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supraman1379
06-14-2006, 05:23 PM
I know that I have to have points. But is that all I need. Or is there more to it. I dont know much bout the World Finals. I just compete for fun usually. But I was thinking bout trying for the World Finals

Johnny Drama
06-14-2006, 05:24 PM
Which organization?

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 05:26 PM
I believe IASCA.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 05:28 PM
I dont know much about the different orginazations either. So feel free to enlighten me.

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 05:35 PM
You don't need points with IASCA. They are a low budget org, and will allow you to just simply go to finals if you have the cash. DB Drag and Usaci require points and realy take finals seriously.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 07:36 PM
Ok lets say I run DB Drag. What do I need

zachzchw
06-14-2006, 07:37 PM
Ok lets say I run DB Drag. What do I need


A loud *** setup........and a good deal of knowledge.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 07:44 PM
loud as in upper 140s and 150s. And the knowledge part...thats why I joined the foum LOL.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 08:35 PM
All help is appreciated.

bri487
06-14-2006, 08:42 PM
loud as in upper 140s and 150s. And the knowledge part...thats why I joined the foum LOL.

all depends on the class i think. you will need a super loud setup which means you will need a lot of support/backing and a shitload of money.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 08:52 PM
OK. I already have my box for two 15s, gonna upgrade amps soon. Some sort of deadener. Better subs eventually.

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 08:56 PM
If its the box in the pic, then rebuild it. You will go through 100's of boxes to find what the truck likes. You will need alot of money to keep building boxes. You will need a good battery setup and a TON of power. To stay competitve you will need a stupid loud system and a stupid amount of money. If you can pull it off congrats...I would say do alot of research before you dive into the shark tank.

Oh and buy your self a meter so you can start tunign and building your system for SPL.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 09:01 PM
I would like to get a TL meter, but I dont have the money for that right now. But I am gonna be getting some grad money soon. Maybe ill get a bigger amp and alternator. And some deadener for a start and mess around with that for a while.

Im already being told I can take first in the next show I am going to. But well see bout that.

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 09:09 PM
doing a mid 140 is not all that bad is loud by any right, but taking a 1st at a local show is not the same as keeping up with the loudest in any of the orgs.

You need a TL more then you need product. You can simply change wire/box/sneeze and you will change SPL you may never know with the meter. If you really want to compete then you need to buy a TL and do a ton of testing.

Mr. Opportunist
06-14-2006, 09:13 PM
doing a mid 140 is not all that bad is loud by any right, but taking a 1st at a local show is not the same as keeping up with the loudest in any of the orgs.

You need a TL more then you need product. You can simply change wire/box/sneeze and you will change SPL you may never know with the meter. If you really want to compete then you need to buy a TL and do a ton of testing.
for db drag you need to be in upper 50s, you cant even have 40s in mind :laugh:

Rodeo91
06-14-2006, 09:17 PM
for db drag you need to be in upper 50s, you cant even have 40s in mind :laugh:

Yea man it is no joke. You have to be very dedicated and build, test, build, test, etc... You have a LOT of work to do if you are still asking about organizations, etc... Anyone can pretty much do 140's if they know how to buy equipment and build a simple ported box or whatever it may be. Getting in the range of 150+ is where the real work comes in.

Try posting this on termpro and see what the guys over there say.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 09:23 PM
Yea I figured that. I think I can pull maybe one or two more dbs out of my setup. I can turn up the amp and mess around with the different settings. But It prolly wont be enough for world finals

Mr. Opportunist
06-14-2006, 09:24 PM
whats street a at right now over seas like a 57 or something? w/ 2 10" l7's

Rodeo91
06-14-2006, 09:27 PM
whats street a at right now over seas like a 57 or something? w/ 2 10" l7's

Sounds familiar. Exactly my point though. It is NOT easy.

TypeRBass
06-14-2006, 09:33 PM
for db drag you need to be in upper 50s, you cant even have 40s in mind :laugh:

and in MECA if you dont do a 150 @ the kick you ****....like...YOU. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

dont worry, maybe one day you can break a 150 @ the kick.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 09:37 PM
I guess I have a lot of work to do. Better start buying and testing and installing and testing some more

bimma85
06-14-2006, 09:39 PM
Yea I figured that. I think I can pull maybe one or two more dbs out of my setup. I can turn up the amp and mess around with the different settings. But It prolly wont be enough for world finals
box seems awfully **** small for those 2 15s. Try one 15 tuned higher than 32 and with more port and air space :)

bimma85
06-14-2006, 09:40 PM
I guess I have a lot of work to do. Better start buying and testing and installing and testing some more
Kinda hard to test without that tl ;). Buy that before ya go buying new equipment

DBfan187
06-14-2006, 09:40 PM
Ok lets say I run DB Drag. What do I needyou need to make sweet and passionate love to Scottie Johnson.:ladysman:

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 09:44 PM
box seems awfully **** small for those 2 15s. Try one 15 tuned higher than 32 and with more port and air space :)
Yea Its kinda small. But I had that one built. I have never built a ported box before so i had it built for me.
I am planning on gettin another one buil tuned alot higher. Just for competition.
Tat way I can throw it in when I go.

ngsm13
06-14-2006, 10:10 PM
and in MECA if you dont do a 150 @ the kick you ****....like...YOU. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

dont worry, maybe one day you can break a 150 @ the kick.

BwaAAAaaAaAaAhaahahahahaha!!!!

Lawl... lawl... that's sad.

nG

TypeRBass
06-14-2006, 10:19 PM
BwaAAAaaAaAaAhaahahahahaha!!!!

Lawl... lawl... that's sad.

nG

:laugh: :laugh: its so true too :) i can finally say i dont **** anymore because i do a 150+ on teh dash now with the 2 fifteeeeeeenz.

ngsm13
06-14-2006, 10:20 PM
:laugh: :laugh: its so true too :) i can finally say i dont **** anymore because i do a 150+ on teh dash now with the 2 fifteeeeeeenz.

I do, with one ;)...

nG

Abel
06-14-2006, 10:22 PM
:laugh: :laugh: its so true too :) i can finally say i dont **** anymore because i do a 150+ on teh dash now with the 2 fifteeeeeeenz.


still waiting on pix of new box build ;)

ex_03
06-14-2006, 10:25 PM
I guess I have a lot of work to do. Better start buying and testing and installing and testing some more
I just posted the same answer on another thread but, I would go to as many shows where pros will be and try to talk to them sometimes you'll get lucky and they help ya out others will be nasty. I learned thru out my years from a few of them what to do and not to do! Check out the iasca, meca, usaci websites for the rules and classes. That will help you determine a little better what direction you'll want to go in.

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 10:36 PM
Kinda hard to test without that tl ;). Buy that before ya go buying new equipment

As I said and then he said..get that TL or your sunk before you start...



I say buy a TL, then buy some wood...then build/test/build/test...repeat...repeat
Sence you seem to have no idea whats going on, you need to find some people close to were you live that are willing help you out with box design and what to run. If you try to just push your way through with out taking the advice given or ask for help then your in for a realy long road.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 10:43 PM
I just posted the same answer on another thread but, I would go to as many shows where pros will be and try to talk to them sometimes you'll get lucky and they help ya out others will be nasty. I learned thru out my years from a few of them what to do and not to do! Check out the iasca, meca, usaci websites for the rules and classes. That will help you determine a little better what direction you'll want to go in.

I already have the IASCA rules. And I go to all of the shows that I find out about. Im actually going to one saturday night.
But I dont ever see alof of pros there. The last place I saw some actual pros was the SBN. I will definately be a competitor there next year.
But other than that, the only shows that come around here are from local audio shops. Like the one I will be at saturday.

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 10:47 PM
As I said and then he said..get that TL or your sunk before you start...



I say buy a TL, then buy some wood...then build/test/build/test...repeat...repeat
Sence you seem to have no idea whats going on, you need to find some people close to were you live that are willing help you out with box design and what to run. If you try to just push your way through with out taking the advice given or ask for help then your in for a realy long road.

Im taking all of your advice. I figured I had alot of work ahead of me.

I just talked with a friend, and we were talking about getting another vehicle. We dont know whether to get a hatchback, van, suv, or another mini truck.
I was thinking another ranger or an s10.
But we are planning something crazy loud.
Prolly a blowthrough with either 6 or 8 15s in it.

Would another ext cab truck like mine be good for that, or would we be better off getting something else.
If so, what should we get.

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 10:51 PM
If you want to realy compete then you need to get on the forums were the pro's are. Termpro and diald's usaci forum. Your 145 will win small shows more then likely but like said you will need mid 50's in any org to be in the top 5 in any stock class.

Also, most people on the forums don't know wtf they are talking about. They merly repeat what they hear from others. So you realy need to find your way to the Usaci or DB drag forums were you know the pro's are and that will help.

Although most will give you an idea on sub placement and tuning they will tell you to build and build and test and test. Every car/truck is different even if it is the exact same. If you need a list of sites and contacts on those sites PM me. I have in the SPL lanes and in the top 5 of Usaci(in pro-stock) for the past 5 years and have meet a ton of people who would be more then willing to help you and others on there to the lanes..

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 10:53 PM
1st gen S-10 X-cab. Use 2 or 3 15s ported and you can run Usaci outlaw doing mid 150's to high 150s maybe a 160 if get the product to back it up....

But if you want to got DB drag then there are a ton of ways to go most of them ending with a ton of power and subs to handle it...

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:02 PM
1st gen S-10 X-cab. Use 2 or 3 15s ported and you can run Usaci outlaw doing mid 150's to high 150s maybe a 160 if get the product to back it up....

But if you want to got DB drag then there are a ton of ways to go most of them ending with a ton of power and subs to handle it...

Between my friend and I, we can get the money slowly but surely. It will just take time to build it up.
So we will keep an eye out for a 1st generation s10.

Do you have any recomendations on subs and amps.

I apologize for all the questions, but this is something I have wanted to do since I got my first system. And I understand that it wont be easy.

We are looking for a lot of power, subs to handle it, batteries, caps, whatever we need. But we are going to do this.

So if anyone has any recomendations on subs, amps, batteries and such....please post your ideas.

It will be greatly appreciated.

skeptikal
06-14-2006, 11:06 PM
Between my friend and I, we can get the money slowly but surely. It will just take time to build it up.
So we will keep an eye out for a 1st generation s10.

Do you have any recomendations on subs and amps.

I apologize for all the questions, but this is something I have wanted to do since I got my first system. And I understand that it wont be easy.

We are looking for a lot of power, subs to handle it, batteries, caps, whatever we need. But we are going to do this.

So if anyone has any recomendations on subs, amps, batteries and such....please post your ideas.

It will be greatly appreciated.

TermLab before you buy anything....

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 11:15 PM
No problem on ?'s man..you have to learn some how....

I would of course buy the TL first before any...

After that figure out were your going with the build and what you are building...

I use L7s or DD subs...power just depends on what class what subs and type of setup...

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:18 PM
Alright the TL is on the top of my list.

I was thinking bout the L7s.
I always thought they had a slight advantage being square. Giving it that lil bit more cone area. But thats just me

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 11:20 PM
If your use the 1st gen S-10 X-cab and just doing the install in the cab you need 3 DD subs..the squares don't like that setup...I tried that didn't work...

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:22 PM
If your use the 1st gen S-10 X-cab and just doing the install in the cab you need 3 DD subs..the squares don't like that setup...I tried that didn't work...

What if we got a topper and did a blow through?

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 11:24 PM
Then it wouldn't matter if you had an X cab or reg...lol

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 11:25 PM
Also if you do any kind of walkthrough or blowthrough you will be in mod in USaci so you could not cross between orgs really. Not to mention unless you sell the truck with the product in it you won't get crap for it because of the cut..

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:25 PM
Then it wouldn't matter if you had an X cab or reg...lol
lol thats true. I didnt think about that.

Then I guess the appropriate question would be........which would work out better.

Mr. Opportunist
06-14-2006, 11:27 PM
:laugh: :laugh: its so true too :) i can finally say i dont **** anymore because i do a 150+ on teh dash now with the 2 fifteeeeeeenz.
go **** yourself you dont have a trunk :crap:

Ricky616
06-14-2006, 11:29 PM
go **** yourself you dont have a trunk :crap:
lol its a suv :yumyum: :D

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 11:38 PM
The setup just depends on what you want to do..Look throught the DB drag site and Usaci site and pick a class...then pick what you want to do for the class..your truck buy a car/truck....

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:48 PM
The setup just depends on what you want to do..Look throught the DB drag site and Usaci site and pick a class...then pick what you want to do for the class..your truck buy a car/truck....

Were prolly crazy, but we decided on the Extreme Division.

CHIT0WNZHUSTLA
06-14-2006, 11:50 PM
for db drag? :laugh: you ready to be doing 180s? extreme is suicide if you dont know what your doing...

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:51 PM
for db drag? :laugh: you ready to be doing 180s? extreme is suicide if you dont know what your doing...

Well give it a shot.

CHIT0WNZHUSTLA
06-14-2006, 11:52 PM
wow... just wow....

Flipx99
06-14-2006, 11:54 PM
for db drag you need to be in upper 50s, you cant even have 40s in mind :laugh:


And that is street A

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:56 PM
I think were gonna need a minivan lol

pro-rabbit
06-14-2006, 11:56 PM
Wow, well spend $3k and buy a car/truck/van half built...you will save about 3 years of work

supraman1379
06-14-2006, 11:56 PM
I thought I would never say that bout getting a mini van

Flipx99
06-14-2006, 11:58 PM
I am looking at SS 1-2 NW and I can drop $6k several months work, and then be "quiet" [4x40.1 + 2x Solo X 18s + 4 batters + 2 alternators]

CHIT0WNZHUSTLA
06-14-2006, 11:59 PM
I thought I would never say that bout getting a mini van
good luck, your going to need lots of it...

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 12:00 AM
So far its me, my friend, and a couple other friends going in on it. SO money shouldnt be as tight.

CHIT0WNZHUSTLA
06-15-2006, 12:02 AM
do you know how much time and money it took owens to break an 80(if he wasnt sponsored)(figured id use him since he seems to be the popular one at the moment) let alone all of the others out there doing it?

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 12:05 AM
do you know how much time and money it took owens to break an 80(if he wasnt sponsored)(figured id use him since he seems to be the popular one at the moment) let alone all of the others out there doing it?

No I dont know exactly how much. I know its way up there. But this is what we wanna do.
It goes back to that stupid saying....if you put your mind to it....you can do it.
lol

Flipx99
06-15-2006, 12:08 AM
It isn't the big things, its the small things: runs and runs of wire, cases of wood glue, forests of mdf....it costs about $25 to build a box. In extreme, probably alot more. Perhaps triple. Then you build 40--50 boxes to test. Then the time, then the cost of shows. I know because I am budgeting it. I am not telling you not to, just that it is expensive. Resale value on equipment is about 25%-50%. 0% if you fvck it up in the process (and you will)

CHIT0WNZHUSTLA
06-15-2006, 12:09 AM
extreme it is a wall that will cost well over 1g in wood easily

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 12:10 AM
It isn't the big things, its the small things: runs and runs of wire, cases of wood glue, forests of mdf....it costs about $25 to build a box. In extreme, probably alot more. Perhaps triple. Then you build 40--50 boxes to test. Then the time, then the cost of shows. I know because I am budgeting it. I am not telling you not to, just that it is expensive. Resale value on equipment is about 25%-50%. 0% if you fvck it up in the process (and you will)

I completely understand that. Ive got the resources for the glue and boxes and the equipment for that. I got that part covered. Its the rest that will slow us down a lil.

CHIT0WNZHUSTLA
06-15-2006, 12:11 AM
i dont think you truely understand how much money and time this is going to take...

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 12:12 AM
I know there is alot more involved that what I have stated in some of my previous posts. And I know it will take us a while to get going. But were gonna do this.

Flipx99
06-15-2006, 12:14 AM
I have spent several hours just budgeting costs of product, materials, shows, gas, hotel/motel, broken equipment....and yet to have made a purchase.

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 12:15 AM
Alright well im outta here for tonight. I appreciate all your help and ill try to get back with ya on it tomorow.

Thanks

pro-rabbit
06-15-2006, 12:29 AM
Extreme is a killer really...concrete the roof...tripple to quad layered boxes....I think I know of one forsale though that might save ya a ton of time...

pro-rabbit
06-15-2006, 08:26 AM
http://www.diald.com/usaci/viewtopic.php?t=1686

80INCHES
06-15-2006, 08:57 AM
Ok lets say I run DB Drag. What do I need
u have to collect 100points and be within the top 16 in your class...and u cant just go to the world finals u have to be invited

80
i just started hanging out with alot of db draggers

Mike Troll
06-15-2006, 09:11 AM
I recommend you start in the smaller classes (Super Street in DB drag) and then when you can get more money for better equipment you rebuild...eventually if you atleast make a small name for yourself company's will start to notice you and then the sponsorships come...youve gotta spend that intial money first.

Alot of the big names in DBDrag started small, you should as well.

Just a final FYI....doing 150's out of a truck is not an easy task.

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 06:40 PM
I recommend you start in the smaller classes (Super Street in DB drag) and then when you can get more money for better equipment you rebuild...eventually if you atleast make a small name for yourself company's will start to notice you and then the sponsorships come...youve gotta spend that intial money first.

Alot of the big names in DBDrag started small, you should as well.

Just a final FYI....doing 150's out of a truck is not an easy task.

What all is involved in super street? Maybe I can convince my friends to go with something smaller.

forceofwill
06-15-2006, 09:24 PM
I would definately start out with street or super street. Once you guys have a setup that pumps out solid numbers then you can move on. Extreme is really crazy, I couldn't even imagine starting in that class. Inch thick plexi for the windows is like 600 a sheet, batteries, boxes....not to mention you would have to trailor it to shows. Having a car that you can drive to shows would make it a lot easier too.

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 09:44 PM
Yea. They wanna stay in extreme, so were gonna go for it

What do ya think of this setup?
8 MT 15s
9 IA 20.1 (one spare)
Big *** wall
Wire on top of wire and more wire
A bunch of batteries (not sure how many tho) Mae suggestions.
Prolly two 400 amp alts

forceofwill
06-15-2006, 10:07 PM
Yea. They wanna stay in extreme, so were gonna go for it

What do ya think of this setup?
8 MT 15s
9 IA 20.1 (one spare)
Big *** wall
Wire on top of wire and more wire
A bunch of batteries (not sure how many tho) Mae suggestions.
Prolly two 400 amp alts


Yeah, that could definately do it :cool: Add the Termlab and testing/boxes and go for it.

squeak12
06-15-2006, 10:08 PM
Your gonna need more amps than that. And how do you plan on fitting 8 15s?
www.termpro.com/dbdrag Read up on rules and class specs first.

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 10:54 PM
How many more amps?

squeak12
06-15-2006, 11:06 PM
Just to give you an idea, Scottie Johnson had 9 15s and 36 amps at one point.

bimma85
06-15-2006, 11:10 PM
Yea Its kinda small. But I had that one built. I have never built a ported box before so i had it built for me.
I am planning on gettin another one buil tuned alot higher. Just for competition.
Tat way I can throw it in when I go.
so you plan on being a world finalist and not even doing the work yourself :confused:
as for your 8 mt system..10% gear 90% install ;)

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 11:15 PM
so you plan on being a world finalist and not even doing the work yourself :confused:
as for your 8 mt system..10% gear 90% install ;)

Im sure I could build one if I took the time and tried. But I really dont wanna try for my daily driver. lol. But for something like the astro van were gona build, id be willing to learn to do that. And besides, well prolly go through a ton of boxes so i can learn. lol

supraman1379
06-15-2006, 11:16 PM
Just to give you an idea, Scottie Johnson had 9 15s and 36 amps at one point.

What all was he running. What kind of amps and subs?

squeak12
06-15-2006, 11:20 PM
Dont know anything more than that. Check the DB Drag site I linked.

ngsm13
06-15-2006, 11:30 PM
Yea. They wanna stay in extreme, so were gonna go for it

What do ya think of this setup?
8 MT 15s
9 IA 20.1 (one spare)
Big *** wall
Wire on top of wire and more wire
A bunch of batteries (not sure how many tho) Mae suggestions.
Prolly two 400 amp alts
Like I said... it takes...

KNOWLEDGE...

You'll get laughed out of Extreme... those are people with YEARS of experience... hahaha you'd be in Extreme 5+ with TEAM LOUD and Edge Audio... hahaha 180+ dB's....

You'd need 4 amps PER SUB. About 80-100 batteries... about a mile of 1/0...

Then you'd need to actually know what you're doing...

No offense meant whatsoever man, but I'm just being straight up with you.

Not to mention you've already missed out on almost half the season...

nG

J B M
06-15-2006, 11:47 PM
I just want to chime in real quick, but even in super street, you'll want 4 amps per sub, and as many batts as you can fit in your vehicle.

I have 20 batts and I'm adding at least 10 more before finals and I'm in super street no wall. I also run 4 amps per sub.

If you really want to run in the extreme division, you want a van, alot of concrete, steel, mdf and tons of batts.

The super street classes are putting up some insane numbers this year...it is not easy.

Good luck though and I see you're in ocala...shoot me a pm and maybe me and the rest of the team can help you out.

supraman1379
06-16-2006, 08:40 AM
Like I said... it takes...

KNOWLEDGE...

You'll get laughed out of Extreme... those are people with YEARS of experience... hahaha you'd be in Extreme 5+ with TEAM LOUD and Edge Audio... hahaha 180+ dB's....

You'd need 4 amps PER SUB. About 80-100 batteries... about a mile of 1/0...

Then you'd need to actually know what you're doing...

No offense meant whatsoever man, but I'm just being straight up with you.

Not to mention you've already missed out on almost half the season...

nG


Yea I know we missed out on most of the season now. But thats ok because it wont be done for a long time.

ngsm13
06-16-2006, 09:47 AM
Yea I know we missed out on most of the season now. But thats ok because it wont be done for a long time.

You happen to read the rest of that post?

;)

nG

supraman1379
06-16-2006, 07:14 PM
Yea I did. And once again my friends have changed their minds. SO I made sure this is what they wanted to do fur sure. They are back to the super street idea after I have been relaying this info to them.
So what would be a good setup for that?

Sorry they cant make up their minds. If they change again, i wont say anything. lol

djman37
06-16-2006, 07:18 PM
Yea. They wanna stay in extreme, so were gonna go for it

What do ya think of this setup?
8 MT 15s
9 IA 20.1 (one spare)
Big *** wall
Wire on top of wire and more wire
A bunch of batteries (not sure how many tho) Mae suggestions.
Prolly two 400 amp alts

at least 2 20.1's per sub.:D

forceofwill
06-16-2006, 07:20 PM
Go read the equipment limits for each class, and discuss between yourselves what would be good for you. Whatever you guys choose, it will be a good learning experiance. I wouldn't expect to bring home any trophies for a while, but competing isn't just about winning. It's a hobby and it's about fun.

supraman1379
06-16-2006, 07:21 PM
Since the plan is to run super street now, I think we will stick to the same subs and amps.
It wont be in a mini van.
Prolly first generation s10
Maybe 4 15 MTs in a wall.
Two or maybe even four IA 20.1 on each one.

What do yall think.

supraman1379
06-16-2006, 07:22 PM
Go read the equipment limits for each class, and discuss between yourselves what would be good for you. Whatever you guys choose, it will be a good learning experiance. I wouldn't expect to bring home any trophies for a while, but competing isn't just about winning. It's a hobby and it's about fun.
It wouldnt feel any different from any other time. I dont bring home trophies now LOL.
Maybe I will tommorow tho. Well see.

ngsm13
06-16-2006, 07:29 PM
Since the plan is to run super street now, I think we will stick to the same subs and amps.
It wont be in a mini van.
Prolly first generation s10
Maybe 4 15 MTs in a wall.
Two or maybe even four IA 20.1 on each one.

What do yall think.

SS + truck = FTL...

You need an SUV or VAN.

Also, you'll need 80+ batteries @18v ;)

nG

supraman1379
06-16-2006, 07:32 PM
SS + truck = FTL...

You need an SUV or VAN.

Also, you'll need 80+ batteries @18v ;)

nG

Astro van? Or if we got an SUV, what would be best?
And does it matter what kind of batteries Or does it have to be the one built for stereo equipment?

ngsm13
06-16-2006, 08:26 PM
Astro van? Or if we got an SUV, what would be best?
And does it matter what kind of batteries Or does it have to be the one built for stereo equipment?

Astro Van would be ideal.

I'd recommend some type of deep cycle, 16V battery banks...

nG

supraman1379
06-17-2006, 12:20 AM
Astro Van would be ideal.

I'd recommend some type of deep cycle, 16V battery banks...

nG

Alright thanks.

Astro it is. Any Ideas as to what would be louder than MTs?

tommyk90
06-17-2006, 01:09 AM
Alright thanks.

Astro it is. Any Ideas as to what would be louder than MTs?

Nothing really.

MT's have really proven themselves in db drag. TONS of people ran them last year.


This is going to be quite an expensive setup. Why dive into such an expensive class right off the bat? I'd take the cheaper route at start in street max to where you are limited on batteries (and amps i believe?). It'll save you A LOT of time and money, and you'll get more experience that you can transfer over to a super street car.

Even the SS guys are doing mid 160's in the lowest classes.

J B M
06-17-2006, 10:05 AM
Put it this way...in order to be competitive at this years world finals, you would need to be doing numbers like this:

SS1-2 NW: 161+
SS 1-2: 164+
SS 3-4: 166+
SS 5+: 168+

But to win at world finals, you need to add at least 2 db's to each of those scores!

I would look for a bunch of 8V batts. If you're still in ocala, I know someone who has 54 8V batts for sale right now and a 16V charger that he is looking to sell.

In SS 3-4 right now, Gorman holds the record at 167.4...but that's probably going to be broken real soon, by either Gorman or someone else...

ngsm13
06-17-2006, 06:26 PM
Alright thanks.

Astro it is. Any Ideas as to what would be louder than MTs?

Wardens ;).


Put it this way...in order to be competitive at this years world finals, you would need to be doing numbers like this:

SS1-2 NW: 161+
SS 1-2: 164+
SS 3-4: 166+
SS 5+: 168+

But to win at world finals, you need to add at least 2 db's to each of those scores!

I would look for a bunch of 8V batts. If you're still in ocala, I know someone who has 54 8V batts for sale right now and a 16V charger that he is looking to sell.

In SS 3-4 right now, Gorman holds the record at 167.4...but that's probably going to be broken real soon, by either Gorman or someone else...
Scottie's done higher than that in dBDrag, just not World Record stipulations...

nG

squeak12
06-17-2006, 06:32 PM
Wardens ;).


Scottie's done higher than that in dBDrag, just not World Record stipulations...

nG


IF you somehow get some Wardens, be ready to spend some money. From what I hear, they can take 4 40.1s which Im sure equals around 20,000 watts.

ngsm13
06-17-2006, 06:40 PM
IF you somehow get some Wardens, be ready to spend some money. From what I hear, they can take 4 40.1s which Im sure equals around 32,000++ watts.
Indeed. ;)

Cept, I fixed something for ya... but who knows ;)

nG

squeak12
06-17-2006, 06:43 PM
I was just guessing, figured they are underrated a bit and was saying 5000x1 but I wasnt really thinking LOW impedence.

supraman1379
06-18-2006, 05:45 PM
What are people hitting in street max

J B M
06-19-2006, 08:54 AM
I'd say a competitive number in SMax 1-2 is 158+ and a competitive number in SMax 3-4 is about a 160+

Those numbers would be competitive but I wouldn't guess numbers like that would win WF anytime soon.


Scottie's done higher than that in dBDrag, just not World Record stipulations...

I know Scottie is loud. And from what I hear, Ben has also tested higher then those scores. There's quite a few people that are already higher than those scores...but it was a general reference of competitive scores, not winning scores.

ngsm13
06-19-2006, 12:43 PM
I'd say a competitive number in SMax 1-2 is 158+ and a competitive number in SMax 3-4 is about a 160+

Those numbers would be competitive but I wouldn't guess numbers like that would win WF anytime soon.



I know Scottie is loud. And from what I hear, Ben has also tested higher then those scores. There's quite a few people that are already higher than those scores...but it was a general reference of competitive scores, not winning scores.

Werd.

So what are the stipulations in order for a score to be a WR while in competition? It has to be a 3x show right?... and?

nG

J B M
06-19-2006, 03:56 PM
yeah 3X or WF and you have to break the old record twice, meaning you break the record then you have to back up that new record score.

Chevyaudio
06-19-2006, 04:11 PM
I definatly think you should start small, and then...and only then if you are dedicated enough and prove yourself a few times at finals people will start noticing and thats how you can pick up sponsors and thats how you get the cash and equipment to build an Extremem Van. Remember it doesnt matter what class you are in...being competitive at world finals in any class is an honor and an achievement in itself.

supraman1379
06-19-2006, 04:40 PM
I definatly think you should start small, and then...and only then if you are dedicated enough and prove yourself a few times at finals people will start noticing and thats how you can pick up sponsors and thats how you get the cash and equipment to build an Extremem Van. Remember it doesnt matter what class you are in...being competitive at world finals in any class is an honor and an achievement in itself.

Yea I know what you mean.

supraman1379
06-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Ok, how small do you think we should start?

LoudS10Blazer
06-19-2006, 05:19 PM
Try bass race for starters, thats what im getting into.

supraman1379
06-19-2006, 10:42 PM
Try bass race for starters, thats what im getting into.

Could I run bass race with what I have now, or would we have to build a new vehicle?

I dont know too much about bass race so please fill me in.

thanks