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robbi
04-17-2006, 07:19 PM
Getting ready to step out of the carpet realm and do some vinyl on my new setup? Any suggestions? Thanks.

UndercoverPunk
04-17-2006, 07:20 PM
CF vynil is horrendous....

robbi
04-17-2006, 07:26 PM
What do you mean? The looks or the workability? The material should be here tomorrow. If its that bad, I may use standard gray vinyl.

UndercoverPunk
04-17-2006, 07:29 PM
What do you mean? The looks or the workability? The material should be here tomorrow. If its that bad, I may use standard gray vinyl.


Looks, all the CF vynil I've EVER seen looks horrible.

300watts
04-17-2006, 08:31 PM
If the panels are flat I'd use regular contact cement (like Weldwood) that you paint on. If you need to stretch the vinyl, you'll need a Landau Top contact cement that needs to be sprayed.

-chris

ramos
04-18-2006, 09:37 AM
I tend to agree with ucp . That carbon fiber vinyl doesn't look very well. It tends to distort alot with stretching. :)

Vincent9515
04-19-2006, 02:57 AM
Trim Tack works great. It's the best spray-can adhesive I've used. It's almost as strong as Weldwood Contact Cement. If you have an air compressor and want to pick up a cheap spray gun, the Weldwood spray grade gallon is great. I like the Trim Tack for vinyl since you're able to reposition the material if a bubble forms. It's stuck for good with Weldwood.

The brush method will work, but it doesn't spread as smoothly. If just one part doesn't have glue on it, you're going to get a bubble with vinyl.

I buy Trim Tack from www.able-audio.com Way better than any 3M garbage.

snb778
04-19-2006, 03:06 AM
Ok...I just tried this stuff..I was kind sceptical (sp?) about it at first...but go to your local hardware store (ace for me) and get the RED CAN of 3M 77 Sticky....it works great....tacks up within under 5 minutes and holds really well...once you put it on the vinyl and wait a few...you can start folding it and it will stick within a few minutes.

bonesninja
04-19-2006, 03:08 AM
^^X2 they have the white can of 3M spray at wally world...works great

snb778
04-19-2006, 03:10 AM
DONT get the green one though...that **** *****... red was MUCH better

Vincent9515
04-19-2006, 03:41 AM
3M holds well at first and covers very nicely, but loses its ability to stick within time. I built many boxes using it only to find nearly every one having adhesion problems a few months later. I used Super 77 on these.

It's seriously not a good choice for boxes. I've even asked for second opinions and had many shop owners/installers agree about the adhesion issues.

Hopefully there won't be a problem with vinyl. My home theater sub is vinyled and I think I used the 3M on it and haven't had any problems.

bri487
04-19-2006, 03:46 AM
Looks, all the CF vynil I've EVER seen looks horrible.

you need to look elsewhere then. i just saw some that my dealer picked up the other day. sweet looking stuff.

ramos
04-19-2006, 09:21 AM
Yeah it looks real good on a roll :)

bri487
04-19-2006, 01:58 PM
Yeah it looks real good on a roll :)

or on panels.

ramos
04-19-2006, 02:05 PM
I'll agree with you, on flat panels that involve little stretching. I have seen some carbon fiber vinyl that looked decent on accent panels and such. But Stevie Wonder could tell you it's not real carbon fiber. :)

bri487
04-19-2006, 11:24 PM
I'll agree with you, on flat panels that involve little stretching. I have seen some carbon fiber vinyl that looked decent on accent panels and such. But Stevie Wonder could tell you it's not real carbon fiber. :)

right..... and you were under the impression that it was real?

ramos
04-20-2006, 09:21 AM
No, but what's the purpose of using something that's supposed to look like carbon fiber, but doesn't really ? :)

bri487
04-20-2006, 03:13 PM
No, but what's the purpose of using something that's supposed to look like carbon fiber, but doesn't really ? :)

it doesnt even really look like carbon fiber. i think its just called that because the way the texture looks is similar.

ramos
04-20-2006, 03:23 PM
You must have something different than what is around here locally. The crap around here look similar because of a painted on pattern. But ends up looking like poo poo when it's stretched. Got any pictures of what your talking about ? :)

bri487
04-20-2006, 03:57 PM
this sint that good of a pic. it looks much much better in person.
http://www.getti.us/cfblack.gif

ramos
04-21-2006, 08:58 AM
Now I see does look better than what I have seen. They didn't try to make it look exactly like cf. THe crap around here is god awful. I'll freak the people at Micheals out, and snap some pics of it next time I'm in there. It's hideous. :)

Black_Jesus
04-21-2006, 10:34 AM
i just have a real CF face on my box =)

robbi
04-21-2006, 05:17 PM
I got the CF vinyl in as pictured above. The stuff looks pretty good. I am not really trying to make anyone think its real carbon fiber, but wanted something that was different than standard vinyl. Actually it is standard vinyl that looks to be stamped with style.