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loud1500
01-22-2006, 12:03 AM
what are the differences between the dls ur and up series? i've looked at the website and the only thing i see is power handling and sensitivity. has anyone heard both sets and can comment.

alphakenny1
01-23-2006, 04:58 AM
yea can't really tell a difference between just by looking a spec sheet unless of course you are looking at graphs such as distortion plots, frequency response graphs, etc. maybe the build quality is different between the speakers, maybe different materials were used. you can't really tell just by looking at a normal spec sheet.

Eldorado
01-23-2006, 05:19 AM
Different cone material and crossover ( 3 way)
They are the same line, one is just 3 way instead of 2. Hence the higher power handeling

squeak9798
01-23-2006, 10:05 AM
They are the same line, one is just 3 way instead of 2.

No, both lines have 2-ways aswell, they are two separate lines;

UP5 2-way system: http://www.dls.se/english/speakers/up5.htm
UR5 2-way system: http://www.dls.se/english/speakers/ur5.htm


If you look at the description, it gives you a lot of the differences;



Ultimate series UP5 is a 13 cm (5,25") 2-way system with cone of polypropylene. Powerful hybrid neodymium / ferrite magnet system. Two inch voice coil. Filterboxes with selectable tweeter level. 28 mm silk dome tweeter UP1C. Grilles are included.



Ultimate series UR5 is a 13 cm (5,25") 2-way system with mica cone body. Kraftfullt neodymium magnetsystem. Tre tums talspole. Hybrid ferrite/neodymium magnet system. Three inch voice coil. Filterboxes with selectable tweeter and mid level. 28 mm silk dome tweeter UR1. Grilles are included.


So, from that you can see a lot of differences. Most obvious being the use of two different tweeter. The UR5 has selectable mid & tweeter level in the crossover, the UP5 only has selectable tweeter level. Different cone materials on the mids, different magnet systems, looking at the pics they have different baskets aswell, and looking at the spec sheet on DLS's website the mids have totally different T/S parameters....which would lead me to believe that they are totally different midwoofers aswell. The crossovers themselves look to be totally different units, and if you look the listed slopes of the crossovers are different.

All of this pointing to the fact that they are just two totally different component sets in about every aspect. Different speakers used, different crossovers, different specifications.

But I believe the UR line is "higher" in the hierorchy than the UP series, which would indicate that they should have atleast slightly better performance.

loud1500
01-23-2006, 12:29 PM
it just kinda confused me when i see the up series power handling is greater than the ur.

have you heard either set? i just don't want a quart style tweet.

3.5Max6spd
01-23-2006, 12:50 PM
it just kinda confused me when i see the up series power handling is greater than the ur.

have you heard either set? i just don't want a quart style tweet.

Trust me, neither tweet is a 'quart style' tweet. But I will tell you that if you are coming from a high detail tweet, these hold back alot- a lil' too warm and laid back for my personal taste. And I have grown out of the whole poly/mica cone sound out of mids....just not authentic enough.

Both sets are nice sounding without a doubt and make for good listening. I'd go with the UR's myself, i like the tweeter better and tonality of the mid better. But if you are craving more realism, emotion, and airiness...i'd look elsewhere

If you want smooth, 'wet towel over the speaker' sound...you are in the right ballpark

loud1500
01-23-2006, 12:54 PM
Trust me, neither tweet is a 'quart style' tweet. But I will tell you that if you are coming from a high detail tweet, these hold back alot- a lil' too warm and laid back for my personal taste. And I have grown out of the whole poly/mica cone sound out of mids....just not authentic enough.

Both sets are nice sounding without a doubt and make for good listening. I'd go with the UR's myself, i like the tweeter better and tonality of the mid better. But if you are craving more realism, emotion, and airiness...i'd look elsewhere

If you want smooth, 'wet towel over the speaker' sound...you are in the right ballpark


i'm open to suggestions. the only thing is it has to be a 5 1/4. i was originally looking at rainbow, but i don't know if they'll be available when i have the money.

Mir
01-24-2006, 12:13 AM
I heard a pair of UR6s and UP36s....

the 2 ways UR its more than better vs the 3way Up...