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iceteebone
02-04-2006, 03:46 PM
ok i'm starting to phase out on car audio and i want to start getting into home audio but i do not know the first thing about home audio. i was wondering if someone can give me some websites, or explain the basics to home audio. a buddy of mine said to get started get a dvd player, 2 towers and something else i forgot :crap:

Prowler573
02-04-2006, 03:49 PM
ok i'm starting to phase out on car audio and i want to start getting into home audio but i do not know the first thing about home audio. i was wondering if someone can give me some websites, or explain the basics to home audio. a buddy of mine said to get started get a dvd player, 2 towers and something else i forgot :crap:

Well, Ice, are you wanting very basic as in 2 channel stereo (simple left and right) or basic 2.1 channel (left and right plus a sub) or are you wanting to go whole hog into a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 channel surround setup?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 03:51 PM
Well, Ice, are you wanting very basic as in 2 channel stereo (simple left and right) or basic 2.1 channel (left and right plus a sub) or are you wanting to go whole hog into a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 channel surround setup?


see i don't know what the hell you are talking about lol. basically i don't need something big, li gues like the 2.1. i want a sub but nothing big.

JimJ
02-04-2006, 03:51 PM
How much money do you have to spend?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 03:53 PM
not looking to buy right now, i just wanna know how everything works. i want to know what components i need to have a small system

Prowler573
02-04-2006, 03:57 PM
2 channel stereo and a 2.1 channel setup will be home audio but not home theater (attempting to recreate the movie theater audio/visual experience in-home)

A very basic 2 channel setup will have the audio source (usually a stereo or home theater receiver ~ which is a tuner, a preamp source selector, sound contouring controls, and the amplifier all in one box) and two speakers to play the same left and right audio channels you have in your car.

A 2.1 channel setup is the same as the above with the addition of a dedicated LFE (Low Frequency Effects) output and driver.

From there it gets more complicated moving to a 5.1 channel surround setup. 5.1 includes Front Left, Front Right, Front Center, Rear (Surround) Left, Rear (Surround) Right, and the aforementioned LFE.

It gets more complicated from there :)

swc204
02-04-2006, 03:57 PM
http://www.partsexpress.com/projectshowcase/homeaudio.html
http://www.wadsnet.com/~dtenney/
http://zaphaudio.com/

some projects. You can see what goes into making them.

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 04:01 PM
this is basically what i have now http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3756851&cat=4479&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A133251%3A96890%3A4479 (not that exact one but a similar)

i'm looking to hook my xbox 360 and dvd player through it. my friend said i could use a dvd player as a receiver.

JimJ
02-04-2006, 04:10 PM
A DVD player is not a receiver.

Like I've said before here, a receiver is an integrated amp with an AM/FM tuner. As you get more and more insane, I mean, involved in home audio, you may want to ditch the integrated amp for seperate preamps/power amplifiers, as that gives you more system flexibility but eats your wallet faster :)

ballstothewall
02-04-2006, 09:18 PM
If you want to do a little more reading on the seperate components, which is what I'm in the process of trying to do, read http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=140398 this thread that I just made, they guys explained everything pretty darn well.

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 10:33 PM
i was actually considering using 1 of my rl-p's cause i might scale back my car audio system, so is home audio similar to car audio? is it basically low/mid/high?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 10:36 PM
so basiaclly i would need a cd player, recevier and speakers?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 10:42 PM
so when looking for home audio speakers, do i buy a pair of 6.5 mids, tweeters and a subwoofer?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 10:51 PM
so basically for a starter system i just need 2 full ranges and a subwoofer? (not 100% sure if i'll use my rl-p for home audio) so then the cd player will hook up to the receiver, and the receiver will power the speakers?

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 10:53 PM
Precisely. The HiVi B3s (square frame) and the Tang Band 871s are both great speakers to try in small sealed enclosures. The output and quality of the sound will surprise you.

Prowler573
02-04-2006, 10:54 PM
so basically for a starter system i just need 2 full ranges and a subwoofer? (1) (not 100% sure if i'll use my rl-p for home audio) so then the cd player will hook up to the receiver (2), and the receiver will power the speakers? (3)

1) Yes
2) Yes, as well as a DVD player, VCR, any other external sources you might want to use...
3) Yes
:)

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 10:55 PM
so now how do i hook this **** up? thinking i might go with a 10" rl-i since i don't want tons of bass. would building a subwoofer enclosure be the same as car audio? also what are good cd players and receivers? i'm assuming denon is a decent cd player. also what do i look for in a receiver or cd player?

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 10:59 PM
so now how do i hook this **** up? thinking i might go with a 10" rl-i since i don't want tons of bass. would building a subwoofer enclosure be the same as car audio? also what are good cd players and receivers? i'm assuming denon is a decent cd player. also what do i look for in a receiver or cd player?
Hook up is fairly simple, not hardly as complex as doing a car install. Speaker wire from receiver to speakers, RCAs or composite/fiber optic cables from the receiver to the cd player and/or DVD player. Denon is excellent. In receivers, you really cannot go wrong with the ones today. They are made for HT though, so you get more useless features as the price goes up. As for the sub...

http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=123325&page=3

Most recent post by me.

-Dave

Prowler573
02-04-2006, 11:01 PM
Hook up is fairly simple, not hardly as complex as doing a car install. Speaker wire from receiver to speakers, RCAs or composite/fiber optic cables from the receiver to the cd player and/or DVD player. Denon is excellent. In receivers, you really cannot go wrong with the ones today. They are made for HT though, so you get more useless features as the price goes up. As for the sub...

http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=123325&page=3

Most recent post by me.

-Dave

Yeah, Dave....'cause this (http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1494525&postcount=46) will be extremely helpful for someone wanting to know about all things home audio related.....:crazy:


j/p d00d :D

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:03 PM
:mad:

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:07 PM
ok i saw some goofy looking swiss cheese box. is that what i have to build? also what do i look for in terms of specs on a receiver?

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:12 PM
Swiss cheese box :laugh:

No, you don't have to build that, even though that box is braced like none other. You really don't "look for specs" in a receiver per se, since they aren't made for the best MUSICAL quality. They are made for home theater, unless you get a 2 channel.

imaspaceguy90
02-04-2006, 11:13 PM
get a 200 buck setup from walmart if u dont want anything big.

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:15 PM
Swiss cheese box :laugh:

No, you don't have to build that, even though that box is braced like none other. You really don't "look for specs" in a receiver per se, since they aren't made for the best MUSICAL quality. They are made for home theater, unless you get a 2 channel.


so when they say channel, that's how many things you can hook into them or how many speaker outputs it has? also could i just build a standard sealed box and throw it in my room?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:16 PM
get a 200 buck setup from walmart if u dont want anything big.


well that is basically like what i already have. i want more depth and i want some bass, but not as loud as my car. i mean i don't want to rattle the dishes in the kitchen

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:22 PM
would this be an all right receiver http://www.crutchfield.com/S-XKPn2QR1G5L/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=257RXD201S i looked at a pic of the back of that and i almost spit my pepsi on my screen cause i wouldn't know how the hell to hook it up

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:30 PM
so lets so i amp these speakers, it would go cd player > receiver> amp> speakers. when does a preamp come in? anyone got aim who would want to help with this ****? :uhoh:

ballstothewall
02-04-2006, 11:37 PM
ice, you've got a pm sir.

It would go like this...

source device (cd player, tv, mp3 player, dvd)---->receiver---->*sub/plateamp*----->mains

*If you have a sub setup

The receiver is the amp.

You don't need a preamp for what your running, If you run individualized pieces, you need a preamp, but if your using a receiver, you don't need one.

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:39 PM
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-W2GCdd0EaDU/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=158STR197B

I would use that instead of the JVC. It is two channel which has benefits that are two-fold: it is easier, and it is cheaper. You don't need more than two channels if you won't use them, so why pay more?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:39 PM
sinice i'm running a sub i'll need something like this http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-792&ctab=4#Tabs for the sub and the receiver will power the full range speakers?

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:40 PM
ice, you've got a pm sir.

It would go like this...

source device (cd player, tv, mp3 player, dvd)---->receiver---->*sub/plateamp*----->mains

*If you have a sub setup

The receiver is the amp.

You don't need a preamp for what your running, If you run individualized pieces, you need a preamp, but if your using a receiver, you don't need one.
You're assuming he's using high-level inputs. If you have a sub-out, you don't even need to run the speakers through the sub.

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:41 PM
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-W2GCdd0EaDU/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&I=158STR197B

I would use that instead of the JVC. It is two channel which has benefits that are two-fold: it is easier, and it is cheaper. You don't need more than two channels if you won't use them, so why pay more?


yea i was looking at that. so i can wire my cd player, dvd player, and xbox to that receiver, then that receiver would power the full ranges, then i assum there is some wire that goes from that to an amp and the sub? then i build the sub amp into the sub box?

ballstothewall
02-04-2006, 11:42 PM
That is correct, I was assuming to much.

*referring to PV's post

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:42 PM
sinice i'm running a sub i'll need something like this http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-792&ctab=4#Tabs for the sub and the receiver will power the full range speakers?
Exactly right.

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:43 PM
yea i was looking at that. so i can wire my cd player, dvd player, and xbox to that receiver, then that receiver would power the full ranges, then i assum there is some wire that goes from that to an amp and the sub? then i build the sub amp into the sub box?
Exactly what you need to do. I haven't looked at that receiver, but if it has a sub output, you will just need a subwoofer cable (be CAREFUL when buying, they are all 95% the same, but some cost upwards of $1000).

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:45 PM
Yep, ballstothewall's method is what you have to do with that receiver. Good call. :)

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:49 PM
(this is just theoritical i'm probably not using these pieces)

this http://www.crutchfield.com/S-2ALX0zn4L2E/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=53100&id=morephotos&pi=2&i=158CDPC375&display=XL#Tab will connect to this http://www.crutchfield.com/S-2ALX0zn4L2E/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&id=morephotos&pi=2&i=158STR197B&display=XL#Tab via an rca patch cable, then my dvd player and xbox will connect to that via rca patch cable, then from that i run this http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-804 which would be built into my rl-i enclosure. then my full ranges connect into the speaker outputs from the receiver?

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:50 PM
well if i find a 2 channel receiver with a sub out i need a sub cable?

swc204
02-04-2006, 11:51 PM
http://www.madisound.com/pdf/fostexcabs/103e_enclrev.pdf

I dont know your skill level as far as box contruction goes but its a pretty easy build and they sound amazing. Got my done a week or two ago and I love them. You can just run them off a reciever.

heres the driver....You dont need a crossover or anything like that.
http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=8245219.21297&pid=320

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:52 PM
Nope, it's backwards now that you aren't using a receiver with a sub out. Here's how to hook it up without it.

You run left and right speaker cable into the back of the sub amp's speaker in jacks (from receiver). You run speaker cable from the speaker out jacks on the sub amp to the mains. Voila.

swc204
02-04-2006, 11:52 PM
well if i find a 2 channel receiver with a sub out i need a sub cable?
yes like this one
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=181-642

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:53 PM
http://www.madisound.com/pdf/fostexcabs/103e_enclrev.pdf

I dont know your skill level as far as box contruction goes but its a pretty easy build and they sound amazing. Got my done a week or two ago and I love them. You can just run them off a reciever.

heres the driver....You dont need a crossover or anything like that.
http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=8245219.21297&pid=320
Essdub, with all due respect, do you think that he's going to be building a BLH if he's asking how to hook up a cd player and receiver?

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:53 PM
yes like this one
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=181-642
Good call. I have the 6 foot version of that.

iceteebone
02-04-2006, 11:56 PM
where can i find good full ranges? madisound?

PV Audio
02-04-2006, 11:57 PM
Partsexpress.com and Madisound.com carry good ones.

ballstothewall
02-04-2006, 11:58 PM
But seriously, those horns sound awsome, and get quite loud too. I can build you a pair for reasonably if you are intersted, but it would be better to start off with something simplier.

*edit* Madisound is where I got my fullranges, nice site too.

swc204
02-04-2006, 11:59 PM
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=264-813

you could use these and build something similar to what lemans built awhile ago

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 12:00 AM
FR125s?

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:00 AM
i'll just start out with a simple sealed. i assume i wire it to 8 ohms but what size sealed should i go with?

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:02 AM
what kind of enclosure do i make for the full ranges?

swc204
02-05-2006, 12:02 AM
i wouldnt use any fostex driver in a sealed box but some of the tang bands would probaly work good

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:02 AM
for the sub i'm mostly going with an rl-i, not sure if i wanna go 10 or 12

swc204
02-05-2006, 12:03 AM
http://zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker18.html

these are cheap and easy

ballstothewall
02-05-2006, 12:06 AM
http://zaphaudio.com/audio-speaker18.html

these are cheap and easy

Looks like a good thing to start off with.

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 12:07 AM
There you go, the B3S I was talking about.

swc204
02-05-2006, 12:08 AM
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=dendra295&store=&catid=4118

i have a similar one to this and i love it. very nice

you could buy boominbeats cd player if you need one

ballstothewall
02-05-2006, 12:13 AM
adio has some reasonably priced receivers for sale in his sig.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:15 AM
i'm gonna look into boominbeasts cd player. he don't live to far from me

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:34 AM
what about this amp for the sub http://www.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=139904 after talking to boominbeast i'm most likely gonna get his cd player.

swc204
02-05-2006, 12:35 AM
if its a rl-i or a similar sub its perfect

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:36 AM
gonna go with the rl-i so i might pick that up

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:43 AM
so this would be a decent full range then http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=264-817 then could i just mount them in small seaed enclosure?

swc204
02-05-2006, 12:45 AM
i would use these
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=264-813

or you could buy boominbeasts fr125's

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:51 AM
i like the cheaper tang bands better lol. so i can just build some small sealed enclosure to mount those?

swc204
02-05-2006, 12:52 AM
yes

i think lemon used them in a .44 ft^3 sealed box and he loved them

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:54 AM
i'll probably go with them then

swc204
02-05-2006, 12:57 AM
actually he used a .48 ft^3 sealed enclosure per driver

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:10 AM
what size should i go on the rl-i box? can i port it like a car box?

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:13 AM
.75 ft^3 sealed or .32 cu ft net tuned to 27 Hz with
20 sq. in. of port looks about the best on his graphs

http://www.soundsplinter.com/rli_series/rli_10_inch_DIY_car_and_home_subwoofer_driver_info rmation.html

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:20 AM
why smaller ported? is home audio different like that?

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:27 AM
i have no clue

i would email mike and ask him about an enclosure for home stereo

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:29 AM
so if i build a ported enclosure, would i just use round ports or a slot port, or does it matter?

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:29 AM
also how would i position this stuff in my room?

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:32 AM
doesnt matter

round port is just easier to use

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:34 AM
also how would i position this stuff in my room?

bedroom or a living room?

you would have to build them and test them in different spots to find the best positions

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:34 AM
bedroom most likely

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 10:40 AM
so if i build a ported enclosure, would i just use round ports or a slot port, or does it matter?
Use round and save you Vb. I built my 871s 's into <.5 cube towers. They are astounding. Damp well with poly fill, and youre good to go.

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 10:44 AM
also how would i position this stuff in my room?
Ah, the question of imaging. To me, this is the most important aspect of the audio experience. First, you need to spread them out far enough so that you have a decent sound stage. Next, you want to angle the speakers inwards (like toe-in on a car) so that they make an imaginary triangle with you at the middle. MAKE SURE THE TRIANGLE IS ISOSCELES. Otherwise, the image will be biased left or right. What I do (don't flame for nerdness, it's awesome) is I went to office max and bought two of their smallest laser pointers. Depending on the height of the speaker you may have to position it high or low, but either way place it in the middle of the speaker anywhere you can. Turn them on and aim them at your listening location. When the dots merge at where you're sitting (no bias), you have found the spot. Remember, an INCH can make a drastic difference.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:10 PM
so you are saying i port the full ranges or i seal them and add polyfill?

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 12:25 PM
Seal w/ polyfill.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 12:43 PM
ok i think i have all of this down. when porting a sub box should i just do 1 3" round port? also should it be on the same side as the sub? is it basically the same as car audio?

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 12:59 PM
It technically doesn't matter, but I would put it on the same side, yes.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:03 PM
ok i'm pretty sure how this is gonna go. now i gotta decide on a tv :crap:

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:07 PM
you need about 20 in^2 of port for the rl-i so 1 3" port isnt enough

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:09 PM
so i should go with 2 then or just build a slot port?

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:09 PM
ok i'm pretty sure how this is gonna go. now i gotta decide on a tv :crap:
how much money do you have to spend? I would try to get a hdtv for the 360..its amazing when its on a decent hdtv

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:10 PM
so i should go with 2 then or just build a slot port?

i would just do a slot

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:13 PM
how much money do you have to spend? I would try to get a hdtv for the 360..its amazing when its on a decent hdtv


not alot. would something like this do http://www.crutchfield.com/S-DmI5eo4sOIU/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=148350&id=morephotos&pi=10&i=158KV30HS4&display=XL#Tab

32" is about the largest i wanna go.

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 01:14 PM
No, I wouldn't do a slot. You will take up so much room making a low tuned port in that small of a box that it may not even be possible. A single 4" port is adequate.

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:15 PM
that would be perfect for the 360

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:16 PM
that would be perfect for the 360


a local place has that same tv for $500 and i can get an extended 5 year warranty for an extra $50. also if i never use that warranty i get my $50 back. does that sound like a good deal?

JimJ
02-05-2006, 01:16 PM
Yes.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:17 PM
No, I wouldn't do a slot. You will take up so much room making a low tuned port in that small of a box that it may not even be possible. A single 4" port is adequate.


so just a piece of 4" pvc pipe will do? what kinda would did you use for those full ranges? it seems 3/4" mdf would be too bulky for an enclosure that small

swc204
02-05-2006, 01:17 PM
sounds like a good deal

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:19 PM
i gotta start selling **** so i can afford all this :crap:

i might return my amp to sounddomain and buy a tv :)

JimJ
02-05-2006, 01:20 PM
i gotta start selling **** so i can afford all this :crap:

Welcome to my personal hell.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:21 PM
Welcome to my personal hell.


they offer 1 year no interest or payments, but that's more credit card debt :crap:

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:27 PM
another question. since the 360 has the hd hook up, would i be better off playing movies through the 360 instead of the dvd player through the standard a/v inputs?

JimJ
02-05-2006, 01:27 PM
Yes.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:30 PM
so my dvd player is kinda useless? it's a crappy emerson dvd/vcr combo. i might keep it just for the vcr

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 01:36 PM
so just a piece of 4" pvc pipe will do? what kinda would did you use for those full ranges? it seems 3/4" mdf would be too bulky for an enclosure that small
As I said, I wouldn't port the full range speakers. 3/4" mdf is ONLY what I'd use, regardless of speaker. Like that's the minimum that I'd even consider.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:40 PM
well mike said to go with 0.7 cubes ported tuned to 25 hz. so i guess i'll go with that

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:43 PM
well i put that into a port calculator and it says 71"

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 01:48 PM
That's going to be extremely hard to accomplish, which is why I said in the beginning..go sealed.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:49 PM
that's what i'll have to do. don't want this box too big

JimJ
02-05-2006, 01:52 PM
I doubt you'll be disappointed with a sealed setup. My Shiva owns in a sealed enclosure :)

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 01:54 PM
Indeed. When Lax gets my 2 12" RL-ps here, I'm running one sealed.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 01:57 PM
what size amp would be good for an rl-p? i might use 1 sealed for HT and then port the other for my car.

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 02:30 PM
I'm going to use a Behringer PA amp so that I can run both if I can't put the other in my car (1200).

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 02:56 PM
i might just stick with the rl-i and get the small plate amp. gonna send my car amp back to sounddomain so i can get my tv since i wasn't gonna install the amp till spring anyways and can always pick up another amp come spring

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 03:09 PM
so on that sub cable that was posted before, would i need a y-adapter?

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 03:17 PM
Not really, but it doesn't hurt. You can really plug it into either one, but people say that you get more output with both.

iceteebone
02-05-2006, 03:26 PM
well i can get this tv http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KV32HS420&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_hdtv_tube_27%22to32%22 for $788 including a 5 year extended warranty. the guy said he would beat any price i could find

PV Audio
02-05-2006, 05:25 PM
That looks like a nice TV.

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 12:16 AM
this a decent receiver http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,,2076_4153_209695983,00.html

the tv i'm probably gonna get comes with a cheap dvd player and i can swap out that dvd player and get that receiver for possibly and additionald $40.

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 04:16 PM
would this be a decent sub or should i stick with the rl-i? http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-414

PV Audio
02-06-2006, 04:17 PM
I love 'em :)

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 04:28 PM
would that work well with that plate amp in a sealed enclosure?

PV Audio
02-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Indeed it would.

swc204
02-06-2006, 05:00 PM
i would buy one of toxic tuans custom subs. There the exact same thing as the avalanche but with a different cone...

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 05:15 PM
i would buy one of toxic tuans custom subs. There the exact same thing as the avalanche but with a different cone...


think those would work well with about 100 watts in a sealed enclosure? i'll see if he'll split them up

swc204
02-06-2006, 05:18 PM
**** he just sold them all

swc204
02-06-2006, 05:20 PM
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=295-462

these are supposed to have very good sq

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 05:35 PM
what's the difference between an HDTV and HDTV monitor?

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 08:05 PM
what if i choose to do sourrond sound, how would that work?

PV Audio
02-06-2006, 08:06 PM
You need five speakers instead of two.

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 08:07 PM
so i just throw 5 speakers together? where do i position them? what speaker do i use?

PV Audio
02-06-2006, 08:13 PM
Whew, that's an entirely different conversation :)

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 08:15 PM
if i get a 5.1 receiver and ad surround sound, do i just get 5 full ranges then?

iceteebone
02-06-2006, 11:00 PM
i'm just curious, but why couldn't i use my ology comps and build them into an enclosure and use them as left and right speakers?