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kingsxman
03-09-2006, 07:49 AM
Down to these 2. I'm working with wholesaler to replace all my stuff that was just stolen. Had decided on CDA-9855 as deck but have heard so many things about the Eclipse that I had to post one final time for a comparison from people who have used both.
Glide touch: wont bug me as it sounds like I'll get used to it.
Preamp outs: Advantage Eclipse. I know Eclipse has 8v preamp outs and Alpine has 4 volt.

However, a big thing for me is ability to do quick EQ Adjustements for Sub level. I know the Alpine is setup so that you push the volume button and Sub level is first thing on the menu...so thats nice. I have heard a couple different stories on the 8445 so I'm wondering for sure how you adjust it. Still curious which has the better overall EQ.

I think both have about the same level of time adjustment.

So..let me know your final opinions. I can get the Alpine via the insurance company...Eclipse I have to "go the extra mile" so to speak to get it.

ws6ownzyou
03-09-2006, 09:29 AM
you seem to be inquiring about the exact same head units i inquired a bout, it came down to these 3:

eclipse 8445
alpine 9855
kenwood xxv-01d

i talked to people with all 3, went to different stores and played with all 3 and also got to talk to about 10 different people that owned all 3. i chose the kenwood and it is simply awesome.

kingsxman
03-09-2006, 10:32 AM
I havent considered the Kenwood. What made you choose that over the others?

3.5Max6spd
03-09-2006, 10:38 AM
8455 offers better fronstage tuning than the Alpine, plus 24bitdacs and better preouts. The 9855 is more of an mp3 control oriented hu w/ the glidestrip.

The Kenwood is no match in comparison to those two in terms of tuning- EQ, Time alignment and active crossovers- it simply doesnt offer much, they should've given more audiophile functions rather than graphics.

~Magick_Man~
03-09-2006, 01:19 PM
8455 offers better fronstage tuning than the Alpine, plus 24bitdacs and better preouts. The 9855 is more of an mp3 control oriented hu w/ the glidestrip.

The Kenwood is no match in comparison to those two in terms of tuning- EQ, Time alignment and active crossovers- it simply doesnt offer much, they should've given more audiophile functions rather than graphics.

while the 8455 is a superior unit it probably more than he can/wants to spend.
the 8445 can be had for 300 while it will be atleast 500 probably more for the 8455.
if it was me i would probably go for the alpine out of the 2 he listed since the 8445 cant do active.
but i am not sure about the other features (TA, EQ)

~Magick_Man~

kingsxman
03-09-2006, 02:09 PM
Active isnt a concern for me. I'm mainly interested in SQ, TA, ability to do MP3 and a good EQ with the ability to make adjustments to sub level on the fly.

alphakenny1
03-09-2006, 02:12 PM
out of the two i say 8445. 7 band PEQ, 8v pre out, 55 ohm input impedance.

Intercooler
03-09-2006, 03:22 PM
How did they steal your 5.25's and 6x9's? Did you have extra insurance to cover this stuff?

kingsxman
03-09-2006, 03:50 PM
How did they steal your 5.25's and 6x9's? Did you have extra insurance to cover this stuff?

They didnt get the speakers. (Should have pointed that out..). Found out after talking to the lot attendant that after they watched the video they show the dude pulling into the lot at 4:00 am...taking 1/2 hour to drive from car to car..hitting some fo them. Sounds like the as*hole grabbed the stuff in my cab...then got spooked and left. Came back later and hit my trunk where he got most of the "good stuff".

*****. Insurance is really taking care of me though I have to say. Props to State Farm. I am getting pretty much everything replaced. But I'm going to upgrade a bit on the deck...hence my questions about the 2 HU's.

Intercooler
03-09-2006, 04:34 PM
Only thing I have ever had stolen was a sub/box but it wasn't bolted down. Everything that was they just left. The insurance company wouldn't pay because IT WASN'T bolted down. Was yours? If they paid with it not that is outstanding! I have come to the conclusion if it takes time to get the stuff out they won't bother!

kingsxman
03-09-2006, 04:53 PM
Was not bolted down.

3.5Max6spd
03-09-2006, 05:54 PM
while the 8455 is a superior unit it probably more than he can/wants to spend.
the 8445 can be had for 300 while it will be atleast 500 probably more for the 8455.
if it was me i would probably go for the alpine out of the 2 he listed since the 8445 cant do active.
but i am not sure about the other features (TA, EQ)

~Magick_Man~

My mistake.....that leaves the the alpine as the most flexible unit, but i have to comment on its ease of operation. I find it to be very poorly implemented with too many menu's under one knob and making you use the glidestip to navigate. You also cannot raise or lower volume while you set you xovers/ EQ realtime-which is pointless and a no-no...

FoxPro5
03-09-2006, 06:00 PM
You also cannot raise or lower volume while you set you xovers/ EQ realtime-which is pointless and a no-no...

Which is why I love my Eclipse :)

alphakenny1
03-09-2006, 06:02 PM
yea i totally forget about that real time tuning whenever i talk about eclipse. probably the greatest thing in there. makes tuning so much easier!

3.5Max6spd
03-09-2006, 06:30 PM
yea i totally forget about that real time tuning whenever i talk about eclipse. probably the greatest thing in there. makes tuning so much easier!

Exactly how is one supposed to test the setting one has used with the Alpine? You back out of 30 menus so you can raise your volume just to find out you need to make a change and continue tuning by going through the **** 30 menus again. Now, I'm not a violent person by any means, but I just wanted to bash my brothers face in for getting that POS last summer because tuning was so frustrating and time consuming.

With the eclipse you have the RTN button to back right out of any menu a click or two away.:)

kingsxman
03-09-2006, 09:56 PM
Great points. Well, I guess I'm leaning towards the Eclipse now. I'll find out tomororw if I can pick one up locally.

headless
03-09-2006, 11:20 PM
Armed with my new knowledge of presets, earlier today I got presets set up for 0db on sub out, -3db, -6db, -9db now...i got them set up at lunch today and rode around and tested them tonight. It's 3 button presses to switch to a preset (sound button, click in right nob on the PEQ setting which it remembers as the last one.., then push the # of the preset i want). So i'm very happy about that now :D I've still got 1 slot left for another preset too. Tis pretty nice that it remembers output levels, crossover settings, PEQ settings, and time alignment settings in each preset.

alphakenny1
03-09-2006, 11:33 PM
Armed with my new knowledge of presets, earlier today I got presets set up for 0db on sub out, -3db, -6db, -9db now...i got them set up at lunch today and rode around and tested them tonight. It's 3 button presses to switch to a preset (sound button, click in right nob on the PEQ setting which it remembers as the last one.., then push the # of the preset i want). So i'm very happy about that now :D I've still got 1 slot left for another preset too. Tis pretty nice that it remembers output levels, crossover settings, PEQ settings, and time alignment settings in each preset.

do i get a cookie? :D

3.5Max6spd
03-10-2006, 11:06 AM
Armed with my new knowledge of presets, earlier today I got presets set up for 0db on sub out, -3db, -6db, -9db now...i got them set up at lunch today and rode around and tested them tonight. It's 3 button presses to switch to a preset (sound button, click in right nob on the PEQ setting which it remembers as the last one.., then push the # of the preset i want). So i'm very happy about that now :D I've still got 1 slot left for another preset too. Tis pretty nice that it remembers output levels, crossover settings, PEQ settings, and time alignment settings in each preset.

how kick *** is that!? Man, i'm such a slow poke i never used all the great features/conveniences that deck had to offer. Glad you guys are loving your decks.:)

headless
03-10-2006, 11:14 AM
I don't have any cookies but i made some ******* brownies... you can have one of them kenny :D

And it's totally ******* 3.5max. I'm totally diggin' the rainbows... gonna get my install thread up this weekend :D