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PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 01:02 PM
Okay, well as most know the box didnt go well with JordanTyler. So I am building my own box. It will come out to about 6 cubes net tuned to 36Hz with ~90 sq inches of port area :) So far everything is good, I am almost complete, as you can see in the pictures. I bought myself a set of corner clamps and they help a hell of a lot...

Also, I got my wood cut at Home Depot and slipped the guy a five dollar bill with the cutlist; he made perfect cuts :naughty: I was very pleased, there is one thats off by about an eighth of an inch, but its not a big deal, it is a side piece that just extends past the bottom panel.

Front View (on its side):

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8581/pict00011xp.jpg

Internal:

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/7489/pict00021xe.jpg

Port Opening:

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/3845/pict00038bz.jpg

Bottom View:

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4585/pict00040mz.jpg


I still need to cut the sub cutout (which is an 18" TC 4HP) and cut the hole for the terminal cup, but I cant find my compass so I need to take a trip to WalMart really quick...

I am also planning to lay down a few layers of fiberglass on the interior.



:)

Pyro_By_Nature
05-03-2006, 01:04 PM
Looks good, a lot better than that pos box you were going to get from her lol.

revrider1
05-03-2006, 01:05 PM
Okay, well as most know the box didnt go well with JordanTyler. So I am building my own box. It will come out to about 6 cubes net tuned to 36Hz with ~90 sq inches of port area :) So far everything is good, I am almost complete, as you can see in the pictures. I bought myself a set of corner clamps and they help a hell of a lot...

Also, I got my wood cut at Home Depot and slipped the guy a five dollar bill with the cutlist; he made perfect cuts :naughty: I was very pleased, there is one thats off by about an eighth of an inch, but its not a big deal, it is a side piece that just extends past the bottom panel.

Front View (on its side):

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8581/pict00011xp.jpg

Internal:

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/7489/pict00021xe.jpg

Port Opening:

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/3845/pict00038bz.jpg

Bottom View:

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4585/pict00040mz.jpg


I still need to cut the sub cutout (which is an 18" TC 4HP) and cut the hole for the terminal cup, but I cant find my compass so I need to take a trip to WalMart really quick...

I am also planning to lay down a few layers of fiberglass on the interior.



:)Does that work:eyebrow: , s**t I may try that, instead of cutting my own.

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 01:07 PM
Does that work:eyebrow: , s**t I may try that, instead of cutting my own.
Yeah, I had my cut list written out on a sticky paper and had the five stuck to the back.

I hope to finish it completely tomorrow, not sure if I am going to cover it yet. I still need to get my alt from Mean Green before I can put everything in.

Pyro_By_Nature
05-03-2006, 01:09 PM
BTW: Just make your own jig to do the circle and terminal cut-out.

Just grab a piece of cardboard big enough, or a spare thin strip of wood.Drill at hole at one end, find the middle of everything.Mark where you want to put the sub, drill a hole and screw your jig down, but not so tight it won't go in the circle.Measure from the center of the screw and punch a hole at half the diameter of the cut-out that you want to do, insert pencil and go all the way around.

Should give you a perfect circle :)

ramos
05-03-2006, 01:11 PM
^ that works, can also use a flat piece of scrap and drill holes in it :)

revrider1
05-03-2006, 01:12 PM
Yeah, I had my cut list written out on a sticky paper and had the five stuck to the back.

I hope to finish it completely tomorrow, not sure if I am going to cover it yet. I still need to get my alt from Mean Green before I can put everything in.Pretty slick, I may have to try that. I have a table saw, but am sometimes to lazy to go to my work and use it.

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 01:12 PM
I think I'll give that a try, I'll let you know how it works out.

Thanks.

revrider1
05-03-2006, 01:13 PM
BTW: Just make your own jig to do the circle and terminal cut-out.

Just grab a piece of cardboard big enough, or a spare thin strip of wood.Drill at hole at one end, find the middle of everything.Mark where you want to put the sub, drill a hole and screw your jig down, but not so tight it won't go in the circle.Measure from the center of the screw and punch a hole at half the diameter of the cut-out that you want to do, insert pencil and go all the way around.

Should give you a perfect circle :)That is what I do, works perfect

Pyro_By_Nature
05-03-2006, 01:15 PM
^ that works, can also use a flat piece of scrap and drill holes in it :)


Yep, I have several laying around.About 2" x 18" x 3/4" that have a bunch of holes drilled and marked.Works great.

iceteebone
05-03-2006, 01:18 PM
hmmm i'll have to try the jig. i always do it free hand

MrSector9
05-03-2006, 01:20 PM
free hand circles :)

i used the homeade jig thing too. I want a router wiiht the circle jig attachment thoguhf or pretty circles.

dbhittin
05-03-2006, 01:23 PM
i free hand my circles lol..

spudracer326
05-03-2006, 01:28 PM
jasper jig ftw!!!

TypeRBass
05-03-2006, 01:37 PM
jasper jig ftw!!!
!!!

Pyro_By_Nature
05-03-2006, 01:51 PM
Jasper jig = $40

Scrap MDF = free :confused:

~Magick_Man~
05-03-2006, 01:59 PM
Jasper jig = $40

Scrap MDF = free :confused:

true but getting any size hole you want in 1/16" increments up to 18" is worth the $40 :D

~Magick_Man~

Meka
05-03-2006, 02:04 PM
Hopefully you can get this one loud.

HAVINGFUN
05-03-2006, 02:04 PM
true but getting any size hole you want in 1/16" increments up to 18" is worth the $40 :D

~Magick_Man~

Jasper kicks a_s

lilmaniac2
05-03-2006, 02:12 PM
i like drawing an x from the corners and then putting a screw in the middle with a piece of string attached to it....

James Bang
05-03-2006, 02:38 PM
even if I slipped a Home depot a $100 bill they still wouldn't be able to give me perfect cuts.... their saw is all jacked up. It'll start out accurate, but not at the end. Lame ****. It doesn't cut a perfect vertical cut. /

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 03:30 PM
I just layed a layer of glass down, feelin kinda buzzed :uhoh:

I got the holes cut and all, I used the scrap wood idea and it worked perfectly, thanks Mountain Man :D

I should be done today, as long as the resin dries fairly quickly and I can put the top on.

bustaplz
05-03-2006, 05:08 PM
Anyone know how to make a homemade jasper jig? I bought a router but can't figure it out.

lilmaniac2
05-03-2006, 05:12 PM
cant make a homemade jasper jig... u use the homemade compas to draw a circle then use a jigsaw to cut it out :)

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 05:33 PM
Well, she's all done :D

I will get pics up in a little bit.

I cant wait to get this in, I just got a Jeep 2dr Cherokee and I am hoping it gets insanely loud...

springy101
05-03-2006, 05:44 PM
so instead of just making your box by yourself in the first place in less than a day you had to go through the whole jordantyler deal. did you not have enough confidence in yourself to do it right or what?

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 05:49 PM
so instead of just making your box by yourself in the first place in less than a day you had to go through the whole jordantyler deal. did you not have enough confidence in yourself to do it right or what?
Yup, my previous boxes were less than average, and never assembled properly (e.g. port walls always crooked, gaps, just no good)... So I decided to get a set of corner clamps and take my time, I pre drilled every hole (never done that before) and did everything correctly.

Needless to say, I am proud of what I have done.

psych0ticnemes1
05-03-2006, 05:55 PM
Hey, good work tony... you'll get better the more you do it... but don't be surprised if yours falls apart too lol... that sub is ridiculous... mine was double baffled and screwed n glued to no end... good luck

SAG3
05-03-2006, 05:59 PM
no double baffle for a hundred pound sub?

guy022077
05-03-2006, 06:09 PM
glad you got ythis thing going....get to boomin dude......i hope you double baffle it and build a little carriage for the back of the sub so the front isnt supporting all the weight

Safe-N-Sound215
05-03-2006, 06:24 PM
Glad to hear, that after all of the trouble you with jordantyler, your finally gonna have a box for your 18. And thanks for your info on the front baffle height issue on my box. hope your sub wangs, you deserve it after what you went through;)




:patrioti:

adio
05-03-2006, 06:50 PM
tone, ur a beast

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 10:58 PM
no double baffle for a hundred pound sub?
It isnt 100lbs, its right around 70.

And my last enclosure that I built for it was a single baffle as well and it did fine for the month that I had it.

Pyro_By_Nature
05-03-2006, 11:20 PM
People like miss-spelling my name to annoy me now :p:

I'll sit quietly and wait for new pics.

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-03-2006, 11:24 PM
More pics :D

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/6505/pict00054ai.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/6230/pict00077tk.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/1730/pict00087hx.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1126/pict00092qg.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/4320/pict00107gs.jpg



So what do you guys think? Its not the prettiest, but it is pretty solid. I layed three layers of resin down on every interior surface. I am unsure about carpet right now, Wal Mart was out and I dont want to order from somewhere.

SAG3
05-04-2006, 02:47 AM
looks mean.

SAG3
05-04-2006, 02:47 AM
People like miss-spelling my name to annoy me now :p:

I'll sit quietly and wait for new pics.
get used to it.

ssj2xxgotenxx
05-04-2006, 02:55 AM
More pics :D

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/6505/pict00054ai.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/6230/pict00077tk.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/1730/pict00087hx.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1126/pict00092qg.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/4320/pict00107gs.jpg



So what do you guys think? Its not the prettiest, but it is pretty solid. I layed three layers of resin down on every interior surface. I am unsure about carpet right now, Wal Mart was out and I dont want to order from somewhere.

Black Cats FTW!

Pyro_By_Nature
05-04-2006, 02:57 AM
get used to it.

I already have.

snoopdan
05-04-2006, 03:06 AM
That sub looks familiar :naughty:

Are you going to get it on the Termlab anytime soon, id be interested to see what your little box puts up for numbers with that sub (since as a comparision, im doing 151.6 top score with mine)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/4hpback.jpg

also how weird....I also have a Powerbass 3000 sitting on my floor, if i wanted to i could exactly duplicate your setup! :p

ramos
05-04-2006, 08:11 AM
More pics :D

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/6505/pict00054ai.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/6230/pict00077tk.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/1730/pict00087hx.jpg

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1126/pict00092qg.jpg

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/4320/pict00107gs.jpg



So what do you guys think? Its not the prettiest, but it is pretty solid. I layed three layers of resin down on every interior surface. I am unsure about carpet right now, Wal Mart was out and I dont want to order from somewhere.

Looks pretty good, should done that in the first place ;)
Are you aiming to compete or just street beat ? If competing you should of waited to do the resining. It helps most of the time, but sometimes it hurts. :)

ramos
05-04-2006, 08:13 AM
i like drawing an x from the corners and then putting a screw in the middle with a piece of string attached to it....


Before the jig. I used to do the same thing, except I would us a flat scrap instead of string. Never failed, the string would stretch some where and fook me over :D :)

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 08:58 AM
That sub looks familiar :naughty:

Are you going to get it on the Termlab anytime soon, id be interested to see what your little box puts up for numbers with that sub (since as a comparision, im doing 151.6 top score with mine)

also how weird....I also have a Powerbass 3000 sitting on my floor, if i wanted to i could exactly duplicate your setup! :p
We even have the same vehicle...

I do not plan on competing with this, just a daily vehicle.

And what size is your box, this is the biggest one I have used with this driver, I hope to gain more low end this time..

ramos
05-04-2006, 09:11 AM
We even have the same vehicle...

I do not plan on competing with this, just a daily vehicle.

And what size is your box, this is the biggest one I have used with this driver, I hope to gain more low end this time..


Cool, just checking my man, just checking :)

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 12:46 PM
Someone wanna check the tuning for me? It is right on 5.5 cubes net, the port is 15.5" tall x 6" wide and 22" long; I got 36Hz in WinISD, just wanna confirm it...

ramos
05-04-2006, 01:14 PM
I get a little over 24" for 36hz. Let me check my math again. :)

ramos
05-04-2006, 01:16 PM
Okay with your lengths I get a little over 37hz. If your not chasing tenths. I doubt you will notice any difference to the ear. :)

revrider1
05-04-2006, 01:20 PM
I guess your cats like to take pics.

snoopdan
05-04-2006, 01:23 PM
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/boxtwo.jpg

This is the SQL box I designed for the 4hp....ive not had a chance to try it yet, but i'll let ya know how it does :D

joetama
05-04-2006, 01:30 PM
OMG put one of the cats in the box turn the **** up and see if they get blown out of the port!!!

revrider1
05-04-2006, 01:31 PM
OMG put one of the cats in the box turn the **** up and see if they get blown out of the port!!!I was going to suggest that as well, but thought of the outcome :eyebrow: :crap: .

CJL
05-04-2006, 01:39 PM
OMG put one of the cats in the box turn the **** up and see if they get blown out of the port!!!

LMAO :hilariou: I gotta put that in my sig! :)

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 02:03 PM
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/boxtwo.jpg

This is the SQL box I designed for the 4hp....ive not had a chance to try it yet, but i'll let ya know how it does :D
Looks awsome man, what are the specs on it?

And thanks Ramos, 37Hz is fine with me :)

psych0ticnemes1
05-04-2006, 02:05 PM
good work tony... hope it doesn't blow up :)

nVRuckus
05-04-2006, 02:15 PM
Someone wanna check the tuning for me? It is right on 5.5 cubes net, the port is 15.5" tall x 6" wide and 22" long; I got 36Hz in WinISD, just wanna confirm it...
winisd does not calculate the port volume into the equation so you actually have to calculate the port displacement and remove it from the box's cubes to get acurate tuning. probably didnt take your subs displacement out either.

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 03:15 PM
Here it is, I decided to carpet after all..

You cant see it, but the back is grey :crap: I got two different color rolls of carpet, without realizing it, and didnt feel like going back to Wal Mart. Doesnt matter though, you wont see it when its installed :)

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8754/pict00138el.jpg

Chevillac
05-04-2006, 03:22 PM
Damm son, looks good. Now I really wonder why you didnt just do it yourself in the first place.

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 03:23 PM
Damm son, looks good. Now I really wonder why you didnt just do it yourself in the first place.
Thanks a lot man :)

I really should have done it myself the first time around, would have saved a lot of time and money... :crap:

vetkilr
05-04-2006, 03:35 PM
Great lookin box Man and you got it done quick and dont have to worry about it being Screwd up

disturbed_cbr
05-04-2006, 03:51 PM
Im curious whats the black around the port for??? Smooth box man its a fat girl for sure.

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 03:51 PM
Im curious whats the black around the port for??? Smooth box man its a fat girl for sure.
What black around the port? The spray paint?

Chevillac
05-04-2006, 05:34 PM
I was confused as well. I think he means the spray paint.

PV Audio
05-04-2006, 06:02 PM
The spray paint is a tried and true method for SPL competetors. The enzymes in most commercial spray paints create a thin layer of resin when they interact with the glue in the MDF which considerably smooths the air flow and usually gains around 2 decibels.

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 06:03 PM
The spray paint is a tried and true method for SPL competetors. The enzymes in most commercial spray paints create a thin layer of resin when they interact with the glue in the MDF which considerably smooths the air flow and usually gains around 2 decibels.
:eyebrow: Really?...

jujumantb
05-04-2006, 06:06 PM
:eyebrow: Really?...
no ***

vetkilr
05-04-2006, 06:07 PM
The spray paint is a tried and true method for SPL competetors. The enzymes in most commercial spray paints create a thin layer of resin when they interact with the glue in the MDF which considerably smooths the air flow and usually gains around 2 decibels.
Thats funny as hell:D

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 06:07 PM
no ***
Lick my balls.

jujumantb
05-04-2006, 06:08 PM
Lick my balls.
**** on a gooseclit

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 06:08 PM
**** on a gooseclit
:fyi: Geese dont have clits...

jujumantb
05-04-2006, 06:09 PM
:fyi: Geese dont have clits...
lies

vetkilr
05-04-2006, 06:10 PM
:fyi: Geese dont have clits...


Neither do Ganders:eyebrow:

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 06:12 PM
Neither do Ganders:eyebrow:
Gander = Goose

Back to the box.

jujumantb
05-04-2006, 06:13 PM
The "female phallus" is sometimes referred to as a ********, but it would be equally valid to speak of a "male ********," since the male's
"*****" is not an ejaculatory organ. The genital anatomy exhibits a juxtaposition of "masculine" and "feminine" traits: both sexes possess a *****/******** and also have another genital orifice that doubles as an anus.
suckle on that for awhile

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-04-2006, 06:15 PM
suckle on that for awhile
And that has what to do with geese?...

vetkilr
05-04-2006, 06:23 PM
goose=female
gander=male

Thus "What is good for the goose is good for the gander."

AllStar1500bd
05-04-2006, 06:23 PM
And that has what to do with geese?...I think it has everything to do with geese.

vetkilr
05-04-2006, 06:24 PM
Nice box by the way again..............lol

Post how it sounds, or if you get it meterd.....isnt there a local meet down there soon.

jujumantb
05-04-2006, 06:25 PM
And that has what to do with geese?...
its obviously straight out of the idiots guide to geese genitalia :rolleyes:

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-05-2006, 08:05 PM
Update!!!

The box is now installed:D

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1661/pict00157hz.jpg

It is in a 1995 Jeep Cherokee 2 door :) I just got the Jeep on Sunday, and I'm getting everything installed slowly. I still need to get my HO alt from mean-green and put it in, and I need to make my ground better, and find a way to hide the 0 guage in this PITA...

I have my amp mounted on the fold-down back seat, and sitting next to it is a Yellow Top. I am not having much dimmage right now, so I hope to have none once I get the alt in (but with 3kw we'll see...

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6605/pict00167zj.jpg


The box sounds awsome, its loud as ****. There is no flexing, and its holding together strong :)...

Also, you cant see it in the pics but the headliner is black, so it matches very well.


I still need to secure the enclosure to the floor as well.

mazdakid
05-05-2006, 08:40 PM
That sub looks familiar :naughty:

Are you going to get it on the Termlab anytime soon, id be interested to see what your little box puts up for numbers with that sub (since as a comparision, im doing 151.6 top score with mine)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/4hpback.jpg

also how weird....I also have a Powerbass 3000 sitting on my floor, if i wanted to i could exactly duplicate your setup! :p
kinda looks like the back of my 88 cherokee i just got, my box is just a little bigger for the mt18

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-05-2006, 08:40 PM
Jeep FTW

Worlddre
05-05-2006, 08:44 PM
and yet you paid when you seem to be a quite capable builder glad it all worked out

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-05-2006, 08:47 PM
and yet you paid when you seem to be a quite capable builder glad it all worked out
:wallbash: I know...

954runner
05-05-2006, 08:51 PM
looks nice. my friend has a 2 door as well. running wires in them isnt much of a problem (at least in my friends) because everything is so basic that there are basically no wires to begin with.. but yeah, finding a ground is kinda difficult. if i recall, his was kinda long...

JCivicHb
05-05-2006, 09:46 PM
so what happened when you tried to buy a box from that girl?? link?

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-05-2006, 09:55 PM
so what happened when you tried to buy a box from that girl?? link?
The thread got deleted... It made it to like 2200+ posts :)

Basically, she messed up on the port spacing and had some gaps, and when we pointed it out in the pictures she took she tried to cover it up and lie about it. Then she fought about giving me a refund.

Pyro_By_Nature
05-05-2006, 10:00 PM
Best cliff notes of the situation ^ lol

Did that ever break 150 pages? I know like 400 of my posts are missing now.

And yes, Jeep FTW!

JCivicHb
05-05-2006, 10:04 PM
oh that *****.....new box looks great tho i wish i could carpet that good

mazdakid
05-06-2006, 09:02 AM
so you guys with the jeeps push your boxes all the way to the back til it hits the bottom trim piece also?

Bolognablake
05-06-2006, 09:14 AM
Jeep FTW

Fo Sho.

tiz ry
05-06-2006, 01:32 PM
thats one nice box!! wish i can hear how loud that setup is....

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-06-2006, 07:24 PM
thats one nice box!! wish i can hear how loud that setup is....
Its pretty insane... The lows hit awsome now, many people got out of my car after a couple minutes of a song with low notes. :D

Pop da Hatch
05-06-2006, 07:27 PM
So........................How much did she re-fund?

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-06-2006, 07:30 PM
So........................How much did she re-fund?
So far, $20... She said she will send more when money is transfered into her PayPal. :uhoh:

justinschmiidt
05-07-2006, 03:19 AM
i have a 1992 jeep and for a 0 ga ground i ran it to under the bolt for the rear seat buckles and its worked perfectly for years

mazdakid
05-07-2006, 10:31 AM
for my grounds in the 88 i used the bolts for the back seats and it works with no problems so far

bonesninja
05-07-2006, 10:37 AM
BTW: Just make your own jig to do the circle and terminal cut-out.

Just grab a piece of cardboard big enough, or a spare thin strip of wood.Drill at hole at one end, find the middle of everything.Mark where you want to put the sub, drill a hole and screw your jig down, but not so tight it won't go in the circle.Measure from the center of the screw and punch a hole at half the diameter of the cut-out that you want to do, insert pencil and go all the way around.

Should give you a perfect circle :)
i use a thin 12" ruler...you know..the clear or colored plastic ones...works great

PhatTonyDeMarco
05-07-2006, 12:36 PM
i have a 1992 jeep and for a 0 ga ground i ran it to under the bolt for the rear seat buckles and its worked perfectly for years
I ended up just drilling a hole in the wheel well and bolting it down right there. Seems to be doing fine.

IamDeMan
05-08-2006, 12:54 PM
i always do it free hand:crap: I naturally thought everyone made a jig or used a compass. If you can freehand a perfect circle then I bow to you :bowdown:

iceteebone
05-08-2006, 04:20 PM
:crap: I naturally thought everyone made a jig or used a compass. If you can freehand a perfect circle then I bow to you :bowdown:


never said they were perfect. the sub drops in and all the screw holes have plenty of wood to bite into, and no leaks, so i don't care how it looks