah


good answer. I was just wondering.

crazy4ozs
06-25-2006, 09:46 AM
UPDATE! so like i said, the side peices are the bases for the sub boxes, so that being said, i put up two vertical walls for the sub boxes...check it out

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0852-1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0853-1.jpg

djfrestyl
06-25-2006, 11:15 AM
You're going to be doing the glassing, etc etc IN the trunk? That's gonna be a pain, but good luck, looks great so far.

bjfish11
06-25-2006, 01:25 PM
You're going to be doing the glassing, etc etc IN the trunk? That's gonna be a pain, but good luck, looks great so far.
Yea, it will be a pain, but thats how most of the totally custom jobs are done. Only way to get a good fit, because if you do a full trunk job, there is no way to get the box either in or out once the glassing is done.

djfrestyl
06-25-2006, 01:35 PM
Yea, it will be a pain, but thats how most of the totally custom jobs are done. Only way to get a good fit, because if you do a full trunk job, there is no way to get the box either in or out once the glassing is done.

Lol yea..my back would be forever sore from continuously leaning in there.

crazy4ozs
06-25-2006, 05:17 PM
Yea, it will be a pain, but thats how most of the totally custom jobs are done. Only way to get a good fit, because if you do a full trunk job, there is no way to get the box either in or out once the glassing is done.

ya, fish is rite...thats the only way to make it totally custom :)

hopefully this turns out as good as some of ur stuff fish

bjfish11
06-25-2006, 05:39 PM
ya, fish is rite...thats the only way to make it totally custom :)

hopefully this turns out as good as some of ur stuff fish
Just take your time. And remember, your two best friends for the next few weeks will be.....
























Sandpaper and a Beer.
Good luck.

crazy4ozs
06-25-2006, 06:21 PM
Just take your time. And remember, your two best friends for the next few weeks will be.....
























Sandpaper and a Beer.
Good luck.


lol, thats rite...i went to home depot today and picked up a brand new electric snader...preety freakin sweet if u ask me

crazy4ozs
06-25-2006, 06:22 PM
hey fish, ive been meaning to ask u...how far away from Kansas City are u...i sure would like to take a day trip and come meet u sometime...











just fyi...u were one of the first ones that got me intrested in glass...

bri487
06-25-2006, 06:24 PM
looks like a great start. i like the style.

bjfish11
06-25-2006, 06:48 PM
hey fish, ive been meaning to ask u...how far away from Kansas City are u...i sure would like to take a day trip and come meet u sometime...











just fyi...u were one of the first ones that got me intrested in glass...
KC is 3 hrs away from me. Im near Wichita. I used to go to school up in KC though, Rockhurst University, dont know if you have heard of it or not. But yea, outta get a trip lined up sometime, would be fun.
Also, glad I could get you started. Hopefully I havent steered you in the wrong direction. ;)

crazy4ozs
06-25-2006, 07:05 PM
nah, u couldnt do that, but ya, once i get this project done id love to come up and meet u...and ya, ive herd of rockhurst...my gf has taken classes thru that uni :) sounds like a great school! well just PM me if u wann get a trip set up

bjfish11
06-25-2006, 07:23 PM
Maybe we will work something out when you get it all finished up. Post lots of pics man.

crazy4ozs
06-25-2006, 08:29 PM
SMALL UPDATE!

here is a picture of another pair of vertical walls put up...and my lovely gf modelling them (i no u guys will like that)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0859.jpg

crazy4ozs
06-25-2006, 08:30 PM
sound deadening (aka expanding foam) will be next..will be done later 2nite

crazy4ozs
06-26-2006, 01:31 AM
UPDATE!

so i bought 5 cans of "great stuff" and am using them as a "space filler/sound deadener"...plus i got a new toy...check it out

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0864.jpg

new toy...5 in rounded Ryobi Sander

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0865.jpg

4 cans of used "great stuff"

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0867.jpg

this is how far 20 bux woth of expanding foam gets u...HALF WAY!

azbass
06-26-2006, 01:33 AM
oooOOoo female friend.

looks rad man, ima do the same with that expanding foam

lilmaniac2
06-26-2006, 01:37 AM
gonna take years for all that foam to dry

crazy4ozs
06-26-2006, 01:40 AM
not really...only the top layer is still wet, and it only takes about an hour to fully cure...

djfrestyl
06-26-2006, 09:32 AM
That's a lot of foam. Looks good, keep it up!

crazy4ozs
06-26-2006, 12:51 PM
yes it is...should get rid of the rattle tho :)

so no comments on my new sander...:( i love that thing

Rc 415
06-26-2006, 02:10 PM
Looks like a good sander, is it an orbital sander? I have one that looks just like it. Btw, the project is coming along nicely!

crazy4ozs
06-27-2006, 02:39 AM
ya its an orbital sander :)

btw, UPDATE!

got 95% of the foam work done...drying as we speak...next will be to finish the vert walls and then fleece and begin to glass!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0868.jpg

all teh foam i used

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0870.jpg

MikeyB
06-27-2006, 02:45 AM
Lookin good bro, keep up the good work eh!!! ;)

bjfish11
06-27-2006, 08:26 AM
****, thats a lot of foam. Good work so far.

dkguitarist
06-27-2006, 08:38 AM
keep us updated bro! lookin great man.

crazy4ozs
06-27-2006, 12:59 PM
thanks for the posotives guys..today i will be getting ALOT done...gf, is outa town and no work :) be checking back later 2nite for sum serious updates

crazy4ozs
06-27-2006, 07:53 PM
UPDATE!

the last of the wood got glued togather and is going to be getting put in in less than an hour...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0872.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0873.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0874.jpg

the cut is angleled to not get in the way of the amp rack once the boxes are fleeced...

JimBo930
06-27-2006, 08:13 PM
What exactly does expanding foam do? is it for sound deadening purposes?

crazy4ozs
06-27-2006, 09:00 PM
ya, for sound deadening...it mostly just stops ratteling...here is a good explination of what the differences would be between using raamat/fatmat and expanding foam:

Fatmat and Rammat deaden by "mass loading" (adding weight to something) That weight alone is what you're using to lower the resonance of the panel. eg., a 1 oz piece of sheetmetal may buzz, whereas a 4 oz piece of sheetmetal the same size may not make a sound.

Remove and tap on the sidepanel on your computer case.
Tape a magazine to it
Now tap on it again - Notice the sound difference?

Great Stuff doesn't weigh a whole bunch, but if you can use it to add some pressure to the panel, the resistance will in fact deaden the natural resonance of the panel.

Like the magazine test above; Instead of using a magazine (fatmat), imagine pressing a big sponge to the other side of the panel. The sponge isn't gonna do much by itself, but with that pressure (since the foam expands) it works - even better, in some applications.

kpozr2
06-27-2006, 09:08 PM
wow, thats a ****-ton of foam.

crazy4ozs
06-28-2006, 02:28 AM
UPDATE!


STAGE 1 IS COMPLETE!!!! FINALLY!!!!


stage 1 includes: all teh wood work

i have all the wood work doen except for my rings...so on to the pics

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0876.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0877.jpg

the rest will be fleeced adn glassed

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0879.jpg

this is how much clereance i have on each side to mount a 15" ring...phew!

MikeyB
06-28-2006, 02:40 AM
**** you love them bricks dont ya! ;) 90 degree angles ftw!

crazy4ozs
06-28-2006, 02:49 AM
ya dude, bricks FTW! :) cant fit clamps into those tight spaces

MikeyB
06-28-2006, 02:50 AM
BTW how long is it gonna take you to tear off that Audiobahn sticker? lol

crazy4ozs
06-28-2006, 02:57 AM
haha, ill never take it off, dont u no, it makes my car go 30 horse power faster

MikeyB
06-28-2006, 03:03 AM
haha, ill never take it off, dont u no, it makes my car go 30 horse power faster

****!!!! Im gonna have ta get me some a dem!!

JimBo930
06-28-2006, 08:53 PM
haha the sticker is for security

j3bus2k3
06-28-2006, 10:04 PM
haha, ill never take it off, dont u no, it makes my car go 30 miles per hour faster

edited ;)

crazy4ozs
06-30-2006, 01:19 AM
alrite just so EVERYONE knows...i am going on Vacation and will nto be back intil July 12th...which means no work will eb done until then...

Starky
06-30-2006, 01:42 AM
Boooooooo

BassAddictJ
06-30-2006, 02:51 AM
keep ti going man, good luck

**** looks tight so far...cant wait ot see the end of it

crazy4ozs
06-30-2006, 05:08 PM
SMALL UPDATE! :)

ONE of my two subs came in...a 15" Ascnedent Audio Avalanche...check it out...its a beast!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0881.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0882.jpg

make shift, crate :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0883.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0884.jpg

Thanks B_Campbell!!! looks great!

MikeyB
07-01-2006, 01:38 AM
SMALL UPDATE! :)

ONE of my two subs came in...a 15" Ascnedent Audio Avalanche...check it out...its a beast!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0881.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0882.jpg

make shift, crate :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0883.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0884.jpg

Thanks B_Campbell!!! looks great!


HHHMMMM, kinda looks like what I got! ;)

Fast1one
07-01-2006, 01:48 AM
You are one crazy mofo....




















In a good way, I like it!

snb778
07-01-2006, 01:53 AM
how much does a can of that foam cost?

How do the new Ava's compare to the older ones....it was all about the AVA's and RLP's back a few months ago...nobody gave any reviews on the new ones when they came out.

angryeric116
07-02-2006, 12:53 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0884.jpg



ha ha DDR is teh shiete

Zxcvtypo
07-02-2006, 01:41 PM
haha the sticker is for security

hahaha...nice project man, looks awesome. that foam is great stuff too, i sealed up the whole sidewalls of my jeep with it. how are those ava's?

ExtremeODD
07-02-2006, 02:14 PM
Hmm it doesnt seem that the trunk will close with all that foam there. Or maybe your trunk rails dont go down as far as most. But anyways looks good and cant wait for more updates (mr. im-comming-back-on-extremeodd's-birthday) heh

Nexson
07-03-2006, 01:23 AM
wow, thats crazy good

crazy4ozs
07-13-2006, 12:35 AM
thanks for all teh compliments guys well since i am back id like to introduce u to sum of my friends that decided to drop by while i was away :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0926.jpg

first of all, the twins...these 2 can cause some serious vibrations from time to time...enough for it to start an AVALANCHE now and then...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0928.jpg

next is the girl of the group...a very ****, sleek and petite 7" moniter...she will eb used in ym next glassing project

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0931.jpg

and finally a group shot of the hole happy family all snuggled up nice and close :)

MikeyB
07-13-2006, 01:16 PM
Nice!

ramos
07-13-2006, 01:24 PM
not really...only the top layer is still wet, and it only takes about an hour to fully cure...

Mr. Hicks is right. While the outside ( top layers) dry ,the foam underneath takes quite a bit longer to cure . It's like concrete , the thicker it is the longer it takes to fully cure. But looks nice, can't wait to see some more :)

Curel
07-13-2006, 01:49 PM
Holy crap! looking nice. No going back now.

crazy4ozs
07-17-2006, 03:02 PM
horray for obnoxcious fleece colors...if u guys have been wondering what i have been up to i just made my rings today...and i will hopefully be fleecing either tonight or 2marrow morning...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0933.jpg

crazy4ozs
07-18-2006, 12:27 AM
MINI UPDATE!

ok, so in my planning i forgot one very important thing...the trunk latch swings...

due to the fact that my WHOLE trunk will be convered in fiberglass...there needs to be two small holes so the trunk can swing open and close without trouble...so this is what i spent all day making...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0935.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0938.jpg

clearance problems? I DON TTIHNK SO! :) lol

crazy4ozs
07-18-2006, 11:53 PM
UPDATE!

got the rings made today...:) will mount them tonight and hopefully fleece one side!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0940.jpg

here is ym lovely gf once again "modeling" the subs and rings...

crazy4ozs
07-19-2006, 02:54 AM
alright, got my first ring mounted today...checked everything, clearence is good :)

althought mounting it was a pain in my *** hole...

anyways, onto the pics

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0948.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0947.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0944.jpg

SQBubble
07-19-2006, 03:37 AM
alright, got my first ring mounted today...checked everything, clearence is good :)

althought mounting it was a pain in my *** hole...

anyways, onto the pics

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0948.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0947.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0944.jpg


lookin hella good, cant wait for final result!!

FrEnChYII
07-19-2006, 11:21 PM
Bad ***! I love ur setup. I never thought of that Great Stuff. I am getting some of that **** tomorrow!!!!

I can't wait til I get mine done. Fiberglass is the ****... too bad it's sooo itchy.

crazy4ozs
07-20-2006, 12:42 AM
Latex gloves FTW!

crazy4ozs
07-21-2006, 03:04 AM
ok guys, so i ended up having to re-do th eright side ring...it was not sturdy enough and several of the mounts broke off...oh well, learn from you mistake...here are BOTH rings up and mounted firmly...looks good so far...:)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0955.jpg

djfrestyl
07-21-2006, 09:44 AM
ok guys, so i ended up having to re-do th eright side ring...it was not sturdy enough and several of the mounts broke off...oh well, learn from you mistake...here are BOTH rings up and mounted firmly...looks good so far...:)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0955.jpg

Nice....gets to glassin bish!

MikeyB
07-21-2006, 01:18 PM
Nice....gets to glassin bish!

x2 :D

crazy4ozs
07-21-2006, 08:27 PM
UPDATE!!!

FInally the fleece has come!!!!

i decided to just buck up and do it, this is my first solo fleecing job, and lets just say that i was a LITTLE intimated...eek! but i think it turned out preety good...here are teh steps on how i did it...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0957.jpg

first, i just layed the fleece over the desired area...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0958.jpg

then attempted to do the first area...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0960.jpg

started glueing the back...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0962.jpg

the i re-stretched everything...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0963.jpg

finally i fleeced around the trunk latch piece...this is the only "wrinkle" i got...it will be covered with bondo...and the hole in the center of the ring is so i could reach my hand inside and work from that angle...everything is still tight on the outside though :)

questions? comments? concerns?

Insomniac119
07-21-2006, 08:48 PM
UPDATE!!!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0963.jpg


zOMG there's a hole in your fleece! Watch out! lawl

Looking good so far. I hope it turns out pimpen.

crazy4ozs
07-21-2006, 11:20 PM
i think it will...thats a really bad pic of it...but oh well

azbass
07-21-2006, 11:37 PM
and use better suports for the rings. the fleece will warp with the resin drying, and knock your rings outta shape.

FrEnChYII
07-21-2006, 11:49 PM
If a person were to take the braces (7/16" wooden dowels) and cover them in fiberglass would they be strong enough to support this warping of the fleece?

crazy4ozs
07-22-2006, 03:28 AM
^^hm...good question, im not sure, possibly...prolly not fiberglass, just resin mabye tho...^^



and use better suports for the rings. the fleece will warp with the resin drying, and knock your rings outta shape.

and to answer your question...

*when resin "drys" it creats an exothermic reaction, meaning it releases heat, so seeing as how teh dowl rods are GLUED in place, the heat bein given off from teh resin would act as a releasing agent anyway...

so, in essence, by the time the dowl rods "warp" the resin will have already dried/cured...thus eliminating teh need for them in teh first place...

helotaxi
07-22-2006, 11:49 AM
and use better suports for the rings. the fleece will warp with the resin drying, and knock your rings outta shape.
Which is why you use a thinner material instead of blanket fleece. Sweatshirt material or t-shirt material will hold enough resin to be stiff enough to support subsequent layers of glass, but it won't hold so much resin that it deforms under its own weight.

That said, those are kind chintzy dowels you're using there.

azbass
07-22-2006, 11:58 AM
and to answer your question...

*when resin "drys" it creats an exothermic reaction, meaning it releases heat, so seeing as how teh dowl rods are GLUED in place, the heat bein given off from teh resin would act as a releasing agent anyway...

so, in essence, by the time the dowl rods "warp" the resin will have already dried/cured...thus eliminating teh need for them in teh first place...

that was not a qustion, iv worked with it long enought to know what it does.

azbass
07-22-2006, 12:04 PM
Which is why you use a thinner material instead of blanket fleece. Sweatshirt material or t-shirt material will hold enough resin to be stiff enough to support subsequent layers of glass, but it won't hold so much resin that it deforms under its own weight.

That said, those are kind chintzy dowels you're using there.

also depends on how tight you wrap it, because it can contract while drying. which will lead to the warping.

nYc.kablamO
07-22-2006, 07:01 PM
if youre bringing the fleece all the way to the rubber molding then how are those chambers going to be sealed?
sorry but I just cant see this working out, doesnt seem like a good design to me

mikey060
07-22-2006, 08:07 PM
if youre bringing the fleece all the way to the rubber molding then how are those chambers going to be sealed?
sorry but I just cant see this working out, doesnt seem like a good design to me

indeed. i dont see anywhere to mount that side of the fleece. unless i am just missing something:)

AJē06
07-22-2006, 09:14 PM
Nice...

helotaxi
07-22-2006, 09:36 PM
also depends on how tight you wrap it, because it can contract while drying. which will lead to the warping.
Since it is a thin layer of resin initially it is much less likely to contract because it should cure uniformly. Non uniform curing is what causes warping.

crazy4ozs
07-23-2006, 01:21 AM
if youre bringing the fleece all the way to the rubber molding then how are those chambers going to be sealed?
sorry but I just cant see this working out, doesnt seem like a good design to me

you cant see it in teh picture...but i actually glue teh fleece all teh way down teh side of teh trunk until it is against the "MDF skeleton box"...i left just a little slack incase teh seal is not great so i can finish teh seal with resin...:) u guys jsut dont have faith lol

now on to my...

UPDATE!!

so i fleeced the other side today, took me about half teh time :) looks like im getting better!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0964.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0965.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0968.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0969.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0970.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0973.jpg

enjoy :) next is teh actuall glassing part! pray that i do a good job ;)

kpozr2
07-23-2006, 01:23 AM
glassing the center?? mitsu symbob and etc??? looks nice! good luck with the glass.

Pop da Hatch
07-23-2006, 01:23 AM
I pray nobody rear ends you, because they hate audiobahn.

pimpedout97x
07-23-2006, 01:34 AM
I pray nobody rear ends you, because they hate audiobahn.

x2 kill that sticker!!!

looks really good though. im debating whether or not i wanna attempt to do my panels for my 6.5"s or pay someone..

NewToTheGrounds
07-23-2006, 02:52 AM
man the sticker adds 30 extra ponies to that bad boy, plus a sound security system. Hes got it all down, an who said glassing makes them itchy ? haha they don't hav latex there ? gotta go bare handed wtf?

* looks nice man hope the glassin goes just as good

crazy4ozs
07-23-2006, 03:01 AM
^^DONT PAY SUMONE...^^...its not worth it, the box im doing (if it turns out how i want it) will be worth atleast 1000 bux in labor alone...fiberglass aint cheep :)

and yes, im glassing the center, bux that will be much thinner and will be done after each box is glassed seperatly...and oh, i have a suprise for ya'll ;)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0975.jpg

clean as a whistle

pimpedout97x
07-23-2006, 02:43 PM
yay its gone!

but i think u just lost the 30 hp...

and i dont wanna pay someone, i cant really afford it...i bought some extra door panels to try first. if they turn out good, ill sell my current door panels lol...

cant wait for updated pics on your box though

coolahan
07-23-2006, 04:09 PM
i love it cant wait to see it finished

woc47
07-23-2006, 10:53 PM
looking real good, i had a qusetion about the great stuff foam. I want to put it in the air chambers located throughout the back of my explorer also possible in the back hatch. I've heard good and bad things. Someone even told me that after the foam settles that if a deep note hit i could possibly dent the side of the truck Because it kills the flex capabillities. Seeing how you've dealt with this what have you heard, thanks

Cam
07-24-2006, 02:20 AM
biggest problem I've heard is that if you use the wrong stuff (high expanding foam vs low expanding foam) that it will skin over and harden on the outside, while continuing to expand inside and warp/bend/blow out panels. \

I like what crazy4ozs has done though, that ***** will be solid.

crazy4ozs
07-24-2006, 10:55 AM
looking real good, i had a qusetion about the great stuff foam. I want to put it in the air chambers located throughout the back of my explorer also possible in the back hatch. I've heard good and bad things. Someone even told me that after the foam settles that if a deep note hit i could possibly dent the side of the truck Because it kills the flex capabillities. Seeing how you've dealt with this what have you heard, thanks

like Cam said before me, there are HUGE differences between high expansive and low expansive foam, i used low expansixe...and when u do it, but sure to do it slowly, because if u put too much on at once, your right, it will harden over the top and continue to expand on teh inside, thus warpign ur panels...so put small amounts on, make sure its cured and then throw more on top of it :)

another hint is...whne u first lay it down, the foam will seem to "shrink" almost curreling in on its self...DO NOT take this as an excuse to put more on top...it will re-expand and be fine...just be safe with it :)

ramos
07-24-2006, 01:46 PM
I just use two part pourable urethane foam instead . :)

phantom240
07-24-2006, 03:41 PM
Hey let me ask you something about your fleecing. What did you use to fasten the fleece? Ive tried hot glue before with distastrous results, and superglue is retarded... and i dont wanna staple my fiberglass work and possibly break it... im doing some fiberglass work in my trunk too, but nothing as ****insweet as what youre attempting..

crazy4ozs
07-24-2006, 04:16 PM
i am using a special type of glue, that is "heat resistant" its almost like liquid nail...all u have to do is make sure that whatever ur using can wistand teh heat taht the resin is going to put off...

phantom240
07-24-2006, 04:23 PM
how hot does resin get?!? I know it gets pretty hot cause of the fiberglassing i did yesterday, but does it really get THAT hot? O_O;

crazy4ozs
07-24-2006, 06:13 PM
how hot does resin get?!? I know it gets pretty hot cause of the fiberglassing i did yesterday, but does it really get THAT hot? O_O;

i dont no i degrees...but its ont that the resin gets hot, its the fact that when resin dries, its an exothermic reaction, meaing that it gives off heat...if uve ever felt teh air around teh drying resin ull feel residual heat coming from that, and within a sealed area with no air ventelation i can get VER YHOT...enouhg tto re melt hot glue and make it release

Rawb
07-24-2006, 06:41 PM
ummm good job removing the sticker FTW!!! i say re do the yellow side... The orange side looked much better and your putting so much work into it i think it would be nicer and less work in the end to re do the yellow side... Not saying it looks bad but i am sayin that it looks like you did a much better job on the 2nd side... Never the less better then anything i have done yet to date and i think its comming along well... been watching this thread and will continue to...

crazy4ozs
07-24-2006, 07:06 PM
thanks rawb, i think im going to take your advice and do just that...i will get started tonight :)

crazy4ozs
07-24-2006, 07:07 PM
btw, Hi chris! :)

i see u over there!

phantom240
07-25-2006, 12:49 AM
lol i know exactly how hot resin gets... ever put resin in half a milk jug and once it starts kinning over pick it up? lol it was smoking on top... glad my car was open to the atmosphere...

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 12:52 AM
and yet another reason y im doing this outside in teh shade with a gaping hole in my speaker ring...thus creating more ventilation :)

SO FIBERGLASSING STARTS TOMMAROW! ALL WISH ME LUCK!!

phantom240
07-25-2006, 12:56 AM
may da schwartz be wit yas!

lol.

perrydog
07-25-2006, 01:11 AM
nice install, cant wait to see what it looks like when done

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 10:30 AM
thanks for all the complimants :)

all ym wires and glassing materials should be arriving shortly...i should have atelast one box done today :) sanded and all!

Megalomaniac
07-25-2006, 11:08 AM
how hot does resin get?!? I know it gets pretty hot cause of the fiberglassing i did yesterday, but does it really get THAT hot? O_O;

If you mix enough hardener with the resin,it can ignite!:naughty:

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 07:09 PM
UPDATE!!!!!!!!

so i finally got my glassing stuff in (thanks IONSQL!) and i started right away! heres what i came up with!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0980.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0980.jpg

first off here is my bro helping with with taping off teh left side of the trunk...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0984.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0985.jpg

next i start to resin teh largest and eisast part of the box...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0988.jpg

and finally after about 90 minuites of bending over backwards, literally, lol...its done, check it out, lemme no what u think :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0986.jpg

here are my gloves to showq just how messy this ***** is lol

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0987.jpg

oh and here is a pic to show how strong just a single coat of resin is...not too shabby eh?

Cam
07-25-2006, 07:19 PM
looks good so far man, might wannt avoid droplets on your mitsubishi symbol though, cuz they'll be a pain to sand out later.

Megalomaniac
07-25-2006, 07:24 PM
I see you are using Nitrate Gloves,nice call on that if you are messy otherwise the resin will eat through latex or vynyl

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 07:54 PM
I see you are using Nitrate Gloves,nice call on that if you are messy otherwise the resin will eat through latex or vynyl

lol, i acutally stole a whole box from where i work :p:

Megalomaniac
07-25-2006, 07:56 PM
lol, i acutally stole a whole box from where i work :p:
oh you silly goof ball:crazy:

.::DuD3::.
07-25-2006, 07:59 PM
jeez i bet your resin bill will be insane!

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 08:09 PM
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phantom240
07-25-2006, 08:15 PM
Gloves are for *******. lol.. hell i didnt get much ren at all on my hands. As a matter of fact, only on 3 finger tips when i wasnt watching what i was doing... and that was on my 2nd attempt in my trunk

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 08:19 PM
well fooey on u :p:

AcidicDreams
07-25-2006, 08:20 PM
you might want to black out your license plate... ohh and you're doing the fun part of fg.... just wait for the sanding/bondo part :crazy: :crazy: ....

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 08:25 PM
trust me...i no all about the sanding...thats y i got my new sander...refer to page 2

phantom240
07-25-2006, 08:45 PM
no no no... thats not the fun part, the fun part is getting all the mittle micro pieces of glass dust out of the car... god speed!

NewToTheGrounds
07-25-2006, 09:13 PM
**** work i know and u know its gunna be real nice when its done

phantom240
07-25-2006, 10:52 PM
can i hump it when youre done? PWEEEEAAAAASE?

crazy4ozs
07-25-2006, 11:31 PM
um...no, u can MABYE have slopy seconds...

phantom240
07-26-2006, 12:27 AM
aww...maybe run a train?


... okay this is gettin outta hand in a wierd way. Im stoppin there...

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 12:45 AM
MINI UPDATE!

ok gyes, so i was to physced up to just sit around and watch my half done trunk dry...so...i decided to do teh other side :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0989.jpg

this one went much faster than the orange side...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0994.jpg

i also cut out the centers (for the most part) of the speaker rings...who knew resin could be so tought to cut through!

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 12:47 AM
Equipment Update!

so i forgot to mention all the cool ***** i got today...i got in all my 1/0 awg wiring (stinger of corse) as well as all expert series Fuse holder and digital battery terminals :)

Ever wonder what $350 worth of wiring looks like?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0977.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0976.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0978.jpg

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 12:50 AM
**** $350....

looks **** good tho. cant wait to see the finished box!

im confused as to when to use mat or fleece. i know fleece is used to make the curvature in a project right? did u just put the resin on the fleece?

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 12:57 AM
yes, i just put resin/MEKP over the fleece, which strengthened it enuf to hold its own shape...and next i will be using FIberglass mat/Resin to strengthen teh shape even more...enought to wistand 145 db+ :)

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:01 AM
so your gonna put mat over that then re-resin it?

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 01:03 AM
correcet, 4 more layers of mat/resin on each side and then a trim panel over the whole thing, including the mitsu logo and amp rack and then 2 layers of mat/resin on that and then LOTS of sanding/bondo

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:10 AM
**** lots more glassing to go...lol

im gonna be making some door panels, how should i go about those? just mat them? its just for 6.5s

maldecido33
07-26-2006, 01:11 AM
heres a tip: fiberglass the INSIDE of the enclosure through the speaker opening; it won't take up hardly any noticeable airspace and will make that thing SOOOOO much easier to sand/bondo/finish

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:12 AM
i heard it is easier to prep for paint that way...

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 01:13 AM
^^ i was planning to, but thanks anyways ;)^^

and no, first u need to fleece and then buy either kitty hair (everglass mixed with shortstrand mat) or tiger hair (everglass mixed with longstrand glass) and just use that, no need to use resin at all really...unless u want to use it for ur very first layer

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:15 AM
so fleece then just put the kitty hair on it?

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 01:16 AM
correct...that would be the fastest way to make them :)

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:17 AM
nice ill look into that. where can i get that crap at? will the boating shop i got my resin and mat from have it?

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 01:18 AM
most likely, but if not ebay will definatly have it :)

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:21 AM
link me haha

its late- im tired lol

whats better? tiger or kitty?

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 01:28 AM
tiger for bigger areas and kitty for smaller, so ur gonna want kitty

heres a link for kitty hair

http://www.outdoorsuperstore.com/store/products/productDisplay.asp?productID=252716

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:31 AM
cool, so just like apply that on the fleece and its the same as putting mat and resin down? just one less step and easier? ima order some...

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 01:33 AM
ur prolly gunna want to strengthen the fleece b4 u apply teh kitty hair...with like one coat of resin...because unlike fiberglass, u dont paint kitty hair on, u SPREAD it, so ull need a sturdy surfact to do that on

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 01:40 AM
20+shipping for a quart

30 for a gallon of the resin locally....lol and like 7 for mat.

the resin i have here is polyguard.

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 01:48 AM
id opt for sum better resin if i were u...i no ur not going to be using much of it, and prolly think that there isnt a difference between brands...but if u spend the extra 10 bux per gallon to get EVERCOAT resin or something comparable i garantee u it will be worth it

phantom240
07-26-2006, 01:54 AM
well duh... i wasnt talkin bout kittyhair under other stuff... i meant as a filler, instead of bondo, or to add strength under the bondo

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 02:00 AM
hmm...

pimpedout97x
07-26-2006, 02:03 AM
Haha

phantom240
07-26-2006, 02:14 AM
lol that head just doesnt look like it belongs on that body

.::DuD3::.
07-26-2006, 11:45 AM
id opt for sum better resin if i were u...i no ur not going to be using much of it, and prolly think that there isnt a difference between brands...but if u spend the extra 10 bux per gallon to get EVERCOAT resin or something comparable i garantee u it will be worth it
i used the cheapest stuff at lowes and home depot, and i've used the expensive stuff and i've never noticed a difference :rolleyes: .

Cam
07-26-2006, 12:26 PM
I've used generic crappy stuff, vs stuff I bought at a plastic shop. The plastic shop stuff was WAY better quality for the same price; mostly because places like lowes let the resin sit on the shelf for god knows how long and it degrades. The good stuff goes on smoother, mixes thinner so it will saturate cloth easier, etc. Another way you can notice the quality difference is usually if you let generic resin harden in a bucket any more than 1/2" deep it will all crack and craze. The good stuff I used hardens into a solid translucent block that you can drop on the floor without it breaking.

crazy4ozs
07-26-2006, 12:57 PM
^^exactly^^ thanks for explaining that in my absence cam :)

phantom240
07-26-2006, 01:37 PM
lol.. i used cheap pep boys resin, with fiberglass it was like 42 bucks (i know thats a rip off...) and had it in half a .5gallon milk jug that i had cut half off of, and it cured in there, bout 1.5-2 inches deep, and it came out a dark brown see-thru block, and i beat my buddy over the head with it while he wasnt looking, and also threw it on the ground, no damage...

Cam
07-26-2006, 01:48 PM
Sometimes you get not bad stuff, but there's no guarantee. The stuff I got is $43CAD for a 1 gallon jug and it's ****** to work with compared to the Canadian Tire/Wal-Mart stuff I've used before.

phantom240
07-26-2006, 01:54 PM
hmmm... guess i lucked out eh?

ramos
07-26-2006, 02:00 PM
I've used generic crappy stuff, vs stuff I bought at a plastic shop. The plastic shop stuff was WAY better quality for the same price; mostly because places like lowes let the resin sit on the shelf for god knows how long and it degrades. The good stuff goes on smoother, mixes thinner so it will saturate cloth easier, etc. Another way you can notice the quality difference is usually if you let generic resin harden in a bucket any more than 1/2" deep it will all crack and craze. The good stuff I used hardens into a solid translucent block that you can drop on the floor without it breaking.


Depends on how hot you mix it , but why would I want to waste that much resin ? . Even bondo brand is expensive . Age has a lot more to do with anything than brand when it comes to poly resin . Epoxy is an entire different cup of tea though . But most auto parts stores and wally worlds carry poly resin. I use it quite often for spur of the moment jobs , and have yet to have any problems with it . On occasion it's kind of thick. But a little acetone will cure that problem nicely

helotaxi
07-26-2006, 02:31 PM
oh, so that's kitty hair? That's funny. Here's what I've been usin

:D
Funny thing is, that is how my dog usually sits around the house. Exact pose. As much as he sheds it's a wonder he's not bald, too.

crazy4ozs
07-28-2006, 02:56 AM
UPDATE!

so its 1:14 AM over here in beautifal Missouri...and just for u guys i decided to start the actual glassing protion fo the progress...check it...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0996.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0997.jpg

comments?

sorry 4 the bad pics

crazy4ozs
07-28-2006, 03:29 AM
bump for sum dam saxy glassin! oh w8...thats mine ;)

djfrestyl
07-28-2006, 10:22 AM
Looks d@mn good.

phantom240
07-28-2006, 10:56 AM
nooo... i wanted to have my box ringed and glassed before you!


...well not really... i still need to buy rings and ports.

denim
07-28-2006, 05:25 PM
keep it coming

crazy4ozs
07-29-2006, 03:19 AM
thanks for all teh compliments guys, i should have my two seperate boxes completley glassed and done with on sunday...then iw ill be fleecing the center portion...look foward for big updates

crazy4ozs
07-30-2006, 08:10 PM
NO PICS UPDATE!

got teh 2nd layer of glass done..i itch like a mofo. but its all in good cause :) ill have number 3 done 2nite

Nexson
07-30-2006, 08:20 PM
good looking man, f/g is a bia.

RegSo UnGh
08-01-2006, 04:50 PM
NO PICS UPDATE!

got teh 2nd layer of glass done..i itch like a mofo. but its all in good cause :) ill have number 3 done 2nite

what makes it itch...i wasnt sure, but im interested in fiberglassing..and the next car i may get is an 02 or 03 OZ

ur setup looks mighty nice

Cam
08-01-2006, 04:57 PM
tiny glass fibers that stick to your skin and poke you. (and won't wash off - I'm still itchy from saturday's glassing on my install.)

ramos
08-01-2006, 05:27 PM
Gloves and long sleeves even in the heat ftw :)

Cam
08-01-2006, 05:31 PM
big project + 7" sanding wheel make even long sleeves less than perfect, but I agree, some protective clothing is a big help

crazy4ozs
08-02-2006, 02:13 AM
UPDATE! okay guys, so i no, ive been a little slow, but here goes, this is what i have at 12:30 AM my time...3 layers of glass on teh left side and 2 layers on the right, i will eb doing teh final layer on teh right side tommarow :)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1000.jpg

shot of all ym hard work from teh past week

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0998.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0999.jpg

and just to make sure its strong enough ;)

kpozr2
08-02-2006, 02:16 AM
looks like its coming right along nicely. pretty strong stuff eh? when are you looking to get this project done?

crazy4ozs
08-02-2006, 02:18 AM
well, im looking to have all teh bondo'ing/sanding done by next wed or so...but in all reality prolly by next weekend :)

crazy4ozs
08-02-2006, 02:52 AM
no comments anybody?

djfrestyl
08-02-2006, 06:58 AM
Looks good. Why did you tape off the entire car? I would have just used those rolls of brown paper they use at body shops.

ramos
08-02-2006, 09:24 AM
Looks good. Why did you tape off the entire car? I would have just used those rolls of brown paper they use at body shops.


Trash bags , or a roll of plastic is cheaper and you get more of it :)

nYc.kablamO
08-02-2006, 10:49 AM
i still dont understand why you wouldnt build full mdf boxes and fleece over those

MikeyB
08-02-2006, 11:18 AM
Lookin good bro, I cant wait to see this project finished. :D

acreature
08-02-2006, 05:36 PM
i still dont understand why you wouldnt build full mdf boxes and fleece over those
weight :crap:

nYc.kablamO
08-03-2006, 12:02 AM
im not really a pro but if i were to do it I would have 2 angled mdf boxes on a base, stacked mdf rings so that the fleece wouldnt hit the corners, then fleece, but leave the last ring unglued (duobled up for flush mount) so the last ring becomes a part of the glassed piece (it gets screwed in later) and becomes a main support for the glass. then you could pop out the fleece and glass it from the back.. much easier and imo stronger especially around the ring.

crazy4ozs
08-03-2006, 12:42 AM
yes, well i guess we just all cant be experts like u nyc :)

2loud4u
08-03-2006, 01:46 AM
yes, well i guess we just all cant be experts like u nyc :)

x2

Looking sweet.
Glad to see you are taking your time and doing it right instead of rushing and making a complete mess of it.

Keep up the good work.
Also dont forget us and update the post asap. with more pics.

mikeyboc
08-03-2006, 01:51 AM
Looks sweet so far.

Although it would have been a little entertaining if the box broke and your *** fell through.

Ctminime
08-03-2006, 02:05 AM
i just read this whole thing and now i want to see the finished product!!!!! CMON work 24/7 like a real man lol

Nexson
08-03-2006, 08:21 AM
hehe, nice job man! but if it wasn't strong enough....you'd be screwed lol, thats the kinda test that if you fail, it *****! heh keep up the good work!
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN0999.jpg

crazy4ozs
08-03-2006, 03:29 PM
^^hehe well thats just how confident i am in my work^^

nYc.kablamO
08-03-2006, 08:32 PM
yes, well i guess we just all cant be experts like u nyc :)
:eyebrow: whos the expert? Im a bodyman/plastic& paint guy who messes around with fiberglass. Ive been down your road and it sux. i hope ur girl gives good massages since youll be spending 90 hrs bent up in that trunk. and ill tell you right now itll be **** hard to finish right. If you took ur time you would have a better plan.. you havent even gotten to the hard part yet

crazy4ozs
08-03-2006, 08:58 PM
:eyebrow: whos the expert? Im a bodyman/plastic& paint guy who messes around with fiberglass. Ive been down your road and it sux. i hope ur girl gives good massages since youll be spending 90 hrs bent up in that trunk. and ill tell you right now itll be **** hard to finish right. If you took ur time you would have a better plan.. you havent even gotten to the hard part yet

trust me, i no what the hard part is...and i am well prepared for it :)










sore back cream, lol

helotaxi
08-03-2006, 09:06 PM
Did I miss the part where you said how you were going to finish the box?

crazy4ozs
08-03-2006, 09:06 PM
BIG UPDATE!!!

so first of all today (which started at 7am btw ;)) i got teh 3rd and final layer of my 2 oz chop mat on...sturdy as hell...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1000.jpg

second of all, to make sure my bondo was not damaged by teh rain last nite, i did a quick crappy layer of bondo on teh left side...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1007.jpg

and for teh remainder of the 4 hours, i fleeced teh middle portion, PITA!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1008.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1011.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1012.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1017.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1019.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1020.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1026.jpg

j3bus2k3
08-03-2006, 09:11 PM
Holy **** balls batman...looks like you've got a months worth of sanding ahead of you,lol...Good luck man.

MikeyB
08-03-2006, 09:42 PM
Holy **** balls batman...looks like you've got a months worth of sanding ahead of you,lol...Good luck man.

x2

and

x2

Ingleside
08-03-2006, 09:58 PM
indeed

kpozr2
08-03-2006, 10:09 PM
how many gallons for that?

crazy4ozs
08-03-2006, 11:16 PM
2 gallons exactly my friend...and yes, i have *** balls of sanding to do...poopy

AJē06
08-03-2006, 11:22 PM
Wow.... I dont have ur patience... ;)

crazy4ozs
08-04-2006, 12:29 AM
thanks? lol


Did I miss the part where you said how you were going to finish the box?

it will be bondo'd down to a perfect finish and then painted bright as yellow :)

acreature
08-04-2006, 09:45 AM
it will be bondo'd down to a perfect finish and then painted bright as yellow :)

Bright as Yellow? or Yellow? :D


Nice work ;)

ramos
08-04-2006, 09:58 AM
thanks? lol



it will be bondo'd down to a perfect finish and then painted bright as yellow :)

Getting there man. Painting huh ? I want to see before and after pics of the forearms. :)

60ndown
08-04-2006, 10:27 AM
40 grit sandpaper 4tw

ramos
08-04-2006, 11:23 AM
40 grit sandpaper 4tw

Hell use 10 and a cheese grater . That's still an arse load of sanding :)

crazy4ozs
08-04-2006, 11:42 AM
^^haha^^

i have pleanty of 40 grit resin coated circuler stick-ons

Cam
08-04-2006, 12:31 PM
Something I did with the rear deck glass project I'm in the middle of right now that saved me a lot of time is to go to a plastic/body shop and get a bucket of "profil" <- tiny glass bubbles that you mix with fiberglass resin to get a paste of whatever consistency you like. I mixed it up just thick enough to 'hang' from semi vertical surfaces, but still thin enough to glob on with a paint brush and have it partially self level. A couple coats of this and you have an easy sanding, 1/2" thick surface all over your part.

Bondo is great for some things, but sometimes it's too thick, and won't fill really small imperfections unless you work it a lot.

ramos
08-04-2006, 12:43 PM
Something I did with the rear deck glass project I'm in the middle of right now that saved me a lot of time is to go to a plastic/body shop and get a bucket of "profil" <- tiny glass bubbles that you mix with fiberglass resin to get a paste of whatever consistency you like. I mixed it up just thick enough to 'hang' from semi vertical surfaces, but still thin enough to glob on with a paint brush and have it partially self level. A couple coats of this and you have an easy sanding, 1/2" thick surface all over your part.

Bondo is great for some things, but sometimes it's too thick, and won't fill really small imperfections unless you work it a lot.


I usually go with a thick (1/4") layer of duraglass. Sand it as smooth as possible with 40 grit roloc wheels. Then ice it with a coat of filler over everything. Knock down any ridges left by the spreader the second it starts turning rubbery. Then sand away, not carrying about sanding through the filler as long as everything is even and smooth. Touch up any pinholes with a few coats of high build primer. Sand that smooth , maybe another coat of regular epoxy primer. Sand it smooth , then shoot it with a coat of primer sealer , and paint it :)

crazy4ozs
08-04-2006, 12:56 PM
^^thats exactly what i plan on doing :)^^

nYc.kablamO
08-04-2006, 04:49 PM
the wheels are good if you dont go crazywith them or else youll end up with alot of low spots. with those curves youll be edging the wheel alot, makes it harder to work=more holes. After a good layer of kitty hair definetly try a putty file. they sell em at autozone pep boys whatever. just work the file in a nice cross pattern. theres alot less mess and your low spots are already marked. after all the high stuff is filed down and the lows are untouched, it makes it easy to see where you should add more kitty hair.
for the tight spots just cut a little piece of the file so you can work it with your thumb
G'luck

Rage00
08-05-2006, 09:27 AM
**** thats alot of work. i hope that it comes out how you want it, or it is going to be a ***** to take out and do over.

snb778
08-05-2006, 10:26 AM
oh, so that's kitty hair? That's funny. Here's what I've been usin

http://imagebank.ipcmedia.com/imageBank/s/shaved%20cat.jpg
:D


WHOAAAAAAA!!!!! WTF!!!!! thats hilarious!!

j3bus2k3
08-05-2006, 06:02 PM
WHOAAAAAAA!!!!! WTF!!!!! thats hilarious!!

LOL, we did that to my cat the other day cause her fur matted up on her back...poor thing looks just like that.

iamamp3pimp
08-05-2006, 06:41 PM
awesome buildup man.

this is thousands of dollars in labor btw.

bjfish11
08-05-2006, 08:56 PM
Yea, its coming along real nicely. I cant wait to see the finished product.

crazy4ozs
08-06-2006, 02:48 AM
awesome buildup man.

this is thousands of dollars in labor btw.

and that is EXACTLY why i am doing it myself :)

2loud4u
08-10-2006, 01:01 AM
any updates?

Rawr-DQ
08-10-2006, 08:18 PM
So, where are the rest of the picures of the finished product~

bibby
08-10-2006, 10:10 PM
Update?

Ingleside
08-10-2006, 10:24 PM
he realized he cant get the cover out and has scrapped the whole thing!

j/k..i dont know but i do want to see how it turns out.

Curel
08-10-2006, 10:26 PM
Thats is going to look ****in bad ***!

AJē06
08-10-2006, 10:31 PM
I luv this thread... more pics! And updates when u have them available... ;)

Lurius
08-10-2006, 11:41 PM
Been following this since page 5 man, keep it up, looks great. You should do some kind of lighting hooked to a magnetic switch, so that when the trunk opens the lighting comes on. I usually dont like lighting but this needs it =)

-Lurius

angryeric116
08-11-2006, 08:58 AM
Been following this since page 5 man, keep it up, looks great. You should do some kind of lighting hooked to a magnetic switch, so that when the trunk opens the lighting comes on. I usually dont like lighting but this needs it =)

-Lurius

x2

ramos
08-11-2006, 11:55 AM
He's probably to sore from sanding to post pics. Gonna look like popeye by the time he's done with all that sanding :)

pimpedout97x
08-11-2006, 12:02 PM
looks great man...cant wait to see when u start glassing the center part!

nYc.kablamO
08-12-2006, 05:01 PM
......
i hope your not relying on sandpaper

crazy4ozs
08-13-2006, 03:18 AM
ok...so, no pics...but the center part is glassed completley...and hal fof teh car is bondo'd...:) comments? i will have pics in teh next day or so

crazy4ozs
08-13-2006, 03:18 AM
^^most of the bondo was jsut to smooth out teh transitions from part to part

Rawr-DQ
08-13-2006, 04:31 PM
Get pics now.

Slowd N Throwd
08-13-2006, 04:58 PM
^^hehe well thats just how confident i am in my work^^


respect

Rawr-DQ
08-14-2006, 10:10 PM
Bump for updates

bibby
08-14-2006, 10:32 PM
Updates would be nice!

Cam
08-21-2006, 01:43 AM
Oi. You sniff youreslf to death on bondo fumes? I did that once... let's see some pics!

Rawb
08-21-2006, 01:58 AM
yeah come on, YOU CAN DO IT!!!! i figure the more encouragment you get from us the more u will feel that you cant scrap the project... been following since page one... keep it up dood... i just hope your super happy with the result

bibby
08-22-2006, 02:42 AM
eargh! update or :ban:

Cam
08-22-2006, 12:59 PM
*starts the wave*

OneKrazyKeebler
08-23-2006, 02:43 AM
<<<<<<<<<< stands up, raises hands, and sits back down

Mike yayo
08-23-2006, 05:51 PM
I/ve been waiting two months to see what this will look like UPDATES....

Slowd N Throwd
08-23-2006, 05:57 PM
I/ve been waiting two months to see what this will look like UPDATES....

x200000

beckSHO
08-23-2006, 09:06 PM
Yeah dude, how's this thing coming? It looks like a KILLER install. Really good work, makes us newbs want to try something like it.

crazy4ozs
08-24-2006, 08:52 PM
alright guys, so this isnt an update, but i am letting u no where i am standing...i have put teh trunk on hold for about a week...im moving back to college...check back in a week or so

OneKrazyKeebler
08-24-2006, 08:58 PM
alright guys, so this isnt an update, but i am letting u no where i am standing...i have put teh trunk on hold for about a week...im moving back to college...check back in a week or so

THANK GOD FOR HEARING SOMETHING. LOL. I WANNA SEE HOW THIS TURNS OUT. HURRY THE HELL UP! NICE WORK SO FAR I MIGHT ADD.

phantom240
08-24-2006, 10:27 PM
booo he realized its gonna **** and wont post pics! lol jk, but seriously... if you dont get to work im gonna fire you.

crazy4ozs
08-24-2006, 11:32 PM
fire me? does that mean im working for u...

money please...

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 03:41 AM
so finally i have an update, lol, sorry it took me so long guys...been doing college junk...but i have started bondo'ing and now what u see in front of u is what we fiberglassers call "milkshake"...a mix of bondo adn resin, makes for a great finish

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1032.jpg

and here is me finishing off teh trim pieces...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1039.jpg

and after a few more hours of work...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1045.jpg

tell me what u think...still far from finished but u get the idea ;)

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 04:30 AM
dang man...nuthin?






















haters

ramos
08-25-2006, 07:57 AM
Getting there my brother :)

blue93corsica
08-25-2006, 10:12 AM
coming, i still dont personally like the idea of a non removable box though, i dont really see any advantages of this over an enclosure that can be removed from the vehicle

OneKrazyKeebler
08-25-2006, 11:14 AM
coming, i still dont personally like the idea of a non removable box though, i dont really see any advantages of this over an enclosure that can be removed from the vehicle


It is that car show look. Just jaw dropping when you pop your trunk. It is way cooler than a rectangle box. No real advantages other than being cool as hell.

angryeric116
08-25-2006, 11:16 AM
It is that car show look. Just jaw dropping when you pop your trunk. It is way cooler than a rectangle box. No real advantages other than being cool as hell.

x2
having ppl say holy ***** not just because its loud but because its beautiful too

beckSHO
08-25-2006, 11:51 AM
Holy cow, that is amazing. Your work is awe-inspiring.

OneKrazyKeebler
08-25-2006, 11:57 AM
I would like to know what kind of router you have. Ive been debating on which one to get. What kind of bits would be usefull? Never really looked into one until yesterday. Not sure how to decide. lmk.

And yes, if you don't like the use of a unmovable enclosure, don't check out Alpine's Sinister 6.:naughty: :naughty:

saywhat?
08-25-2006, 11:57 AM
i personally dot think it will be loud at all....you completely sealed off the trunk from the car.....


the work looks good, but good luck being even close to satisfied with output.

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 01:02 PM
It is that car show look. Just jaw dropping when you pop your trunk. It is way cooler than a rectangle box. No real advantages other than being cool as hell.

bingo! :)

what do we have for him jhonny?!

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 01:05 PM
i personally dot think it will be loud at all....you completely sealed off the trunk from the car.....


the work looks good, but good luck being even close to satisfied with output.

ah ah ah...not exactly...the large green part that was fleeced last is simply a beauty panel...

as soon as i flip down the rear seats....all that built up pressure from the trunk enters teh cabin and...BOOM

Cam
08-25-2006, 01:35 PM
I haven't seen the "milkshake" before. I never thought of doing that because I didn't realise the same MEK hardener would work for the both compounds. What I've used that sands really easy and leaves a really nice finish is Resin mixed with microbead filler material. Using an orbital sander that stuff sands about 4x easier than bondo, and when you have a nice finish there you can paint it with something like resin alone for your final finish sanding and to seal it (cuz it'll **** up a lot of primer if you paint it by itself.)

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 01:37 PM
good tip, but i think ill stick with my milkshake (chocolate flavor) yummy:yumyum:

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 01:46 PM
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quit just standering there! write sumthing damit! lol

nVRuckus
08-25-2006, 01:49 PM
It is that car show look. Just jaw dropping when you pop your trunk. It is way cooler than a rectangle box. No real advantages other than being cool as hell.

yeah but the car show cars are actually not a single piece that is non removeable ;) I think thats what blue was getting at.

ramos
08-25-2006, 01:56 PM
coming, i still dont personally like the idea of a non removable box though, i dont really see any advantages of this over an enclosure that can be removed from the vehicle

I'm with ya , door panels are one thing. But I'm not fond of anything else non removable . :)



It is that car show look. Just jaw dropping when you pop your trunk. It is way cooler than a rectangle box. No real advantages other than being cool as hell.


There are ways of achieving that , and still have it removable . :)

ramos
08-25-2006, 01:58 PM
I haven't seen the "milkshake" before. I never thought of doing that because I didn't realise the same MEK hardener would work for the both compounds. What I've used that sands really easy and leaves a really nice finish is Resin mixed with microbead filler material. Using an orbital sander that stuff sands about 4x easier than bondo, and when you have a nice finish there you can paint it with something like resin alone for your final finish sanding and to seal it (cuz it'll **** up a lot of primer if you paint it by itself.)


good tip, but i think ill stick with my milkshake (chocolate flavor) yummy:yumyum:



proper sanding, and you don't need either . ;) :)

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 02:00 PM
proper?

or do u mean MORE?

ramos
08-25-2006, 02:07 PM
More, for starters I sand out all the rough spots I can , small divots and scratches are fine. That's what filler is for. When your done sanding the kitty hair . You should have the shape very well defined. Use good filler about 1/8" over everything. Then sand the fook out of it, till it looks smooth to you . Don't worry about sanding through the filler. You want glass smooth. I use black powder , and a big make up brush . Pat it all over the filler for a guide coat. Sand the entire surface lightly , and any low spots or high spots will show up quick :)

Cam
08-25-2006, 03:23 PM
Use good filler about 1/8" over everything. Then sand the fook out of it, till it looks smooth to you .

I wasn't suggesting you use the filler to make major shape changes - in fact the reason I like using this mixture is it tends to self level a bit, so you can paint it on relatively thin and smooth before you sand it.

Cam
08-25-2006, 03:27 PM
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quit just standering there! write sumthing damit! lol

Dude buggers off for like 3 weeks with no updates and then gets antsy when we don't comment :p

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 03:33 PM
clock another hour into this project

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1046.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1048.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/zharbison/DSCN1050.jpg

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 03:34 PM
sorry for teh pic quality...btw, this has only been sanded with 40 grit thus far...

Pull9Gs
08-25-2006, 04:49 PM
Glad im not sanding that. I soon have enough of it...

OneKrazyKeebler
08-25-2006, 04:55 PM
yeah but the car show cars are actually not a single piece that is non removeable ;) I think thats what blue was getting at.

True, I personally would like my car to be completely put back to stock when I decide to get rid of it.

But on the other hand, why do you put flake in your paint, why do you mold your bodykits, or shave door handles? It is just cool.

troy_audi0
08-25-2006, 04:59 PM
How do you plan on painting it?
gunna be kinda hard if you cant take it out of the car..?
Looks sweet though..
Lots of hard work I know..
Peace & Good Luck, have Fun, All that good stuff..
Troy

phyphoestilic
08-25-2006, 05:07 PM
How do you plan on painting it?
gunna be kinda hard if you cant take it out of the car..?
Looks sweet though..
Lots of hard work I know..
Peace & Good Luck, have Fun, All that good stuff..
Troy

tape up the surrounds and than spray it? like how they dont get paint on windows when they paint cars

saywhat?
08-25-2006, 05:17 PM
ah ah ah...not exactly...the large green part that was fleeced last is simply a beauty panel...

as soon as i flip down the rear seats....all that built up pressure from the trunk enters teh cabin and...BOOM

good ****, someone thinking things out for once :)

saywhat?
08-25-2006, 05:18 PM
True, I personally would like my car to be completely put back to stock when I decide to get rid of it.

But on the other hand, why do you put flake in your paint, why do you mold your bodykits, or shave door handles? It is just cool.

flakes and body kits arent cool....

nYc.kablamO
08-25-2006, 05:26 PM
tape up the surrounds and than spray it? like how they dont get paint on windows when they paint cars

:laugh:
he means to do it without drips/runs.
Some spots are going to be hard to get at.

prochobo
08-25-2006, 05:53 PM
I resined the inside of one of my boxes with 1 layer. My car smelled like **** for 2 weeks.

Your car will smell like **** for 2 years. LOL jk, but for a long time :P

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 05:57 PM
good ****, someone thinking things out for once :)

thanks :) i try

OneKrazyKeebler
08-25-2006, 06:37 PM
flakes and body kits arent cool....

Yeah some do, I know not all of them, im not a tuner myself, but why do spend thousands of dollars to get their car looking a certain way? Once they get done, they almost always look better than when they started. Thats why people do it. Personalization.

Ive never heard anybody saying, "That Hummer doesn't look good with 28s", unless they think they spent too much money on them.

Bottom line: Either you get it or you don't.

Cam
08-25-2006, 06:44 PM
That hummer doesn't look good with 28's. It looks like a cheerios box on top of a skateboard.

crazy4ozs
08-25-2006, 08:04 PM
:laugh:
he means to do it without drips/runs.
Some spots are going to be hard to get at.

i am having it proffessionally done...but my one guess on hwo to aviod drips/runs ect...is to do several "light" coats, to avoid teh paint becoming a thick "heavy" liquid and thus having gravity take control...

Insomniac119
08-25-2006, 08:16 PM
C'mown foo. Finish dat shite.

20th page :D +1 for me

PESteele
08-25-2006, 11:03 PM
its looking nice but bondoing that whole thing is gunna be a *****. Id like to do something like this on the walls of my van but its a pos anyway so why bother

Railrocker
08-25-2006, 11:05 PM
****it this thread keeps getting bumped and Im like OOOH OOOH hes done!
Then I find out hes not :furious:

Looks good so far im excited
:)

crazy4ozs
08-26-2006, 03:11 AM
lol...check in around october friend

crazy4ozs
08-26-2006, 03:11 AM
but hey page 20 ftw?

PESteele
08-26-2006, 10:22 AM
october? Finish it now *****. It might inspire me to make my system look finished

angryeric116
08-27-2006, 12:01 AM
can we at least get some in progress pics?

crazy4ozs
08-27-2006, 03:14 AM
check on page 19...that has been my most recent update...havnt done anything since then...**** weather

B_Campbell
08-27-2006, 03:16 AM
might that be housing my old babies?

crazy4ozs
08-27-2006, 03:25 AM
indeed it is...but unfortunaly ur babies are tucked away nice a safe in the crib...the shant be grown up until mid october ;)

regal8r
08-27-2006, 03:47 AM
just wondering, how are u gonna route your speaker wire???

iamamp3pimp
08-27-2006, 04:43 AM
That hummer doesn't look good with 28's. It looks like a cheerios box on top of a skateboard.



yup...its going in my sig.

crazy4ozs
08-27-2006, 10:10 AM
just wondering, how are u gonna route your speaker wire???

im glad u asked! ;) most people just drill through teh fire wall and run it under their carpet...well NOT ME! i spend a little under 500 bux buying my 1/0 awg and i intend to show it off...i will actualy be threading it through my headliner and having plexiglass windows cut and put in so u can see them when u look above u...and as far as into teh trunk, they will cross down through my b-pillers and then through my rear deck, and then wherever need be a hole will be drilled in the fiberglass and then sealed with silicone...:)

did i answer you question?

crazy4ozs
08-27-2006, 09:27 PM
alright guys, so i got all moved into college today, so just so everyone knows be expecting some big updates soon and a completion date of mid october :)

thanks for your patience

regal8r
08-27-2006, 11:55 PM
im glad u asked! ;) most people just drill through teh fire wall and run it under their carpet...well NOT ME! i spend a little under 500 bux buying my 1/0 awg and i intend to show it off...i will actualy be threading it through my headliner and having plexiglass windows cut and put in so u can see them when u look above u...and as far as into teh trunk, they will cross down through my b-pillers and then through my rear deck, and then wherever need be a hole will be drilled in the fiberglass and then sealed with silicone...:)

did i answer you question?

no, but thats an awesome idea...i was talking about ur SPEAKER wire...

nYc.kablamO
08-28-2006, 01:03 AM
I never was a capacitor fan but one in a molded/modded b pillar would be sweet.

crazy4ozs
08-28-2006, 02:51 AM
perhaps just for sho? one in each b-pillar?

OneKrazyKeebler
08-28-2006, 03:10 AM
im glad u asked! ;) most people just drill through teh fire wall and run it under their carpet...well NOT ME! i spend a little under 500 bux buying my 1/0 awg and i intend to show it off...i will actualy be threading it through my headliner and having plexiglass windows cut and put in so u can see them when u look above u...and as far as into teh trunk, they will cross down through my b-pillers and then through my rear deck, and then wherever need be a hole will be drilled in the fiberglass and then sealed with silicone...:)

did i answer you question?

Now thats what I am talking about.

Cam
08-28-2006, 12:26 PM
instead of silicone, I've used strain reliefs called "skin tops" sealed with silicone before. They're the ones that thread into a 7/8" hole or so, cut in your fiberglass, with a nut on the backside, and are hollow. You put your 1/0 thru the strain relief and tighten a domed nut down, which compresses a rubber sleeve. Look ****** when installed - that's how I ran my 1/0 ground through the trunk floor to the frame.