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thadman
02-14-2006, 03:50 PM
Is it at all possible to play mp3s on an Eclipse cd8053 with accessories? I need an active crossover setup and the cd8053 seems to be amazing in that area and I have found a couple brand new ones right at or below my price range! :D ...but I'd really like to be able to have the opportunity to play mp3s or my iPod (not an issue if I cant use the iPod)

The cd8053 has 16v preouts as an option ($100 accessory to be able to use the 16v preouts), but can amps handle that much voltage?

JLCivic
02-14-2006, 04:03 PM
The BLA(balanced line adaptor) is used so all amps can make use of that voltage.

Yes, there is an eclipse piece(eclipse commander advance) that allows the 8053 to play mp3s. However, that piece is pretty rare so good luck finding one. If you think that is the deck for you(it is a great deck, I owned one for a while), then buy it. If you really think you need mp3s, just run an iPOD or iPOD type unit through the aux in.

kpr10is
02-14-2006, 04:16 PM
Just so happens Ive got an Eclipse Commander for sale, brand new, for the 8053. Not only will it give you mp3, but voice controls, and you can add gps to it if you want. $250 and its yours :)

thadman
02-14-2006, 04:20 PM
will there be a noticeable difference between 8v and 16v to my amps?

djman37
02-14-2006, 04:21 PM
Just so happens Ive got an Eclipse Commander for sale, brand new, for the 8053. Not only will it give you mp3, but voice controls, and you can add gps to it if you want. $250 and its yours :)

i was gonna mention your ad.:D

the 8053 DOES have an AUX in already though. I use it to plug a Rio in sometimes.

thadman
02-14-2006, 04:22 PM
I can get an 8053 for close to that price, I might as well pick up a DRZ9255 or cd8455 if I was to spend that much money.

How superior is the DRZ9255 to the 8053? does the 8455 have as nice of processing as the 8053 in terms of active xovers/equalizers/etc.

Would I be able to hear a difference between 16v and 8v preouts? on CDs (not mp3s)

alphakenny1
02-14-2006, 04:58 PM
How superior is the DRZ9255 to the 8053? does the 8455 have as nice of processing as the 8053 in terms of active xovers/equalizers/etc.


dunno how "superior" it is but the eclipse 8053 and 8455 beats the clarion when it comes to processing. unless you go with a 3way frontstage, i'd get the eclipse. more processing. both eclipses have a 10band PEQ compared to 5 band peq with the clarion. i believe the highest slope on the clarion is 18db/oct compared to the eclipses 24db/oct. also i believe int eh 8053 and 8455 pretty much have the same processing. the 8455 has a lil bit more to play with because they have the e-iserv thing and the microphone where it can record the response curve. maybe you can wait a bit til the new eclipses come out and the prices on the 8455 might drop.

thadman
02-14-2006, 05:23 PM
how much do you think they will drop? Will there be any new ones left?

I can get a brand new 8053 for about $275

squeak9798
02-14-2006, 05:24 PM
I can get an 8053 for close to that price, I might as well pick up a DRZ9255 or cd8455 if I was to spend that much money.

How superior is the DRZ9255 to the 8053? does the 8455 have as nice of processing as the 8053 in terms of active xovers/equalizers/etc.

Would I be able to hear a difference between 16v and 8v preouts? on CDs (not mp3s)

There's no audible difference between preout voltages.

alphakenny1
02-14-2006, 05:26 PM
how much do you think they will drop? Will there be any new ones left?

I can get a brand new 8053 for about $275

if mp3's aren't important to you, i'd just get that 8053. the 8053 many have argued that its the best HU eclipse ever made.

thadman
02-14-2006, 08:14 PM
Does the 8053 have that option where u play tones in your car to a mic and upload the information from the card to the internet and it does custom equalizing for you and shows you the response curve?

alphakenny1
02-14-2006, 08:26 PM
i think only the 8455 does that. maybe the 8454. not quite sure though.

thadman
02-14-2006, 08:34 PM
are there any units that just do custom equalization and not the response curve

that mode seems like itd be an amazing help

mikegett
02-14-2006, 09:44 PM
Between the eclipse models, only the 8455 or 06 models give you custom curves. The 8454 from 05 allows eiserve to manipulate the curve only.

djman37
02-14-2006, 10:04 PM
Does the 8053 have that option where u play tones in your car to a mic and upload the information from the card to the internet and it does custom equalizing for you and shows you the response curve?

no :crap:
jntar's RTA's do though:D

thadman
02-14-2006, 10:59 PM
jntars RTAs?

djman37
02-15-2006, 12:01 AM
jntars RTAs?
i have access to two RTA's so I don't need to do all the uploading stuff.:naughty:
I'm about to go active with my 8053 and jump into pro mode.:cool:

kpr10is
02-15-2006, 12:02 AM
There's no audible difference between preout voltages.
Please go into detail. There might not be an audible difference when running both unbalanced, but literally every single person I talk to who has ran both notices a difference between the 16v balanced and 8v unbalanced, including FoxPro5 on here, to whom I just sold my balanced line adapter for his 8053.

adam71
02-16-2006, 05:46 PM
Please go into detail. There might not be an audible difference when running both unbalanced, but literally every single person I talk to who has ran both notices a difference between the 16v balanced and 8v unbalanced, including FoxPro5 on here, to whom I just sold my balanced line adapter for his 8053.

What it does is lower your overall noise floor. But it doesn't affect SQ at all. If you don't have any noise problems with 8volts then you won't need 16volts. The biggest differences you'd see would be the fact that your gains on your amps would be lower than if you used 8volts.

But how many amps can handle such a high voltage signal?? I'm not going to claim to know but I don't think there are many unless after the BLA the signal goes down in voltage.

squeak9798
02-17-2006, 10:53 AM
Please go into detail. There might not be an audible difference when running both unbalanced, but literally every single person I talk to who has ran both notices a difference between the 16v balanced and 8v unbalanced, including FoxPro5 on here, to whom I just sold my balanced line adapter for his 8053.

Two completely different things.

I was talking voltage vs voltage, not balanced vs unbalanced as you are attempting to compare.

Heck, they could have went from 8V unbalanced to 2V balanced and heard that same difference, if they (for example) had some noise in their system that running balanced eliminated.

The difference they heard could have been due to the switch to the balanced system...or simply due to psychoacoustics. But it definitely was not because of the difference in voltage level. Also note that the balanced signal would have to actually do something productive (such as reduce noise) in order to actually "sound" different. Otherwise it was pure pyschoacoustics, nothing more. It sounded better because they wanted it to sound better.

squeak9798
02-17-2006, 10:54 AM
But how many amps can handle such a high voltage signal?? I'm not going to claim to know but I don't think there are many unless after the BLA the signal goes down in voltage.

The signal out of the BLA is dropped down to 8V or 10V (can't remember off hand). It's only 16V into the BLA from the 8053

kpr10is
02-17-2006, 11:37 AM
I gotcha.

adam71
02-17-2006, 04:02 PM
The signal out of the BLA is dropped down to 8V or 10V (can't remember off hand). It's only 16V into the BLA from the 8053

Ok, so at this point then it is an unbalanced signal and is fed to the amps as that??

kpr10is
02-17-2006, 07:53 PM
Yes, the signal out of the BLA is unbalanced. The point of the BLA is to run balanced the entire length of your vehicle for noise purposes, placing the BLA as close to the amps as possible, and only running unbalanced a very short length for amps that do not accept balanced.

squeak9798
02-17-2006, 07:57 PM
Ok, so at this point then it is an unbalanced signal and is fed to the amps as that??

Yup.

As kpr10is correctly identified, the point of the BLA is to allow you to run a balanced signal through the vehicle (and hence through the major noise-inducing area of the vehicle), only switching to back unbalanced right before input into the amplifier where the possibility of noise being induced is very low.

JLCivic
02-17-2006, 08:48 PM
What it does is lower your overall noise floor. But it doesn't affect SQ at all. If you don't have any noise problems with 8volts then you won't need 16volts. The biggest differences you'd see would be the fact that your gains on your amps would be lower than if you used 8volts.

But how many amps can handle such a high voltage signal?? I'm not going to claim to know but I don't think there are many unless after the BLA the signal goes down in voltage.

The "A" in BLA stands for adapter. All amps could then take advantage of the balanced signal.