PDA

View Full Version : My lasted project



thylantyr
04-07-2006, 09:51 PM
... nope, not audio :crying:

I refinanced the homestead and got some cash to distribute amongst
a few projects, one being audio, others are woodworking tools/shop stuff,
homestead upgrades, etc.

Money will be tight going forward so this is my last stand.. that said I've
always had the fascination with Texas BBQ smokers... the stomach sometimes
rules over other hobbies, .... mans gotta eat like a king right? ...

This project is consuming me and the evil demons need to be warded off..
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=241005

The custom pit estimate is $3k plus at least $500 shipping. That's alot of iron
to ship.

The biggest hurdle is making the smoker a 3 in 1 tool. Why settle for a one
trick pony when I can have them do mods to make it do more things that
I want. I can't justify dropping that much coin for a 'blind design', I want to
see pics of these mods they do. Good news, I found pics but no pics of
the gas burner mod as most folks don't do that, only crazy Californians like me :)

So.. that is the headache, how to implement gas grilling with V-bars inside
the main chamber to allow gas grilling, allow protection of the burners from
carcass crud and to allow smooth smoking across the horizontal plane.

I have an idea, no big deal, the problem is executing the idea and I await
for the folks at Gator to respond to my crazy thoughts..

Most BBQ folks think the hybrid pit is not ideal, but I want to push the envelope
to see if it can be done well.

I'm hungry, need some BBQ :yumyum:

The evil audio demon hates this project as that is money that could be
used to finish my audio battlestation. /arg

req
04-07-2006, 10:55 PM
i dont really understand why you would spend so much money when you can go out and have somone cook a steak for you :)

but if thats what gets your ******* hard, id like some smoked beef to 13090.

PV Audio
04-08-2006, 12:17 AM
There is no substitute for good southern/midwest barbeque. Texas (where I'm from) and Kansas undoubtedly have the greatest barbeque ever. Hickory smoked brisket from my old neighbor in texas is the best i've had, and what did he cook it in?? A bathtub.

thylantyr
04-08-2006, 02:54 AM
There was only one place in town to get that kind of food... and they sold
the restuarant to the asian folks .. who somehow managed to change the recipe
and it aint the same. So... there is no place to get food like that here
anymore... solution -> DIY food :)

If my place of residence was to be permanent, I think a DIY pit made of
brick would be a neat project, not only to save money but you can have
DIY satisfaction.

Problem is.. I already have many hobbies that drain me, learning a new trade
like metalworking and acquiring the tools to do this isn't something I want to invest
time and money into it.. otherwise it would be cool to clone their design.. I don't know
anything about welding and I'd imagine there is some serious tool investment too.

I'll stick to woodworking and focus on that skill...

:light bulb:

Maybe I can make my own pit out of wood ? :)

Ignatowski
04-08-2006, 06:43 AM
the best BBQ is in Memphis....
End of story

brandontw
04-08-2006, 07:57 AM
man thy, i like wish i was your next door neighbor or something cause you always got some sweet project going on.

I would just come and hang out at your house and oogle over all your crazy stuff, and of course eat some of your BBQ:yumyum:

imaspaceguy90
04-08-2006, 10:59 AM
we were gonna build one of em pits but time and money equals project failure

thylantyr
04-08-2006, 03:08 PM
The BBQ folks don't like the hybrid pit idea.

http://www.texasbbqrub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=92912#92912

I did find one dood that had his gator modded with gas burners, I await his
pit pics to see how they implemented the design.

What do you think? Valid claims or paranoia ?

Meka
04-08-2006, 03:18 PM
Kansas does have some goood bbq. :)

ballstothewall
04-09-2006, 04:40 PM
Kansas does have some goood bbq. :)

I agree...

PV Audio
04-09-2006, 05:03 PM
How can you not agree? There's nothing else to do out there.

ballstothewall
04-09-2006, 05:45 PM
How can you not agree? There's nothing else to do out there.

You sayin theres nothing to do in Kansas? :eyebrow:

I will have to agree... Come on, at home me and a couple friends have stood in the middle of mainstreet on a saturday and talked for 30min and I don't think more than 2 cars went by...

joetama
04-09-2006, 10:09 PM
BBQ is good, but I don't know if it's that good......

thylantyr
04-10-2006, 01:04 PM
Terrorizer 24" pit version 1.0
This is the gas mod idea that I desire. This is just a concept to give
the Gator folks a ballpark idea on what I'm thinking.

Top View
1. Start with a 24" x 36" long pit, 2" offset on the left and right side
and it gives you 32" shelving area.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-1.jpg

2. Establish some centerlines for the burners and V-bars. My Weber
gas grill uses 1 inch diameter pipe burners on 6" centers. I will follow
the same recipe. The centerlines are 3" in space.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-2.jpg

3. Install five pipe burners on 6" centers.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-3.jpg

4. V-bar installation, 11 of them. The Weber V-bars are 2.375" wide and
there is 0.625" space between them. They are installed on center.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-4.jpg

5. Picture of the burners underneath the V-bar.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-5.jpg
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-6.jpg

6. Install gas knobs.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-7.jpg

7. Dimensional data;
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_top-8.jpg

Cross-section idea
1. 24" inside dimension circle with centerlines
{I don't know the actual size of the pipe}
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-1.jpg

2. Add 1" diameter pipe burners 'front to back'.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-2.jpg

3. Add 1/4" thick x 1" brackets to hold the V-bars.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-3.jpg

4. Install Weber V-bars on top of the bracket. Oddly enough,
the Weber V-bar is 22.5" and it fits right in there with a we bit to spare.
{if the pit is not 24" ID, back to the drawing board :) ]
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-4.jpg

5. Add the lower cooking grate. I'm taking a big guess that the Gator
pit shelf is 1" above the centerline.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-5.jpg

6. Add the upper cooking grate. I'm taking another guess and assuming
it's centered.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-6.jpg

7. Add a burner control valve cover plate to the front of the pit, 1/4"
iron plate.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-7.jpg

8. Install the gas knob/valve
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-8.jpg

9. Install the hinged prep table. The first section of the table is
fixed, 4" wide. The hinged part is about 8" wide. The idea is to
fold down the table and not hit the control valves.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-9.jpg

10. Add dimensions to the drawing.
http://home.pacbell.net/lordpk/pit/24/pit_cross-10.jpg

Here is how I got these dimensions.

Everything was based off the centerline as a starting point.
Looking at Gator pit pics, I see the lower cooking grate might be
1" above the center line so I placed the lower grate there.

My Weber has about a 2.25" of air gap between the cooking grate
and top of V-bar, so I decided to play it safe and draw a 2.75" air gap
between the lower cooking grate and top of V-bar. If I need to, it
can be moved closer.

My Weber has a 1" air gap between their 1" pipe burner and the
bottom of the V-bar, so I used that dimension.

Comments?

thylantyr
04-10-2006, 01:31 PM
BBQ is good, but I don't know if it's that good......


Tiss that good :)

Hows it hanging ?
http://www.gatorpit.net/Hangin_hog.jpg
http://www.gatorpit.net/Hangin_hog_2.jpg

thylantyr
04-10-2006, 01:45 PM
You know you want one :)

http://www.gatorpit.net/Texas_Legend_by_Gator_Pit.jpg

Four smoke stacks;
http://www.gatorpit.net/Texas_Legend_Doors_Open_2.jpg

Ribs .. yummm
http://www.gatorpit.net/Racks_of_Ribs.jpg
http://www.gatorpit.net/Pork_Spares_on_Gator_Holders.jpg

ballstothewall
04-10-2006, 01:46 PM
Small hog hangin there...

thylantyr
04-10-2006, 06:22 PM
DIY pit, 107 pics.
http://home.comcast.net/~mrbuzzsaw/gallery/1.html

ballstothewall
04-11-2006, 01:19 AM
Very cool pit...

Very cool

thylantyr
04-14-2006, 12:10 PM
My thread on the BBQ pit forum got closed. I scored another star for my
shoulder :)

Just like certain audio forums, people are biased in their own ways and aren't
open minded. 99% of the folks don't like a gas mod inside a pit.

So.... I ordered parts to make my own gas assembly and I might have the pit
fabricators just build some brackets to make the gas module install easier,
this comes back to the old saying "you want someone done right, DIY".

When parts come in, lets see if I can blow something up. I'll do a better CAD
drawing for youse to see.....................

If you know anything about propane gas plumbing / design.... raise yer hand.

I've looked at store bought designs and some internet stuff, the concept seems easy.

Propane Tank -> Regulator -> gas pipe manifold -> valve -> orifice -> burner

Orifice hole size is one of the big variables. They sell the orifice with a #70 {very tiny} hole
and it's your job to drill it out bigger for desired flame. Bigger hole, bigger flame. For BBQ,
you don't want a flamethrower design, you want a nice blue flame {no yellow} so I ordered
many orifices to experiment with.

It's amazing that these things work with the orifice just sitting loosely in the burner hole,
not screwed in at all.

I'm thinking of usiing brass 1/4" pipe with tee's for the 5 valve gas manifold...

Comments?

chubby
04-14-2006, 12:20 PM
north carolina bbq. pulled pork and vinegar. mmmmmm
and slaw.

ballstothewall
04-14-2006, 12:30 PM
It sure sounds like youve got it all figured out for that pit...

You really do enjoy getting your threads closed don't ya? lol

thylantyr
04-14-2006, 01:15 PM
Go have some fun, go to those BBQ forums and tell them you are
making a trailer pit with gas and also mention that your design is superior,
watch the fireworks :)

ballstothewall
04-14-2006, 02:04 PM
Go have some fun, go to those BBQ forums and tell them you are
making a trailer pit with gas and also mention that your design is superior,
watch the fireworks :)

:naughty:

So at the end of the summer theres gonna be a huge audio fest BBQ at your house?? lol :yumyum:

joetama
04-14-2006, 02:19 PM
:naughty:

So at the end of the summer theres gonna be a huge audio fest BBQ at your house?? lol :yumyum:

Whooohooooo Party at Thy's place lol....

It prolly got closed cause the threat should be in the lounge.....

thylantyr
04-14-2006, 06:06 PM
So at the end of the summer theres gonna be a huge audio fest BBQ at your house??

Takes those guys 3-4 months to fabricate custom pits.

Stereo system won't be built until next year, but in the meantime we
have this over here in July.

http://www.ozzfest.com/bands.html

and Slayer is coming to my town that same month :)