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thylantyr
05-19-2006, 05:18 PM
http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/discuss.cgi?read=379641


The sound of a real orchestra

Posted By: Keith Taylor <kandmtaylor@bigpond.com> (124.178.196.87)
Date: 5/19 4:13p.m.

I have just come home after going to an orchestral concert in Adelaide Town Hall. Although I have recently been to choral and chamber orchestra concerts, it would be two or three years since the last orchestral concert.

Being a recording and general audio enthusiast I often muse about the differences between home playback and the real thing. I had a reasonable seat in the balcony that was off centre but did not skew the balance too much. The program had Wagner's Parsifal Prelude, Samuel Barber's violin concerto and Elgar's second symphony.

One thing that struck me was how seriously loud much of the music was. The next was how inadequate two speaker stereo and phantom sources are in rendering the sound field. In my recording experience I have often wondered how people can talk about "precision imaging" and the idea that you can point to a performer in a playback situation. I have found that in listening to vocal groups etc rehearsing while setting up microphones I am struck by the many and varied directions the sounds come from. About the only sounds that have any consistency in direction are transients such as vocal consonants and instrument key and valve sounds.

Perhaps the overwhelming impression of the real life spatial presentation is how directionaly democratic it all is. Think of a direction and the chances are there are sounds arriving from there. People who have heard periphony (surround sound with a height aspect) wax lyrical about the improvement, and I can see why. While waiting for the next big thing such as a periphonic version of wave field synthesis! I am wondering if we could hang some diffusors from the ceiling just ahead of the listening position to give us some sound from above. The trouble is we are going to need more delay than the dimensions of a domestic listening room can provide. For those who have not done so Ralph Glasgal's Ambiosonics Institute is well worth a visit at the link below.


:popcorn:

PV Audio
05-21-2006, 09:43 AM
I get it, but I don't get what you're getting at? Or is this just another one of Thy's info articles :cool:

thylantyr
05-21-2006, 12:26 PM
Don't know how many times I heard "you're crazy for cranking loud music", yet
nobody goes to an orchestral concert and says "your're crazy for playing loud
music".

Decipha
05-21-2006, 01:08 PM
its kind of hard to play music low when your in a big theatre

ballstothewall
05-21-2006, 06:29 PM
Loud music does rock :peace:

Whoa, Lemans is back!

SAG3
05-21-2006, 06:32 PM
O 4 Rl

Pyro_By_Nature
05-21-2006, 06:33 PM
Loud music does rock :peace:

Amen to that!

If you like quiet music, stay at home and watch it/listen to it over your tv.

joetama
05-21-2006, 10:04 PM
Loud music is fine as long as it doesn't get so loud you lose intelligibility... Which anything around 120+ at your ear does.

ballstothewall
05-21-2006, 10:25 PM
Which anything around 120+ at your ear does.

*Thinks about the vid of Thy's line array...*

ngsm13
05-21-2006, 10:43 PM
*Thinks about the vid of Thy's line array...*

Ghey.

nG

PV Audio
05-23-2006, 07:31 AM
Loud music does rock :peace:

Whoa, Lemans is back!
Back and still black.

I do like loud music only because it allows you to see whether or not the speaker can handle it. Once you reach overexcursion (I'm talking full range cones here), it just sounds like someone rippin the **** outta their ***.

Pyro_By_Nature
05-23-2006, 07:49 AM
Back and still black.

I do like loud music only because it allows you to see whether or not the speaker can handle it. Once you reach overexcursion (I'm talking full range cones here), it just sounds like someone rippin the **** outta their ***.


Please, please, please do not tell me you listen to loud music only for the sole purpose of testing speakers.

JimJ
05-23-2006, 11:16 AM
I get it, but I don't get what you're getting at? Or is this just another one of Thy's info articles :cool:

I don't get it, this must be one of Lemans' useless and unneeded posts?

joetama
05-23-2006, 12:05 PM
I don't get it, this must be one of Lemans' useless and unneeded posts?

I would say almost all of his posts are useless and unneeded just like the person who posted them....

ngsm13
05-23-2006, 12:47 PM
I would say almost all of his posts are useless and unneeded just like the person who posted them....

Lawl...

nG

PV Audio
05-23-2006, 06:58 PM
Please, please, please do not tell me you listen to loud music only for the sole purpose of testing speakers.
No, I didn't mean that :).

When I listen to music (since I don't actually have a place to listen besides my bedroom), I usually play it loud because I like it loud. However, for testing, playing the music until it distorts is the best way for me to tell how much they can take.

ballstothewall
05-23-2006, 07:20 PM
I would say almost all of his posts are useless and unneeded just like the person who posted them....

Made me lol.

PV Audio
05-23-2006, 07:52 PM
Made me :mad:.

joetama
05-23-2006, 07:55 PM
Made me :mad:.

Well if you pulled your head out of your anus sometimes then I wouldn't have to say stuff like that.... :thumbupw:

PV Audio
05-23-2006, 08:34 PM
Where the **** did that come from?