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iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 08:17 PM
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/poly_6.5_page.html


are these any good?

really good, or just okay for midbass......since ill be able to run active an all

InhumanAcura
06-05-2006, 08:27 PM
im using some for ht...i like em.

dalucifer
06-05-2006, 08:27 PM
got some in my car..they sound great...

~Magick_Man~
06-05-2006, 08:39 PM
i have ben running a pair in my car since they came out.
i cant comment on the mid-bass since my kick pods werent sealed at all so there was major cancellation.

but overall i loved them especially for the price.

~Magick_Man~

iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 09:08 PM
hmmm


i winder is that price for the pair, or a single one

zachzchw
06-05-2006, 09:09 PM
hmmm


i winder is that price for the pair, or a single one


I believe its $35 each......Im actually looking at these in place of the XXX mids.
Someone have pics of these? Curious to see how large they actually are.

~Magick_Man~
06-05-2006, 09:11 PM
I believe its $35 each......Im actually looking at these in place of the XXX mids.
Someone have pics of these? Curious to see how large they actually are.

i have heard that they use the same basket as the xxx but it uses a neo motor that is pretty small.
still just a hair over 3" depth
i would imagine they will be a step down from the xxx unless the xxx dont fit in your application.

~Magick_Man~

bumpin_blazer
06-05-2006, 09:13 PM
they are some **** good speakers especially for 35 bucks.

iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 09:14 PM
so they are great for modbass, and midrange?

or just midbass.......

going with a 2 way active setup, and im new at that all together

bumpin_blazer
06-05-2006, 09:16 PM
they do well for 2-way depending on what tweeter you run. tweeter's are the biggest problem i used to run into with an active 2-way.

zachzchw
06-05-2006, 09:19 PM
i have heard that they use the same basket as the xxx but it uses a neo motor that is pretty small.
still just a hair over 3" depth
i would imagine they will be a step down from the xxx unless the xxx dont fit in your application.

~Magick_Man~


Ive read that these will actually perform much better in a two way setup than the XXX mids......they can play a wider range of frequencies, as the XXX mids start to sound sloppy above 1200hz........

Didnt know they used the same basket........and thats still significant mounting depth. They are much lighter, though.....

Definitely think Ill pick a pair of these up if I can get rid of the XXX mids.

ngsm13
06-05-2006, 09:23 PM
I was one of the first people to get them, even before they were released on the site.

Used them in my truck active, in ~.2cubes sealed. Great tonality, good midbass, extend well even till around 3.5kHz, overall great speakers. Can't argue much for the price ;).

Bout to put my XXX6.5's back in though, these were bought for home stereo use...

:)

nG

iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 09:28 PM
you glass a custom enclosure for em Noah?



I havent done kicks yet, but if i do, would it be stupid to run 2 sets of them?

on in the kick, sealed, and one in the door....ib?

iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 09:29 PM
i am an admitted Noobix Cube in front stage, active setups, or quality of any kind

ngsm13
06-05-2006, 09:30 PM
you glass a custom enclosure for em Noah?



I havent done kicks yet, but if i do, would it be stupid to run 2 sets of them?

on in the kick, sealed, and one in the door....ib?

In that fashion, running 2way... yes it would be stupid.

If you wanted to run 3-way front stage, it would work... but be superfluous.

In my truck I have sealed fiberglass door pods I made about a year ago... ;)

nG

iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 09:32 PM
can the 880-prs run actuve 3 way from the deck?

my instincts tell me no

zachzchw
06-05-2006, 09:33 PM
Noah, if I ditched the XXX mids in favor of these, would it be a horrible move?
As in, would I lose an AMAZING amount of midbass by not using the XXX mids?

bumpin_blazer
06-05-2006, 09:38 PM
can the 880-prs run actuve 3 way from the deck?

my instincts tell me no

no sir. it can do active 2-way and a sub though.

iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 09:58 PM
In that fashion, running 2way... yes it would be stupid.

If you wanted to run 3-way front stage, it would work... but be superfluous.

In my truck I have sealed fiberglass door pods I made about a year ago... ;)

nG


Make a door pod tutorial.


!!!

Fast1one
06-05-2006, 11:16 PM
Im looking to these as well....Ive heard by some that they can extend to 5khz....a little similar to what the extremis can do...

Look in the review section theres a review for these as well...

B_Campbell
06-05-2006, 11:36 PM
Just bought Majik man's old poly mids yesterday . I hooked them up free air last night and ran some tones on them, they're really nice and clear, they sounded better than my old boston pros did I cant wait to have these and my cd3 horns in the car. Gonna be loud.

iamamp3pimp
06-05-2006, 11:38 PM
^^
i agree

ngsm13
06-05-2006, 11:58 PM
Make a door pod tutorial.


!!!

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94516

and

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98352

w00t.

nG

ngsm13
06-06-2006, 12:06 AM
Noah, if I ditched the XXX mids in favor of these, would it be a horrible move?
As in, would I lose an AMAZING amount of midbass by not using the XXX mids?

Solid move. You'll get something "comparable"... little less low-end output and power handling... but A LOT higher extension... ;)

nG

bumpin_blazer
06-06-2006, 12:36 AM
Solid move. You'll get something "comparable"... little less low-end output and power handling... but A LOT higher extension... ;)

nG

yeah that's what she said;)

iamamp3pimp
06-06-2006, 03:08 AM
looks like ima have to pick some up in a month or so.

What about tweets?

I do not like the harsh bright sound...

ngsm13
06-06-2006, 12:35 PM
looks like ima have to pick some up in a month or so.

What about tweets?

I do not like the harsh bright sound...

Get the tweets from Ascendant too ;)

nG

iamamp3pimp
06-06-2006, 12:47 PM
haha dang


maybe ill have too

iamamp3pimp
06-06-2006, 12:50 PM
went looking and didn't see any...any more suggestions?

Thanks

ngsm13
06-06-2006, 12:56 PM
went looking and didn't see any...any more suggestions?

Thanks

http://ascendantaudio.com/Arbiter_TM.html

Scroll down, Arbiter TM set... $80 for woofer/tweeter combo. ;)

n00bx.

:)

nG

JoeHemi57
06-06-2006, 01:04 PM
http://ascendantaudio.com/Arbiter_TM.html

Scroll down, Arbiter TM set... $80 for woofer/tweeter combo. ;)

n00bx.

:)

nG
thats a helluva deal. any ideas on a passive that could be used for people less than capable of tuning active?

ngsm13
06-06-2006, 01:06 PM
thats a helluva deal. any ideas on a passive that could be used for people less than capable of tuning active?

Any half decent 2way passive with 12dB/oct slopes or better would be acceptable. I'd recommend one with an xover point in the 2.5-3.2kHz range, which should be pretty easy to find ;)

nG

iamamp3pimp
06-06-2006, 02:13 PM
the arbiter poly mid is the same as the prev mentioned poly mid?



!!!!


noobx

Fast1one
06-06-2006, 02:14 PM
^^^^Yes....just comes with the tweet :)

iamamp3pimp
06-06-2006, 02:17 PM
sickness.

im gonna run my RE RE comps and pick those up if i think theyll be better.

ngsm13
06-06-2006, 11:10 PM
sickness.

im gonna run my RE RE comps and pick those up if i think theyll be better.

They are DEFINITELY better, more output, cleaner, less harsh... ;)

nG

iamamp3pimp
06-07-2006, 01:01 AM
nice.

then its only a matter of time. for now, ill run the comps active from the deck. we will go from there.

PollyCranopolis
06-12-2006, 11:11 AM
So If I ordered these, I could run them off my RF851X 4 channel? I just got a 880prs.

http://www.ascendantaudio.com/Arbiter_TM.html

If so, then It would be a matter of getting a decent sub amp to dump about 500w into my PGTitanium 15, and grabbing some door deadener.

Just how would a cheaper Active setup compare to a more expensive passive comp set? Say going this route, versus getting a set of SLC's?

99StangGt
06-12-2006, 08:59 PM
Going active would give you alot more options on crossover points and slopes. Its amazing how the sound changes when doing those adjustments. Also with the 880 you would have time delay thats seperate for each mid and tweet, wheres with passive you only have time delay for each side. when going active you cant really have rear fill, I dont use that.

iamamp3pimp
06-12-2006, 09:03 PM
i dont have room for it, as the rear is gone.

Wall in the place

MemphisLove.
06-12-2006, 09:12 PM
wow this si soo weird cause i was JUST about to ask about these

MemphisLove.
06-12-2006, 09:20 PM
ok so if i bought the http://ascendantaudio.com/Arbiter_TM.html woth the crossover that is basically a component system or am i missing something here. cause if so i think thats a hell a deal

99StangGt
06-12-2006, 10:08 PM
Looks to be 240.00 with assembled crossovers for a pair. and those crossovers dont come in an encloser, I am sure its just the ones that you see in home speakers. That might make it harder to install. But yes that would be a component set. I am going to buy the mids I think

iamamp3pimp
06-12-2006, 11:03 PM
80 per side.

PollyCranopolis
06-12-2006, 11:15 PM
So in other words..I think I have a good thing going here. Give each side about 110 watts, nicley deadened doors..should sound nice. I've been in touch with Flako, and I'll prob be picking up a nice Merlin for my 15. I'm narrowing this down between this AA active set, and some Dayton references....

iamamp3pimp
06-12-2006, 11:34 PM
couldnt help ya either way, but if u get these, lmk how the tweets are

99StangGt
06-12-2006, 11:36 PM
80.00 per side for just the mids and tweets, 99.00 per side for mids, tweets and the parts to make crossovers and 119.00 per side for mids, tweets and crossovers assembled. I would go for the 80.00 per side and buy some crossovers built for cars.

ngsm13
06-12-2006, 11:45 PM
I can give you excellent starting points for the AA set, as far as xovers points and slopes are concerned...

They sound great, AMAZING output, and great SQ. I recommend sealed door pods, or a good deadened door... like in the tutorial on this site... ;)

nG

zachzchw
06-13-2006, 02:57 AM
MMM, cant wait to order these......

PollyCranopolis
06-13-2006, 09:40 AM
Why would I need the crossovers if Im running active from the deck? Also, any opinions on how the Dayton Ref Series compares to these?

99StangGt
06-13-2006, 10:50 AM
Why would I need the crossovers if Im running active from the deck? Also, any opinions on how the Dayton Ref Series compares to these?
you wont need crossovers, thought you were wanting to know the difference between using passive and going active.

PollyCranopolis
06-13-2006, 05:54 PM
no, Just wondering how these cheaper Active sets compare in SQ to say a more expensive set of passives. Not in tuning options, as thats one of the main reasons for going active anyway, but from a output and SQ point of view.

Fast1one
06-13-2006, 06:01 PM
SQ should improve when going active, thats the whole point you can tune your system to the placement of the drivers/tweeters and tune specifically to your car.

And ouput will also improve as passives steal some power....

ngsm13
06-13-2006, 07:49 PM
no, Just wondering how these cheaper Active sets compare in SQ to say a more expensive set of passives. Not in tuning options, as thats one of the main reasons for going active anyway, but from a output and SQ point of view.

I'll put mine up against **** TONS of passive component setups...

I mean a **** TON.

nG

Fast1one
06-13-2006, 07:51 PM
^^^Whats a **** ton look like :P

ngsm13
06-13-2006, 07:59 PM
Oh you know... it's kind of like an assload...

nG

99StangGt
06-13-2006, 08:43 PM
I just ordered a pair of polys and an assassin 12. I hope this is the last mids I buy for a while :laugh:

Fast1one
06-13-2006, 09:02 PM
I just ordered a pair of polys and an assassin 12. I hope this is the last mids I buy for a while :laugh:Awesome let us know how it sounds and privide some pics!

Whats the assassin going in? Box wise

99StangGt
06-14-2006, 11:44 AM
assassin is going in about 1cf sealed. I just hope it works good in it because I dont want to make another box.

Fast1one
06-14-2006, 02:32 PM
Should sound excelent sealed, just dont expect rattling bass, just enough :)

adio
06-14-2006, 08:56 PM
They are DEFINITELY better, more output, cleaner, less harsh... ;)

nG
whats def better, the aa mids or the re's he's talkin about?

ngsm13
06-14-2006, 09:54 PM
whats def better, the aa mids or the re's he's talkin about?

AA Mids are hands down better than the RE RE comps...

nG

iamamp3pimp
06-14-2006, 10:33 PM
that says a lot, because i have the RE RE Comps sounding **** good right about now

springy101
06-14-2006, 10:42 PM
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=260-144

would these work good with it?

iamamp3pimp
06-14-2006, 10:51 PM
work good with what?

springy101
06-14-2006, 10:53 PM
work good with what?
the AA mids and the arbitor tweeter, or any other tweeter, or have you started talking about something else in the last few pages?

adio
06-14-2006, 11:06 PM
AA Mids are hands down better than the RE RE comps...

nG
really?? wow, i thought the RE's would be better just becuse it's RE

iamamp3pimp
06-14-2006, 11:17 PM
the AA mids and the arbitor tweeter, or any other tweeter, or have you started talking about something else in the last few pages?

The high pass crossover frequency is rated for an 8 ohm load.

if its not an 8 ohm, tweet, then i wouldnt do it.

PollyCranopolis
06-15-2006, 11:58 AM
Ok, So ima order a set of these and start gettin the civic setup for active. Gona run these off a RF851x 4 channel and 880prs. As for my 2 15's, ima take 1 out, build a custom box for one, and worry about a sub amp after all this other sheet is taken care of. Found that peal n' seal at Lowe's. **** that stuff is thin. Prob take 2-3 layers. At $14 for a 6inch by 25ft roll, not exactly cheap either so i'll prob cave and pick up some rammat. One of you guys said you had some good crossover points for this set to start from? I'd appreciate a hitup re.

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