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bumpin_blazer
05-24-2006, 06:31 PM
Considering putting one of these on my 5.2L dakota, was wondering if anyone could give me good or bad words about it?

bumpin_blazer
05-24-2006, 10:47 PM
a lil' help?

Alpine CDA-9815
05-24-2006, 11:46 PM
No it's not worth it IMO.

All I think it does is bump up timing a little so you have to run 91-93 oct gas (don't take my word for it). You'll gain maybe 5HP from it, money would be better spent on something else.

netherland24
05-24-2006, 11:48 PM
Dont WASTE ur money... its carp

HP= Money = Time= powa

bumpin_blazer
05-24-2006, 11:51 PM
then recommend something that would be better lol. i'm looking to not have to rip into the engine yet and do anything major as of now. as of now i've got headers, custom y-pipe and 3" full down to a flowmaster 40 series. Ordered a new CAI and getting a throttle body off a 02' r/t dakota friday. i'm looking for easier mods that i can always take off and or re-sell. after all this is done next step is the supercharger.

netherland24
05-24-2006, 11:55 PM
short ram intake?
nice spark plugs
new spark plug wiring.
cold air intake
nice oil
premium gas
u got headers
exhuast
suspension
shocks
performance brakes
KandN filter
new battery
umm keep up with maintaince

bumpin_blazer
05-24-2006, 11:57 PM
all but the CAI(cold air intake) and brake's i have lol. then again brake's don't help much with performance at least not in how i use em' which i hardly race. i think i might find a nice carbon hood though and ditch some weight next.

dru
05-24-2006, 11:59 PM
only kind of electronic upgrades you'll need are fuel management units and that's only if you have aftermarket parts installed

netherland24
05-24-2006, 11:59 PM
all but the CAI(cold air intake) and brake's i have lol. then again brake's don't help much with performance at least not in how i use em' which i hardly race. i think i might find a nice carbon hood though and ditch some weight next.

PLEASE DONT DoO THIS... wtf u got a SUV that weights 2 times my car... and its american not a jap car. DONT try to "trick" it out... please dont.

just do some basic stuff, hae u replaced struts? springs? shocks? brake pads? Rotors? tires what kind do u have?

bumpin_blazer
05-25-2006, 12:06 AM
tires are going gone soon as i'm trying to go with some 20"s b/c as i said i'm not racing all the time, race tires come later this year with the supercharger and such. the only reason i'd do the cf hood is it'd save me a lot of weight and i found one that looked nice. if my truck weighs double what your car weighs then you have one light *** car as it only weighs 3500 pounds.

netherland24
05-25-2006, 12:09 AM
i got 2 cars
:) 01 camry...
and im picking up a 92 Honda civic hatchback... so yeah its pretty light easy too mod

Alpine CDA-9815
05-25-2006, 12:09 AM
Look into some suspension work since you already got an exhaust. If you are going to get a SC later you'll need it.

bumpin_blazer
05-25-2006, 12:17 AM
i got 2 cars
:) 01 camry...
and im picking up a 92 Honda civic hatchback... so yeah its pretty light easy too mod

curb weigh on that camry is 3120 so you're 400lbs lighter, and on that 92 hatch it's about 2300 so you've got me by 1200 there. again, that ain't half nor anywhere near;). dakota's aren't horribly heavy which is the only reason i'd bother making it faster.

bumpin_blazer
05-25-2006, 12:17 AM
Look into some suspension work since you already got an exhaust. If you are going to get a SC later you'll need it.

any specific suggestions? i've got an itchy credit card tonight lol.

Alpine CDA-9815
05-25-2006, 01:53 AM
any specific suggestions? i've got an itchy credit card tonight lol.
You know I could use some new BFG DR's for the goat? :D

Depends on what you want to do. Interested in lowering it some? Some of the first things I like to do/look into is new tires, sway bars, shocks and maybe springs.

If I were you I would look into sway bars first (you said something about tires up there). Then if you want to lower it I would look into doing that and new shocks. I'm using Hotchkis is a brand I would suggest.

bumpin_blazer
05-25-2006, 02:14 AM
i'd drop if i could but i need 30" clearance for the rims i want to get;). i'm going with 20"s which people keep arguing "the weight gets rid of all the upgrade's you've done power wise" and i tell them to go weight their 16" alloy dakota wheels with a full size good tire lol. i've weighed both and it's like 20lb per tire heavier to do the 20"s. so no lowering just need a better more stable right, that and my front left end barks at me on turns/bumps:(.

Alpine CDA-9815
05-25-2006, 08:58 PM
i'd drop if i could but i need 30" clearance for the rims i want to get;). i'm going with 20"s which people keep arguing "the weight gets rid of all the upgrade's you've done power wise" and i tell them to go weight their 16" alloy dakota wheels with a full size good tire lol. i've weighed both and it's like 20lb per tire heavier to do the 20"s. so no lowering just need a better more stable right, that and my front left end barks at me on turns/bumps:(.
Lighter wheels will help you go faster/quicker :). I got the cheapest/lightest wheels I could find for my car that I could get ASAP.

rick22
05-25-2006, 10:33 PM
first off dont throw the electronics out of the equation just yet i dont know much about trucks but i do know that there are many electronic programmers that r like 100-400 bucks, takes 15 minutes to hook up, and adds like 35-50 percent more torque and hp. i may be thinking about diesels but have seen the trucks with them in action and they have been proven effective. as for the product your talking about i have no clue what it is. also with all teh stuff you have done you should flash your computer or go get it dynoed to get the most potential from the things youve already done.

bumpin_blazer
05-25-2006, 11:54 PM
yeah i'm really needing a dyno asap just i can't find a shop in town that'll do it for none customer's without charging out the ***:(

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:06 AM
i love my superchips programmer. very simple and straight forward. very reliable.

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:08 AM
first off dont throw the electronics out of the equation just yet i dont know much about trucks but i do know that there are many electronic programmers that r like 100-400 bucks, takes 15 minutes to hook up, and adds like 35-50 percent more torque and hp. i may be thinking about diesels but have seen the trucks with them in action and they have been proven effective. as for the product your talking about i have no clue what it is. also with all teh stuff you have done you should flash your computer or go get it dynoed to get the most potential from the things youve already done.

diesels benefit much more from programming than a gas motor does. diesels are more retarded (not like a retard) in a few ways to keep warrenty claims down with the dealers.

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:09 AM
i'd drop if i could but i need 30" clearance for the rims i want to get;). i'm going with 20"s which people keep arguing "the weight gets rid of all the upgrade's you've done power wise" and i tell them to go weight their 16" alloy dakota wheels with a full size good tire lol. i've weighed both and it's like 20lb per tire heavier to do the 20"s. so no lowering just need a better more stable right, that and my front left end barks at me on turns/bumps:(.

i went from a stock 29" tire (i think) with a stock 17" rim to a 35" tire with a chromed 17" rim. big diff, especially since it screws with the gearing and shift points.

bumpin_blazer
05-26-2006, 12:11 AM
yeah i'm going from a 16" rim with 33" tires to a 20" rim with 29.7" tires. so the tires will be smaller in size so again i still think dropping it 2" all around would be tight. what chip did you use bri487?

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:13 AM
yeah i'm going from a 16" rim with 33" tires to a 20" rim with 29.7" tires. so the tires will be smaller in size so again i still think dropping it 2" all around would be tight. what chip did you use bri487?

you had 33"s? stock setup tire/susp? i used a superchips programmer for all 04-05 gm v8's (4.8,5.3,6.0,8.3 or 8.1 cant remember, prob more)

Expy2K
05-26-2006, 12:16 AM
Superchips or Edge..


I am starting to like the Edge Evolution units a hella lot..



:)

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:19 AM
Superchips or Edge..


I am starting to like the Edge Evolution units a hella lot..



:)

people other than californian's shouldnt say hella.

examples:
I am hella starting to like the edge..........
i am starting to like the edge evolution units hella.....
i hella like the edge...........

you just got hella schooled on hella.

bumpin_blazer
05-26-2006, 12:22 AM
you had 33"s? stock setup tire/susp? i used a superchips programmer for all 04-05 gm v8's (4.8,5.3,6.0,8.3 or 8.1 cant remember, prob more)

twas wrong, 31"s according to the website of the tire company.

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:24 AM
they might be 30"s not totally sure to be honest lol. never really paid any attention to them and my dad bought them when the truck was his.

there arent hella cars/trucks out there that come with 33" tires stock. the only one that i can think of that is close to a 33" tire is the h2 and it is a hella big tire for a stock suv.

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:25 AM
twas wrong, 31"s according to the website of the tire company.

ahh, cause 33"s seemed hella too big.

bumpin_blazer
05-26-2006, 12:28 AM
well i'd sure hope the superchips/edge evolutions work given they cost 400 bucks or so. average of 10% hp so i'd gain 25ish and 13% torque so i'd gain 40ish torque. is that actually feasable or is that more marketing bs?

bri487
05-26-2006, 12:31 AM
well i'd sure hope the superchips/edge evolutions work given they cost 400 bucks or so. average of 10% hp so i'd gain 25ish and 13% torque so i'd gain 40ish torque. is that actually feasable or is that more marketing bs?

i noticed a slight increase in the snappiness of throttle response. it isnt significant, but noticeable. the thing that is super cool, is i can correct my speedo, since i have 35"s, and when i re-gear the thing, i can correct for that. you just tell it what gears and what size tire you have. simple as that. and also changing shift points is awesome.

bumpin_blazer
05-26-2006, 01:14 AM
is yours a chip or an actual power contrule programmer? chips seem to be cheaper but don't as good a job and then programmer's actually let you custom tune your car.

bri487
05-26-2006, 01:17 AM
is yours a chip or an actual power contrule programmer? chips seem to be cheaper but don't as good a job and then programmer's actually let you custom tune your car.

i have a programmer.

bumpin_blazer
05-26-2006, 01:26 AM
apparently superchips doesn't make a programmer for my dakota they started em' for 98' so i'm thinking of going with hypertech. anyone have any good use of it or bad use?

bri487
05-26-2006, 01:27 AM
apparently superchips doesn't make a programmer for my dakota they started em' for 98' so i'm thinking of going with hypertech. anyone have any good use of it or bad use?

hypertech is the other one i was going to consider buying. take a look at the options to see what it does, then compare it to the others. all of them are pretty reliable.

bumpin_blazer
05-26-2006, 01:33 AM
it seems like the hypertech is about the most vague on details:(. i'm still deciding though, drop 300 on a programmer gain 15hp and 30torque, according to the company or.....................

bri487
05-26-2006, 03:37 AM
it seems like the hypertech is about the most vague on details:(. i'm still deciding though, drop 300 on a programmer gain 15hp and 30torque, according to the company or.....................

mine is well worth the money. but if you are running stock sized tires, i dont see any reason too really have one. you dont gain huge performance gains, but if you were looking for performance in a stock motor, all of those things add up in the end. the only thing i saw besides the whole tuning to compensate for my tires, was my ability to compensate and correct the speedo for my future upgrades. even though gas milage was better, it was minimal.

Alpine CDA-9815
05-26-2006, 08:29 PM
I dunno if you can find someone to do a dyno tune on your truck but if you can do it. I wouldn't waste $300-450 on a programmer that will give you like 10hp and 15tq IMO while I can get a dyno tune done for the same price which will be much better.

bri487
05-29-2006, 03:49 AM
I dunno if you can find someone to do a dyno tune on your truck but if you can do it. I wouldn't waste $300-450 on a programmer that will give you like 10hp and 15tq IMO while I can get a dyno tune done for the same price which will be much better.

a programmer allows flexability though. i tune occasionally based on what i am doing. i tuned it today based on the fact that i had a three hour drive through the mountains.

Alpine CDA-9815
05-29-2006, 07:33 PM
a programmer allows flexability though. i tune occasionally based on what i am doing. i tuned it today based on the fact that i had a three hour drive through the mountains.
I don't see why you would have to tune it cuz you were driving through the mountians IMO. A programmer will give you no where near the performance that a dyno tune will. I would never waste my money on a programmer.

bri487
05-29-2006, 08:59 PM
I don't see why you would have to tune it cuz you were driving through the mountians IMO. A programmer will give you no where near the performance that a dyno tune will. I would never waste my money on a programmer.

you can change how it shifts, fan turn on and turn off temps, etc... when you have 35"s on a truck with stock gears in it, shift points are critcal when driving through the mountains because if you leave them stock your transmission will build up tons of heat hunting for gears.

Alpine CDA-9815
05-31-2006, 11:19 PM
you can change how it shifts, fan turn on and turn off temps, etc... when you have 35"s on a truck with stock gears in it, shift points are critcal when driving through the mountains because if you leave them stock your transmission will build up tons of heat hunting for gears.
Tranny cooler $50 :)

bri487
06-01-2006, 01:38 AM
Tranny cooler $50 :)

still wont stop it from hunting for gears. heat isnt my problem, it is a result from my problem.

bumpin_blazer
06-01-2006, 02:04 AM
not that it matters but, i already decided against performance for a bit and opted to order a 2/3.5" drop and ordering rims soon.

bri487
06-01-2006, 02:06 AM
not that it matters but, i already decided against performance for a bit and opted to order a 2/3.5" drop and ordering rims soon.

cool, i think you will be happier with a bigger change like that. a programmer is something you do once you are done with all the big stuff anyway.

bumpin_blazer
06-01-2006, 02:13 AM
well after the rims comes performance. i have enough that i could spend 600-700 a month on this stuff but i'm saving right now for the rims/lowering kit/wedding. so by years end it'll be, 5.9L 01' r/t engine fully bored, either single turbo or supercharger, and 100 shot of nos. obviously the other main performance mods too but i'm hoping for 600whp by years end:D. it'll be a strictly show truck by then though.

bri487
06-01-2006, 02:16 AM
well after the rims comes performance. i have enough that i could spend 600-700 a month on this stuff but i'm saving right now for the rims/lowering kit/wedding. so by years end it'll be, 5.9L 01' r/t engine fully bored, either single turbo or supercharger, and 100 shot of nos. obviously the other main performance mods too but i'm hoping for 600whp by years end:D. it'll be a strictly show truck by then though.

600 is a lot to ask. you better be doing more than bolting parts on. you better go through and make that thing bullet proof. i would go with a supercharger, unless you tow something.

bumpin_blazer
06-01-2006, 02:19 AM
figure the stock r/t engine has about 230 at the wheels stock and with the right combo of supercharger or turbo and nos, that'll put it at 450-500 with that so it can be done. again though when/if it gets to that, it'll only go for shows nothing else.

bri487
06-01-2006, 02:21 AM
figure the stock r/t engine has about 230 at the wheels stock and with the right combo of supercharger or turbo and nos, that'll put it at 450-500 with that so it can be done. again though when/if it gets to that, it'll only go for shows nothing else.

you need to do a lot more to run a supercharger and nos on a stock motor.

bumpin_blazer
06-01-2006, 02:24 AM
won't be a stock r/t motor trust me;).

Alpine CDA-9815
06-01-2006, 09:07 PM
you need to do a lot more to run a supercharger and nos on a stock motor.
Stock drivetrain wouldn't hold up either.

bri487
06-01-2006, 11:13 PM
Stock drivetrain wouldn't hold up either.

i think it would be ok, unless he is running drag tires or something with a lot of grip.

bumpin_blazer
06-01-2006, 11:44 PM
the 600hp is mostly a dream but it might happen depending on what goes on this summer with my stock and such. if i go down that road then i'll end up doing all that needs to be done.

sniper007
06-02-2006, 04:12 PM
i wanna see some pics of ur truck when its done, should be a monster.

bumpin_blazer
06-02-2006, 07:33 PM
i can give ya pics now but there's nothing done to it beside's headlights and tail lights.