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~Magick_Man~
03-05-2006, 10:26 PM
i am looking to replace my cdt hd mids with one of these.
the daytons would be a perfect drop in fit but the AA's would require some modification to the door/window to get the depth needed.
which isnt really a problem but even with the change i might still have depth issues especially with the uber excursion. :crazy:

SLAMMED please chime in.

and i will have my dayton tweets in soon crossed at 1.8-2k so i am not worried about any of the problems with the dayton playing up high.

thanks,
~Magick_Man~

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 10:47 PM
I waited for the ology mids
then the daytons were the new thing
but those AA's have so much more excursion than the daytons and they can take more power

ngsm13
03-05-2006, 11:01 PM
Indeed.

**** that ghey ology ****.
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=238440&page=4&pp=40

I'd go with the AA mids hands down. And yes, I own 4 of them

nG

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:06 PM
server busy....pffttt
Im just waiting for an email from AA for a price quote :D

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:18 PM
seriously whats up with this... they are taking longer than when they were with adire to get thier stuff out...

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:25 PM
i think RE takes the cake for longest...

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Indeed.

**** that ghey ology ****.
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=238440&page=4&pp=40

I'd go with the AA mids hands down. And yes, I own 4 of them

nG

hahaha dude feandil is gettin pwn3d so much.... but even still, its not good to badmouth a competitor.

~Magick_Man~
03-05-2006, 11:26 PM
well would the larger size and increased difficulty of install make it worth it?
i just picked up a gallon of resin and alot of crap today so i might make a pair of kick pods for them if it is too difficult to fit them in the door.
and at the moment i will only have about 50-65 watts going to them

~Magick_Man~

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:28 PM
well would the larger size and increased difficulty of install make it worth it?
i just picked up a gallon of resin and alot of crap today so i might make a pair of kick pods for them if it is too difficult to fit them in the door.
and at the moment i will only have about 50-65 watts going to them

~Magick_Man~

bah size doesnt matter. make it fit!

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:29 PM
Baffles wont fix the problem ?

UndercoverPunk
03-05-2006, 11:29 PM
Last time I chescked an RS-7 was larger than an extremis which is larger than a poly mid....

Slammed
03-05-2006, 11:29 PM
Sup magick :)

Im liking the Daytons, Im happy I stayed with them.

They have nice midrange and get pretty low. Not as snappy as my Seas CA18RNX, but gets close. Its a great driver, I have no complaints :)

I dont know much about those Ascendant mids, but I must say that you cant always base your decision on numbers.

ngsm13
03-05-2006, 11:30 PM
server busy....pffttt
Im just waiting for an email from AA for a price quote :D

seriously whats up with this... they are taking longer than when they were with adire to get thier stuff out...

What are you kids talking about?
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/poly_6.5_page.html $35+ shipping each... a steal...

Call them up. Chad and Dale are easy to talk to.

nG

alphakenny1
03-05-2006, 11:30 PM
i say dayton rs. the daytons have been tested and herald as a great mid. many have given great reviews to it even as far as saying that the build quality and performance of the dayton rs is worth a $100 mid. AA we don't know what they are capable of yet. the mids just came out, while the daytons have out for a long time and many DIYers have been extremely happy.

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:31 PM
What are you kids talking about?
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/poly_6.5_page.html $35+ shipping each... a steal...

Call them up. Chad and Dale are easy to talk to.

nG

nah i was talking about ology, not ascendant ;) i too am waiting for a price quote for the Arco set :)...

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:33 PM
What are you kids talking about?
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/poly_6.5_page.html $35+ shipping each... a steal...

Call them up. Chad and Dale are easy to talk to.

nG
They arent open on saturday or sunday :p
I just need a shipping quote and im getting the arco's, diy is a pain sometimes

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:33 PM
wait wast the diff between the arco mid and the poly mid? +/-'s?

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:34 PM
nothing

ngsm13
03-05-2006, 11:34 PM
What about a price quote...what are you waiting for. It's on the website. $199 pre-order, $299 regular price.

nG

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:34 PM
I just need a shipping quote and im getting the arco's, diy is a pain sometimes
100% agree.... and 200 bucks for a 300 dolla comp set its just too good to pass up.

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:34 PM
What about a price quote...what are you waiting for. It's on the website. $199 pre-order, $299 regular price.

nG

shipping quote :)

bimma85
03-05-2006, 11:35 PM
What about a price quote...what are you waiting for. It's on the website. $199 pre-order, $299 regular price.

nG
link no worky :crap:

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:35 PM
ya, shipping :p:

ngsm13
03-05-2006, 11:36 PM
link no worky :crap:

What link?

nG

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:37 PM
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/arco_page.html

that one?

dang whens the T/s gonna be up on those things!

ngsm13
03-05-2006, 11:37 PM
Call them ;)...

nG

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:39 PM
they said they would list the t/s params later this week

bimma85
03-05-2006, 11:39 PM
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/arco_page.html

that one?

dang whens the T/s gonna be up on those things!
:uhoh: yea...website tab for it give me the wrong link :crap:

Gotta call em tomorrow about my atlas 15s anyway :)

~Magick_Man~
03-05-2006, 11:44 PM
well after looking at the poly mid again i thought it was 3 3/8 depth as opposed to the 3 3/16 that it is.
so i would be able to fit that with minimal fuss
the adire sf-7 i had for a while were 3 3/8 and without modifying the door/window i was not able to fit them in there and still get the door panel on
so far it seems that the AA is winning the battle

anybody have more opinions on the Dayton?

~Magick_Man~

ngsm13
03-05-2006, 11:44 PM
WTF?

Is the link not working properly?!?!?

It shows the T/S params, price, etc, etc, etc....

Not that hard ;).

nG

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:45 PM
it wouldnt work when i clicked it
'"server busy"

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:47 PM
^^^ on the mid or the comp set? yea the mids they give all the info, the comp set, they dont give jack squat

UndercoverPunk
03-05-2006, 11:47 PM
Indeed.

**** that ghey ology ****.
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=238440&page=4&pp=40

I'd go with the AA mids hands down. And yes, I own 4 of them

nG




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Randy Savage
03-05-2006, 11:52 PM
Holy ****, Dan jumped on the ....



http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/5110/pwntwagon5sn.png

PWNTwagon.

Eldorado
03-05-2006, 11:53 PM
hey, thats my word !
And yes, he def got on the pwntwagon
He lasted a couple days on SSA but was quicky booted

Randy Savage
03-05-2006, 11:55 PM
I've never seen such technical pwnage.

Dan Wiggins FTW xelleventybillion

OlogyAudio- I know you are in this thread...do yourself a favor and get away from that jackass...you seem like a cool guy.

flakko
03-05-2006, 11:56 PM
serio.... please dylan.... hes giving your company a bad name....serio

UndercoverPunk
03-05-2006, 11:57 PM
serio.... please dylan.... hes giving your company a bad name....serio


:iagree:

ngsm13
03-05-2006, 11:59 PM
Ha ha, you guys never saw that before?!?!? Post #127 FTW!!!

Read the whole thread, gets good like pg. 2-3...

nG

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 12:01 AM
i dunno...
thats a lot of pwnage

iceteebone
03-06-2006, 12:07 AM
i saw this thread before and don't get it. i assume ology is feandil on caf? if not i don't get the point of posting that thread :confused:

bimma85
03-06-2006, 12:10 AM
i saw this thread before and don't get it. i assume ology is feandil on caf? if not i don't get the point of posting that thread :confused:
ology audio is ology audio feandil is feandil

ngsm13
03-06-2006, 12:10 AM
i saw this thread before and don't get it. i assume ology is feandil on caf? if not i don't get the point of posting that thread :confused:

Ology and Feandil are like a joint venture type company...like a partnership as I see it. Both developing under the name Ology...

nG

Randy Savage
03-06-2006, 12:10 AM
Feandil is feandil here.

He miraculously went from not being able to get 2 18"s over 143 dB's to building the bestest speaka eva.

bimma85
03-06-2006, 12:11 AM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/member.php?u=17987 ;)

~Magick_Man~
03-06-2006, 12:12 AM
so um how about those mids... ;)

~Magick_Man~

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 12:12 AM
get the AA's
/ thread

iceteebone
03-06-2006, 12:13 AM
i'm really out of the loop :crazy:

iceteebone
03-06-2006, 12:14 AM
i'm thinking about getting the AA's myself. for $35 a piece can't go wrong

flakko
03-06-2006, 12:16 AM
yea seriously get the AA's they look like the most promising

~Magick_Man~
03-06-2006, 12:16 AM
i'm thinking about getting the AA's myself. for $35 a piece can't go wrong

that is about where i am at the moment

~Magick_Man~

Slammed
03-06-2006, 12:17 AM
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-374

$32.70 each

;)


you dont need all of that xmax in a mid driver....I know ya'll looking at that ;)

Slammed
03-06-2006, 12:21 AM
Daytons play well up to 2.5 khz for me

flakko
03-06-2006, 12:22 AM
looks like the AA's will play well into the 5k area ;)

http://www.ascendantaudio.com/Images/Poly6.5_SPL_impedance.gif

ngsm13
03-06-2006, 12:23 AM
Indeed. I had them well into the 4k region with no problems, even though that not necessarily where I'll keep them

nG

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 12:24 AM
For $2.30 more i think the AA's are worth it.
pwnt ?

flakko
03-06-2006, 12:25 AM
hows the AA's loudness ng? 88spl looks a little low on paper...

edit: also what application? how they installed?

im gonna use my door's side compartment for airpace... hope its enough

Slammed
03-06-2006, 12:25 AM
the poly looks good...I not saying its a bad speaker


Im just letting you know my experience with the Daytons....

Slammed
03-06-2006, 12:26 AM
pwnt ?


http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139686

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 12:27 AM
Im not going to seal mine
IB ftw !

Slammed
03-06-2006, 12:27 AM
and i will have my dayton tweets in soon crossed at 1.8-2k so i am not worried about any of the problems with the dayton playing up high.

thanks,
~Magick_Man~


;)

~Magick_Man~
03-06-2006, 12:27 AM
ng, do you possibly have some pics of the AA, especially the back?
i am thinking about kick pods and hoping i have the space for it.

~Magick_Man~

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 12:27 AM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139686 fa sho :cool:

flakko
03-06-2006, 12:29 AM
Im not going to seal mine
IB ftw !

ported for me! hie hie

ngsm13
03-06-2006, 12:35 AM
Their output is QUITE amazing, I straight dropped them in my sealed fiberglass door pods against my XXX6.5's. The pods are prolly ~.2cubes sealed, and I left the gains the same. They got every bit as loud as the XXX6.5's with have the power (~100rms per side compared to ~200rms per side). They're very clean, musically accurate, and extend pretty high very well. I had a little problems with some standing waves/reflections on the interior of the fiberglass...nothing that couldn't be solved with some interior treatment to the fiberglass.

I'm going to still be using the 4poly mids I have in my HT, my XXX6.5's will remain as my permanent car audio mids.

nG

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 12:37 AM
ported for me! hie hie
stealth> out in the open :p:

flakko
03-06-2006, 12:40 AM
lol mine has to be out in the open.... need the ebrake ;)

OlogyAudio
03-06-2006, 03:22 AM
Indeed.

**** that ghey ology ****.
http://www.caraudioforum.com/vbb3/showthread.php?t=238440&page=4&pp=40

I'd go with the AA mids hands down. And yes, I own 4 of them

nG

I told feandil (Matt) to stop talking... Thats about all I have to say -- I'll explain everything about the techs in the white papers but there are more important things that need done first -- other than that AA mid looks like it has serious potential to be the new best value out there. I would love to compare them to the RS drivers first hand.

UndercoverPunk
03-06-2006, 03:31 AM
ng, do you possibly have some pics of the AA, especially the back?
i am thinking about kick pods and hoping i have the space for it.

~Magick_Man~

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1562/feb040069nh.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feb040069nh.jpg)
not the best but it's all i have w/o pulling them out.... which I can't get done because I'm always listening to them.

~Magick_Man~
03-06-2006, 08:21 AM
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1562/feb040069nh.th.jpg (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feb040069nh.jpg)
not the best but it's all i have w/o pulling them out.... which I can't get done because I'm always listening to them.

hmm so the back of these is pretty small, i just might be able to fit them after all.
i guess i will be orderign a pair today.

UndercoverPunk, in your review you mentioned about some tensil slap. how much power did you have giong to them when this was happening.
that is about the only bad thing i have heard about these speakers so far.
and from you review i kind of doubt it will be a problem for me

~Magick_Man~

rollin_clean
03-06-2006, 08:57 AM
which would work better in the doors with out a box just in the factory spots?

UndercoverPunk
03-06-2006, 09:43 AM
hmm so the back of these is pretty small, i just might be able to fit them after all.
i guess i will be orderign a pair today.

UndercoverPunk, in your review you mentioned about some tensil slap. how much power did you have giong to them when this was happening.
that is about the only bad thing i have heard about these speakers so far.
and from you review i kind of doubt it will be a problem for me

~Magick_Man~

I set the gains on a bridged set of channels for ~120 watts RMS per 6.5. I have over 300 available on each bridged channel. If whatever amp your using gets them louder than what mine are. I'll be shocked.

The tinsel slap is really a minor problem as it can be practicly eliminated with different crossover settings. ****, I havn't even tried physicaly altering the mids to try and get rid of that slap. I havn't pulled the mids since I put them in. I don't wanna take them out. IDK, I'm thinking about calling Chad today to talk to him about them.
I need to fininsh the review to include more details about how they sound, but I'm having problems not being redundant. You can only say great and awesome so many times before you sound like a retard.

~Magick_Man~
03-06-2006, 11:47 AM
another question is are these much better than cdt hd mids?
that is what i have now and am guite happy with them.
but if these are better than i will kick the cdt's to the curb. :up2somet:

~Magick_Man~

Slammed
03-06-2006, 12:28 PM
dammit guys...dont make me buy these Ascendant mids LOL

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 01:06 PM
do it slammed...doo it !

pwnt by pat
03-06-2006, 01:13 PM
nothing

Maybe I'm wrong but when I called them Dan (I think that's who I talked to) was extremely helpful and answered a TON of questions of mine. IIRC, he told me that the Poly mids use, well, a poly cone. The Arco mids are completely different drivers and use a carbon fiber cone. May be worth a call back...

The reason I remember this is because he said the ARCO mids have a distinct breakup higher than 3k while the polys can play cleanly through 5k. It would also explain the 2.5k crossover - or that the tweets are so supremely amazing that they thought the mid should get fair play 'cause the tweet can go into the 1ks.

~Magick_Man~
03-06-2006, 01:42 PM
well i went ahead and ordered a pair of the AA poly mids, i am going to cry if i cant fit them in my door. :crying:
it shouldnt be a problem but with my luck it will be :furious:

~Magick_Man~

iceteebone
03-06-2006, 01:48 PM
i'm gonna have to order the mids as well. gonna put them in sealed door pods, but i only have 60 watts rms to give them

~Magick_Man~
03-06-2006, 01:51 PM
they seem very hard to beat for the 85.xx i spent on them incl. shipping.
and i also only have 60ish watts for the time being.
i might just run them off my infinity kappa xovers so i can bridge my amp and give them 120ish.
but we'll see how they perform with the 60 first

~Magick_Man~

ngsm13
03-06-2006, 03:13 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but when I called them Dan (I think that's who I talked to) was extremely helpful and answered a TON of questions of mine. IIRC, he told me that the Poly mids use, well, a poly cone. The Arco mids are completely different drivers and use a carbon fiber cone. May be worth a call back...

The reason I remember this is because he said the ARCO mids have a distinct breakup higher than 3k while the polys can play cleanly through 5k. It would also explain the 2.5k crossover - or that the tweets are so supremely amazing that they thought the mid should get fair play 'cause the tweet can go into the 1ks.

No, that would be Chad (owner, technical guy)... or Dale (Phone guy). I'm almost 100% positive it was Chad.

nG

pwnt by pat
03-06-2006, 03:28 PM
Yeah, I'm bad at remembering names... Anyway I know he was EXTREMELY helpful.

UndercoverPunk
03-06-2006, 07:12 PM
i'm gonna have to order the mids as well. gonna put them in sealed door pods, but i only have 60 watts rms to give them

Find a way to access a o-scope and set your gains with that. :naughty:

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 08:12 PM
no email reply :(

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 08:13 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but when I called them Dan (I think that's who I talked to) was extremely helpful and answered a TON of questions of mine. IIRC, he told me that the Poly mids use, well, a poly cone. The Arco mids are completely different drivers and use a carbon fiber cone. May be worth a call back...

The reason I remember this is because he said the ARCO mids have a distinct breakup higher than 3k while the polys can play cleanly through 5k. It would also explain the 2.5k crossover - or that the tweets are so supremely amazing that they thought the mid should get fair play 'cause the tweet can go into the 1ks.
I based my fact on the site but i'll go with your answer.
Sounds more logical

ngsm13
03-06-2006, 08:38 PM
no email reply :(

CALL them ;)...

One person swamped with emails... take A LONG time.

nG

pwnt by pat
03-06-2006, 08:39 PM
The carbon fiber midrange is based upon our new neodymium motor design. Offering a whopping 11.5 mm of one-waylinear excursion, you are provided with a very high level of output where the midrange typically crosses over to your subwoofer.

The poly mid... It doesn't say what it's made out of but one would assume polymer by the name.

iceteebone
03-06-2006, 09:17 PM
Find a way to access a o-scope and set your gains with that. :naughty:


i think my uncle has one. i have no idea how the hell to use it though :(

Pyro_By_Nature
03-06-2006, 09:20 PM
CALL them ;)...

One person swamped with emails... take A LONG time.

nG


x2, I sent them an email with a question about payment, and I think it was about 4-5 months later I got a reply.Kinda forgot about it lol.

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 11:41 PM
CALL them ;)...

One person swamped with emails... take A LONG time.

nG
No time before work and after i get home they are closed (time zone diff)

bimma85
03-06-2006, 11:43 PM
No time before work and after i get home they are closed (time zone diff)
make a thread in their forum or pm him

Eldorado
03-06-2006, 11:49 PM
whats his s/n ?

bimma85
03-06-2006, 11:50 PM
whats his s/n ?
i think its his name
chad kuypers or something like that :crap:

just post a thread or look for his sn
http://forum.carstereos.org/f50-official-ascendant-audio-forum.html

slick rick
03-07-2006, 01:23 AM
No, that would be Chad (owner, technical guy)... or Dale (Phone guy). I'm almost 100% positive it was Chad.

nG

Dale=Chad's dad. ;)

ngsm13
03-07-2006, 02:06 AM
Dale=Chad's dad. ;)

Indeed. I am quite familiar with this. ;)

nG

pwnt by pat
03-07-2006, 07:17 AM
Are you somebodys daddy?

Pl8er
03-08-2006, 07:20 AM
I can follow the link from here to AA for the poly mids, but is there a link on the website for all of the mids they sell? Or do they only sell one type right now?

chubby
03-08-2006, 08:13 AM
they only sell one type right now.

pwnt by pat
03-08-2006, 08:18 AM
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/arco_page.html

~Magick_Man~
03-09-2006, 07:12 PM
well i just got the AA mids and they are rather impressive
i will get some pictures late tonight after work.

~Magick_Man~

pwnt by pat
03-09-2006, 08:06 PM
Did you get the polys or the arcos?

Eldorado
03-09-2006, 08:27 PM
Pics or i'll neg you
And maybe a lil pr0n if we are good ;)

flakko
03-09-2006, 08:29 PM
^^^ did they respond yet eldo?

need to know how much shipping is gonna cost

Eldorado
03-09-2006, 08:35 PM
no :(
I seriously dont have time to call them when they are open.

flakko
03-09-2006, 08:36 PM
when are they open? 9-5 central? ill call tomorrow

Eldorado
03-09-2006, 08:38 PM
12-6 central
Could you please ?

flakko
03-09-2006, 08:46 PM
12-6 central
Could you please ?

yea ive been meaning to call all week anyways.... lookin either at these or the ology sets, but these arcos are a steal for 200

Eldorado
03-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Considering what you can buy for $200, these will pwn just about anything in that price range

~Magick_Man~
03-09-2006, 09:49 PM
well shipping on the 2 poly mids was 15.05 i believe so i would expect about that for the comp set.

and as far as pics i probably wont be getting off work till 2-3am Central time
i can get some still shots then.
and tomorrow try to get some pron, and maybe a bit from my hd's for comparrison

~Magick_Man~

Eldorado
03-09-2006, 09:52 PM
So Cal is alot further than Bedford TX :crap:
I'll be up so you better have some pictles for me

flakko
03-10-2006, 03:07 AM
so erm im gessing 20-25 for shipping? ill call right when i wake up! need to start on my door panels grrrrr

~Magick_Man~
03-10-2006, 04:40 AM
well i am just now getting off work so i should have pictures in about 30 minutes
if not then they will wait till later today.

~Magick_Man~

~Magick_Man~
03-10-2006, 05:34 AM
well it just isnt going to happen tonight,
the camera is in the parents room and i am not going in there after it.
i will be trying to install them later today sometime before noon.

and i was hearing a kind of bad noise from my left door and i am afraid the small rip in the spider has grown :(
but it could be alot of things and hopefully it isnt the mid :(

~Magick_Man~

ngsm13
03-10-2006, 06:11 AM
To tide you n00bx off:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9135/dsc000094em.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000094em.jpg)

Compared to IDCX62 mid...
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9888/dsc000046cw.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000046cw.jpg)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7960/dsc000069tt.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000069tt.jpg)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6980/dsc000114hl.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000114hl.jpg)
New MT Coaxial style mount...
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3753/dsc000123lr.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc000123lr.jpg)

;)

nG

Eldorado
03-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Neo mag ?
Im kinda glad they arent massive like my DD's
The huge magnet makes them akward to handle. They do have a bumped back plate and a pole piece vent though :cool:

ngsm13
03-10-2006, 02:33 PM
Of course they have a neo mag ;)... it's even smaller than the extremii's neo mag...

nG

Randy Savage
03-10-2006, 02:50 PM
Noah how do they stack up against the CX62's?

ngsm13
03-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Noah how do they stack up against the CX62's?

Haven't installed the CX62's yet, but will tell when I do ;)...

nG

Randy Savage
03-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Haven't installed the CX62's yet, but will tell when I do ;)...

nG


feg

ngsm13
03-10-2006, 03:19 PM
feg

Lol, they're not even mine. They're EhRon's (B&W_EE's). So we shall see.

nG

~Magick_Man~
03-11-2006, 12:13 AM
well i didnt get crap done today, they arent going to fit in my door without modification so i am going the kick panel route.
but i am afraid there is something wrong with one of them.
it is making a kind of mechanical noise that isnt tensil slap so i have no clue what it is.
the other one had a bit of tensil slap but a little adjustment fixed that and it doesnt make any noise.
so i am not sure what to do now
and i wont get much done tomorrow because of a concert i am going to.
i will get some pictures tomorrow or you can all neg me.

~Magick_Man~

flakko
03-11-2006, 12:15 AM
couldnt get thru... left a message, no return.

Eldorado
03-11-2006, 12:32 AM
:crap:

~Magick_Man~
03-11-2006, 10:36 PM
i am going to make another thread with pictures since i am working on some kicks too.
if anybody even still cares

~Magick_Man~

Eldorado
03-12-2006, 01:57 AM
uhh...ya
pics or ban

~Magick_Man~
03-12-2006, 11:54 AM
they are in the other thread
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147599

~Magick_Man~

Pl8er
03-12-2006, 08:27 PM
Is it actually possible to get ahold of a Ascendant person on the phone? I want to order the mids and I told them to send me an email with an invoice. No luck. Anyone know any other way to order from them?

Thanks!

~Magick_Man~
03-12-2006, 08:30 PM
i called them and got through on the first time
around 1:30 pm central time

~Magick_Man~

Pl8er
03-12-2006, 08:31 PM
Guess I'll try again tomorrow. I have been hearing good things about these mids and want them for my rear fill.

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 12:13 AM
well just to let people know, the arco pre order is over.
so anybody that was thinking about getting them ***** for you.

~Magick_Man~

pwnt by pat
03-13-2006, 12:33 AM
Mother ****er. I was going to order tomorrow.

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 12:35 AM
you might still try ordering them but i doubt it will happen.

~Magick_Man~

flakko
03-13-2006, 01:32 AM
im just gonna get the mids and mate them with my rainbow tweeter... see how they sound.

ngsm13
03-13-2006, 01:34 AM
im just gonna get the mids and mate them with my rainbow tweeter... see how they sound.

Oh god. If only you could hear the XT25... then you'd instantly take that back.

I've stated before. The tweeter impressed me more than the mid.

nG

flakko
03-13-2006, 01:40 AM
Oh god. If only you could hear the XT25... then you'd instantly take that back.

I've stated before. The tweeter impressed me more than the mid.

nG

oh wait so for 119.00 i can get a tweet, xover and a mid?

will it work well in-car? or will there be aiming issues? i might just do the arbiter

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 01:41 AM
Then he should just buy them from PE
Ive seen some posts saying that AA is having a hard time with them

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 01:43 AM
ng do you know how big the home flange tweets are? (depth and dia. of faceplate)
i might just replace the dayton rs28a-4 with those.

~Magick_Man~

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 01:44 AM
Then he should just buy them from PE
Ive seen some posts saying that AA is having a hard time with them

these are the neo tweets that pe doesnt have

~Magick_Man~

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 01:45 AM
True, but the PE ones have a lower FS and can play lower.
Which is better IMO

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 01:48 AM
well that is a good point

~Magick_Man~

flakko
03-13-2006, 01:48 AM
dont matter tho... if the arbs come with a prebuilt passive then i mine as well have the AA's.... plus:

http://206.13.113.199/ncdiyaudio/mark/Testing/Tweeter1/Graphs/XT25off_axis.gif

pretty nice even off axis, or i can get a xover designed by someone.

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 01:52 AM
Anyone know what tweeter the Arbiter's use ?
it doesnt look like a neo
Xt25 ring radiator...but does it have the big mag ?

flakko
03-13-2006, 01:53 AM
the XT-25

ngsm13
03-13-2006, 01:54 AM
True, but the PE ones have a lower FS and can play lower.
Which is better IMO

No sir.

These are CUSTOM XT25's ;)... the diapgrahms are custom imported from Germany as well. The few times I've talked with Chad he emphasized how they're better than the stock XT25's. They'll play flat to 800hz... though why would anyone need them that low... you can easily find a mid to mate with at a little higher frequency.

Flakko, I bought 4 sets of Tweeter/Mid for $80/set + shipping.

MagickMan...
Pic for reference...I'll try to get measurements soon.
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9827/resize11tu.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=resize11tu.jpg)

nG

flakko
03-13-2006, 01:54 AM
for 80 bucks:

This option includes just the XT25 tweeter and the Arbiter poly midrange drivers.

flakko
03-13-2006, 01:55 AM
No sir.

These are CUSTOM XT25's ;)... the diapgrahms are custom imported from Germany as well. The few times I've talked with Chad he emphasized how they're better than the stock XT25's. They'll play flat to 800hz... though why would anyone need them that low... you can easily find a mid to mate with at a little higher frequency.

Flakko, I bought 4 sets of Tweeter/Mid for $80/set + shipping.

MagickMan...
Pic for reference...I'll try to get measurements soon.
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9827/resize11tu.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=resize11tu.jpg)

nG

wat about the xoverness? did you do it actively?

how do the tweets sound in-car? or have you tried?

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 01:59 AM
Noah,does the tweeter that comes in the arbiter set have the large mag like the stock XT25 ?
I have a limited space for my tweets since i wanna keep my install all stealth and use the stock tweeter mounting location

ngsm13
03-13-2006, 02:03 AM
I dropped the HomeAudio flanged tweeters in my truck to take a listen. I immediately decided that they were not coming back out. They sound BLISSFUL... simply put. The detail is amazing, they're solid, they are very articulate, great sound, not harsh.

I'll try to get more detailed pics of the tweeter tomorrow. EhRon has the digicam ;)...

Also, yes... my setup in my truck is fully active. I have the XXX6.5's up to 1.2kHz @24dB/oct and the Tweeters @1.6kHz @24dB/oct

nG

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 02:06 AM
I need more pictles
Im going active as well ;)

flakko
03-13-2006, 02:07 AM
I dropped the HomeAudio flanged tweeters in my truck to take a listen. I immediately decided that they were not coming back out. They sound BLISSFUL... simply put. The detail is amazing, they're solid, they are very articulate, great sound, not harsh.

I'll try to get more detailed pics of the tweeter tomorrow. EhRon has the digicam ;)...

Also, yes... my setup in my truck is fully active. I have the XXX6.5's up to 1.2kHz @24dB/oct and the Tweeters @1.6kHz @24dB/oct

nG

wowness... ignore my last pm hehe this answered it ;)

thats my choice... 2 arbiter sets in my car!!

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 02:08 AM
no !
Thats my choice you copier !

flakko
03-13-2006, 02:10 AM
hehe its okay, im sure we dont have the same friends, also im running ported ;)

p.s. want me to find out how much shipping is?

ngsm13
03-13-2006, 02:11 AM
hehe its okay, im sure we dont have the same friends, also im running ported ;)

p.s. want me to find out how much shipping is?

Jason beat you to it.

He's already got them installed, and will be porting soon ;).

nG

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 02:11 AM
so that is the home flange, judging by that picture they wouldnt need a smaller one for in car.
that is pretty small already
i just might try to offload these daytons and switch to those.
i wonder how much just a set of tweeters would be?
maybe 45 each since the arbiter TM sets are 80 and the mid is 35
i think i will call them tomorrow and see what is up.

~Magick_Man~

ngsm13
03-13-2006, 02:13 AM
so that is the home flange, judging by that picture they wouldnt need a smaller one for in car.
that is pretty small already
i just might try to offload these daytons and switch to those.
i wonder how much just a set of tweeters would be?
maybe 45 each since the arbiter TM sets are 80 and the mid is 35
i think i will call them tomorrow and see what is up.

~Magick_Man~

I know the magic number, but not sure if I'm allowed to say.

nG

flakko
03-13-2006, 02:13 AM
Jason beat you to it.

He's already got them installed, and will be porting soon ;).

nG

hahaha dangit im running a tube amp

gotta be different one way or another lol

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 02:17 AM
install/amps dont matter
its still the same speaker !

flakko
03-13-2006, 02:18 AM
haha i know... but hey we were both gonna get the Arcos no? ;)

Eldorado
03-13-2006, 02:20 AM
Yep, and now it looks like we are both going to get the arbiters ...lol

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 02:20 AM
haha i know... but hey we were both gonna get the Arcos no? ;)

arco = 300 cf mid, crossover, car tweeter

arbiter = 160 poly mid, no crossover, home tweeter

~Magick_Man~

flakko
03-13-2006, 02:22 AM
arco = 300 cf mid, crossover, car tweeter

arbiter = 160 poly mid, no crossover, home tweeter

~Magick_Man~

if going active, the ideal would be the arbiter... although the off-axis graph aint that bad on the home tweeter

~Magick_Man~
03-13-2006, 02:24 AM
true, and i am going active so i am really starting to want to get those tweeters to go with these mids.

~Magick_Man~

Pl8er
03-13-2006, 04:36 PM
Well I just got off the phone with Ascendant and the midwoofers I wanted 6.5 Poly's are sold out and he doesn't know when they are going to get any back in.

So I'm kinda stuck. I want to spend about a hundred bucks on some 6.5 rear fill mids. Any suggestions?