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fakename
04-18-2006, 04:21 PM
i drive a 98 civic ex. first, id like to know what kind of motor i have. 2nd, id like to know what the best motor would be to swap in it. include specs if you can. :D

fakename
04-18-2006, 04:25 PM
you didnt answer my questions.

Lil Poot
04-18-2006, 04:29 PM
502 big block chevy

SofireGuy
04-18-2006, 05:50 PM
He means that w/e you put in it won't matter b/c his car will prolly eat you Civic for breakfast lunch and dinner and crap out the rims after its done....

But seriously ... i would go with a B18 for a civic.... if you had an Accord like me then you could go H22A :naughty: .... but B18 Turboed will work well... you'd smoke the imports in town.....

fakename
04-18-2006, 09:29 PM
He means that w/e you put in it won't matter b/c his car will prolly eat you Civic for breakfast lunch and dinner and crap out the rims after its done....

But seriously ... i would go with a B18 for a civic.... if you had an Accord like me then you could go H22A :naughty: .... but B18 Turboed will work well... you'd smoke the imports in town.....

there are different types of b18's

Showrides
04-18-2006, 09:32 PM
502 big block chevy

I was going to say a Ford 429...Nice pick though.

rick22
04-18-2006, 09:34 PM
throw a h22a in it giving you a nice 13 sec car for fairly cheap

FoxPro5
04-18-2006, 09:35 PM
Wankel rotary ;)

vetkilr
04-18-2006, 09:36 PM
A bottle of diet coke..........................it has 2.0ltrs of displacement and taste good.

99StangGt
04-18-2006, 09:39 PM
A bottle of diet coke..........................it has 2.0ltrs of displacement and taste good.
i would go with Pepsi one but you have a good idea too :D

SAG3
04-18-2006, 09:40 PM
it should say what engine it is on the front of the engine on the right side a little bit down. it will probably say d16.

bonesninja
04-18-2006, 09:44 PM
502 big block chevy
my dad brackets a 69 camaro with a 502.:naughty:

SAG3
04-18-2006, 10:09 PM
had findum?

91lacdeville
04-19-2006, 01:45 AM
ls1 or even a ls2 or even better and ls7

Eugenics
04-19-2006, 02:38 AM
right now you have a d16, which is worthless. you could swap in a b18c5 (itr motor) but that wouldn't be cost effective. i'd go for a b18 either from an ls being as they usually go for cheaper and are great to turbo (forget the specific code) or a b20. of course you can always go for a K block or H block but i dont see the point really. if you're going to spend that much money midas well just buy a real sports car

Eugenics
04-19-2006, 02:38 AM
F20B FTW! if i buy my old accord back i'll definatly drop one in over the H block. more rev happy. and something new

bri487
04-19-2006, 02:47 AM
502 big block chevy

i was about to say LS7.

thehardknoxlife
04-19-2006, 03:01 AM
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/installs/sr20ve/ Goodness lol.

RandyJ
04-19-2006, 08:36 AM
If it's the D16Z6 then they are not so worthless. They can actually be built to decent standards for pretty cheap.

LoudCrownVic
04-19-2006, 10:44 PM
Ford 4.9L Straight Six. Good torque, decent gas mileage, and durable as all hell.

I'd say the Chevy 4.3 is a good motor too but they blow intake gaskets.

Edit... Read original post...

****, that *****. I bet once you take the motor out it will be worth the 5 cent deposit..

10 cents if you take it to minnesota.

Lunchbocks
04-19-2006, 11:08 PM
i'd probably go with an ls-swap, already an improvement but lends itself to becoming ls/vtec which can then be turboed, its a relatively cost effective swap and theres a lot more fun to be had with it. (b18b i think, not 100%)

SAG3
04-19-2006, 11:11 PM
go k20 FTW

dbhittin
04-20-2006, 01:13 AM
LS Vtec is a B18a block with B16 or B18c5 head.. or any b series vtec head... a B20a block with Vtec head is from a crv.. those lil honda suv things.. both require some modifing to work and aren't long lasting motors, but make good power..

SAG3
04-20-2006, 11:23 PM
LS Vtec is a B18a block with B16 or B18c5 head.. or any b series vtec head... a B20a block with Vtec head is from a crv.. those lil honda suv things.. both require some modifing to work and aren't long lasting motors, but make good power..
forgot to say that you need a different ecu for the vtec to work.

Ignatowski
04-21-2006, 01:58 PM
Ford 4.9L Straight Six. Good torque, decent gas mileage, and durable as all hell.

I'd say the Chevy 4.3 is a good motor too but they blow intake gaskets.

Edit... Read original post...

****, that *****. I bet once you take the motor out it will be worth the 5 cent deposit..

10 cents if you take it to minnesota.


There is not best IMO
That ford 6 is very reliable.....the chevy 4.3/3.8 is a POS imo,they spum bearings like mad.....

I would have to say though the most poular and most used motor ever is the Chevy 350,when built correctly they can go forever,unfortunatly Chevy doesnt make them in production anymore,now they have high teck motors they cant build right....

MBenz Deisels I have seen go 400K miles which is pretty impressive,I read about a few going to a MillionMiles

JeffyZ33
04-21-2006, 03:09 PM
Why get a new motor when you can just roll down your window and scream VTAK!!1 when you shift?

In all seriousness, trying build a performance car when you don't even know what kind of motor you have is a slightly bad thing.

Oh and buy AMERICAN.

SAG3
04-23-2006, 03:56 AM
Why get a new motor when you can just roll down your window and scream VTAK!!1 when you shift?

In all seriousness, trying build a performance car when you don't even know what kind of motor you have is a slightly bad thing.

Oh and buy AMERICAN.
if you got mad cash to pay for crappy MPG.

Airman21
04-23-2006, 04:03 AM
ls1 in a little honda is fast... there is a guy on my air force base that has a ls1 in his acura and that is a quick little car...

RandyJ
04-23-2006, 01:50 PM
i'd probably go with an ls-swap, already an improvement but lends itself to becoming ls/vtec which can then be turboed, its a relatively cost effective swap and theres a lot more fun to be had with it. (b18b i think, not 100%)

Are you implying that a non-vtec car cannot be turboed?

Twistid
04-23-2006, 03:32 PM
just get a b16 out of a civic SI , should easily swap in without modification like a h22 or b18 might have , its cheaper than a gsr/type r so you can do some nice interal work or get f/i

Eugenics
04-23-2006, 03:58 PM
just get a b16 out of a civic SI , should easily swap in without modification like a h22 or b18 might have , its cheaper than a gsr/type r so you can do some nice interal work or get f/i


no, then you'll just have another ***** *** civic si with an even softer ride

RandyJ
04-23-2006, 08:06 PM
I got an idear, instead of asking this on an audio forum, check out a place like d-series.org, honda-tech.com, homemadeturbo.com or one of the many honda/import websites. READ and see what others are doing, have done and what seems to work. A LOTTTT more exposure over there than here.

heyman421
04-25-2006, 06:42 PM
Enough raggin' on the civic! I realize there's a lot of 'fast-n-furious' neon green ones with sweet flames, and 4 foot spoilers, but over in ravenna i'll be ****ed if i don't see dodge neons with bodykits, or N/A fuel injected mustangs and camaros with gigantic hood scoops, or 6cyl. base model 80's mustangs with loud *** flowmaster exhausts and boatloads of performance stickers.

As far as hondas go, it depends more on your tuning than the actual lump you start with. It also depends on what kind of driving you want to do. For a daily driver with more balls, you're gonna want an engine with plenty of torque, hp and upgradeability become less of an issue. I'd probably go for a B18C5, or go balls to the wall and pop in a K20.

If you're looking to go more aggressive with your tuning, i think the B18B is a great place to start from. It's a low-torque, high revving engine, tons of parts are available for it, you can get one that needs minimal work for $300 (i just sourced that price 30 seconds ago, in fact) and there's a guy in Missouri running low 10's with stock internals. I'm not aware of any super sweet street driven late model American cars in my area running 10's, let alone with a 1.8 and stock internals. In fact, when i had my 87 GTI with just a built N/A 2.9 in it, the only, and i mean only, car that ever actually kept up with my was an 80's s10, and i should've seen that one coming :)

Eugenics
04-25-2006, 07:03 PM
if he could affoard a c5 or k20 he wouldn't be driving that car in the first place

B_Campbell
04-26-2006, 11:21 AM
Ls1 Swap!

btnhfan
04-27-2006, 04:47 AM
Anyway you have a d16y8.


IMO, not all that bad of a motor. But then again its no b16, which can be easily swapped in if you want to deal with all that. If you are looking to keep this motor and use that as the basis to get faster, Id go here. www.d-series.org

Very informative.

marleyskater420
04-27-2006, 04:08 PM
If you're looking to go more aggressive with your tuning, i think the B18B is a great place to start from. It's a low-torque, high revving engine, tons of parts are available for it, you can get one that needs minimal work for $300 (i just sourced that price 30 seconds ago, in fact) and there's a guy in Missouri running low 10's with stock internals. I'm not aware of any super sweet street driven late model American cars in my area running 10's, let alone with a 1.8 and stock internals. In fact, when i had my 87 GTI with just a built N/A 2.9 in it, the only, and i mean only, car that ever actually kept up with my was an 80's s10, and i should've seen that one coming :)

You need to go to the track more. I would put that at least for every 5 10sec american cars, there is 1 10sec street car. AT LEAST.

However, I say an LS1 swap.

LoudCrownVic
04-27-2006, 04:10 PM
You need to go to the track more. I would put that at least for every 5 10sec american cars, there is 1 10sec street car. AT LEAST.

However, I say an LS1 swap.

Bah. I say swap in a 5.5 ohv Briggs and Stratton. it will keep with the go-cart mentality.

concept11253
05-09-2006, 03:15 AM
K20a2 or a B18c

fakename
05-09-2006, 10:48 AM
i think i have my mind set on a b18c

RandyJ
05-09-2006, 04:12 PM
if you got mad cash to pay for crappy MPG.

You worry about mileage in your performance car?

Eugenics
05-09-2006, 04:15 PM
i just said **** it all and my new car is being turboed as we speak, rwd ftw!

LoudCrownVic
05-09-2006, 04:18 PM
i just said **** it all and my new car is being turboed as we speak, rwd ftw!

Yah, you will wonder why you ever had a front wheel drive car. Drifting FTW!

Eugenics
05-09-2006, 04:26 PM
drifting ftw! when i get my new 2.5way lsd, ftw!. yeah, my mustangs too heavy and ****ing worthless to drift with. this will be a welcome change

SAG3
05-11-2006, 02:27 AM
You worry about mileage in your performance car?
no

fakename
05-11-2006, 05:01 PM
im gonna get a H22A

Eugenics
05-11-2006, 05:19 PM
im gonna get a H22A


good block, but if you're going to turbo it you'll probably end up having to have sleve work. look at a f20b (iirc) its like a destroked h22 with iron sleves and it revs like a mofo. awesome block

fakename
05-11-2006, 05:28 PM
the h22a with a few bolt ons should be plenty enough power for me :D

lrgnation
05-12-2006, 12:48 AM
If it were me i would go with the b18c1(gsr) or b18c5(type r) motor and throw a turbo setup with about 8lbs and stock internals. Prolly boost it to about 300whp with a good tune.

My friend has a h22 swapped hatch that he is turboing soon also another good motor. Its the $$ that you want to spend.

Eugenics
05-12-2006, 02:00 AM
If it were me i would go with the b18c1(gsr) or b18c5(type r) motor and throw a turbo setup with about 8lbs and stock internals. Prolly boost it to about 300whp with a good tune.

My friend has a h22 swapped hatch that he is turboing soon also another good motor. Its the $$ that you want to spend.


yeah uh, great if you have the ~5k to spend on the c5

bikejunkie223
05-12-2006, 12:54 PM
i drive a 98 civic ex. first, id like to know what kind of motor i have. 2nd, id like to know what the best motor would be to swap in it. include specs if you can. :D
I think one of these is exactly what you need:http://www.junauto.co.jp/products/complete-engine/b16-b18/price-lineup/index.html?en

I have a friend with a Jun racing motor and it is dam fast. So if you are serious one of these is what you want. Oh did I metion race car gear like this is stupidly expensive? My bad.....

Eugenics
05-12-2006, 03:11 PM
i know a guy that put a b20 in his older prelude, i do believe its running ~20 psi at the moment. he's poured lots of time money and effort into that vehicle though