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dru
02-14-2006, 01:16 AM
I have to go home this weekend for surgery on my hand (saved a dog from a 16 wheeler:naughty: ;) ) and thought that I'd build my box while I was at home.

Besides the basics such as using MDF, woodglue, predrilling, etc. Are there any other box buildling basics/secrets you guys have? I built a box once and it turned out fine, ended up not using screws. Just wanted to know if there was anything else I should look out for?

--dru

tRiGgEr
02-14-2006, 01:47 AM
Make sure to use clamps and measure twice cut once. That's about it.

SAG3
02-14-2006, 01:51 AM
and seal the inside

crazy4ozs
02-14-2006, 02:14 AM
when installing the sub...

make sure u put (-) to (-) and (+) to (+)...that could be bad if u didnt ;)

Pop da Hatch
02-14-2006, 10:44 AM
use chaulk - everyone loves chaulk - you will be ranted and raved over!

danteBirosel
02-14-2006, 11:14 AM
Make sure to use clamps and measure twice cut once. That's about it.


x2, 2 90 degree corner clamps and 2 36 in bar clamps. Clamps is highly highly recommended!!!

ramos
02-14-2006, 11:15 AM
use chaulk - everyone loves chaulk - you will be ranted and raved over!


Caulk not chaulk :)

Pop da Hatch
02-14-2006, 11:40 AM
Caulk not chaulk :)


god ****et I tried, picky lil man!

93 saturn sl2
02-14-2006, 11:45 AM
I would but then i'd have to kill you..

406er
02-14-2006, 01:33 PM
take your time. mesure like 10 times cut once. get lots of clamps. and some corner clamps used for picture frame making are the best. dont go crazy with the glue, if using screws predrill everything.

angryeric116
02-14-2006, 10:21 PM
any specific caulks work better than others?

concept11253
02-14-2006, 11:29 PM
Take your time. Make sure you predrill if you want to prevent the MDF from splitting.

Moe Lester
02-15-2006, 12:02 AM
any specific caulks work better than others?

silicone sealant works better and dries faster.

pjm2211
02-15-2006, 12:05 AM
use an air nailer with gorilla glue (just prior to nailing and use it anywhere the mdf meets) and you won't have to worry about pre drilling, or splitting the mdf. :)

~Magick_Man~
02-15-2006, 12:50 AM
use an air nailer with gorilla glue (just prior to nailing and use it anywhere the mdf meets) and you won't have to worry about pre drilling, or splitting the mdf. :)

Wood Glue pwns gorilla glue
~Magick_Man~

iceteebone
02-15-2006, 12:53 AM
brad nailer ftw

snb778
02-15-2006, 02:07 AM
ok, I have to ask ....WTF DOES PWN mean!!!!?? Pleaaase

nphocus
02-15-2006, 02:26 AM
Wood Glue pwns gorilla glue
~Magick_Man~
Umm, Wood glue is Aight. But gorilla glue is the shiz. Much stronger. Expands to fill in any gaps. Only downside is damping the mdf before applying the glue. Gorilla glue is second only to epoxy in terms of strength.

bimma85
02-15-2006, 02:29 AM
Umm, Wood glue is Aight. But gorilla glue is the shiz. Much stronger. Expands to fill in any gaps. Only downside is damping the mdf before applying the glue. Gorilla glue is second only to epoxy in terms of strength.
titebond 3 ftw :)

Cris
02-15-2006, 02:34 AM
ok, I have to ask ....WTF DOES PWN mean!!!!?? Pleaaase

it's a derivitive of "owned". It simply means one is superior to the other. Type R pwns clarion subs, for example.

dru
02-15-2006, 04:05 AM
i'll stick to good ol liquid nails thx everyone

Pyro_By_Nature
02-15-2006, 04:14 AM
Umm, Wood glue is Aight. But gorilla glue is the shiz. Much stronger. Expands to fill in any gaps. Only downside is damping the mdf before applying the glue. Gorilla glue is second only to epoxy in terms of strength.


For MDF, wood glue > gorilla glue.If you glue with gorilla glue, the joint can and will break if you try.With wood glue, the panels are basically becoming one piece.The wood will break before the joint itself breaks.

ramos
02-15-2006, 08:23 AM
Elmers pro bond > all . Got a bottle the other day to try it out. This chit is strong. Reminds me of gorrilla glue as it's urethane based. But doesn't have the expansion of gorilla glue. Holds rather well. :)

ramos
02-15-2006, 08:24 AM
silicone sealant works better and dries faster.

yep 100% pure silicon sealant is the best. Stinks to all holy he!!. But works great :)

Rattlebrain
02-15-2006, 08:30 AM
12 pack of the beer of your choice.

ramos
02-15-2006, 08:47 AM
brad nailer ftw


In some situations screws do a better job. ( I'm lazy and use a brad nailer most of the time :D ) I.E. when your working on a port or something that is located in the middle of the enclosure. And you can't get good clamping pressure on it. The holding power of screws > brads in this situation :)

ramos
02-15-2006, 08:47 AM
12 pack of the beer of your choice.

only a 12 pack ??? Better be a small sealed enclosure. :D :)

djman37
02-15-2006, 08:59 AM
Umm, Wood glue is Aight. But gorilla glue is the shiz. Much stronger. Expands to fill in any gaps. Only downside is damping the mdf before applying the glue. Gorilla glue is second only to epoxy in terms of strength.

I agree w/mountaineer main. GG is NOT the best choice for box building. It's main function is furniture repair and REAL WOOD glue, not so much MDF. Yes, I've tried to use it before, and I've seen it expand on a nice clean joint and F it up.
Use what you want, but for box building like you asked...WOOD GLUE, Elmers or Titebond I or II FTW > Liquid Nails or Gorilla Glue.

dru
02-15-2006, 03:29 PM
12 pack of the beer of your choice.
Dad has a 6 pack of Molson in the fridge for when I get home.

PV Audio
02-15-2006, 03:51 PM
Umm, Wood glue is Aight. But gorilla glue is the shiz. Much stronger. Expands to fill in any gaps. Only downside is damping the mdf before applying the glue. Gorilla glue is second only to epoxy in terms of strength.
You really have no idea as to what you're talking about, do you?

UndercoverPunk
02-15-2006, 03:53 PM
Semen is an excellent wood glue. That's my secret.

Rattlebrain
02-15-2006, 06:14 PM
only a 12 pack ??? Better be a small sealed enclosure. :D :)
Well I wanted to keep the cuts some what straight. :crazy: :naughty:

ramos
02-15-2006, 06:46 PM
Semen is an excellent wood glue. That's my secret.


kind of sick twisted side note. But some of the best upholstry glues do have semen in them :)

saywhat?
02-15-2006, 07:04 PM
elephant semen that is!

radavis2004
02-15-2006, 07:06 PM
can we make the gorilla glue vs. all other wood glue argument a sticky in this forum? This conversation happens at least once a week

Chevyaudio
02-15-2006, 07:09 PM
really dont need one..Wood glue>gorilla glue. The only people that use gorilla glue are those who havent tried a good wood glue yet. Gorilla glue makes a mechanical bond (just sticks the two pieces together) wood glue makes a chemical bond and fuses the wood together. Plus gorilla glue expands and fvcks up your straight joints

radavis2004
02-15-2006, 07:43 PM
really dont need one..Wood glue>gorilla glue. The only people that use gorilla glue are those who havent tried a good wood glue yet. Gorilla glue makes a mechanical bond (just sticks the two pieces together) wood glue makes a chemical bond and fuses the wood together. Plus gorilla glue expands and fvcks up your straight joints
x2, I just wish would have listened earlier before i wasted my time using gorilla glue on my first box

PV Audio
02-15-2006, 07:52 PM
can we make the gorilla glue vs. all other wood glue argument a sticky in this forum? This conversation happens at least once a week
There is no need for it, wood glue is superior. It's chemistry, nothing more. Gorilla glue is strong, but not as strong as wood glue. It literally fuses the panels together using a chemical reaction versus gorilla glue which just holds the wood together. No comparison, which is why you don't see any carpenters using gorilla glue on their large wood construction pieces.

PV Audio
02-15-2006, 07:52 PM
PWNT by not reading chevyaudio's post :)

Safe-N-Sound215
04-01-2006, 07:56 PM
liquid nails works great









:patrioti:

Rattlebrain
04-01-2006, 08:05 PM
liquid nails works great









:patrioti:
Not on one of my boxes it doesn't...sorry

azbass
04-01-2006, 08:11 PM
i dont use mdf wood.... its my secret..

azbass
04-01-2006, 08:11 PM
Semen is an excellent wood glue. That's my secret.

bwahahahah

Rattlebrain
04-01-2006, 08:13 PM
i dont use mdf wood.... its my secret..
Card board??

Safe-N-Sound215
04-02-2006, 09:41 AM
Not on one of my boxes it doesn't...sorry



just giving my opinion:rolleyes::waycrazy: liquid nails as glue and silicone to line the insides and i aint had a problem yet

bjfish11
04-02-2006, 09:43 AM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150453

saywhat?
04-02-2006, 10:25 AM
Umm, Wood glue is Aight. But gorilla glue is the shiz. Much stronger. Expands to fill in any gaps. Only downside is damping the mdf before applying the glue. Gorilla glue is second only to epoxy in terms of strength.

stfu dude. woodglue is superior to ANY OTHER GLUE when using wood. do u want me to point out the obvious reason why? ITS ****ING WOOD GLUE!!!! it TURNS into wood almost. its a CHEMICAL BOND not some physical bond.

Rattlebrain
04-02-2006, 11:09 AM
stfu dude. woodglue is superior to ANY OTHER GLUE when using wood. do u want me to point out the obvious reason why? ITS ****ING WOOD GLUE!!!! it TURNS into wood almost. its a CHEMICAL BOND not some physical bond.
BINGO. Wood glue impregnates the fibers of the wood. While "liquid nails" and Monkey Nuts glue just bonds to the surface.

"I use scotch tape to put my boxes together, never had a problem." :p: :up2somet:

But what ever. Do it how ever you like. Its your box.
Peace

Trixter
04-02-2006, 12:54 PM
for sealing the seams i mix saw dust with my trusty elmers wood glue into a thick mess and finger it into the seams. very think and dryes like a rock. (also works good for f'ed up seams and gaps...not that i make any...lol)

gotta thank 7th grade shop class making yo-yo's....

saywhat?
04-02-2006, 06:39 PM
for sealing the seams i mix saw dust with my trusty elmers wood glue into a thick mess and finger it into the seams. very think and dryes like a rock. (also works good for f'ed up seams and gaps...not that i make any...lol)

gotta thank 7th grade shop class making yo-yo's....


also, holds better because of the reaction. its called glue wash.

Expy2K
04-02-2006, 06:46 PM
All you need is a little brother or sister to fetch you sandwiches, tools, and beer...

A happy body always leads to a good box...


:)

photocrazy8
04-02-2006, 07:08 PM
yep 100% pure silicon sealant is the best. Stinks to all holy he!!. But works great :)

get the stuff that is white (smells less) and is also paintable so you can paint your port :)

NeverEnuffBass
04-02-2006, 08:05 PM
I resin all seams and corners instead of caulking.