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3.5Max6spd
03-22-2006, 06:22 PM
Well dunno if everywhere, but we picked up a few today:naughty:

6spdcoupe
03-22-2006, 06:25 PM
Throwin mine in tonight. :)

alphakenny1
03-22-2006, 06:25 PM
give it to me too :).

6spdcoupe
03-22-2006, 06:29 PM
Give? Me no understand ?

:D

alphakenny1
03-22-2006, 06:29 PM
Give? Me no understand ?

:D

:crying: :crying: :crying:

FoxPro5
03-22-2006, 06:35 PM
:needpics:

3.5Max6spd
03-22-2006, 06:40 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_113_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_111_full.jpg

tRiGgEr
03-22-2006, 06:53 PM
I'll take one for free shipped to 91950;)

jimmyjames1700
03-22-2006, 07:05 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_113_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_111_full.jpg

Just wanted to see that **** thang again:naughty:

Shinobi
03-22-2006, 07:12 PM
**** I can getem for a good price now I think I have to go do a few hits to buy one ;) I dont like the one knob so much but ****it the 880PRS is taking to long :(

3.5Max6spd
03-22-2006, 08:01 PM
Well if anyone is interested in the CD7000 I preordered for myself you can pm me. I locked into one before I bought my Panasonic, i have no use for it.:(

alphakenny1
03-22-2006, 08:51 PM
pm me your cheapest price.

edit: saw your thread on eca. not looking to spend that much :D

FoxPro5
03-22-2006, 09:36 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_113_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_111_full.jpg

Wow that's a pretty decent looking face...are all the controls that were on the two knobs before on that single big as$ knob?

regal8r
03-22-2006, 09:43 PM
nice but id rather have the cd5000

Intercooler
03-22-2006, 10:06 PM
nice but id rather have the cd5000


Just curious why?


The CD-7000 looks much better than I thought!

regal8r
03-22-2006, 10:09 PM
i like the color screen and both knobs...personal preference i guess...cd7000 is a **** nice unit tho

rbenz27
03-22-2006, 10:23 PM
Nice unit. Looks better than the pics on Eclipse or Crutchfield.

slick rick
03-22-2006, 10:53 PM
I am taking DONations...

alphakenny1
03-22-2006, 11:26 PM
nice but id rather have the cd5000

i mean to me. its an easy decision when choosing between the cd5000 and the cd7000. if you are going active its the cd7000. if passive then go with the cd5000. if you are going passive and buy the cd7000, you wouldn't be using the cd7000 to its fullest capabilities and hence it would be pretty much the same as using the cd5000. so save yourself the $100 and get the cd5000 if you are going the passive route. not choose strictly on looks.

desertheat
03-22-2006, 11:42 PM
what are the available crossoverslopes on that baby..? Also is q adjustable on the peq???

alphakenny1
03-22-2006, 11:44 PM
what are the available crossoverslopes on that baby..? Also is q adjustable on the peq???

if its the same as my 8455. it'll go up to 24db/oct. and there are 5 q settings on the peq.

6spdcoupe
03-23-2006, 01:31 AM
i mean to me. its an easy decision when choosing between the cd5000 and the cd7000. if you are going active its the cd7000. if passive then go with the cd5000. if you are going passive and buy the cd7000, you wouldn't be using the cd7000 to its fullest capabilities and hence it would be pretty much the same as using the cd5000. so save yourself the $100 and get the cd5000 if you are going the passive route. not choose strictly on looks.

Some people may prefer the better display, but more functional wise...the detach face and learning/teaching steering control..

alphakenny1
03-23-2006, 01:45 AM
Some people may prefer the better display, but more functional wise...the detach face and learning/teaching steering control..

very true but dang that a hard price to pay for display. paying an extra $100 for a display and not functions, i dunno to me wouldn't be worth $100. but yea everyone has different priorities.

6spdcoupe
03-23-2006, 01:56 AM
I think the detach face would play a huge roll, as alot of people steered away from Eclipse in the past just due to that alone.

One of my customers actually had me make a false face (with the stock HU) just to cover the 8455 he purchased. Now that its detach he would have had no problem paying for it.

6spdcoupe
03-23-2006, 03:20 AM
Gotta admit, shes **** ****...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_115_full.jpg

alphakenny1
03-23-2006, 03:21 AM
wow. thats is.

ngsm13
03-23-2006, 03:23 AM
Whew!

Looks amazing. I'm gonna have to go ahead and order mine.

Is the face motorized?

nG

6spdcoupe
03-23-2006, 03:25 AM
Whew!

Looks amazing. I'm gonna have to go ahead and order mine.

Is the face motorized?

nG


Yessir it is. :)

You do however still have to press it to close, but it functions while open unlike the previous models..

ngsm13
03-23-2006, 03:35 AM
Yessir it is. :)

You do however still have to press it to close, but it functions while open unlike the previous models..

Sweet, one thing I disliked about my 8053...

nG

Ingleside
03-23-2006, 03:39 AM
**** thats nice. i cant wait to get some in the store.

bri487
03-23-2006, 04:04 AM
i saw one today at the dealer in town. nice piece, they look better in person. i am tempted, but i am going to wait for the avn 6600 to come out. or i might just get the 5435 because of the 3 year warrenty.

bri487
03-23-2006, 04:05 AM
i didnt notice the detachable face though, thats a nice feature.

adam71
03-23-2006, 04:51 AM
Yessir it is. :)

You do however still have to press it to close,


If you have to close it by pressing it wouldn't that mean its NOT motorized??? I'm not sure I understand.:eyebrow:

TheBigDu
03-23-2006, 09:09 AM
If you have to close it by pressing it wouldn't that mean its NOT motorized??? I'm not sure I understand.:eyebrow:
I think he means you have to press the open/eject button to return the faceplate after inserting a CD, as opposed to Alpine models where the unit automatically returns to the closed position once the CD is inserted.

FoxPro5
03-23-2006, 10:11 AM
Gotta admit, shes **** ****...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_115_full.jpg

The new Eclipse is so hot he has to have the AC on in the car at all times....even in the winter :naughty:

Is that an Arc DXE combo underneath it?

I <3 your dash :)

6spdcoupe
03-23-2006, 12:21 PM
I think he means you have to press the open/eject button to return the faceplate after inserting a CD, as opposed to Alpine models where the unit automatically returns to the closed position once the CD is inserted.


Correct sir. ;)

6spdcoupe
03-23-2006, 12:22 PM
The new Eclipse is so hot he has to have the AC on in the car at all times....even in the winter :naughty:

Is that an Arc DXE combo underneath it?

I <3 your dash :)


LoL its actually the heat. :)

Yes it is.

Thank you :D

adam71
03-23-2006, 02:37 PM
I think he means you have to press the open/eject button to return the faceplate after inserting a CD, as opposed to Alpine models where the unit automatically returns to the closed position once the CD is inserted.

Pioneer does as well, but I can't believe the Eclipse decks don't. Seems sort of lame in my opinion. Oh well, Eclipse should make up for it in SQ like they usually do.

3.5Max6spd
03-23-2006, 05:27 PM
Pioneer does as well, but I can't believe the Eclipse decks don't. Seems sort of lame in my opinion. Oh well, Eclipse should make up for it in SQ like they usually do.

It would make no sense if it did- being behind the face not only is a cd slot but one one slot for the magicgate memory card. Who wants their fingers caught while trying to remove/insert the memory card;)

denim
03-23-2006, 05:57 PM
nice piece

FoxPro5
03-23-2006, 06:00 PM
It would make no sense if it did- being behind the face not only is a cd slot but one one slot for the magicgate memory card. Who wants their fingers caught while trying to remove/insert the memory card;)

I can't tell you how many times my 8053 has nearly crunched a CD on me because it does automatically shut....little devil....it always does in just the amount of time for me to unload on CD, put it away, and then get the next one out to load it in! :up2somet:

Having to manualy close the face is a good thing....however they should have put the eject button on the bottom not on the top.:crap:

Zxcvtypo
03-23-2006, 06:15 PM
Gotta admit, shes **** ****...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/252000-252999/252930_115_full.jpg


yo, im loving that setup. i'll hopefully have something similar in my G next year when i get it :crazy:

how do you like it? any more pics of your setup?

regal8r
03-23-2006, 06:25 PM
****, i was just lookin in my crutchfield and the cd7000 was the one with the color screen :crap:...what sux tho is that the 7000 only has 5v preouts..

headless
03-23-2006, 06:27 PM
I can't tell you how many times my 8053 has nearly crunched a CD on me because it does automatically shut....little devil....it always does in just the amount of time for me to unload on CD, put it away, and then get the next one out to load it in! :up2somet:

Having to manualy close the face is a good thing....however they should have put the eject button on the bottom not on the top.:crap:

LOL -- this story makes me laugh because i don't know how many times my CD8051 did the same thing. I swear they made the IR sensor notice when a hand gets close holding a CD to put in, and closes the deck just to spite you. It almost got my fingers once...lol

Chevyaudio
03-23-2006, 06:33 PM
Very Very nice...makes me want one...also what vehicle is that in....

Your dash=Teh Hawtness

Chevyaudio
03-23-2006, 06:34 PM
****, i was just lookin in my crutchfield and the cd7000 was the one with the color screen :crap:...what sux tho is that the 7000 only has 5v preouts..


Honestly you dont need anymore than 5V. and your amp will never see 5V from your preouts unless your playing 0db material at full volume

3.5Max6spd
03-23-2006, 07:09 PM
Very Very nice...makes me want one...also what vehicle is that in....

Your dash=Teh Hawtness

he has a G35 sedan...and yes its hot whip!

blue
03-23-2006, 11:22 PM
I bet it sounds good .... but like all Eclipse decks , it looks to space age for my tastes. I'll stick with my DRZ-9255.

BodegaBay
03-24-2006, 03:12 AM
Look at that K-N-O-B! Is that one helluva volume attenuator or what!
So Don...aethestics aside, I'd like your honest opinion: does it sound any different that the 8455, 8454, 8053, and 8443 that preceded it?

6spdcoupe
03-24-2006, 03:15 AM
The knob honestly isnt that bad, although the ease of use is much better than the previous models.

Switching sources is a bit easier now.

Floor noise issues seem to have been addressed a bit, but may be due to lower volatge preouts.

I still have to play around with it a bit.

bri487
03-24-2006, 03:18 AM
The knob honestly isnt that bad, although the ease of use is much better than the previous models.

Switching sources is a bit easier now.

Floor noise issues seem to have been addressed a bit, but may be due to lower volatge preouts.

I still have to play around with it a bit.

i am starting to shy away from the 6600, i dont feel like waiting for whenever they are ready to release it, so i am in the market for a new deck. i will be going after the zapco deck later this year, but i was thinking about either the cd5000 or the 7000. after playing with it, is the 7000 worth the price?

6spdcoupe
03-24-2006, 03:22 AM
That would depend. From a consumer standpoint if your using all of the features then IMO yes. Although its hard for me to view it from a consumer standpoint.

bri487
03-24-2006, 03:26 AM
That would depend. From a consumer standpoint if your using all of the features then IMO yes. Although its hard for me to view it from a consumer standpoint.

i wouldnt be using any of its processing features, as i have the zapco dc's. but overall SQ, is it cleaner than the previous models. noise and what not?

6spdcoupe
03-24-2006, 03:28 AM
i wouldnt be using any of its processing features, as i have the zapco dc's. but overall SQ, is it cleaner than the previous models. noise and what not?


In that case I doubt youll notice any difference between the former models.

I use the DXE so not much use for features for me either, but for customers eyes they want to see it.

skierxx5556
03-24-2006, 03:34 AM
Will i notice a dif in sq? lol

6spdcoupe
03-24-2006, 03:37 AM
Ummm YES

skierxx5556
03-24-2006, 03:38 AM
Ummm YES

Alright good thats what I like to hear! I cant wait to get this bad boy installed!!!

6spdcoupe
03-24-2006, 03:44 AM
I cant wait to See you with it installed.

adam71
03-24-2006, 04:41 AM
It would make no sense if it did- being behind the face not only is a cd slot but one one slot for the magicgate memory card. Who wants their fingers caught while trying to remove/insert the memory card;)

Oh ok, I see where we are getting each other confused. We are talking about 2 different things:p: . I was talking about when putting a disc in that the face automatically slides up and closes. You were talking about when ejecting a CD or manually opening the face. My Pioneer only automatically closes when insterting a disc. If it is opened manually or if a disc is ejected the face will stay open til manually closed.

blue
03-24-2006, 11:37 AM
Why oh why won't Eclipse put off their spage ace , cheap plastic looking construction and start building decks with high quality construction faceplates that don't break ? Their SQ is so good , they should start looking at SQ oriented decks that embrace form following function ..... Instead they shoot for the blinking lights , laser show , youth oriented crowd at the expense of pure SQ in mind...... Personally I'd pay Eclipse $500 more just to be able to buy a no-frills , kick you in the *** SQ deck that has simplicity and superb build quality.
Oh well ..... There's still Clarion , Nak , and Pioneer that builds competition level decks, I just wish Eclipse would join suit. JMO
PS : I've owned 4 of Eclipse's top of the line decks in the past 8 yrs , and 3 of them have had malfunctioning faceplate issues. This is where my question and opinions are based from.

headless
03-24-2006, 12:44 PM
:( ***** you've had bad luck with the faceplates :/ I've had 2 eclipse decks this far and no faceplate issues though i've abused them both pretty badly and had cd's jammed in one a couple times for 30seconds or so, mid-close. Moving parts is the liability. Wonder if they'll ever go back to non-motorized faces

3.5Max6spd
03-24-2006, 01:01 PM
Why oh why won't Eclipse put off their spage ace , cheap plastic looking construction and start building decks with high quality construction faceplates that don't break ? Their SQ is so good , they should start looking at SQ oriented decks that embrace form following function ..... Instead they shoot for the blinking lights , laser show , youth oriented crowd at the expense of pure SQ in mind...... Personally I'd pay Eclipse $500 more just to be able to buy a no-frills , kick you in the *** SQ deck that has simplicity and superb build quality.
Oh well ..... There's still Clarion , Nak , and Pioneer that builds competition level decks, I just wish Eclipse would join suit.

If the american market supported such a product- i'm sure they would...
http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/eclipse/smonitor/index.html

blue
03-24-2006, 01:06 PM
If the american market supported such a product- i'm sure they would...
http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/eclipse/smonitor/index.html
Heck yeah !!! That's the stuff I'm talking about.

headless
03-24-2006, 01:07 PM
If the american market supported such a product- i'm sure they would...
http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/eclipse/smonitor/index.html

Wow. Those look totally awesome -- appear to have all the features TA and X-OVer and PEQ wise as the CD8454/CD8455's too...

blue
03-24-2006, 01:08 PM
If the american market supported such a product- i'm sure they would...
http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/eclipse/smonitor/index.html
The Clarion has a fine following .... I mean , just how many would they have to sell to make it worth it ? :eyebrow:

blue
03-24-2006, 01:20 PM
Best SQ head units I have owned in order are :

Clarion DRZ-9255
Alpine CD-7909 ( 20th anniv )
Mc Intosh MX-400
Eclipse ughh.... I forget ... Is it 5331 maybe ? This was about 7 or 8 yrs ago.
Alpine CDA-7998

BodegaBay
03-24-2006, 02:41 PM
My Pioneer only automatically closes when insterting a disc. If it is opened manually or if a disc is ejected the face will stay open til manually closed.

That's a pretty good design and logic with a motorized faceplate, Kenwood does the same. It's a happy medium to Alpine and Eclipse. Alpine does both -- timed (albeit short) and auto (inserted) close. The newer Eclipse stays open until you manually close it yourself; I don't remember this being true in the 8443/8053 but I know the recent 8455 started implementing this.

skierxx5556
03-24-2006, 02:53 PM
How lazy can you guys really be that it becomes a hastle when you have to push one button twice! Its really not that big a deal if you ask me...

bri487
03-24-2006, 02:56 PM
Why oh why won't Eclipse put off their spage ace , cheap plastic looking construction and start building decks with high quality construction faceplates that don't break ? Their SQ is so good , they should start looking at SQ oriented decks that embrace form following function ..... Instead they shoot for the blinking lights , laser show , youth oriented crowd at the expense of pure SQ in mind...... Personally I'd pay Eclipse $500 more just to be able to buy a no-frills , kick you in the *** SQ deck that has simplicity and superb build quality.
Oh well ..... There's still Clarion , Nak , and Pioneer that builds competition level decks, I just wish Eclipse would join suit. JMO
PS : I've owned 4 of Eclipse's top of the line decks in the past 8 yrs , and 3 of them have had malfunctioning faceplate issues. This is where my question and opinions are based from.

look for the zapco deck. no fancy features there, just plain SQ. the new avn-7000 has that super deep glossy look like the McIntosh products.

BodegaBay
03-24-2006, 03:01 PM
Not lazy Skierr. They are just observations and ultimately a personal preference for any user. It's just interesting to see how different companies interpret ergonomics and user interface for their products. Some are very Japanese and technically centric while others rely on focus groups.

blue
03-24-2006, 05:11 PM
Funny .... You usually don't think about Kenwood when you speak of really high SQ , but that anniversary deck is bad indeed. I watched it smoke an Alpine 7998 in a friend's car.

BodegaBay
03-24-2006, 05:16 PM
Really Blue? The XXV-01D surprising very good: full bodied and muscial to my ears. It's too bad that it doesn't have an active setting.

I've had three Eclipse 8xxx decks and all are exceptional. I'm just moving on to something with different sonic signature.

blue
03-24-2006, 05:23 PM
Really Blue? The XXV-01D surprising very good: full bodied and muscial to my ears. It's too bad that it doesn't have an active setting.

I've had three Eclipse 8xxx decks and all are exceptional. I'm just moving on to something with different sonic signature.
He he he .... No no , in this case my use of the word " bad " is good !!! It really did suprise me coming from Kenwood , but yeah ... it's a VERY good SQ deck indeed !

BodegaBay
03-24-2006, 05:27 PM
I knew that! I was more suprised that it "smoked" the Alpine. I know this Kenwood is better than Alpines current offerings (MUCH more full bodied sound) but I didn't realize you witnessed first hand the beating it gave to the 7998. Wished I could have been there! :p

3.5Max6spd
03-24-2006, 05:32 PM
The Clarion has a fine following .... I mean , just how many would they have to sell to make it worth it ? :eyebrow:

The Clarion sells peanuts. You have to realize the online/audiophile community is very small percentage of sales. Bling sells. So those that dont have money to splurge on JDM units and external processing have to find the better value/performance amongst the bling.

Also most of the new cars are incorporating more colors into their instrument panel/interior illumination...particularly European cars.

2kchevy06civic
03-24-2006, 05:32 PM
has to be the sexiest headunit I've seen in a while, how much does one of these things cost?

blue
03-24-2006, 05:44 PM
Really Blue? The XXV-01D surprising very good: full bodied and muscial to my ears. It's too bad that it doesn't have an active setting.

I've had three Eclipse 8xxx decks and all are exceptional. I'm just moving on to something with different sonic signature.
Ya know ... mixing and matching components , wires , ect is just like playing with tone controls. That has been my good fortune and forte' over the years. Owning most all of the higher end equipment allows you to find out just what does , and what does not go well together. Eclipse decks at one time were warm and musical , but with a slight lacking in dynamics. After about '98 though they became VERY detailed and anylitycal , but lacked in musicality for my taste. They still do lack in warmth and musicality to me. I've made a habit of matching Eclipse decks with warmer sounding equipment and speakers in the last 6 years.
That brings up an interesting point ..... ALL equipment basically leans towards one camp or another ..... clean , snappy , fast , anylitycal, and dynamic .... OR smooth , relaxed , warm and musical. It's VERY , VERY rare to find a piece of equipment that does both really well , and combines all of the mentioned attributes. When you DO find that combo , you usuall pay MIGHTILY for it , for it is the ticket to perfection , or as close as reproduced sound can come to it.
At this time , the Clarion DRZ-9255 is about as close as one can come to that without going to separate DAC units. I describe it to people as warm , detailed , life like , and dynamic. Those usually do NOT go together as i've said before.
Lastly , when i owned my high end home audio store some years ago , I started talking with my 5 salesmen about trying to find out what EACH customer was listening for. We did this by taking them to one system first that was fast and dynamic , almost anylitycal ..... then by taking them to a smoother and more laid back system. It was easy to tell what they preferred really quickly , and our sales went up for the next 12 months by 44% !!!! Occasionally someone would want the best of both worlds , and bought the systems that would give them the best of both .... They usually spent over $30,000 at that point ... Cha-ching $$$
Here's a freebie for ya ..... Need to liven up your system some ? Buy some Rockford Fosgate Riot Matrix cables ( interconnects and speaker wires ) .... Need to subdue a lively system some ? Get some Stinger Pro Series speaker cable ( it's cheap ) and Dream Series Interconnects .....
Got a well balanced system and want a VERY neutral cable ? Buy Streetwires ZN6 interconnects and DAXX silver/copper hybrid speaker wires.
**** , that coffee REALLY kicked in !!! LOL

blue
03-24-2006, 05:51 PM
The Clarion sells peanuts. You have to realize the online/audiophile community is very small percentage of sales. Bling sells. So those that dont have money to splurge on JDM units and external processing have to find the better value/performance amongst the bling.

Also most of the new cars are incorporating more colors into their instrument panel/interior illumination...particularly European cars.
No doubt , the new Eclipse decks are really good , and they will sell well due to their good sound to lower price ratio ..... But there is obviously a distinction between the Eclipse line and TRULY high end products ... ( like Eclipse Japan models ) ..... I would never suggest an Eclipse HU to someone looking for the very best SQ units , but to anyone looking for all the bling along with great sound they are perfect , and i WILL be telling people to look hard at the Eclipse units .... And Don , I will tell them to call you first ..... Big sloppy kiss ... LOL:yumyum: :eyebrow: :eyebrow:

BodegaBay
03-24-2006, 05:56 PM
Blue, did you just get out of a race and still on andrenaline high? You've been very active with your posts in the last 8 hours!

blue
03-24-2006, 06:24 PM
Blue, did you just get out of a race and still on andrenaline high? You've been very active with your posts in the last 8 hours!
No , but I did have to wait all day for UPS ..... So I've had time to post ***** a little ....

ngsm13
03-24-2006, 06:30 PM
WOW, I love look of the JDM double din navigation... with the small swing out control panel on the bottom...

http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/eclipse/navi/index.html

nG

Randy Savage
03-24-2006, 06:36 PM
Why does Japan always get the good stuff? :(

3.5Max6spd
03-24-2006, 06:40 PM
WOW, I love look of the JDM double din navigation... with the small swing out control panel on the bottom...

http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/eclipse/navi/index.html

nG

Isnt the animation of the navi display sick! hehe..

Man, one day.....one day.... I'll go crazy and import one of those Sound Monitors

ngsm13
03-24-2006, 06:44 PM
Isnt the animation of the navi display sick! hehe..

Man, one day.....one day.... I'll go crazy and import one of those Sound Monitors

Indeed it does. Simply amazing.

Maybe one day for me as well... long after I'm already living comfortably...

My one day will certainly be further off than yours though :(

nG

alphakenny1
03-24-2006, 06:45 PM
Why does Japan always get the good stuff? :(

they prefer quality over bling?

Eugenics
03-24-2006, 06:49 PM
i thought there was a sound processor coming out

headless
03-24-2006, 06:55 PM
Holy ****. I wonder what it'd cost in USD to get your hands on that AVN8805HD.

FoxPro5
03-24-2006, 07:54 PM
Why does Japan always get the good stuff? :(

Yea....even the website is hella cool yo :yumyum:

**Edit: I can't belive I just said that**

6spdcoupe
03-24-2006, 08:52 PM
i thought there was a sound processor coming out

Not as of yet, but may be in the works. Something along the lines of the DCU105

mikegett
03-24-2006, 11:16 PM
The eclipse-japan website posts the price in yen next to the product. Just do a us conversion online. The Navi's are sweet but, but won't work with the US satelites. For sound quality, the Asian eclipse line won't sound any better. They use the exact same deck and processors. There high end line tends to be the US high end with E-ilan control. I still have a Eclipse, in dash mini disk tuner and changer. Purchased in 97 and styled after the 5053. The sound monitor is the way to go for high end. I am still kicking myself for not purchasing one a few years ago. My company discount (and yours 6spdcoupe ;) ) knocks off a pretty good chunck. But a few years ago the yen was down by nearly 15 percent compared to today. The sound monitor was about 500.
Eclipse will keep with making a quality cd HU, but most of the drive is in Car Infotainment. Even in the OEM division (where I am) they are stressing it. DVD and navigation units like the 7000 will be the priority for the next five years.

OldOneEye
03-26-2006, 12:48 PM
Isnt the animation of the navi display sick! hehe..

Man, one day.....one day.... I'll go crazy and import one of those Sound Monitors

Keep looking on that sight, its just **** sick. 4 disc in dash DVD changer, plus built in hard drive, plus the 3D mapping on one of the units. Also most of the features of the CD7000 sound processor.

http://www.fujitsu-ten.co.jp/eclipse/navi/avn8805hd/index.html

Its showing 330,000 yen, which is $2800 bucks (not a crazy amount more than a AVN7000)

lubetek
03-26-2006, 01:04 PM
that knob is fugly. The rest of the Hu looks nice.

Hundreth
03-26-2006, 02:35 PM
Does the remote still change the volume incredibly slow? Drives me insane on my 8445. Something they should definately fix...

Eugenics
03-26-2006, 02:42 PM
the jap ones dont work with american cd's... everyone knows this

Speedyd718
03-26-2006, 08:41 PM
this ain't got nuthin to do with anything but i had to let someone know. i'm gettin a 7000 for $350 BNIB. frat bruh's a manager at CC and is ordering one for me. WHOOO!!!!!

6spdcoupe
03-26-2006, 09:03 PM
that knob is fugly. The rest of the Hu looks nice.


Its really not all That bad in person. Although functionality is Much better than the previous versions..

6spdcoupe
03-26-2006, 09:04 PM
Does the remote still change the volume incredibly slow? Drives me insane on my 8445. Something they should definately fix...


dunno never used any of my remotes. Its still packaged, I just use the one on the steering wheel.

MadAudio
03-27-2006, 03:10 AM
had a chance to play around with one of these a few weeks ago local CC got some in so i went down to check them out thinking i might switch from my 8445 .
the first thing i noticed about the deck was the first thing i didnt like .. and thats the face . i will admit the 8445 and 8455 got the same reaction from alot of people but the 7000's face felt dare i say.... lower quality than i expected from eclipse not the buttons mind you but the face itself not really crappy just not what i expected . im also not into the one button controls the world thing i like having my controls seperated somewhat like the dual knobs on my 8445

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1042/cd70001ra.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9891/cd84457nk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

that bieng said it sounded as high quality as expected ( they had a whole eclipse demo set up)had all the bells and whistles you would expect and has a nicer screen.

TheBigDu
03-27-2006, 04:42 AM
had a chance to play around with one of these a few weeks ago local CC got some in so i went down to check them out thinking i might switch from my 8445 .
the first thing i noticed about the deck was the first thing i didnt like .. and thats the face . i will admit the 8445 and 8455 got the same reaction from alot of people but the 7000's face felt dare i say.... lower quality than i expected from eclipse not the buttons mind you but the face itself not really crappy just not what i expected . im also not into the one button controls the world thing i like having my controls seperated somewhat like the dual knobs on my 8445

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1042/cd70001ra.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9891/cd84457nk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

that bieng said it sounded as high quality as expected ( they had a whole eclipse demo set up)had all the bells and whistles you would expect and has a nicer screen.
I don't have too much experience with previous Eclipse decks. I've played with one 8455, and it did seem to be built very solidly. The 7000 (which I have now) seems to have nearly equal quality; it feels solid overall. But I know what you mean with your complaints also. The 5-way control is definitely my least favorite thing about it, it took some seroius getting-used-to and I'm still having a hard time getting it to do one thing instead of another once in while. The prest buttons also seem a little messy.

The worst part about this deck for me is that, coming from a 9835, it gains a few features and definitly some SQ improvement, but the Alpine had a few more logical features and yes, probably a slightly better build quality (except for the grinding noise when the faceplate moved). Example: Why does the Eclipse, in 2006, not have a dedicated pause/play button, which Alpine has had for years? I know I can pause with "3" while listening to CDs in the unit, but strangely this doesn't work for CDs in the changer. :waycrazy: Another example is the screen. The quality is up to snuff with the biolite, and better in some regards due to the color, but the font Eclipse chose is horrible for readability (or maybe just because I'm used to the biolite font, which was the easiest to read I've ever seen).

I'm sure after a short while longer, I'll learn to forget about these quirks and enjoy the HU for what it is instead of being aggrivated over what it lacks.

TheBigDu
03-27-2006, 04:54 AM
While I'm at it, I forgot something. Another example of stupid logic:

When a CD is in the HU slot, a small "In" logo with a CD appears in the bottom left corner of the screen, which is also where the volume displays when you raise/lower it. Whoever laid it all out didn't have the foresight to move the volume display so that it doesn't appear directly over the disc-in logo, because basically, if there's a disc in the HU and you change the volume, you can't read the volume level for sh*t unless you want to get really close to the HU, which isn't so easy when you're driving.

:furious: I'm not really that angry, but ****, c'mon people...

MadAudio
03-28-2006, 12:09 AM
I don't have too much experience with previous Eclipse decks. I've played with one 8455, and it did seem to be built very solidly. The 7000 (which I have now) seems to have nearly equal quality; it feels solid overall. But I know what you mean with your complaints also. The 5-way control is definitely my least favorite thing about it, it took some seroius getting-used-to and I'm still having a hard time getting it to do one thing instead of another once in while. The prest buttons also seem a little messy.

The worst part about this deck for me is that, coming from a 9835, it gains a few features and definitly some SQ improvement, but the Alpine had a few more logical features and yes, probably a slightly better build quality (except for the grinding noise when the faceplate moved). Example: Why does the Eclipse, in 2006, not have a dedicated pause/play button, which Alpine has had for years? I know I can pause with "3" while listening to CDs in the unit, but strangely this doesn't work for CDs in the changer. :waycrazy: Another example is the screen. The quality is up to snuff with the biolite, and better in some regards due to the color, but the font Eclipse chose is horrible for readability (or maybe just because I'm used to the biolite font, which was the easiest to read I've ever seen).

I'm sure after a short while longer, I'll learn to forget about these quirks and enjoy the HU for what it is instead of being aggrivated over what it lacks.


i have to agree with you on the "logical" features thing, be glad though my 8445 doesnt pause at all :( .i went from a premier 840mp to the 8445 and the first thing i missed was the play/pause the second thing i missed was the premiers remote it was speedy had nice features and worked from almost any direction. the eclipse remote is horrible almost useless uber slow volume slow button reaction making going back a track or two tricky in direct sunlight.also the premier had a few nice features for controlling the face plate such as staying open.. closing in the specified time ( had 3 preset times i think) and a few other things . but after owning it for about a year now i gotta say i love it although it took a while for it to grow on me . after i stopped missing the old deck and started learning how to use the new one properly i quickly learned what i got in trade cause hot **** it sounds good :)
im sure u will end up loving yours to

ngsm13
03-28-2006, 12:42 AM
this ain't got nuthin to do with anything but i had to let someone know. i'm gettin a 7000 for $350 BNIB. frat bruh's a manager at CC and is ordering one for me. WHOOO!!!!!

If he didn't do it, I woulda had your back ;)...

nG

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 12:54 AM
this ain't got nuthin to do with anything but i had to let someone know. i'm gettin a 7000 for $350 BNIB. frat bruh's a manager at CC and is ordering one for me. WHOOO!!!!!


Sure glad I didnt pay that much for mine...

slick rick
03-28-2006, 01:35 AM
Sure glad I didnt pay that much for mine...

you sir do not count...;)

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 01:38 AM
you sir do not count...;)


why not bish? :D

Lizardking
03-28-2006, 01:40 AM
****...huge Eclipse mark up.....no wonder the quality ***** now days..

slick rick
03-28-2006, 01:40 AM
because you are an authorized dealer of that radio and I am the normal consumer. :(

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 01:43 AM
****...huge Eclipse mark up.....no wonder the quality ***** now days..


The price listed above and what I paid isnt "dealer cost" its actually below it. In his case it "employee accomodation" which is also usually followed with strict rules.

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 01:45 AM
because you are an authorized dealer of that radio and I am the normal consumer. :(


Oh hush hater

There is nothing normal about you. :D

slick rick
03-28-2006, 01:47 AM
Oh hush hater

There is nothing normal about you. :D

affirmative.

Lizardking
03-28-2006, 01:50 AM
How do you feel about the quality? Every dealer of Eclipse I've spoken with in the last year has really complained about the quality of the Eclipse decks.. I had the Eclipse AVN5495 awhile back it was the worse unit I've every owned.. The SQ was really horrible and it had NO useful sound shaping features. The graphic EQ was a joke. I've been eyeballing the new AVN6600 with parametric and crossover settings..

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 01:56 AM
How do you feel about the quality? Every dealer of Eclipse I've spoken with in the last year has really complained about the quality of the Eclipse decks.. I had the Eclipse AVN5495 awhile back it was the worse unit I've every owned.. The SQ was really horrible and it had NO useful sound shaping features. The graphic EQ was a joke. I've been eyeballing the new AVN6600 with parametric and crossover settings..


Ive had absolutely no problems, with the exception of several years back and skipping (hence the name Eskips).

The 5495 is more for practicality, not for tuning a system. If you wanted that, look into the AVN7000 or 5000 with the DCU105 add-on.

Lizardking
03-28-2006, 02:06 AM
Ive had absolutely no problems, with the exception of several years back and skipping (hence the name Eskips).

The 5495 is more for practicality, not for tuning a system. If you wanted that, look into the AVN7000 or 5000 with the DCU105 add-on.

I like the double din look.... I thought about the AVN7000, but by the time you add everything needed you're looking at $3000. I think the AVN6600 might be more up my alley this go around.. All my tuning will be done by the the Zapco DSP6-SL with my laptop when it arrives in a week.

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 02:18 AM
I like the double din look.... I thought about the AVN7000, but by the time you add everything needed you're looking at $3000. I think the AVN6600 might be more up my alley this go around.. All my tuning will be done by the the Zapco DSP6-SL with my laptop when it arrives in a week.

Depends where ya buy it from. ;)

Lizardking
03-28-2006, 02:28 AM
Depends where ya buy it from. ;)


You are the man!!:p: If I'm planning on having the DSP6 do all my tuning, then having a headunit with tuning features I won't use, won't give me any benefit. I was even thinking about the CD7000 but then again features I won't use.

slick rick
03-28-2006, 02:30 AM
Haha yes "the Don" is the man...

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 02:31 AM
You are the man!!:p: If I'm planning on having the DSP6 do all my tuning, then having a headunit with tuning features I won't use, won't give me any benefit. I was even thinking about the CD7000 but then again features I won't use.


I may even be able to help ya out on the DSP6, if you havent already bought it...

Lizardking
03-28-2006, 02:38 AM
The DSP6's hit the water a couple weeks ago and should be at the dealers very soon. I have a Zapco dealer in Bloomsburg, Pa and it wouldn't be right for me to stray....He's a great guy that's been there when I've needed him. You are my Rainbow dealer though!!! now I know about you...;) :D

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 02:45 AM
Not a problem and I completey understand. From a retailer point of view I certainly can appreciate your loyalty to him.

Lizardking
03-28-2006, 02:48 AM
Not a problem and I completey understand. From a retailer point of view I certainly can appreciate your loyalty to him.

It's hard to find a great dealer that cares about the customer as much as the sale!! What's nice about Jason is that he only does at as a hobby so making the sale isn't that big of a deal.:)

6spdcoupe
03-28-2006, 02:49 AM
Sounds like me and him would get along great as we view our jobs the same way.

TheBigDu
03-28-2006, 10:44 AM
Well I think I figured out how I'm going to pause the stereo while the changer is playing if I ever want to. You have to hold the source button for a second until it beeps, then let go and the unit will go into "standby" mode. Then hit it again to come out of standby mode. Sure, it takes like 5 seconds for the song to start playing again, but it's something.

skierxx5556
03-28-2006, 11:34 AM
Or you could just switch it over to tuner and then switch it back...

slick rick
03-28-2006, 12:30 PM
is this the longest thread in the h/u section...?

TheBigDu
03-28-2006, 01:12 PM
is this the longest thread in the h/u section...?
:offtopic:































:D

blue
03-28-2006, 02:00 PM
Or you could just switch it over to tuner and then switch it back...
Or you could buy a REAL head unit that has a pause button .... LOL
Derek .... you asked for THAT Bro !! ;)

forbidden
03-30-2006, 12:22 AM
Ok, you ****. All of our units are on B/O. We get no CD4000, no more CD5000 (geez, thanks they sent me 1) and no CD7000, no XA2000, XA4000 or XA5000. WTF - GRRRRR. It's like stuff hits the border and magically dissappears into 3.5's car all the time.

OldOneEye
03-30-2006, 01:09 AM
Are the XA2000/4000/5000 shipping yet anyway? I didn't think they were.

Juan



Ok, you ****. All of our units are on B/O. We get no CD4000, no more CD5000 (geez, thanks they sent me 1) and no CD7000, no XA2000, XA4000 or XA5000. WTF - GRRRRR. It's like stuff hits the border and magically dissappears into 3.5's car all the time.

6spdcoupe
03-30-2006, 01:27 AM
Ok, you ****. All of our units are on B/O. We get no CD4000, no more CD5000 (geez, thanks they sent me 1) and no CD7000, no XA2000, XA4000 or XA5000. WTF - GRRRRR. It's like stuff hits the border and magically dissappears into 3.5's car all the time.


Teeheheheh I have All the HUs, not sure on the amps. I gotta check as I dont sell them too often.

slick rick
03-30-2006, 01:31 AM
Teeheheheh I have All the HUs, not sure on the amps. I gotta check as I dont sell them too often.

wait if you don't sell many Eclipse amps, what do you sell? arc audio??????????

6spdcoupe
03-30-2006, 02:03 AM
Doh ! And you know this...

ALthough I should be getting in a few Rainbow Kraftwerks soon, as well as a few Alumapro amps to play with. :D

slick rick
03-30-2006, 02:08 AM
ok no clue on those but they sound interesting...specs yet?

6spdcoupe
03-30-2006, 02:10 AM
yea I have some...

TheBigDu
03-30-2006, 03:24 AM
Can't you guys make your minds up about which forum to use? :crazy:

(Besides, the colors are nicer over at the org anyway....:) )

91fairladyz
03-30-2006, 01:01 PM
Does anyone know if the 7000 or 5000 do RDS?

TheBigDu
03-30-2006, 06:47 PM
Does anyone know if the 7000 or 5000 do RDS?
I haven't found it anywhere on the 7000, so I don't think so.

Hundreth
03-30-2006, 06:59 PM
I haven't found it anywhere on the 7000, so I don't think so.

Hey, I saw your post about that problem you were having with the 7000 over @ the org. Not a member there yet, I just got a max so I was just lurking. I was wondering if you ever got it figured out though. I was gonna tell you that I think its the HU's ground and that when I put the Multi-Harmonizer option on with my headunit, I also get some strange high pitched noises coming out of my speakers. But that has nothing to do with my sub hitting so I doubt thats your problem.

Anyways aside from the babbling, didja figure it out?

TheBigDu
03-30-2006, 07:12 PM
Hey, I saw your post about that problem you were having with the 7000 over @ the org. Not a member there yet, I just got a max so I was just lurking. I was wondering if you ever got it figured out though. I was gonna tell you that I think its the HU's ground and that when I put the Multi-Harmonizer option on with my headunit, I also get some strange high pitched noises coming out of my speakers. But that has nothing to do with my sub hitting so I doubt thats your problem.

Anyways aside from the babbling, didja figure it out?
Hey, thanks for the concern. Unfortunately, I haven't had a lot of time to look at it yet, but the HU ground is one of the things I've got to check on. I don't have the harmonizer on, so I don't think that's the problem. I'll work on it when I have some time and I'll let you guys know what it was. Thanks!

Lizardking
03-31-2006, 07:48 PM
Excellent headunit!! I've been using it for about 2 hours and love it....

forbidden
04-01-2006, 09:15 PM
GRRRRR... no CD7000's but I do have a lovely set of Focal Quad coil 18's here.....

Lizardking
04-01-2006, 09:51 PM
got pictures???

atomicflush
04-03-2006, 02:11 AM
How good is the CD7000 at FM reception ?

How good is it with HD Radio reception ?

6spdcoupe
04-03-2006, 02:13 AM
GRRRRR... no CD7000's but I do have a lovely set of Focal Quad coil 18's here.....


Wanna trade? :D

Lizardking
04-03-2006, 02:15 AM
How good is the CD7000 at FM reception ?

How good is it with HD Radio reception ?

Radio sensitivity is 15dbf so you can imagine its not the best..

TheBigDu
04-03-2006, 02:23 AM
Radio sensitivity is 15dbf so you can imagine its not the best..
Yeah, but I would say it's at least equal to my Alpine which was IIRC 13dbf.

HD Radio requires a $430.00 tuner (at least the one I saw), so I can't tell you how good the reception is on that. :D

adam71
04-03-2006, 08:07 AM
HD Radio requires a $430.00 tuner (at least the one I saw), so I can't tell you how good the reception is on that. :D

Seriously?? Alot of the newer decks are coming out with them on board and that hasn't over inflated the cost of the newer decks either. What is Eclipse trying to prove with that?:eyebrow:

TheBigDu
04-03-2006, 09:30 AM
Seriously?? Alot of the newer decks are coming out with them on board and that hasn't over inflated the cost of the newer decks either. What is Eclipse trying to prove with that?:eyebrow:
Naa, they're pretty much all "HD Radio Ready" and require the tuners to actually receive HD, just like with satellite. Take a look on Crutchfield.

And I just checked again; Eclipse's is $430 like I thought.

adam71
04-03-2006, 09:41 AM
I stand corrected. There are a few on there that have on board tuners but not many. Thats an awful high price to pay seeing how HD will get killed by satellite radio anyway.

TheBigDu
04-03-2006, 09:44 AM
Actually, Alpine's tuner is only $250. I'm not sure why Eclipse's is so high...

OldOneEye
04-03-2006, 11:10 AM
JVC has figured out a way to make an MP3 player with HD built in for about $300. I don't know why the Alpine, Eclipse or Kenwood ones are so much dough, and so HUGE.

Juan

TheBigDu
04-03-2006, 01:24 PM
JVC has figured out a way to make an MP3 player with HD built in for about $300. I don't know why the Alpine, Eclipse or Kenwood ones are so much dough, and so HUGE.

Juan
Yeah, that is a bit ridiculous, but the JVC probably skimps out on everything else (i.e. SQ).

Haha....it's funny actually....you can buy one of those JVC head units for $150 less than you'd pay for the Eclipse HD tuner.

OldOneEye
04-03-2006, 10:10 PM
Question is, how much does it really cost to add HD? Seriously, that seems like a huge amount of money, and the HD tuners are HUGE. Look at the Terk XM Direct, pretty small. Ditto the Sirius Connect pieces. I just don't really get it at this point.

Juan



Yeah, that is a bit ridiculous, but the JVC probably skimps out on everything else (i.e. SQ).

Haha....it's funny actually....you can buy one of those JVC head units for $150 less than you'd pay for the Eclipse HD tuner.