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univ2859
02-13-2006, 10:14 AM
been away from the game for a while, and was wondering if anyone can give input as to which head unit is the cleanest and clearest sounding, im leaning towards the eclipse cd 5000 or the CD8445 which u can get cheap on ebay , any recommendations?

tRiGgEr
02-13-2006, 10:16 AM
Great choices. What is your budget and what are you using it for.

I personally own a cd8445 and love it.

univ2859
02-13-2006, 10:18 AM
gonna use it for 2 sets of components 6 1/2 prob the focal 165 k2p

tRiGgEr
02-13-2006, 10:23 AM
As long as you don't plan on running active the 8445 is a great choice. Has enough settings to please almost anyone with it's Xover's, time correction, and 7 band EQ.

One of the better units I have used.

univ2859
02-13-2006, 10:24 AM
active crossover u mean?

squeak9798
02-13-2006, 10:37 AM
What exactly do you need in a headunit....as far as features are concerned?

audiolife
02-13-2006, 10:38 AM
lol anyone see the ED headunit? lol that thing look goofey

squeak9798
02-13-2006, 10:42 AM
lol anyone see the ED headunit? lol that thing look goofey

That's not actually an "eD" headunit.

It's a Russian headunit, by the manufacturer Ural.....eD just happens to be organizing a group buy and acting as a distributor for Ural at the moment.

tRiGgEr
02-13-2006, 10:43 AM
lol anyone see the ED headunit? lol that thing look goofey

That russian HU. Goofy indeed, but settings up the wazzu!

No not active Xovers. It has a LPF/HPF that cuts off @ the set frequency. IIRC 69hz, 80hz, 100hz, 150hz, 200hz.

The main things I was interested were the 24-bit D/A converter and the 8V preamp output with a low 55 impedance rating.

VOA_NIGHTMARE
02-13-2006, 10:52 AM
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_1/car-audio-sony-mex-1hd-head-unit-3-2003.html

I have this one I bought on ebay looks like a nice deck but needs repair I have it up for sale if interested repair is a flat rate from sony for 125 shipped.

audiolife
02-13-2006, 10:53 AM
i dont care where it was made it looks goofey!! lol

univ2859
02-13-2006, 10:58 AM
so eclipse is the general consensus?

tRiGgEr
02-13-2006, 11:38 AM
so eclipse is the general consensus?

It has my vote :thumbsup:

cd6551
02-13-2006, 11:41 AM
x2 on the eclipse i love my 8445

alphakenny1
02-13-2006, 02:55 PM
x3 on eclipse. i have a 8455 and absolutely love it. again though, what features do you need?

Shyne151
02-13-2006, 02:59 PM
My Alpine 7995 :) gotta love dead heads.

DJGTSR
02-13-2006, 03:01 PM
Dare I say McIntosh?

takeabao
02-13-2006, 03:02 PM
Cleanest sounding head unit?

Sony CDX-C90 or CDX-C910

adam71
02-13-2006, 03:06 PM
No not active Xovers. It has a LPF/HPF that cuts off @ the set frequency. IIRC 69hz, 80hz, 100hz, 150hz, 200hz.

:rolleyes: Hmmmm well isn't that what an active crossover does?? Not to be a smart *** but active crossovers are a series of LPF and HPF are they not.??

squeak9798
02-13-2006, 03:08 PM
i dont care where it was made it looks goofey!! lol

Can't argue there....LOL

tRiGgEr
02-13-2006, 03:20 PM
:rolleyes: Hmmmm well isn't that what an active crossover does?? Not to be a smart *** but active crossovers are a series of LPF and HPF are they not.??

:p:

3.5Max6spd
02-13-2006, 03:20 PM
From what I gather this wont be too shabby...:yumyum:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/mannynj/mannytest2.jpg

FoxPro5
02-13-2006, 03:24 PM
From what I gather this wont be too shabby...:yumyum:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/mannynj/mannytest2.jpg

I have to admit, that thing does look pretty ******:D How was the fitment with that thing 3.5max?

alphakenny1
02-13-2006, 03:25 PM
^^ holy shiet. man you gotta scril up the ying yang. how much that tube cost if you don't mind?

adam71
02-13-2006, 03:27 PM
:p:

LOL. I didn't mean anything by it man. Just thought maybe you were thinking of something else when you stated that.:)

adam71
02-13-2006, 03:30 PM
From what I gather this wont be too shabby...:yumyum:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/mannynj/mannytest2.jpg

:eek: That thing would take some serious getting used to. From "first impression" point of view it looks like an eye sore. But anyway, to the important part.....how does the ****** sound??

DBfan187
02-13-2006, 03:31 PM
photoshop

3.5Max6spd
02-13-2006, 03:40 PM
photoshop

Good eye... I should be receiving it tomorrow but may not be in 'till the weekend, I'm awaiting an oem double din bezel and some dash kit trim pieces I ordered for it.

Dr. Dan
02-13-2006, 03:40 PM
I just love the look of that Panasonic head unit. Over the top, yes, but screw it...REAL VU meters in your dash!
Is that a 12ax7 (or similar) tube used as a pre-amp driver gain stage?
I have a hard time understanding how they keep microphonics down from the tube. It's hard enough in a vibrating guitar amp, much less a car bouncing around pot holes.

FoxPro5
02-13-2006, 03:43 PM
photoshop

You got me :up2somet: :D

3.5Max6spd
02-13-2006, 04:24 PM
I just love the look of that Panasonic head unit. Over the top, yes, but screw it...REAL VU meters in your dash!.

My thoughts exactly..SCREW IT!:D




Is that a 12ax7 (or similar) tube used as a pre-amp driver gain stage?
I have a hard time understanding how they keep microphonics down from the tube. It's hard enough in a vibrating guitar amp, much less a car bouncing around pot holes.

I know very litle about this deck other than what was discussed here...
http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=110963

And the oustanding subjective listening review it got..
http://www.elitecaraudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=121657

squeak9798
02-13-2006, 04:27 PM
Were you the one that bought it from Randy?


IIRC the tube isn't really a significant part of the signal transmission...more for looks than function.

3.5Max6spd
02-13-2006, 04:28 PM
Univ2859...either deck will serve you well...Eclipse makes some fine sounding decks...the CD5000 however had the rotaries revised for more grip, but i dont think it makes it look any better.

3.5Max6spd
02-13-2006, 04:30 PM
Were you the one that bought it from Randy?


IIRC the tube isn't really a significant part of the signal transmission...more for looks than function.

Yep..

From Jeffs tech review he suggests that the tubes indeed does affect the signal, did you read his tech clinic thread i posted above?

DBfan187
02-13-2006, 04:30 PM
does it play 'ethnic' music?

:naughty:

squeak9798
02-13-2006, 04:32 PM
Yep..

From Jeffs tech review he suggests that the tubes indeed does affect the signal, did you read his tech clinic thread i posted above?

Yes. I read it [not recently], and that's where I remembered the info from.

I seemed to recall him saying that basically yes, it was in the signal path, but not in a "significant" way, or to really introduce any kind of "tube" sound.

squeak9798
02-13-2006, 04:33 PM
does it play 'ethnic' music?

:naughty:


Ofcourse it does....it's not a Tru :crazy:

Beat_Dominator
02-13-2006, 04:35 PM
:laugh:

squeak9798
02-13-2006, 04:36 PM
Yes. I read it [not recently], and that's where I remembered the info from.

I seemed to recall him saying that basically yes, it was in the signal path, but not in a "significant" way, or to really introduce any kind of "tube" sound.


Okay....signs of my old age, the memory is fading :(


After *re*reading the article, I was a bit off. Seems like Jeff mentions that the main thing the tube is there for is for the "tube" effect.

So I was half right...I remembered it not being a *major* part of the signal chain :p:

spudracer326
02-13-2006, 04:42 PM
I have a 9855 and really like it. you can also get it fairly cheap off ikesound and ebay. I like nakamichi as well

3.5Max6spd
02-13-2006, 04:46 PM
Okay....signs of my old age, the memory is fading :(


After *re*reading the article, I was a bit off. Seems like Jeff mentions that the main thing the tube is there for is for the "tube" effect.

So I was half right...I remembered it not being a *major* part of the signal chain :p:

Well as long as it is indeed a solid , and sweet sounding deck....cause I got it to utilize its SQ feeding a processor via analog route...

Dr. Dan
02-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Wow, so it turns out that the tube in the Panasonic is NOT a gimmick! Honestly I'm kinda shocked. Gotta love those Japanese audiophiles :cool:
Used as a cathode follower at 100V, it won't be a huge aspect of the sound, but it's in the mix for sure.

This is a much, much better application than that Butler tube line driver packaged for car audio. That thing was also sold to muscians as a preamp and DISTORTION pedal! And to boot, hardly anyone used it as it didn't even do that very well. Personally I don't think that piece has any business being in playback system, and was just a marketing gimmick.

For a really fun experiment, you should try some nice Old Stock tubes in place of the stock one, which is probably Chinese made and of mediocre quality. A Telefunken or Mullard tube from the 50s or 60s can sound so rich and creamy you'll just love it. The one thing to look out for though, is to make sure the triodes (each half of the tube) is "matched", which can be determined easily on a tester.

cam2Xrunner
02-14-2006, 02:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/trdcamry2003/Second%20Album/HPIM1557.jpg


595 shipped (http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=142426)

:naughty:

3.5Max6spd
02-14-2006, 05:28 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/trdcamry2003/Second%20Album/HPIM1557.jpg


595 shipped (http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=142426)

:naughty:

**** you, my life would've been so much more simple had you posted that F/S a week ago:furious:

:p:

cam2Xrunner
02-14-2006, 05:36 PM
lol

Trade me your H701 and one of your Arc amps and it's yours.

DO you really need two 2500's anyways :eyebrow: :crazy:

3.5Max6spd
02-14-2006, 05:44 PM
lol

Trade me your H701 and one of your Arc amps and it's yours.

Dont knock me off track...I'm a man on a mission:up2somet:

And I'm running out of time before my new mortgage leaves me with the system I'll likely be stuck with for whiles to come.





DO you really need two 2500's anyways :eyebrow: :crazy:

YES!:D Haha if i could fit another i would... Darn active fronstage, darn you and the DIY crew...hehe