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Eldorado
04-08-2006, 05:20 AM
Yes...i have cured it.
I spend about 40 min figuring out how to stop this.
All you need is some CA glue and your annoying problem will be sloved.
All you do is glue the tinsel lead to the edge of the basket where the spider meets it.
If you dont believe me then try it yourself. You need to leave enough room for the woofer to move.
So leave some slack but not a lot. The eaisest way is to play some music and find the spot where it doesnt hit but has enough room.
If you dont understand i'll take a pic of my finger on the tinsel lead where it wont hit.
They sounded so nice w/o that nastyness
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JAZN
04-08-2006, 05:24 AM
I understand the concept but a pic would be nice, just for better illustration.

Eldorado
04-08-2006, 05:31 AM
You dont have poly mids :p:
I'll get a pic in a couple mins

JAZN
04-08-2006, 07:22 AM
I'm a potential customer, just scoping out the problems.

Dozy_production
04-08-2006, 12:06 PM
merci!

Worlddre
04-08-2006, 12:09 PM
supa is the man

loserpunk
04-08-2006, 01:33 PM
what about felt on the back on the cone?

UndercoverPunk
04-08-2006, 01:35 PM
time to got to the hobbyshop...

UndercoverPunk
04-08-2006, 01:35 PM
what about felt on the back on the cone?


You would add ALOT of weight by doing that

Expect a distinct differance in sound.

loserpunk
04-08-2006, 01:50 PM
You would add ALOT of weight by doing that

Expect a distinct differance in sound.
ALOT?.....the size of the pad would be extremely small....i doubt it would add almost any weight

req
04-08-2006, 01:51 PM
why not just bend it in half and glue it to the spider landing there? wouldnt that be much safer and look nicer? :p:

Dozy_production
04-08-2006, 02:04 PM
do most speakers have that long of a tinsel? or is it that AA just didnt really secure theirs?

squeak9798
04-08-2006, 02:09 PM
Sounds like either 1) AA didn't do enough R&D to realize the problem, 2) they realized the problem and just didn't care, or 3) they realized the problem, but didn't think enough customers would push the drivers to the limit that the tinsel lead slap would be an issue.

imaspaceguy90
04-08-2006, 02:09 PM
looks good, jsu tmake sure you leave anough slack oto wear the tinsels leads wont rip out, its happened....

UndercoverPunk
04-08-2006, 02:36 PM
IT's been a few months since I've had CA glue... boy do I miss having the stuff around.

Eldorado
04-08-2006, 09:10 PM
why not just bend it in half and glue it to the spider landing there? wouldnt that be much safer and look nicer? :p:
Its not that long....
Who cares how nice it looks, its the back of the woofer.

Eldorado
04-08-2006, 09:13 PM
looks good, jsu tmake sure you leave anough slack oto wear the tinsels leads wont rip out, its happened....
Its easy for that to happen since they literally come off of the coil.

RPM
04-08-2006, 09:26 PM
so hows the sound of these drivers for loud mids?

ngsm13
04-09-2006, 12:53 AM
****.

nG

Wkbdkid
04-09-2006, 01:49 AM
does the slap only occur when being pushed to the limits? im thinking of getting some and they'll be ran off my H/U(kenwood exceleon 889). also might be a dumb question, but is a midwoofer the same as a coaxil speaker? these will replace my stock front speakers, will they work?

~Magick_Man~
04-09-2006, 01:57 AM
does the slap only occur when being pushed to the limits? im thinking of getting some and they'll be ran off my H/U(kenwood exceleon 889). also might be a dumb question, but is a midwoofer the same as a coaxil speaker? these will replace my stock front speakers, will they work?

yeah you need to push them pretty hard to get it to slap.
mid-woofer is a coaxial without a tweeter mounted on it.
these wouldnt run very well off hu power. and you would need some crossovers/ and tweeters.
i would say an amp with atleast 50 watts per channel to run them.

so i would say, no. they wont work like you want them to.
but you could pick up an amp and some tweeters with crossovers to go with the mids and then it would work for you.

~Magick_Man~

Wkbdkid
04-09-2006, 02:02 AM
thanks that answered my question.

Megalomaniac
12-13-2006, 06:44 PM
boobs, i needed this thread :)

thanks nG for pointing me to this thread.

thanks eldorado for this thread

acold7dusta
12-13-2006, 06:57 PM
guess ill be doin these to my dads polys over break

thanks

ngsm13
12-13-2006, 07:16 PM
w00t.

nG

Mat Dope
12-13-2006, 10:00 PM
sweet now im going to get some, id be giving them 125 each so i figured id run into the dreded slap

Megalomaniac
12-13-2006, 10:01 PM
sweet now im going to get some, id be giving them 125 each so i figured id run into the dreded slap

i got slap at 75watts on passenger side

UndercoverPunk
12-13-2006, 10:01 PM
If that's REAL watts... monitor the temperature. Mine get hot as ****.

Megalomaniac
12-13-2006, 10:03 PM
If that's REAL watts... monitor the temperature. Mine get hot as ****.

reffering to me or the guy above me?

i think they got hot cause of them Neo motors...right?

UndercoverPunk
12-13-2006, 10:06 PM
reffering to me or the guy above me?

i think they got hot cause of them Neo motors...right?

as far as I've ever read magnet material shouldn't effect cooling.

and I was talking to other guy.

Megalomaniac
12-13-2006, 10:09 PM
as far as I've ever read magnet material shouldn't effect cooling.

and I was talking to other guy.

u got any vidz of yours "in action" to music, kinda like the vid u did with the extrmiis

WaTTsLOk187
12-13-2006, 10:09 PM
On mine I loosened the little terminal and just turned it around. It pulled the tinsel enough to where it wasn't all over the place. I hope it works. It seems to.

UndercoverPunk
12-13-2006, 10:11 PM
u got any vidz of yours "in action" to music, kinda like the vid u did with the extrmiis


nope, they'll be gone soon enough.

Mat Dope
12-13-2006, 10:15 PM
If that's REAL watts... monitor the temperature. Mine get hot as ****.

yes that is real watts, i will keep in mind the temp though, i doubt ill be pushing them that hard to the point where they will actually be seeing that much power for any decnet amount of time, i also spoke with chad about it and he said i should be fine just dont go overbored. but thanks for the heads up

Megalomaniac
12-13-2006, 10:16 PM
nope, they'll be gone soon enough.

gone 2 me ? :)

UndercoverPunk
12-13-2006, 10:18 PM
no, I have to buy 8's first, and I'll probably use them.

Megalomaniac
12-13-2006, 10:21 PM
no, I have to buy 8's first, and I'll probably use them.

tease

sundownz
12-13-2006, 10:22 PM
Mine had slap even with an 80 Hz, 24dB crossover slope with 100 watts from an SAX-100.4 on tap. I'll have to test em' out with the lead glued down... I'm a little concerned about the lead breaking, but hey, I've got 3 of em' down in the basement I'm not using to mess with :)

Megalomaniac
12-13-2006, 10:24 PM
Mine had slap even with an 80 Hz, 24dB crossover slope with 100 watts from an SAX-100.4 on tap. I'll have to test em' out with the lead glued down... I'm a little concerned about the lead breaking, but hey, I've got 3 of em' down in the basement I'm not using to mess with :)

i got 3 more on the way :)

UndercoverPunk
12-13-2006, 10:29 PM
Mine had slap even with an 80 Hz, 24dB crossover slope with 100 watts from an SAX-100.4 on tap. I'll have to test em' out with the lead glued down... I'm a little concerned about the lead breaking, but hey, I've got 3 of em' down in the basement I'm not using to mess with :)
Mine slapped more on high bass-midbass notes more than lower bass notes.

cd6551
12-14-2006, 07:35 PM
Ive never had any slap problems. Right now Im actually running them without a high pass in sealed door pods with no problems. They can move a decent amount of air

headknocker
01-11-2007, 03:43 PM
I received a pair of the poly mids yesterday. I don't have any CA glue handy. Would a dab from a hot glue gun be OK? I will be doing the same thing that you did (gluing it to the edge of the frame)...just taking out some of the slack but leaving enough play so it doesn't snap.

iamamp3pimp
02-19-2007, 09:23 PM
im thinking of just desoldering the terminal a little and pulling the tinsel through just a little.