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fakename
04-19-2006, 07:06 PM
ive used wood glue, and caulking. went to test it out and boom, one whole side blows out. air leaking everywhere. any suggestions.

Wowimzz
04-19-2006, 07:08 PM
um, pics? were is the leak, what is the leak on. how long did you let the adhesive dry

djman37
04-19-2006, 07:09 PM
Clean the wood first? straighter cuts? more wood glue?

then onto screws or L-brackets, but straight cuts and wood glue should be enough.

Lil Poot
04-19-2006, 07:30 PM
no ****? lol.... practice makes perfect i suppose. after making all these weird shaped boxes for firebirds and camaros, i could just about do a regular square box with my eyes closed.

3onDubs
04-19-2006, 07:50 PM
Next time, let it sit over night before testing it....lol

JAZN
04-19-2006, 08:05 PM
Next time, let it sit over night before testing it....lol
I'm wondering that too, did you at least let it dry?

fakename
04-19-2006, 08:07 PM
yeah it was dry.

req
04-19-2006, 08:12 PM
how long was it dry for?

i usually let it sit overnight.

3onDubs
04-19-2006, 08:16 PM
Did you use screws at all?

Also, what brands of glue and caulk are you using?

How much of each did you use?

JAZN
04-19-2006, 08:17 PM
clamps?

photocrazy8
04-19-2006, 09:16 PM
pics?

kotec123
04-19-2006, 09:26 PM
yeah it was dry.

:rolleyes:
yea thats y a side blew apart???

let it dry buddy

PV Audio
04-19-2006, 09:43 PM
****** construction > you.

PatFitz9
04-19-2006, 10:20 PM
put some screws through the sides and you shouldn't have any problems... clamps help out too

iamamp3pimp
04-19-2006, 10:24 PM
i cant fathom making a box without screws.

Vincent9515
04-19-2006, 10:41 PM
i cant fathom making a box without screws.

Nails work just as good. Fasteners are only there to hold it until the glue dries.

In fact, I'd say nails are probably better since you're able to get closer to the edge without splitting and they don't squeeze all the glue out of the gap like screws do when tightened down.

djman37
04-19-2006, 10:42 PM
i cant fathom making a box without screws.

don't use ANY

Lil Poot
04-19-2006, 10:46 PM
you've really got to be good to make a box without screws. i wouldnt recommend it for any beginner.

jujumantb
04-19-2006, 10:49 PM
Liquid Nails.
plain old wood glue, not liquid nails...

you could perhaps use liquid nails as a sealant on the inside after construction if you cant make true cuts.

Beat_Dominator
04-19-2006, 10:58 PM
My sealed box has a screw every 2".... yes it was a lot, no it doesn't leak, and no I wont go through the trouble again :laugh:

nissanrider06
04-19-2006, 11:27 PM
wow i would be to embarresed to even post a thread like this, getting a box to hold 2gether was never that hard for me...

PV Audio
04-19-2006, 11:37 PM
Liquid Nails.

Clamp it, let it dry, then screw it together. lol, you coulda run over my first boxes with a monster truck and they wouldve held up. I put a 2.5" drywall screw every 1.5 inches on the box. Used more liquid nails than you could shake a stick at. But I sold it to a friend and it got stolen :( too bad construction wont prevent that.
No. Wood glue (titebond or ProBond). Then clamp it, and use screws half that length every four inches. Don't be dainty with it, but don't overload it. And also don't recommend liquid nails over wood glue as it's not better and is more expensive.

soul05
04-20-2006, 02:13 AM
at my local home depot...liquid nails was actually cheaper than wood glue

iamamp3pimp
04-20-2006, 02:28 AM
liq nails with a caulk gun is the way i roll, with a screw every 5 or 6 inches, and the wayit squeezes al the liq nails out hen you use screws can be a good thing.

all you gotta do is predrill and you dont hae to worry about splitting.

swimfreak26
04-20-2006, 11:02 AM
Wood glue is deffinately the way to go...no need for screws or nails, or anything of the sort.

When you've using glue though, be sure to clamp it. Just letting two pieces sit together may not provide enough force for the chemical bond to form, and instead you'll have a layer of glue between two slabs of wood which is quite easy to break, and appears to be what happened to you.

Clean cuts, wash off the wood (NOT with water, just wipe them off), glue, clamp, wait >30 minutes, move on to the next part of the box, continue, let dry for ~24 hours, then test.

James Bang
04-20-2006, 05:32 PM
x2, but i use screws so I dont' have to wait 30 mines to move on to the next piece.

PV Audio
04-20-2006, 08:31 PM
I'll send you some of my local woodshop's glue :)

It's a mix of titebond II and CA glue and something else. It has the strength of woodglue, but dries like a cyano glue (not in seconds, but like 10 minutes).

joeldirt
04-20-2006, 09:07 PM
Nails work just as good. Fasteners are only there to hold it until the glue dries.

In fact, I'd say nails are probably better since you're able to get closer to the edge without splitting and they don't squeeze all the glue out of the gap like screws do when tightened down.


Dirt agrees... I first size my joints with a thin film of glue, run my finger acrossed it until it smooths out well, and then put the pieces together. I then take them back apart and the glue has mostly absorbed into the wood... Then I put a good thick bead of glue on the joint.... And staple it with my Senco stapler. Typically use 1 1/4" staples This way is the fastest. I also use dado grooves allot.. Sometimes I overcut the lengths of the top/bottom/front/back and flush trim to the sides to eliminate allot of sanding. Holes cut with Jasper circle jig on my Freud plunge router.... By the time I am done with the carpeting... paint... laminate... what ever is done the glue is well dry and box is ready for its subs mounted and played

spudracer326
04-20-2006, 09:14 PM
biskit joiner and wood glue ftw

joeldirt
04-20-2006, 09:17 PM
biskit joiner and wood glue ftw

biscuits work well and provide an extremely strong joint... especially when you are able to double them up. But it still doesnt hold like fasteners do when you are flipping the box arround on its sides and on faces. Still requires clamps.... But still works well. I like to get through the build as quickly as possible. Speed never means that you ahve to sacrifice quality... just find a more efficient way to do a good job fast.